ANC's postponement of Zuma’s DC was 'politically' helpful - Mtimka

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  • Political analyst, Dr Ongama Mtimka says that ANC's postponement of former president Jacob Zuma’s disciplinary hearing was 'politically' helpful. Mtimka says strategically it was a good call to avoid violence.
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  • @darlingtonmachilar6745
    @darlingtonmachilar6745 3 місяці тому +20

    They are invited by an inconsistent ANC. Why is your analyst not blaming the ANC for being confused in this Zuma issue?

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 3 місяці тому +5

      Maybe and just maybe the analyst makes more sense than u.

    • @thandekavikilahle8081
      @thandekavikilahle8081 3 місяці тому +2

      Who told you that the ANC is confused. not confused. What is it that confuses you ? ANC is sober as a judge. The ANC cannot allow mkpartÿ to disturb peace in this country. They must not go to Luthuli under the pretence of securing Zuma. remember the IFP March to Luthuli house, Noone can be happy if the mkparty goes to Luthuli house. ANC doesn't joke when people try to disturb that sacred place called Luthuli house. If their confusion as you put it will help in curbing violence let them be confused.

    • @raymondhlekwa7021
      @raymondhlekwa7021 3 місяці тому

      le analyst hai andiyiva ttuuuuu

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      He does not see any confusion klk its U who sees the confusion so make your own analysis let him say what he sees

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      ​@@raymondhlekwa7021bcoz ayithethi lento ufuna uyiva klk

  • @user-ez9en7vk2z
    @user-ez9en7vk2z 3 місяці тому +6

    Anc is scared of the monster they created.

  • @hgfku-tn6hb
    @hgfku-tn6hb 3 місяці тому +19

    ANC is extinguishing fire with petrol

  • @mantombimkhwebane335
    @mantombimkhwebane335 3 місяці тому +8

    ANC has provoked Zuma

  • @mantombimkhwebane335
    @mantombimkhwebane335 3 місяці тому +7

    Due diligence was not done 😳

  • @ZodwaDube-tf8vm
    @ZodwaDube-tf8vm 3 місяці тому +2

    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow you Msholozi kusho khona ukuthi ayatatazela amagwala asbonge kulondawo viva Mkhonto freedom 😂😂😂 ✊

  • @MakatsiMkhabela
    @MakatsiMkhabela 3 місяці тому +7

    Zuma is having ANC where he need them. Ramaphosa thought he had him where he wanted him and little did he knows he was dealing with a chess master.

    • @Futhi.Johnson
      @Futhi.Johnson 3 місяці тому

      Zuma is 5 steps ahead. ... period

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      We will see when he gets 2/3 majority😂😂😂 Shame he can master numbers

  • @samkunene7521
    @samkunene7521 3 місяці тому +9

    Mbeki agreed to campaign provided Zuma is hauled to DC.

  • @siyabongasithole2772
    @siyabongasithole2772 3 місяці тому +17

    Ongama had turned to an ANC spokeperson officially.

  • @TurboWealth_888
    @TurboWealth_888 3 місяці тому +2

    The ANC is treating Jacob Zuma as if is the object that belongs to them. Hlubuka Msholozi kulododi Hlubuka Maan. 😜💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

  • @ndamanekandamanei1965
    @ndamanekandamanei1965 3 місяці тому +11

    Only fools who do not have collective historical memory would question the postponement. Those who remember what happened when IFP foolishly marched on Luthuli House will see wisdom on the decison to postpone.

    • @siyabongasithole2772
      @siyabongasithole2772 3 місяці тому +12

      What was the rationality then of scheduling it. The historical facts existed even before the pronounced date. Who is a fool really? I think you are sir

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 3 місяці тому +3

      @@siyabongasithole2772 The rationale is a matter of constitutionalism. Anc's constitution sets out time lines within which suspension and disciplinary proceedings through a formal charge sheet, should be initiated. Both stages were initiated consistently within the timelines set out in section 25 of the ANC's constitution. A postponement could be sought by any party to the dispute. A DC charge sheet had to be issued within those time lines, otherwise charging zuma outside the prescribed time frames (that is after the elections) would have rendered the process a constitutional nullity. Please refrain from typing from a mirror, u can only see a fool hence your input.

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 3 місяці тому +1

      @@hgfku-tn6hb please respect yourself stop displaying your flamboyant imbecility for the world to see. Think of your ancestry.

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 3 місяці тому +2

      @@hgfku-tn6hb lf in your alternative reality intergrity, ethics and morality don't matter, please remain in that dark rabbit hole.

    • @dandyally9983
      @dandyally9983 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@ndamanekandamanei1965 again playing with words, did they not understand this when they set the date? Will MK stop marching after elections?

  • @sandilenjabulisokasbusisom6966
    @sandilenjabulisokasbusisom6966 3 місяці тому +5

    I take very high of the Doctor but to start with the Violence statement, was ANC blind before the initial announcement of sanctioning Zuma on the DC ???

    • @lindokuhlekhulasande4139
      @lindokuhlekhulasande4139 3 місяці тому

      No... Thy took the decision by no mistake...damn koop, Mbaks and Mothlate. Thy later got advised to be careful of the MK visuals that will surface from social media and media in general, which will give the MK momentum going to the elections.

  • @ngqabuthodube2068
    @ngqabuthodube2068 3 місяці тому +13

    The ANC is finished

    • @thandekavikilahle8081
      @thandekavikilahle8081 3 місяці тому +3

      Avoid taking your day Dreaming and make it a reality. You will suffer from stroke. After the 29 you will be stressed too much because ANC ngumbutho wesiźwe,therefore you will be shocked. Uzobona kakuhle wazi,ufunde ukuba iANC asiyo toy organisation akudlalelwa kuyo..

  • @user-ix4mq9fe6j
    @user-ix4mq9fe6j 3 місяці тому +4

    If the ANC was not good in managing situations this country could have gone with dogs between 1990 and 1994

    • @josephmkhondo125
      @josephmkhondo125 3 місяці тому

      The ANC together with the Apartheid government planned many things between This Era 1990 - 1994 so that was men made, the knew the outcome and had the remedy. Mandela being released from prison, who will govern and how, the economy and land, Chris Hani who was a stumbling block for others to acquire financial gains. So there is nothing that the ANC have to be praised for in that Era. Same as they do with load shedding today.

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      So u di not see a single change except 4 load shedding hay u r blind or else u lack tools of analysis. So even yo zuma did nothing😂😂😂

  • @mxolisimncube-dd5ng
    @mxolisimncube-dd5ng 3 місяці тому +8

    Weakest top 7 that is an ANC of cowards

  • @pierrevanryneveldtutorcenter
    @pierrevanryneveldtutorcenter 3 місяці тому

    ANC must leave Mr Zuma alone and focus on election and govern the country

  • @user-dv6nl5wq9l
    @user-dv6nl5wq9l 3 місяці тому +1

    Mtimka must clear his throat because he knows that what he says is not true, truth is that the ANC is lost and it doesn't know what to do.

  • @plaatjiemashego2256
    @plaatjiemashego2256 3 місяці тому +1

    MK Party is the 1st political party in the world to accommodate unemployed people through the establishment of uMkhonto We Sizwe Unemployed Ground Forces whose role is to recruit unemployed people in South Africa to rally behind Msholozi and vote MK PARTY 💚🖤

  • @Futhi.Johnson
    @Futhi.Johnson 3 місяці тому +1

    ANC nearly scored their own goal.... probably someone told them to stop acting stupidly

  • @siyabongajacobdlamini1764
    @siyabongajacobdlamini1764 3 місяці тому +9

    Either way people don't support Zuma because of elections, even after the elections the security problem will be still be a problem.

    • @thandekavikilahle8081
      @thandekavikilahle8081 3 місяці тому

      After elections people will be sober. Now they suffer from election fever. After election the virus will be over. It will be less venomous.

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      We r busy with campaigns we do not have time 4 this zuma now. Sizakumxosha after the elections

    • @siyabongajacobdlamini1764
      @siyabongajacobdlamini1764 3 місяці тому

      @@ntsikeleloedwardvena82 🤣🤣🤣

  • @theaskmembuyazi
    @theaskmembuyazi 3 місяці тому +2

    Whether iDC imanje or later angiboni kubalulekile n nokuthi iDC i-independent or not, it all ANC. What is more alarming would be if there's something from Con Court that says 'myekeleni kithi'

  • @akachillas6437
    @akachillas6437 3 місяці тому +3

    Zuma defeat them silently,I like his wisdom and power,the masses are behind him against cyril.

  • @user-lf8xp2lw7b
    @user-lf8xp2lw7b 3 місяці тому +5

    South African don't know Zuma is the only leader left on those whe registered ANC as a party...this why they find hard to deal with him... he can even de register ANC if he want to.

  • @tapiwakatandi6763
    @tapiwakatandi6763 3 місяці тому +2

    Ramaposa faction always score own goals

  • @DENNISMARTINTOPKIN-fz6ie
    @DENNISMARTINTOPKIN-fz6ie 3 місяці тому +8

    Zuma whant to be the victim

    • @user-gu4df7mk6x
      @user-gu4df7mk6x 3 місяці тому +8

      Zuma didn't call himself to the disciplinary.

    • @sanelisiwedlamini7142
      @sanelisiwedlamini7142 3 місяці тому +5

      He is actually the victim

    • @MBReader410
      @MBReader410 3 місяці тому +1

      Who in the ANC decided to give Zuma this platform?

    • @user-ww5qw8jd3b
      @user-ww5qw8jd3b 3 місяці тому +2

      Zuma always pulls victim card. That's why they called off DC

  • @Nombeko-vj6wn
    @Nombeko-vj6wn 3 місяці тому +4

    Hayi isingisi akuzwakali

    • @vut_zarco
      @vut_zarco 3 місяці тому +1

      Blame your ANC govt for that

  • @RonnieBulloch
    @RonnieBulloch 3 місяці тому

    Just goes to show how cowardly the ANC are...the clowns in Parliament

  • @marlewarthlegune8007
    @marlewarthlegune8007 3 місяці тому +2

    I think u were suppose to speak about unemployment, poverty and high petrol price with Mtiki not one man. People are suffering and u focus on Zuma. Poor u

  • @jbmzala
    @jbmzala 3 місяці тому

    I think the ANC stage managed this thing, why in the first place did they arrange this meeting and then cancel it

  • @SummerEM
    @SummerEM 3 місяці тому

    This political analysts is very biased

  • @kansiiimebrian5254
    @kansiiimebrian5254 3 місяці тому +3

    Ongama is a mbeki spy....useless anaylist

  • @Bosun659
    @Bosun659 3 місяці тому +6

    uMtika is a very poor talking head.His analysis is biased shame

    • @sibonazikalala8971
      @sibonazikalala8971 3 місяці тому +4

      Ongama Mtimka is a known ANC staunch supporter who is always against Zuma and MK. The reason why the ANC postponed the hearing is that they did not want the world to see how much support President JZ enjoys. Viva MK Viva! Amandlaaaaa!

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      Ok so this DC is about zuma support not about his conduct. Hay maan i did not know. Thanx u helped me😂😂😂

  • @soobspandaram4366
    @soobspandaram4366 3 місяці тому +3

    What a sham by the ANC. Any excuse for the ruling party to save face.

  • @dumisaninxumalo7574
    @dumisaninxumalo7574 3 місяці тому +6

    The fact that the ANC can tell the DC to halt the process shows that it is not independent and the next question becomes who controls it...Ramaphosa

    • @ndamanekandamanei1965
      @ndamanekandamanei1965 3 місяці тому +3

      Regrettably your input shows ignorance of the ANC's constitution.

    • @thandekavikilahle8081
      @thandekavikilahle8081 3 місяці тому

      DC is the DC of the ANC, therefore the ANC leadership has à responsibility to ensure that it is working peaceful without any disturbance. Even the very DC has been constituted by the ANC. In reality I don't understand your understanding of the DC procedures of. the ANC. It looks like you mislead people with your empty knowledge of the ANC.You think that ANC is president Ramaphosa. A free advice, when you don't know don't contribute until you get facts

  • @mxolisimagagula5071
    @mxolisimagagula5071 3 місяці тому

    The top 7 f ANC hardly think deeply before action Zuma simply trigger their emotions and the rest you can imagine.

  • @user-fq6lm5bo9h
    @user-fq6lm5bo9h 3 місяці тому

    Anc iphathe for 30 yrs but ingqondo ayikho tu yonke into abayenzayo stupidness lekomiti labo liyabhayiza lihlangene nalombheki uyabanyisa uZuma viva msholozi viva woza 29🎉🎉🎉

  • @martinletsoalo9051
    @martinletsoalo9051 3 місяці тому

    no difference either next year ,christmas day is the same????

  • @elizabethandrsu369
    @elizabethandrsu369 3 місяці тому +2

    We SouthAfrican Citizens feeling undermined by this ANC. Especially by Mbalula who just talks as he likes with people. Ofcourse the people like FIKILE, have the slice of cake from the( Tax payer's sweat of their forehead. ) The question is, for what good / bad reason are they are earning millions? Answer :(-Swearing all the time at other people.) (Our children need jobs because they don't want to eat from the Taxpayers's sweat and they are not Taxpayers pick pocketers. )Thank you.

    • @MakatsiMkhabela
      @MakatsiMkhabela 3 місяці тому +1

      Everything is interesting in South Africa in terms of politics. The ANC never thought the day will come when it will be challenged.

  • @user-no3jr2nt4s
    @user-no3jr2nt4s 3 місяці тому +6

    ANC of briefcases is a nightmare for South Africa, their intervention and desicions are mainly influenced by suitcases,their politics are stomach based,they have long forgotten the struggle and history of the people,Msholozi is bitter and concerned that the next generation is about to experience what they and their forefathers experienced, so is fighting to revive that courage within the new generation who has less history about their origin, I back umsholozi for that reason, he is a true soldier and fighter of apartheid,let South Africans realise and support the man and his idea,for a better new South Africa his part and eff must lead the country from this era,I recall a statement by Malema that I quote" ANC will clean its self" its now evident former ANC stalwarts who hate corruption are up against the rotten to core ANC leadership for the good of the people,aluta continua Msholozi and Juju,grab the bull by its horns,.amandla.

    • @thandekavikilahle8081
      @thandekavikilahle8081 3 місяці тому +4

      Which South Africa are you talking about? Few people who cannot think strait are those you see them having nightmare. It is difficult to reason with bitter people because they go with the bitterness and form ɓitter parties. Everybody in that Zuma party is bitter. Why such bitterness. Try to sit and think what is the source of this bitterness.If ÿour nightmare ànd bitterness is not addressed it will kill you. Try to deal with it. You can't lead people with bitterness because you will plant that bitterness to all your followers. learn to pray for that bitterness it is dangerous to those in the party.

    • @fanamlawuli6761
      @fanamlawuli6761 3 місяці тому

      Amandla!

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      True soldier & fighter who forgot the people during his 9 wasted years & looted the state resources with the guptas

    • @fanamlawuli6761
      @fanamlawuli6761 3 місяці тому

      @@ntsikeleloedwardvena82 well ramaposa was thinking about the people when he stuffed millions in international bribes under his sofa? When he had people people shot in Marikana? When he and is greedy comrades, spent 500 billion in a flesh and have nothing to show for it, this is all in the space of 6 years, I wonder what hell he has for us if he ( god forbid) where to come back for the next 5years

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      U mean the millions that bought his buffaloes nhe.

  • @user-lf8xp2lw7b
    @user-lf8xp2lw7b 3 місяці тому

    Sometimes analyst advised other political parties like anc indirect.. because anc was going to proceed with it but because had this advised of Zuma getting support through this..they are now stopping

  • @mondlintshangase1671
    @mondlintshangase1671 3 місяці тому +6

    Vote DA save South Africa 👍

  • @akachillas6437
    @akachillas6437 3 місяці тому +1

    Cyrils ANC has realized that south Africans are not happy the way they treat ZUMA and we can rise against the ANC KA CYRIL.

    • @thandekavikilahle8081
      @thandekavikilahle8081 3 місяці тому +2

      Leave Cyril and the ANC thè people's organisation out of these petty problems of these smallernyana parties. Umbutho wesizwe is busy. Because lamaqenjana avuka engceni awanazo neeprogrammers mawangarhuduleli upresident ne ANC Koloa daka please.

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      So it was the ANC of Zuma when he was the president. Yekile uba yi people's movement. Thanx u helped me I didn't know😂😂😂

  • @amazinginformation5898
    @amazinginformation5898 3 місяці тому +3

    Yoh Ave ngithanda ukulalela ama interviews ka Xoli akachemi nanhlangano and yakulunda patiently ukhulume ukhulume bese eza nombuzo onzima kazi

  • @user-yp1pu8kj7p
    @user-yp1pu8kj7p 3 місяці тому

    Hmmm fuel ⛽️ to fire 🔥 huh

  • @user-ng2yc3wc2r
    @user-ng2yc3wc2r 3 місяці тому

    Anc campaign in Takalani sesame

  • @SibusisoMavimbela-dm5zl
    @SibusisoMavimbela-dm5zl 3 місяці тому +2

    Bebangazi ukuthi bamfunelani

  • @lungelosntuli3127
    @lungelosntuli3127 3 місяці тому

    Zuma is feeding xoli’s family

  • @thembanimgenu190
    @thembanimgenu190 3 місяці тому

    The ANC has always been a start/stop movement so timid, always. That's why the country still look like this.

  • @stephenbright9316
    @stephenbright9316 3 місяці тому +1

    Zuma has the anc by the b@lls, he has probably threatened to open Pandora's Box on all the corruption issues that has been going on,
    ie - the anc takes Zuma down and he will take them all down with him. He's won already. Quite a clever man, considering he has a standard 3 education! 😂😂

    • @lufefekalipa580
      @lufefekalipa580 3 місяці тому +4

      Education has nothing to do with his cleverness. Uyaphapha

    • @ntsikeleloedwardvena82
      @ntsikeleloedwardvena82 3 місяці тому

      He warned long time ago makakhulume kudala uNdosi emxelela. Zakude afe engakhulumanga niks

  • @mzinkosi6082
    @mzinkosi6082 3 місяці тому

    😅🤣😂

  • @user-ix4mq9fe6j
    @user-ix4mq9fe6j 3 місяці тому +2

    U Zuma yingozi ufuna ukulunyukela everything its all about him ne family yakhe

  • @user-ix4mq9fe6j
    @user-ix4mq9fe6j 3 місяці тому

    That's good decision u Zuma uzama ukuba kungavotwa makatotobiswe kufike I elections zidlule uyawlitshisa eli lizwe u Zuma ukuba animjonganga

    • @mphumzadlamini5480
      @mphumzadlamini5480 3 місяці тому

      Zuma wants 2/3 majority for the reason we all know, not to burn izwe with those voted but a better life for you