I was an Auxiliary Fire Captain during the 60s with FDNY. I was assigned to The Community Relations Bureau and rode with the ORIGINAL SUPER PUMPER AND ITS SATELLITES. It's amazing how everything has become so very streamlined. The FDNY Super Pumper was a Marine Pumper on a modified trailer. Damn thing could knock down walls. We responded to every second alarm below 59th Street in Manhattan New York City with the entire Super Pumper system. The Satellites responded to every Second alarm in Brooklyn, Queens, The Bronx and Staten Island. The entire Super Pumper System responded to every Third Alarm Fire in the City of New York. Thanks for the memories.
Heck line up 3 of those trucks across the head of a canyon pumping like I described and you could cover 3000 feet of front, with support pumpers you could wet down a 1000 foot wide fire line and potential dump enough water mist into the fires air supply to chill it to death?
10000 with pressurized sources of water, or 5000 gallons per minute on its own, which is not too shabby itself, its not the superpumper from new york nor its huge accutraments but 5000 will reach and get water to a fire in and of it self very well.
It's more about the pump and the engine than the manufacturer. ANY major apparatus manufacturer could build a truck with these specs. It's all just what engine and pump that you spec. The rest is just the wrapper you put it in.
Engineering a truck that equipment fits into and integrating it all together, that's what the manufacturer has accomplished. It's no menial task and I see no reason not to give them credit for it.
@@charmio It's building a tool box on wheels... It's not like it's a jet fighter. Fit and finish is pretty much the only distinguishing factor between manufacturers.
@@ffjsbYou'd think but I've been involved in the design of machinery before and if there's one thing I learnt it's nothing is ever as simple as it seems and always add 50% onto your estimate for how long it will take. And if you don't get it right it really sucks to have to organise a retrofit for equipment in the field, especially if it's only discovered years into production. I can attest to that one first hand.
@@charmio Pretty much all the big manufacturers like Pierce, Sutphen, KME, Ferrara, etc. all use standard sizes, and CAD to design their stuff. 99% of their stuff is plug and play... Pierce for example has used computers to laser cut parts from a stock sheet of material that may be for several trucks to be as efficient as possible, and each part is barcoded as to what part it is, and which job it's for. They've been doing that for years as well.
A sweep of 1000 feet set it on a sweep of 180 degrees every 10 seconds that would dump 55 gallons of water on every degree of the arc each pass and in a minute that would be 300 gallons/ degree of water sprinkler wetting on a brush fire. How much would a pump skid with one of those deluge nozzles mounted on top cost? I think I know how some neighborhoods could stop the wild fires dead in CA. You would empty a couple of swimming pools in the few minutes it would run, but you would still have a bunch of houses, and the pools could be refilled.... Run it in a 360 in fog spray and embers would be suppressed well too.
I do think..definitely would. People get injured with regular fire hoses, when they use them In crowds to control protesters. I would imagine this thing could literally blow you 100 feet or more.
T.J D It is primarily used at industrial facilities where large extreme fire events can happen at anytime and a pressurized water system is in place. It can draft water from a water source on its own or as you can see in the video, it is being fed by another truck and the US Fire Pump trailer...
WOW!!!!!! I guess this Super Fire Pumper Engine , in it by itself can put N.Y.F.D.'s Mack Tractor Trailer Super Pumper of 20 years ago, in to permanent retirement. This old timer here is very much IMPRESSED!😬😱😵 Congratulations to your engineering department "Ferrara Fire Fighting Apparatus"!!! 🙆👍👏🚒🚒
Just wondering how the 600 HP engine is kept within working temperature while powering the pump at full capacity. Is there some sort of heat exchanger between the radiator and the pumped water supply?
As a former Firefighter/Engineer, the answer to your question in today's World is yes, there is a small line which can feed tank water to the Truck Engine if need be during a hot Summer Day. However, back in my day, during the Summer time, not all Pumpers had that option, so what I used to do, was open up the Hood or Engine Cowls, and just let the heat vent out that way.
This plus a bunch of hose (a mile maybe) in place of the monitors with pond siphons would replace a whole fleet of rural tankers? Could it be built that cheaply?
you have to have AMAZING water pressure from you hydrants or do what the are doing in the video draft from a lake or river or pond to supply all that. But in most rural areas you will not have the water pressure to supply that engine
Clayton Cuthrell this is designed to be used in a large industrial plant setting, for industrial fire brigades. No way this would work with rural fire departments trying to flow the amount of water they did in this video.
They require a pressurized water source. In New York City we had special fire hydrants for the Super Pumper. Other Engine Companies had to feed the Super Pumper where the special hydrants weren't available. Sometimes the fireboats will feed the Super Pumper.
And with this kind of power, like the FDNY found with their 10,000 GPM superpumper- it could knock out foot thick brick facade walls and caused collapses of facades, too much pressure on 100 year old brick walls is a bad thing!
It's a specialty apparatus. From Ferrara's website: "Forged in Louisiana’s Petro-Chemical Alley, the Ferrara Inundator Super Pumper was designed with the purpose of exceeding the increasing flow demands of today’s high application rate storage tanks and process units." It's not intended for "daily" use by an average department.
I can't help but think there would be a vegetation fire application for this (so Cal here). Amazing...did you ever consider that in the design of this?
good equipment to have if there was enough water in the country to utilize. With more and more firefighters running out of water during a fire battle these new trucks are useless. I believe over the past week I have witnessed at least 4 fires go unattended due to no water availability OR , b multiple trucks get dispatched with only 1 being able to run an active line due to lack of water. 2 fires had to bet let go until the fire burned itself out due to absolute no water available. I am certain there are other avenues that do not require water to fight fires and that will be the future of fire fighting.
I don't think these impressive things are very practical. They're designed for industrial fires which in 95% have to be fight with foam. With a 1:50 AFFF mix, you need 400L of AFFF per minute. That's quite a lot .....
It is affordable if the police department goes in halfsies. Ok For large fire operations. Police for riot control, where lethal force is authorized. Push all the protestors off the street. ...... for three blocks at one time.
Put on a firefighting boat seems to be the only practical application here: it can mosey around a harbor as needed, and it floats on the water it shoots. On land, the hoses feeding the superpumper are monsters that no mere humans could possibly move around and set up before the target were already a total loss. The demonstration video looks gimmicky with a shallow skim of oil generating photogenic black smoke and then being rained on as it's going out on its own. -- While the video promotes it as an industrial solution, the superpumper is not going to work worth a damn in any petro-refinery fire (where the probability of getting blown up in a BLEVE is why you stand a mile away and let them burn themselves out).
You clearly don't know much about firefighting. Laying out the hose is easy, it just feeds off of the truck. And only pressure tanks will BLEVE. A large tank in a tank farm will not BLEVE. The FDNY Super Pumper was more powerful than this, and was used very successfully.
1) those are not ordinary hoses. You need TEAMS to boss those suckers around. 2) any tank full of flammable liquid is a BLEVE candidate once it is surround by fire and its contents begin boiling. 3) Citation-needed (FDNY pumper).
In a fire in a tank storage facility cooling the tanks that are not yet on fire, or exploded, is the main task. In a chemical factory near where I live there had been an explosion when I still was a kid, in 1975. Several large tanks that contained naphta (around 20000-30000 gallons each) were on fire, and six 60ft diameter spherical tanks with pressurized gas in them where exposed to the flames and the heat. While the solution for the tanks with naphta to let them burn out, cooling these tanks from the outside to prevent them collapsing and sending a tsunami of burning liquid trough the complex, as well as cooling the pressurized gas spheres to prevent a Bleve was the main task of a legion of several hundreds of fire fighters, the fire lasted for 2 weeks and all that time they had to keep the water flowing. That is were these super pumpers have their use, as they can substitute multiple normal fire engines and deliver the stream from a larger and safer distance.
Lmao 4 hours? takes me and 3 guys to set up our 6k GPM Pierce pumper about 5-10 minutes. and thats to get about 400 ft of 7' supply line down and charged.
I was an Auxiliary Fire Captain during the 60s with FDNY. I was assigned to The Community Relations Bureau and rode with the ORIGINAL SUPER PUMPER AND ITS SATELLITES.
It's amazing how everything has become so very streamlined. The FDNY Super Pumper was a Marine Pumper on a modified trailer. Damn thing could knock down walls. We responded to every second alarm below 59th Street in Manhattan New York City with the entire Super Pumper system. The Satellites responded to every Second alarm in Brooklyn, Queens, The Bronx and Staten Island. The entire Super Pumper System responded to every Third Alarm Fire in the City of New York.
Thanks for the memories.
We really needed this when the California wildfires were massive a couple weeks ago.
Arnulfo Reyes unless the fire is next to a lake or river. This thing would run out of water in seconds. So this won’t be ideal for that
Heck line up 3 of those trucks across the head of a canyon pumping like I described and you could cover 3000 feet of front, with support pumpers you could wet down a 1000 foot wide fire line and potential dump enough water mist into the fires air supply to chill it to death?
10000 with pressurized sources of water, or 5000 gallons per minute on its own, which is not too shabby itself, its not the superpumper from new york nor its huge accutraments but 5000 will reach and get water to a fire in and of it self very well.
It's more about the pump and the engine than the manufacturer. ANY major apparatus manufacturer could build a truck with these specs. It's all just what engine and pump that you spec. The rest is just the wrapper you put it in.
Strange though that they don’t!
Engineering a truck that equipment fits into and integrating it all together, that's what the manufacturer has accomplished. It's no menial task and I see no reason not to give them credit for it.
@@charmio It's building a tool box on wheels... It's not like it's a jet fighter. Fit and finish is pretty much the only distinguishing factor between manufacturers.
@@ffjsbYou'd think but I've been involved in the design of machinery before and if there's one thing I learnt it's nothing is ever as simple as it seems and always add 50% onto your estimate for how long it will take.
And if you don't get it right it really sucks to have to organise a retrofit for equipment in the field, especially if it's only discovered years into production. I can attest to that one first hand.
@@charmio Pretty much all the big manufacturers like Pierce, Sutphen, KME, Ferrara, etc. all use standard sizes, and CAD to design their stuff. 99% of their stuff is plug and play... Pierce for example has used computers to laser cut parts from a stock sheet of material that may be for several trucks to be as efficient as possible, and each part is barcoded as to what part it is, and which job it's for. They've been doing that for years as well.
The new FDNY Super Pumper, all contained on one Engine. needing 5 more to feed it, lol
my department was amazed when we saw that
Bruce Parsons It's pretty amazing to see in person to...thanks
A sweep of 1000 feet set it on a sweep of 180 degrees every 10 seconds that would dump 55 gallons of water on every degree of the arc each pass and in a minute that would be 300 gallons/ degree of water sprinkler wetting on a brush fire. How much would a pump skid with one of those deluge nozzles mounted on top cost? I think I know how some neighborhoods could stop the wild fires dead in CA. You would empty a couple of swimming pools in the few minutes it would run, but you would still have a bunch of houses, and the pools could be refilled.... Run it in a 360 in fog spray and embers would be suppressed well too.
Fantastic bit of kit assuming you have enough water supply.
I remember the days we had to run to the lake with buckets to put fires out.
...Had to run barefoot in the snow, uphill both ways lol
Mad Max you must be 178 years old 😂
I want a few like these just for our factory and oil refinery district in my city.
I can't believe no one has said it yet so I'll do it:
"Say 'ello to my little friend!"
or
Now that's my kind of super soaker.
Long tall Sally's so sweet, she got everything that uncle John needs!
Was this filmed at TEEX Brayton Fire Training Field in College Station
It would probably kill someone at close range, don't you think?
+David Rudmin Most likely :()
David Rudmin yup
I do think..definitely would. People get injured with regular fire hoses, when they use them In crowds to control protesters. I would imagine this thing could literally blow you 100 feet or more.
Only one way to find out!
Joseph Astier lmfao try it on yourself :)
impressive,but what do you need to feed this thing all that water?
T.J D It is primarily used at industrial facilities where large extreme fire events can happen at anytime and a pressurized water system is in place. It can draft water from a water source on its own or as you can see in the video, it is being fed by another truck and the US Fire Pump trailer...
+ferrarafireapparatus how are the firefighting attachments controlled from inside the cab are they joystick or are they operated manually
The monitors are remote controlled or manually controlled from the side panel.
WOW!!!!!! I guess this Super Fire Pumper Engine , in it by itself can put N.Y.F.D.'s Mack Tractor Trailer Super Pumper of 20 years ago, in to permanent retirement. This old timer here is very much IMPRESSED!😬😱😵 Congratulations to your engineering department "Ferrara Fire Fighting Apparatus"!!! 🙆👍👏🚒🚒
@@howdoyoulikethat5253 The piss-poor political
Mis-management of the city took care of it!
No water necessary!
Just wondering how the 600 HP engine is kept within working temperature while powering the pump at full capacity. Is there some sort of heat exchanger between the radiator and the pumped water supply?
As a former Firefighter/Engineer, the answer to your question in today's World is yes, there is a small line which can feed tank water to the Truck Engine if need be during a hot Summer Day. However, back in my day, during the Summer time, not all Pumpers had that option, so what I used to do, was open up the Hood or Engine Cowls, and just let the heat vent out that way.
@@kevinswinyer3176 Thanks for your answer Kevin.
This plus a bunch of hose (a mile maybe) in place of the monitors with pond siphons would replace a whole fleet of rural tankers? Could it be built that cheaply?
you need like 100000 dollars of hose
RIP origional Super Pumper of the FDNY.
you have to have AMAZING water pressure from you hydrants or do what the are doing in the video draft from a lake or river or pond to supply all that. But in most rural areas you will not have the water pressure to supply that engine
Clayton Cuthrell this is designed to be used in a large industrial plant setting, for industrial fire brigades. No way this would work with rural fire departments trying to flow the amount of water they did in this video.
They require a pressurized water source. In New York City we had special fire hydrants for the Super Pumper. Other Engine Companies had to feed the Super Pumper where the special hydrants weren't available. Sometimes the fireboats will feed the Super Pumper.
This would be brilliant on some forest fires.
Canuto Manila wonder if there using this truck on any of forest in California :( 😁
Or on rioters !
Adrian Garcia not enough water in California to supply one of these
The problem is the road and not having enough water constantly for this
Put the pump on a Cat tanker 6x6, 12,000 gals of water. Beat helicopter drops.
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Can you send it to fight the wildfires in california?
yeah, but once you turn this thing on no one in town will have any water pressure.
And with this kind of power, like the FDNY found with their 10,000 GPM superpumper- it could knock out foot thick brick facade walls and caused collapses of facades, too much pressure on 100 year old brick walls is a bad thing!
It's a specialty apparatus. From Ferrara's website: "Forged in Louisiana’s Petro-Chemical Alley, the Ferrara Inundator Super Pumper was designed with the purpose of exceeding the increasing flow demands of today’s high application rate storage tanks and process units." It's not intended for "daily" use by an average department.
I can't help but think there would be a vegetation fire application for this (so Cal here). Amazing...did you ever consider that in the design of this?
Yes but it is impractical due to weight
@@Izak213 How so? It's on wheels. Just beef it up.
SO How does the nozzle change format Ferrara fire apparatus?
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Because we needed a truck mounted 8-inch Blitz fire
Does she even have a water tank?
good equipment to have if there was enough water in the country to utilize. With more and more firefighters running out of water during a fire battle these new trucks are useless. I believe over the past week I have witnessed at least 4 fires go unattended due to no water availability OR , b multiple trucks get dispatched with only 1 being able to run an active line due to lack of water. 2 fires had to bet let go until the fire burned itself out due to absolute no water available. I am certain there are other avenues that do not require water to fight fires and that will be the future of fire fighting.
I don't think these impressive things are very practical.
They're designed for industrial fires which in 95% have to be fight with foam.
With a 1:50 AFFF mix, you need 400L of AFFF per minute.
That's quite a lot .....
is this apparatus just use water or foam can be used also?
It can use both if I'm not mistakenly
one word Pierce
Phill Garelli is better lol
I love custom pumpers
Takes 3 days to set up
I bet 10 of these could stop a Forest fire Flaming front.
This is good, but needs more gallons for wildfires. Bump those numbers up to 20,000 to 30,000gpm. Unpressurized.
I wish I had wun of these as diecast fire truck
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That is what the city of Plainfield Ind needed when they was fighting the walmart d.c.
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It is affordable if the police department goes in halfsies. Ok For large fire operations. Police for riot control, where lethal force is authorized. Push all the protestors off the street. ...... for three blocks at one time.
Nice video but Ferrara isnt exactly lighting the world on fire
Put on a firefighting boat seems to be the only practical application here: it can mosey around a harbor as needed, and it floats on the water it shoots. On land, the hoses feeding the superpumper are monsters that no mere humans could possibly move around and set up before the target were already a total loss. The demonstration video looks gimmicky with a shallow skim of oil generating photogenic black smoke and then being rained on as it's going out on its own. -- While the video promotes it as an industrial solution, the superpumper is not going to work worth a damn in any petro-refinery fire (where the probability of getting blown up in a BLEVE is why you stand a mile away and let them burn themselves out).
I'm trying to mentality picture a fireboat heavy enough to haul this thing around "blasting" backward as it were a 1oz Styrofoam cup.
You clearly don't know much about firefighting. Laying out the hose is easy, it just feeds off of the truck. And only pressure tanks will BLEVE. A large tank in a tank farm will not BLEVE. The FDNY Super Pumper was more powerful than this, and was used very successfully.
1) those are not ordinary hoses. You need TEAMS to boss those suckers around. 2) any tank full of flammable liquid is a BLEVE candidate once it is surround by fire and its contents begin boiling. 3) Citation-needed (FDNY pumper).
In a fire in a tank storage facility cooling the tanks that are not yet on fire, or exploded, is the main task.
In a chemical factory near where I live there had been an explosion when I still was a kid, in 1975.
Several large tanks that contained naphta (around 20000-30000 gallons each) were on fire, and six 60ft diameter spherical tanks with pressurized gas in them where exposed to the flames and the heat.
While the solution for the tanks with naphta to let them burn out, cooling these tanks from the outside to prevent them collapsing and sending a tsunami of burning liquid trough the complex, as well as cooling the pressurized gas spheres to prevent a Bleve was the main task of a legion of several hundreds of fire fighters, the fire lasted for 2 weeks and all that time they had to keep the water flowing.
That is were these super pumpers have their use, as they can substitute multiple normal fire engines and deliver the stream from a larger and safer distance.
take whatever firefighting experience you have, and master your craft. Let the industrial firefighters handle the big stuff. lmao
It should only take 4 hours to set that up if you had a lake and enough room. Money well spent. NOT!
Lmao 4 hours? takes me and 3 guys to set up our 6k GPM Pierce pumper about 5-10 minutes. and thats to get about 400 ft of 7' supply line down and charged.
If it take you 4 hours to set this up you're extremely slow
where was this shit on 9/11
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Someone INSTALL THIS THING ON THE WHITE HOUSE CROWD CONTROL JOYSTICK ROOM!!! THE GOP WILL THANK YOU!!;
the turbo loscher is better
That's no super pumper.
The "Save the Earth" activist don't stand a chance now.
No way a water pump put out an oil fire ,just turned off the oil
Would work great on Antifa
Very bad crach of car and trucks
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