When is it wrong to forgive?
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- Опубліковано 9 бер 2023
- When is right to forgive? When should you NOT forgive? There are times when you cannot forgive, because to do so would be a sin.
Michael Pearl teaches through several scriptures on forgiveness: when we should and SHOULD NOT forgive.
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I am a man who lives in South Eastern WA State. Saved as a boy ect. I lived in Tennessee as a youngster & my grandparents have known Pastor Pearl longer than I have been alive. I saw & learned his Bible Teachings as a boy. I have sinned a lot. I have no criminal record, but the temptation of Internet has got me a few times. I have also never been guilty to adultery. I pray a lot but am a very paranoid person. I have bad luck a lot. I have a brain injury & have had rumors spread about me a lot. Never the less I beg Gods forgiveness everyday. God Bless Pastor Pearls Teachings. They help me a lot.🙏
I had a head injury too.
It was like dying. The old me was just not there. Things changed. I lost most of my friends and 'family'. I almost shot myself one day. My life was a shambles for years, during which I prayed that God take my life every night when I went to bed, that I might not see another day.
Then I ran across Arnold Murray on UA-cam. I had never heard of anyone just reading through the Bible and trying to explain it along the way.
I read and studied with the aim to either KNOW it was the Word of God or throw it in the trash.
Years on, He has slowly healed me, my relationships, and is now moving to teach me the wisdom of some of the knowledge I have learned.
It's hard being broken on the inside, especially if we look fine on the outside.
Jesus is going to get you through, brother. Just a little longer yet and we'll be home with Him.
I pray that He be glorified mightily in your sufferings!
May your reward be great in Heaven!
Begging His forgiveness will not get you born again. You need to believe and trust in His blood. Listen to Mike Pearl’s “Are You Saved/Born Again” to begin to understand this.
@@karimartin6317Faith in Christ blood is the key that opens the door to reconcile you with God The Father ! Amen
Nothing stops the worldly and/or physical repercussions of sin. That said; I have forgiven all for anything that has to do with me personally, and guess what? Heavenly things put aside, it made me feel better! No longer burdened with anger and feelings of wanting revenge, I feel free! I leave justice to God.
I do too or else I would be in prison.
Amen. People are all too willing to hear that they can judge whether someone is allowed to be forgiven or not. It's too hard to let go, so someone telling them they don't have to is like someone turning the lights off in your room before you go go sleep. You get to keep your comfort, and they get to say they've shown somebody love and care. The oven is still on, the water is still running in the sink, and the house you're living in isn't yours, but at least you get to be comfortable. It ain't worth it.
Listening to a full teaching he has on this subject and he’s not saying to hold on to bitterness. We forget that forgiveness is a legal transaction not just an emotional state of mind. We can’t legally in Gods economy forgive someone for a sin that they haven’t repented of but we can and need to release it emotionally and determine to be WILLING to forgive as soon as they repent. Even then, repentance takes time to reveal its authenticity.
@Sam Lee Do you really think that God is that poor? Or have you forgotten that his mercy endureth forever? I would ask you what mercy he is talking about. I would then answer that it is the same mercy that allows God and Christ in God and God in Christ to make a path of forgiveness even though we did not want it. To guide us into it even though we did not know to look for it or even ask. God started all of this, this whole process of being sanctified and glorified, FOR FREE. Nobody in the kingdom of heaven pays for anything. Or, if you would hear, Jesus tells us in Matthew go literally give freely what we have freely recieved. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Matthew 10:8
It is a special type of blindness that allows one to refer go any legal transaction in a kingdom of liberty. He specifically says that we are no longer under the law. So how can you refer to laws and transactions as though you are forgiven because you repented. God didn't forgive you for your sake but for Christ's sake. That's the only reason you will even speak the name of God. God is much more holy than you know.
@@xavierthomas5835 so what are you trying to say, X?
The number of churches I’ve seen divided over this difficult yet simple issue in my 30 years on this earth is astounding. So many would rather sweep transgressions under the church rug than to remove an offending brother. I cannot thank you and the team at NGJ enough for being solid in this area. Thank you for this clear explanation of the scriptures.
Jesus said forgive them Father for they know not what they do.
@@RicardoCray AND...
@@rjdavis7503I give you this one commandment to replace all others….love others as I have loved you.
I love listening and learning from you I have been in such a deep hole for so long but I always give praise to our Heavenly Father i really do get a lot from watching your videos thank you so much and the scriptures you read is so clear anyone can understand it I know I do and you have my subscription forever thank you my brother.
Well, I guess I'M in trouble then, 'cause I USED to help out my cousin whom I USED to play music in my band with. I helped him expecting NOTHING in return, except MAYBE a little gratitude, when one day, I trusted him and left him alone inside of my garage for a few minutes, where most of my tools AND my late father-in-law's tools were kept. When I returned, he sure was in a hurry to leave my property, so I helped him load some of his belongings that I was trying to help him repair in my garage, BACK into his truck and he quickly left. But, when I turned around to put my tools away, I noticed my olms meter that we were using to test his amplifiers was missing when I was putting my tools away. I called him up and asked him if he knew where it was. He quickly answered that he didn't, (yet it was sitting directly in the area where we were working in my garage and was NOWHERE to be found when I looked SPECIFICALLY for it), but then he quickly hung up.
I, at that moment, made the decision to cut ALL TIES to him, since it was obvious that he DID take it WITHOUT asking me, THEN LIED to me for taking it. I don't understand how I'm supposed to forgive a THIEF so easily, 'cause when he stole from me, he ALSO was stealing from my ability to use my tool to support my family, not to mention, WHAT ELSE he may have stolen from my late father-in-law's tool boxes? He has NEVER came clean and admitted that he stole from me, NOR has he APOLOGIZED for taking it from me. I'm not sure how to deal with this now.
AND, I've already spoken of this to my other family and friends about the theft and why I cut him out of my connections. ☹️
I also love and enjoy learning from him. God bless ya! Best of luck🎉
"forgive them father, for they know not what they do". Case settled
You are comparing oranges to apples to bananas...
So why were the Pharisees angry when Jesus was forgiving sinners... and said only God can forgive sins? Do you believe Jesus was like/is God?
@Garbage man This is a different circumstance depicting not God manifested in the flesh, but judgment from our Lord.
I enjoy watching your sermons online. It’s been something I’ve practiced for years with many different pastors during the course of my life. I’ve tried going to church and I don’t fit in there, I never felt comfortable. So listening to different sermons online replaced churches in buildings. I am also a private person and dislike chaos or violence. Home and Jesus are my safe place to be. The world can judge me, but Jesus knows my heart. He knows what I’ve done and what I haven’t done. He also knows what I’ve been falsely accused of. To those people I forgive and leave in Jesus hands. So I don’t pay much attention to most people. I live my life and make the best out of what comes my way. I pray for guidance from Jesus and continue to move forward. I forgive and it’s not my place to judge, I wasn’t there and I didn’t see it with my own eyes. Therefore, I see nothing, I know nothing. So many these days are falsely accused of things that didn’t happen. I am not risking hurting another human being on rumors. Church leaders should keep that in mind as they unit to judge those they are in communion with.
He says, "You can forgive them in your heart but that does not avoid the penalty of the law, nor will they escape damnation."
I learned something today, thank you old wise man of the mountain, Iove your preaching.
I know right.
seeing titles on videos like this really gets my anxiety up. Now i have something ELSE TO WORRY ABOUT. As if i didnt have enough on my plate already.
Thank you Mr. Pearl! I always had trouble understanding passages like that, and you explained it very well. God bless you and everyone around you!
It's amazing the many trespasses made by individuals that never reap the consequences/accountability of their destructive actions.
I have faith that God will justly sort it out, with His divine grace through Christ, as He wills.
Thank you for the clarification. I was struggling with the last message regarding this topic and now I see clearly what you were speaking about.
Amen! Thank you and God bless. ✝️✝️✝️
Excellent explanation, as usual. Thank You!
Thank you Mr. Pearl, God Bless
I thank God for your channel on UA-cam Michael you are the best gentile preacher I have ever met i love you
Looking forward to your new book!
Thanks Michael
psalm103:10
He has not dealt with us according to our sins or repaid us according to our iniquities.
psalm 103:12
As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
2 corrin 5:19
For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
rom 8:1
Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,
What an outstanding message from God's Holy word. Beautiful understanding and discernment brother.
Great clarity
I want to thank you for this. It has help me. I'm coming out of belief, and have step out in the wrong way. After watching this I see now I need to step back seek God and work through forgiveness before speaking out. God bless you for this.
THANK YOU LORD JESUS THANK YOU FATHER GOD for this powerful teaching from our faithful brother micheal praise the LORD AMEN and AMEN
you can't beat a straight talking preacher.
II Corinthians 5:19 "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."
Correct. We are in the period of grace where God does not impute sins to men.
Have gotten much from your teaching. Thank you God Bless you
Thanks, I enjoy thinking about what you are teaching.
Thanks brother
You have a calming voice; I only know to forgive. Much love always.
Thank you!
Thank you brother ...
I just love learning from the word of Almighty God. Thankyou for helping me.
Thank you, Pastor, for your video. I always love watching your videos. They help me to grow in my faith with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Well said!
I think understanding that we ourselves have many trespasses against others (and God), many we don't even realize because of our own nature, then it makes it easier to forgive others. But when we think of ourselves as something great and mighty, it is easy to look at others, judge them, and refuse to forgive them because we can't understand how others can be so flawed.
Amen to that. There is nothing in the Word of God that prohibits me from forgiving a murderer, for instance. And when i read about believers and martyrs in other countries who do just that, it's obviously a good, spiritually fruitful, and Godly thing.
@@SeeSawMassacre amen and amen
Amen
I noticed all the apostles told God to for give them..that killed them. We have to forgive people so they can be free as well to go-to heaven . If we don't forgive people we can't go to heaven
We have to forgive those who sinned againts us. But it makes sence to ask God to have mercy on those who took a life. We have nothing to do with the crime. We are to pray .
@@DivineDisciple7 That's a good point. Love and grace are the order of the day for followers of Christ.
Dang, this guy is merciless
Thank you for your do diligence and discernment from the Lord.
*due
Become a fine a treasured pearl indeed
You should always forgive. There’s no point mulling over someone who hurt you for the rest of your life. It’s a decision that you must make before the Lord, and your feelings will follow in time. The key is that sometimes forgiveness involves reconciliation (that’s where you need to be careful), and many times it involves emancipation- cut them free and have nothing to do with them - separate from evil as Christians are always called to do. There’s a good video called “Two Levels of Forgiveness “ here on UA-cam by Smakintosh I highly recommend.
@Peter R I like your take but I have a question for you or anyone who can answer this. Are you supposed to forgive someone who doesn't ask for forgiveness? I do know we are to ask our heavenly father to forgive us if we want forgiveness so I'm wondering if the same rules apply?
I concur.
You release the matter to the Lord, praying for their salvation, but knowing they fully deserve and will receive righteous judgment if they refuse to repent.
As it pertains to worldly punishment, you may need to see it through even then to protect others and to put the fear of God into others who may consider doing the same.
To tolerate sin is to be party to it. You endanger the weaker souls by making it look too easy to sin.
You said, " The key is that sometimes forgiveness...involves emancipation- cut them free and have nothing to do with them."
Breaking free and having nothing more to do with someone can, in fact, be biblical, but that is NOT forgiveness. There are NO biblical examples of forgiveness being equated with emancipation or ostracization or anything polar to reconciliation.
Call it something else, but it not forgiveness. Biblical forgiveness, as modeled by Christ Jesus, always results in reconciliation or restoration.
@@kennethknott9138 I’m not talking about ostracizing anyone. Sometimes you need to ostracize yourself, like David hiding from Saul in the cave of Adullam. Jesus Himself was rejected, crucified, and said “forgive them for they know not what they do.” He left physically though and is seated at the right hand of God until his enemies be made His footstool. That’s different though because the Lord can and will take vengeance.
I love how David showed mercy to Saul’s offspring when they expected vengeance as in Mephibosheth.
Forgiveness means you don’t make plans or hold desire for retribution.
@@Idiopathogen According to 1 Cor. 5:9-13, there is a definite place for ostracizing certain people who call themselves Christians but are living in certain, chronic sin.
As for your reference to Jesus on the cross, I believe you may be missing a couple of important points: Consider both Jesus and Stephen's plea to God on the cross as it related to forgiveness...
1) Note that neither Jesus nor Stephen cried out that they forgave their adversaries - rather they asked God to. However, God did not, in-fact, forgive the complicit crowds in either case. Only some of their adversaries were eventually forgiven, but only after they repented before God. In the case of Stephen's death, Acts 8:1 says Saul consented to his death, and we know he was not in-fact forgiven until much time later.
2) ...So, it is clear that both Jesus and Stephen expressed a willingness and desire for their adversaries to be forgiven, but their adversaries were not, in-fact, forgiven. There is a big difference.
3) Jesus could have easily said "I forgive you, all!" After all, He was God incarnate. He forgave only one thief on the cross who turned to him, but not the other. As for the crowd, he prayed that God would one day forgive them. Again, there is a big difference.
4. In every single case biblically where God forgives, there is a move on the part of the sinner toward right relationship. Yes, every single case.
5. True, godly forgiveness always results in some form of restored relationship - it takes two or more willing parties.
6. Luke 17:3-4 makes it clear that forgiveness is conditional upon repentance. This is modeled by Jesus Christ, without exception.
7. Therefore, the admonishment to forgive must be in context of two or more willing participants. As ambassadors of Christ, we must be willing to forgive, but it is literally impossible to "wish" or somehow mentally impute forgiveness upon an unwilling participant. Doing so is redefining forgiveness and is wrong.
I thought your last video was on point. We need to read our Bible more. Then we too shall see the Truth. Bless you brother Michael.
I'm still struggling with this. Thank you brother
I totally can relate but I confess I have forgiven alot of people I probably shouldn't Father knows I need that most probably
I always stick to " Judge not lest ye be judged" I leave it at that. " It aint my yob mang"...
Be careful, Michael is more and more in false teaching territory. First of all, all your sins are forgiven the moment you believe the gospel. It's very difficult for us to forgive, so it's not a commandement to keep in order to be saved or stay saved, yet we 'should' to forgive others whenever possible in our personal situations with others. Of course, there are cases it can take a lot of time and be impossible for us. It's why God is sovereign and deal with forgiving all our sins. The thumbnail used by Mike claims that God doesn't forgive all sinners, and it's a lie. God forgives all our sins when we believe the gospel, it's the ultimate reason Jesus died on the cross as the perfect lamb.
This has answered a lot of questions. Thank you for this message.
Matthew 7:
22. “Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?”
23. “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Amen and amen
That's very very very SCARY
@@ducksoon9981 It's only as scary as we are subject to it. If not, we have no need to fear. And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good? 1 Peter 3:13But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; 1 Peter 3:14
How is this passage relevant to this video?
@@xavierthomas5835
1 Peter 3:13
“And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?”
...Notice it says ( "IF") ye be followers, not just pretending to be.!
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Matthew 7:23 They are pretending to obey Jesus.
John 10:27
“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they (Follow) me:”
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Galatians 6:7
“Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.”
I have a question. I agree with you and thank you for your wisdom. My question is about the example you use of a murderer at the end. We are not to forgive him. That is one side of the story. Let's say hypothetically that he does repent for his sins. God is faithful and will forgive him. The blood of Jesus does and will wash him clean just as His blood cleanses us all. Do you agree? To take this example to the extreme, I believe that Hitler would be forgiven if he was truly repentant. I don't think he was repentant but if he was, he too would be saved. Let's say that the man in this story went on to live in the community and attended church. He went on to grow in faith and show fruits of his conversion. It would be right in my opinion that he be accepted as a brother. Let's say that in the church there are parents of the children who were murdered. This man has trespassed against them and as crushing and terrible as this scenario is, I think that the parents should forgive the man. I would like to know your take on this. Thank you Mr. Pearl.
thank you friend. Gods instructions should be more often preached.
Thank y’all so much GOD bless y’all all 🙏
If there are times when you cannot forgive, like murder, treason, betrayal, etc..
Why did Christ ask God to forgive them with his dying last breath on the cross saying they know not what they do?
I've always thought Jesus was talking about the men who put him on the cross? But not sure.
We crucified the Lord of Glory.
Amen!!
I always, all my life in fact, have been concerned about my willingness to forgive. I really do want and even expect to see real change but am frequently disappointed. I think the reason that I continue to have the same problem is there was only forgiveness. I should maybe stop that.
Thank you, this has been something I'm struggling with. I've only recently accepted Jesus into my life. I am a survivor of sibling sexual abuse by 2 brothers. I have struggled with how to forgive them. I know that God will judge them but I struggled with being judged for forgiveness of 2 people who have no remorse. As an 8 year old I didn't ask to be molested and to then be judged harshly for it. I don't know or understand
Hate the sin. Love the sinner. Forgiving is more for you than them. They will reap what they sow as we all will. Doesn't mean you forget or pretend it didn't happen. Just means you stop holding ill will (anger, rage, wishing of harm) toward them. God will be the judge. You have more important and beautiful things to look forward to than to live in the past. Praise God that you are choosing Him. Welcome to the family.
Isn't it a requirement for the person who trespasses to repent his trespasses? Otherwise someone can mock you every day and never change because you forgive the person and the person never has consequences and therefore never get the chance to change.
People will understand what is convenient for them to understand .
Honestly you’re correct. When you read and truly read rather on because when a person comes at you with intentions of harm you then they won’t be forgiven. People don’t truly read and truly study the Bible. Nothing lukewarm, impure and unclean will ever enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
Would adultery and abandonment be considered a sin against God?
I have been deeply grieved but I do not hold bitterness in my heart. I just want Gods will for my life.
Forgive so we can ask God for forgiveness we are all sinners
We have a situation where an adult “friend” who claimed to be a Christian, raped my 13 year old child over 120 times. Our family was completely destroyed because of this. He is not repentant as he has blamed the mother and one of the adult sons (who was his friend) for his evil deeds. The mother was caring for her dying mother and grieving dad while all of this was going on. She discovered what was happening 17 days after she buried her mom. The rapist has filed reports against the family in an attempt to blame us instead of himself. My family was completely innocent and in the dark during those 11 weeks. After the police report was filed he began tormenting the family, as soon as he got out of jail. He even hacked our Amazon account and obtained our new address as we had moved to try and hide from him. Although we had a protection order the police and victims advocate did nothing to help us. Now the family no longer lives together and total destruction has occurred. Even so much as the stress was more than the dad could handle and he suffered 6 strokes, has a brain tumor, is in end stage kidney failure, and had a slight heart attack.
I will not forgive this man for what he has done to us.
Jesus says when asked how many times must I forgive? His answer was 7 ×77, always forgive, if you refuse to forgive you will not be forgiven. If you truly repent he does forgive
It is amazing with the availability of Bibles that anyone would seek someone else to explain it to them when the Bible itself says to pray for the Holy Spirit to come and teach you all things. Another case of putting faith in men over faith in God. Then the same people sit and wonder what is wrong in the world.
I once told God to f off in pain believing je didnt care for me. I guess im done lived with this for many years. Cant aeem to find my way back .
Why against the state?? Which would be mammon
Simple question;
If someone i rarely see does something illegal to me, the police say they don't care and they got away with it and still even deny they have done anything wrong (clearly they do because they show fear of being arrested one day), so they aren't at all remorseful or sorry, then am i required by God to forgive them?
I don't want to appear like i am unforgiving, i am easily willing to forgive, but even how loving and good God is, He doesn't just forgive someone who isn't sorry and their debt wasn't paid by Christ.
So am i to go beyond what God does and forgive others even if they are not sorry and some even continue to repeat it?
Question...what if someone has curses and/or evil spirits that compel them to these sins...unbeknownst to them?Is it a cheap excuse or blame shift if a believer has been compelled to sin with these factors involved?What if two people are under dark influence and dont even know it and the sin just feeds back and forth so to speak? Thanks.
Actually, the Lord's Prayer in Luke 11:2-4 says "sins" instead of "debt", although the context is still others indebted to us.
Is not all sin equal? If not all sin being equal in value, the wages of sin, being death, is not all sin against our Heavenly Father, honestly? Yes, my ex has done all sorts of things I struggle right now trying to forgiver her of : there is no remorse, no regret, no repentance, an no asking for my forgiveness. In discussing this with other elders, I have been told all of a man's sins are either washed by the Blood of the Lamb, Forgiven and forgotten by the Father, or made known to all on Judgement Day, and those who died in their sin shall be cast into the lake of fire... SO.. What does MY forgiving of others who aren't asking for it, compare to our Father's Grace, when, again, she isn't seeking redemption nor restoration? What do I do?
Mr Pearl,
A women who has come to Christ and her husband is an alcoholic, except from pray and trust in jesus to change the circumstances.. what can the wife do to help him/ show him he needs Christ?
God bless you
@nin.d5265
You have one of the most difficult and rewarding jobs in the world. You get to represent Christ to a loved one from now until the Lord comes back. By walking in the fear of the Lord and displaying the beauty of holiness in your home your husband will come to know the goodness of God through your fellowship. I heard a testimony last night of a lady who had done that for 40 years before her husband came to Christ on his deathbed. She said because of her steadfastness in the Lord she would see her husband rejoicing with her throughout eternity.
It will be hard, don't lose hope. The Lord is with you and cheering you on, so are we!
Take some time to read over these scriptures and hide them in your heart.
May God bless you and may his face shine upon you.
1 Corinthians 7:13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. 14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. 3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Your brother in Christ,
Nathan Pearl
GOD knows your heart, HE doesn't need your words, or emotions, tears, or lies, or excuses. Judgement will come to all as they merit it, people do change and Jesus paid the price for our salvation, but the truth is not hidden from God and He will exact justice as He alone can.
The wicked take the truth to be hard.
I'm terrified
@@laurawhite4118 me toi
If a non believer blasphemed against the Holy Spirit, not understanding what they did and then comes to the Lord and repents, would he/she be forgiven?
There is a book (already) called "The Faith Matrix" By Bill Fleming ???
Hello I follow you religiously, can you please explain the brides that bring their oil and the ones that don’t? What does the oil represent is it faith or charity or what is God requiring from them, us?
@Jalopy Ranch. Mike has a series called Eight Kingdoms that he talks about that parable and others. I will link those for you. ua-cam.com/video/ruDi_OE9j6c/v-deo.html
Matthew 12:31
Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
So, do I get this right by thinking: I only forgive those that do bad deeds against me? If they do bad deeds against someone else, that's up to God to judge them?
As I understand it, it's a bit like the Common Law, where the person who had done the dirty deed, gets judged by a panel of people called the Jury. Is that right? It would be nice to put them down as bullet points, because I'm a little bit hazy on this.
You see, my step-father and my sister did some nasty things against me - they don't believe in God but I always have done. I've tried to give them information, Bibles and point them to people who would teach them about God and Jesus and the Holy Spirit, but they never seemed to want to. Recently, they did something really bad against me - deliberately - and though I struggled terribly with it, I had to find it in my heart to forgive them. I strove with all my heart not to judge them, choosing to leave that to God.
Turning it over to God is best.
Accept His judgment or Salvation, whichever they choose.
Pray for the latter, but shun them until they can convince you fully they are repentant.
is it okay to dispatch those that god will not forgive, from this earth, to receive their judgment from god?
Isaiah 53:11
Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.
Zechariah 13:1
On that day there shall be a fountain opened for the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, to cleanse them from sin and uncleanness.
Jeremiah 31:34
And no longer shall each one teach his neighbor and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they shall all know me, from the least of them to the greatest, declares the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Micah 7:18
Who is a God like you, pardoning iniquity and passing over transgression for the remnant of his inheritance? He does not retain his anger forever, because he delights in steadfast love.
Isaiah 43:25
I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I will not remember your sins.
Isaiah 44:22
I have blotted out your transgressions like a cloud and your sins like mist; return to me, for I have redeemed you.
Isaiah 40:11
He will tend his flock like a shepherd; he will gather the lambs in his arms; he will carry them in his bosom, and gently lead those that are with young.
Revelation 7:17
For the Lamb in the midst of the throne will be their shepherd, and he will guide them to springs of living water, and God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.
John 7:37-38
On the last day of the feast, the great day, Jesus stood up and cried out, If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.
Isaiah 58:11
And the Lord will guide you continually and satisfy your desire in scorched places and make your bones strong; and you shall be like a watered garden, like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail.
Jeremiah 31:12
They shall come and sing aloud on the height of Zion, and they shall be radiant over the goodness of the Lord, over the grain, the wine, and the oil, and over the young of the flock and the herd; their life shall be like a watered garden, and they shall languish no more.
Isaiah 35:10
And the ransomed of the Lord shall return and come to Zion with singing; everlasting joy shall be upon their heads; they shall obtain gladness and joy, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.
Revelation 21:4
He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.
Isaiah 25:8
He will swallow up death forever; and the Lord God will wipe away tears from all faces, and the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for the Lord has spoken.
I don't know if these verses can be taken as not forgiving someone, but more so just seperating and segregating yourself from those who practice these sins. Unforgiveness appears to be exclusively Gods power, and not ours. I could be wrong, so if you would, would you make an even more deep dive into this topic Pastor?
What about when they went to Stone that woman for adultery and Jesus through the line in the sand and said let one of you have not send throw the first stone we all have sinned was Her son not forgivable? Not the same as the boy you mentioned committing adultery? Sorry but I didn’t understand it. Hoping you can clarify because I’m super confused.
I suppose a main difference is that the Pharisees were not saved in Christ - who are they to condemn? This is different than Christians among Christians.
Also the scribes/pharisees were trying to snare Jesus. Their motives weren't righteousness.
Because all the accusers left, the charges they brought became moot.
John 8
7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
In John 3, Jesus says:
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
The time of judgement is later. If the adultererous woman repented of her sin and believed in Jesus, she will be saved. If not...
That passage is not really about forgiveness. Jesus said, "Where are your accusers?" because they had all left. Jesus therefore said, "Neither do I condemn you." He said that because he was all alone, and according to the Mosaic law, there had to be two or more witnesses to a breach of that law.
That said, her sin was certainly forgivable, but for Jesus to pardon her, there would need to be a move on her part toward reconciliation or restoration. Nowhere in the Bible does God or Jesus fully pardon someone otherwise - no once.
@@mrs.jaywojo5426 thank you 🙏🏼
@@kennethknott9138 I have heard that too Kenneth and I couldn't recall exactly what I was trying to remember. You said it perfectly.
“If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the Lord shall reward thee.” Forgiveness isn’t for them it’s for you. I have ppl in my life I have trouble with forgiving that’s why we have the Holy Spirit, we can’t do it in flesh alone. Love your enemies Jesus said he didn’t say hang out with them, you can love from a distance. The Bible encourages you to stay away from those kinds of people, vengeance is mine says the Lord. Let God handle it we are to hold our peace.
Is looking at a catalog with sole intent of deciding what to buy or just to see what you might would be interested in buy coveting? or looking at pictures of houses that you like and say inside, if I ever had the money I would buy a house like that, but not that house because it is in a state or location I don't want to live in because it is either too hot or too cold or too many storms or whatever. I don't even know who owns the house, just what it looks like based on pictures. I can't afford a $600,000 house and am not angry at anyone for having something I can't, but I still think it's a nice attractive house and would consider it something that be of interest if I did have the money.
What about an abusive narcissistic addicted son who has no remorse whatsoever for the pain and grief he caused and is causing his own mother ?
That's actually an excellent example of those who should be shunned.
If he repents, forgive, but he would have to show evidence of the truth of it over the long run.
G-d cannot forgive all people because most people refuse to admit that they are sinners is need of grace and unwilling to repent and submit to G-d. G-d is eager to save, but most people are resistant to Him. But G-d is also just.
How do I contact you? I have some questions about a personal matter
You can message Mike at ngjquestions@nogreaterjoy.org
@The Door so if I hit someone or cut some one or injured them in the past I can't be saved is that what you was saying. Cheers
??? I have a question about the end times/rapture... I think it's not supposed to happen until after Jesus' return. But mostly I'm curious if it will be during the time of his return or will it be after Jesus comes and has returned to Heaven again? What works will Jesus do when he returns and is there a time frame for how long he is to walk the Earth for the second coming?...
Go read Daniel and Revelation.
Matthew 18:21,22 Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive my brother when he sins against me? Up to seven times?"
Jesus answered, "I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times. [6
Negative. It is 70 x 7 (490) times.
Do you have any teaching on the possibility of someone coming to and accepting salvation after committing an immoral or heinous crime or already being a Christian
The Bible tells us to forgive continually. God forgives the repentant also.
What about Stephen when he asked the Lord ..”lay not this sin to their charge “…??? acts 7 60
The only sin that will no be forgiven is rejecting Jesus.
Not entirely true. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, as spelled out in scripture is when the Pharisees credited satan for the Holy Spirit’s work. That sin will not be forgiven.
Speaking against the Holy Spirit is unforgiven
@@Tony-wr3sc this is my understanding of the passage. An unforgivable sin in this lifetime and next was because Satan (beelzabub) was given credit for the work of Jesus casting out demons.
Blasphemy of the HOLY GHOST shall not be forgiven Matthew 12:32.
@@stevenhard3961aren’t you all missing the point that this blasphemy against the spirit is synonymous with rejecting Christ, who gifted us this spirit?
At 5:48 Mike said, "... the church should have a prayer meeting and caste the devils into this man..." Ummm, Where is that in the Bible exactly? It's not! That's adding to scripture. Delivering such a one to satan doesn't include us "casting devils into someone". That's nuts. I hope Mike just misspoke. I really hope he did.
What about times of war? Are those who have killed their enemies able to be forgiven, or are they all destined for hell?
Different circumstances.
The commandment clearly refers to criminal homicide.
War is a matter of obeying earthly authority in your life.
Ideally it would be to defend your people, but clearly it rarely is.
Remember, Jesus never told the centurions to quit, just to do their job honestly.
If I understand this correctly, we should forgive as Jesus forgives, but only _when_ Jesus forgives and not before? And, just as Jesus is always ready to forgive a repentant heart, we should also stand ready to offer forgiveness when a sinner turns from their sin.
Unless they repent, other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. Man cannot mock God, meaning God knows if you're being wholeheartedly about it. The only unpardonable sin is blasphemy. Pastor Pearl do you agree?
So based on what you're saying there are times when you should not forgive.....but Ephesians 4 :32 and Colossians 3:13 say's other wise
We should forgive if the person trully repents (turn away from the sins and towards Jesus). My wife brother in law had made advances towards to her 9 years when he was new to the country and we welcomed him into our home. Of course once I found out I told him to leave. However after all these years of bitterness for him I am trying to put those harsh feelings for him aside. Him and I are actually speaking and spend time together. However that does not mean I 💯 trust him but want to get along with him so the rest of our families can meet. Even my children and his children don't know what happened all those years ago.
Jesus said don't put new wine in old wineskins for if you do you will lose them both (meaning if you mix the Old Testament with the new you will lose them both). It seems to me that The Gospel of The Kingdom of God and The Gospel of Grace are being mixed in this message...???
Only problem I have about reading Matthew 6:12 as being relative to money is that would require a person to owe God money.
This interpretation of what Jesus meant by "debts" doesn't sit right with me.
Are we in debt to God for money?
Matthew 12:31
“Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.”
"All manner of sin"
Listen to no man beyond The Word of God "as it is written". When a man has too many words of his own in explanation of possible error just remember that man is capable of fault "Forgive Them" but The Word of God is Infallible. Without Possibility of Fault.
God is love and God covers sins, but not everyone has Him.
Proverbs 10:12 Hatred stirs up strife, But love covers all sins.
1 Pet 4:8 And above all things have fervent love for one another, for “love will cover a multitude of sins.”
Luke 7:47 Therefore I say to you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven, for she loved much. But to whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.”
I thought all sins were forgivable through true repentance except for blasmy of the holy Spirit Jesus she'd his blood on the cross for us because we were all supposed to go to hell ? Am I right or wrong just curious
Blasphemous against the holy ghost is a sin that can not be forgiven. Also, those who don't forgive others. Also, after this life, they can not get into heaven with unforgivness or not loving God, neighbors, and holding grudges , bitterness, envy, and strife
Only blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven. (Giving Satan credit for God’s work)
Matthew 6:14,15 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.