All House Of The Dragon Dragons Estimated Sizes (HOTD Size Comparison)
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- There are atleast 10 Dragons that were mentioned or seen in the first season of House Of The Dragon. Check out our estimated sizes., along with the 3 dragons seen in Game Of Thrones.
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The Pink Dread by far the most vicious and terrifying dragon so far.
It is. Because it’s one of the things that helped to create Aemond. The monster
Aemond should've claimed the pink dread instead of vhagar lol
*hits table*
…Final tribute…
🐖🐉
I'm still waiting for the moment when Aemond riding that thing in battle.
I hope for season 2 they get more budgets, it's weird to see Syrax didn't grown up and Vermax big body with baby faced.
it was so weird seeing him fly by with that baby head lol
I NOTICED THAT TOO WHILE THEY LEAVE FROM DRAGONSTONE, IT WAS SO FUNNY🤣
They didn't grow as much because they're locked up almost all the time. Vermax is just weirdly skinny overall. But I would have liked to see Syrax at least seem a little bigger, she almost looks like she shrunk in some scenes. I would definitely like for them to have better dragon CGI in general in s2 though. The movement in several scenes was quite fake looking.
Tbh I expect some visual changes to some of the dragons next season
Yeah, I hope they fix this next season, it was weird asf...
The Cannibal's size hasn't been confirmed in the books and since he hasn't been seen yet we can't really say if he's as big as people assume he is.
He's only rumored to be older than Balerion, there's always the chance that he's smaller than Balerion
Cannibal would have to be one hell of a massive dragon to be bigger than balerion. I dont doubt cannibal was massive but id say he's more vermithor size and that's still very very big but a bit smaller than vhagar and definently not balerion size.
@@josephayers7395 but it's really cool to see him bigger than balerion ,an unclaimed dragon who eat smaller dragons and bigger than balerion 👀
@@Hydra-og6jf then be Dissapointed in next Season 2 because no way the Showrunners will contradict themselves when they say VHAGAR is Currently the Oldest and Biggest Dragon Alive in ASOIAF World .
@@Hydra-og6jf watch this if you want evidence Behind The Scene : Age of the Dragons | (HBO)
@@mikered1974 bcuz nobody has seen cannibal
Not even in the books
So show runners if they would depict cannibal would keep it a surprise not just tell it before and take away all the fear/threat associated with Vhagar
Dreamfyre is way bigger than Syrax. If I remember well, he was the dragon of Rhaena Targaryen, the daughter of Aenys, which makes her about 50 years older than Meleys and Caraxes.
I believe Fire & Blood says that Vhagar, Vermithor, and Silwerwing are bigger than Dreamfyre, but only Vhagar is older (by a LOT)
@@filipnielsen1000 Yeah, sounds accurate. Technically, I think Quicksilver was born before Dreamfyre, but he died young
But she was housed in the Dragonpit since 74 AC while Meleys and Caraxes were able to roam on Dragonstone and Driftmark
Dreamfyre didn't look much bigger than Sunfyre though. I'd guess she's pretty similar in size to Seasmoke and end of season 6 Drogon. I believe Syrax is a bit smaller than what he said though (she also didn't really grow after the 10 year time skip). The age of the dragons doesn't matter as much apparently. The reason Syrax doesn't seem to have grown and lots of these supposedly much older dragons aren't necessarily much bigger than younger dragons is because they're locked up most of the time in the dragon pit. This stagnates their growth to some extent. Dany's dragons weren't locked up as much, which is why they grew so quickly despite being much younger than most of the dragons in HOTD.
@@shibernyan2009 Dreamfyre, unlike dragons such as Syrax, Sunfyre or Seasmoke, spent most of its life outside of the dragon pit, as he live long before its construction.
The Vfx artist confirmed that Vhagar is 150 meters long or 420+ feet, therefore if balerion is still a bit bigger he’s probably around 170-200 meters long
It’s actually 492 feet In length
That puts caraxes at 75 meters long if he’s roughly half Vhagars size
Bruh godzilla is only 50 meters tall. These dragons are wilding
@@1estel1ch.42 depends on which film. Legendary’s Godzilla is 120m tall
@@onapersonalnote7045 and around 300M long from snout to tail
Meleys and Caraxes seem approx the same size in the show, he's long and she's massive, both big in their own way
Edit: when you compare them to their riders and as they stand near humans Meleys is bigger indeed.
Similar sizes, but Meleys is a little bigger
@@alphagamer9505 exactly
I believe they the same size but caraxes looks smaller because he's more slender and snake like bu length wise they look the same
Is meleys called as pink dread?
@@veda7279 call red queen
The only problems I have with this list is dreamfyre, who was older than vermithor and definitely not close to syrax in size, and the cannibal who can be easily disproven to be the biggest dragon
This.
She's the second oldest dragon alive at this point. She hatched in 29-30AC during the reign of Aegon the Conqueror making her even older than Vermithor and Silverwing, who were born from 30 AC to 35 AC.
Only Vhagar is older. Dreamfyre is supposed to have a more slender build, yes, but she's still *at least* 95 years old at this point. Almost double the age of Caraxes or Meleys.
Dreamfrye was kept in the pit it stunted her growth as said in the book
@@tresjolieme81 yeah but syrax was a captivity dragon as well, and a captivity dragon 70+ years her age shoudk be much bigger
@@charlieswanney8610 yea i see what you mean. Dreamfrye was the one i was excited to see but unfortunately i dont see how she will get air time in this period with the wars. They would have to take the prequel back to Rhaena Targaryen.
They say in the books that the dragons who were raised or reside I. The pit are notably smaller. Vermithor resides in the island and can still roam around and hunt. Syrax was kept close and over fed, she never had to hunt
Would have been nice if you put a human next to them to get a scale of the actual size
PS: The Cannibal is stated to be the oldest and largest of the wild dragons, but its never stated that he is remotely the largest of the dragons. Vhagar is stated to be the largest living dragon and Vermithor the 2nd, which means that the Cannibal is smaller than both.
its written as a history book so everything said is someones point of view or opinion. nobody has seen the cannibal in the books just know he exists on dragon stone. so couldnt say his size and the small folk say he was older than balerion
People have to take in the fact that even if a dragon is older than other doesn’t mean it will be bigger because many of the dragons were held in the dragon pit which stunt their growth
The Cannibal *gets honorary mention *
Other Dragons : Let’s Dance to keep it hungry !
You did us dirty by not showing the entire chart from a bird eye view in the end.
Nice comparison, Most of these were pretty accurate except for DREAMFYRE, she is one of the second gen targeryn dragons along side Vermithor and Silverwing and she is the mother of caraxes and meleys, she can't be as small as shown here in the video, she is 100 and will be almost as big as Vermithor.
she was housed in the dragonpit for years, stunting her growth but still should be quite large
Dreamfyre is the mother to most of adult the dragons. She is known to have laid two cluthes of eggs by 43 AC and another clutch in 50 AC.
Hatchlings from the last clutch hatched in 51 AC (most likely Meleys and Sheepstealer). Sheepstealer is stated to have been born in the early years of king Jaehaerys I's reign, so it would make sense that one of these hatchlings was him and that he was never claimed so become wild.
An egg was placed in Aemon Targaryen's cradle in 55 AC. This hatchling was most likely baby Caraxes hatched from one of Dreamfyre's eggs.
Three of Dreamfyre's eggs are stolen in 54 AC (pretty safe to assume that these eggs are the same ones that hatched in Drogon, Viserion and Rhaegal).
The eggs that is stolen by prince Daemon, after which he is forced to return it, is the one chosen for the short lived prince baelon by his older sister, rhaenyra. It can be safe to assume that rhaenyra used this same egg to place in her next brothers cradle (Aegon II) seem as this happend before the whole greens/blacks split. Aegon's egg hatched into the dragon Sunfyre.
Syrax (looks like sunfyre) and Seasmoke (looks like Meleys) are also likely hatched from Dreamfyre's eggs seem as neither Silverwing nor Meleys ever laid any. This is back up by the fact that the maesters and dragon keepers are still using the aging Dreamfyre's eggs until Syrax started to lay. If Meleys (who was a few decades younger than Dreamfyre) was laying at that time then it would make sense for her eggs to be the main ones used, as she is younger and therefore the eggs would have had a greater chance of hatching (this is true to both reptiles and birds so it would make sense to be true to dragons) than Dreamfyre's.
Tessarion, Vermax, Arrax, Tyraxes, Stormcloud, Shrykos, Morghul, Moondancer and Morning were all hatched from Syrax's eggs - I am almost 100% certain on that. Syrax is known to have laid multiple cluthes in the reign of Viserys I. These eggs were laid both at king's landing and dragonstone, so both the blacks and greens would end up having access to hatching some before the dance of the dragons. Dreamfyre isnt stated as laying any eggs during this period, so its likely she passed the age of being able to do so.
Dreamfyre's first 'wave' of kids (Meleys, Sheepstealer and Caraxes) were most likely fathered by Vermithor (Balerion was probably too old to reproduce by the 50s AC). Caraxes then most likely fathered the second 'wave' of Dreamfyre's kids (Seasmoke, Syrax, Sunfyre) in the 90s AC - 100s AC. Vermithor probably didnt father the second 'wave' as he had grown attached to Silverwing during the long reign of Jaehaerys I, so probably wasnt interested in other female dragons, i.e. Dreamfyre. Caraxes was therefore most likely the father as Sheepstealer was wild (because he hadnt been claimed as a hatchling) so wouldnt have gone near Dreamfyre as she would have always been near people. Caraxes is a fierce dragon so it would make sense for him to take the place of the dominant breeding male.
Syrax's offspring are most likely fathered by Seasmoke (backed up by the fact that the young dragons have his shape or colours). Syrax and Seasmoke were together during the marriage of Laenor and Rhaenyra so it would make sense for those two to become a breeding pair.
Thought I'd comment this as a lot of people are asking who is the child of who :)
Just asking how is dreamfyre the mother of caraxes and meleys they not the same breed.
@@daniel25ss no idea, there's no proof of that
@@daniel25ss They're both red and spiky, but Caraxes was born deformed.
I expected to see a whole picture zoomed out at the end
Same! really wanted to see that!
This was the best and most complete comparison I have seen for the shows so I thank you. 🙏🏾
Drogon being as big as he was at the age of like 8 is crazy, he truly is the Black Dread reborn
Just about the Cannibal, Balerion has always been called as the biggest dragon ever
Cause he was the dragon of the king lol , he was always seen by people while Cannibal was likely a rare thing to see , knowing that he is likely older at this point than Balerion ever was he could be bigger, also the fact that Cannibal survived even after the dance lowkey confirms that he had to be huge to not get killed by Balerion and the other big dragons, I really doubt that a small or even middle sized wild dragon could survive all that while also eating his own kind, that just seems unlikely
@@davidkosiba624 No, the books very clearly state that Balerion is the largest, then Vhagar and the Vermithor. The Cannibal survives the dance because he wasnt invovled at all. Surviving the dance doesnt say anything about his size. Balerion didnt kill Sheepsteeler or Grey Ghost either. A giant dragon is unlikely to survive on eating eggs and hatchlings. He'd have to be eating hundreds of dragon eggs to survive off that
This is defeintely incorrect about the Cannibal. He should be smaller than Vermithor but bigger than Sheepsteeler so he's probably somewhere in the 80-90 yr old range.
@@davidkosiba624 Literally none of what you said proved Cannibal is bigger than Balerion, which is he is not. The author literally confirmed Balerion is the biggest dragon in the books, Cannibal was only said to be the biggest of the "wild dragons". Balerion's size is addressed as a concencus whilst Cannibal as a subjective/specific/explicity category, Cannibal's size has a parameter, Balerion's does not.
The pink dread got me😂😂🤣
From the 2nd episode to the 10th episode of House of the dragon, there is a difference of atleast 15 years but Syrax has not grown any bigger. She was still of the same size in episode 10 as she was in episode 2 when Rhaenyra went to Dragonstone to claim an egg from Daemon.
Yea, she was kept in the Dragonpit abd as a courtdragon most her life causing her not to grow much. The same way goldfish don't grow much in small tanks. A symptome that appears in many of the younger/newer dragons kept in the pit.
Pretty sure Syrax’s size can be attributed to budget
@@JustAShyGhost Or they simply didn't increase her size for whatever reason. You don't have to make excuses. Caraxes hasn't grown either yet he's been out of the Dragon Pit for at least 18 years of the 20 year timeskip (4 years in Stepstones, at least 8 in Pentos, 6 on Dragonstone)
@@agrimmeon9308 Its in the books...... she barely grew in the books.....
@@JustAShyGhost @Meli "At seven, she became a dragonrider, taking to the sky on the young dragon she named Syrax, after a goddess of old Valyria."
25 years later
" And ours are larger and stronger, but for Vhagar. Dragons thrive best here on Dragonstone"
Rhaenyra has been residing on Dragonstone for 16 years
"Against that, Prince Daemon had Caraxes and Princess Rhaenyra, Syrax, both huge and formidable beasts."
After Rhaenyra takes Kings Landing
"A stable in the outer ward had been emptied of horses and given over for her use ...Syrax had long grown accustomed to chains; exceedingly well-fed, she had not hunted for years."
Where does it say "she barely grew" . That's an assumption on your part
I love your dedication
I know we are getting SNOW and 10,000 ships.. but I also want another prequel about Aegon the conqueror so we can see Balerion the dread in live action instead of all the talk about him.
An Aegon show with Henry Cavil would go so hard
A lot of incorrect info here. Vermithor is bronze, thus his name "the bronze fury". Vhagar was encroaching Balerion in size and age so Balerion could only have been a bit bigger. Lastly, the Cannibal was described as being smaller than the likes of Vermithor and Vhagar, though possibly older.
The sfx producer said the size estimate she was given for Vhagar is 150 meters(around 490 something feet) and in the books Vhagar is described as being slightly over half the size of Balerion, later this is contradicted when they say Vhagar was 2/3rd’s the size of Balerion tho.
Caraxes is maybe half Vhagar’s size and Vermithor is between the two in size. (Probably like 300 feet).
Edit: The cannibal is a wild card as even Caraxes and Vermithor both avoided him but he’s definitely oh as big as Balerion who they say had such a massive wingspan he blacked out the sun in the riverlands when he flew overhead.
Also more support for Vhagar’s size is when we see that big mf at Storm’s End and is literally too big to fit inside the castle’s courtyard which is at least 200 feet just looking at it.
This keeps popping up, but Vhagar hasn't been shown to be anywhere near that big. 150 might be her wingspan, but her body isn't that big.
When they eventually do a gone conquest I better be blown away by the size of Balarion
Nah! At the time of conquest Balerion size would be close to vhagar at this point maybe smaller.
As Balerion also lives 100 more years and grow till his death.
Balerion would actually be smaller than current vhagar
@@Noone91875 Balerion was bigger than Vhagar during the conquest as well, Vhagar was only said to be approaching his size during the conquest in the dance of dragons, she was never truly as big as Conquest Balerion in the dance of dragons. That was not confirmed, just a relative comparison.
On the one hand, it has always been said that Balerion was the largest of the known dragons, but on the other hand The Cannibal was a wild dragon, so not being in captivity, he could have grown bigger.
As for the size estimates for Balerion and the other non-series dragons, I think they're pretty accurate (I'd like to know how you got there anyway), but I think Balerion should be a bit bigger.
In other UA-cam videos (4:45 in this video ua-cam.com/video/lcyN_tH25R4/v-deo.html) it is estimated that Drogon's skull is 7' long, and since the maximum jaw opening of most Westerosi dragons is equal to the length of their skull, this is also 7'. Balerion was said to fit a mammoth in his jaw, and since Game of Thrones mammoths were 19 feet tall (2:50 of the video mentioned above) this should be the minimum size of their skull, so Balerion should be at least 2.71 times as big as Drogon (19/7=2.71).
Doing some simple calculations, if Drogon is 120-130 feet long and his skull is 7', Balerion would have to be between 326 and 353 feet long to be 2.71 times Drogon's size.
As always, great video!
My theory on the Cannibal is that he’s either a bit bigger or about the same size as Vhagar, but not nearly as big as Balerion.
Lol I actually searched hotd dragon size and got this video which was uploaded 6 minutes ago in top search 😂😂
Amazing art and video!! Thank you
Great comparison!
WTH is Cannibal doing up there ahead of Balerion? The Cannibal isn't even as big as Vermithor, let alone near Balerion who has been the only confirmed biggest dragon in the books (both when it comes to wild and/or raised in captivity).
Cannibal was a wild dragon but was not the same size as the black dred
Thanks a lot for including the Cannibal
Bloodworm kinda beautiful to me.
The largest dragons were Balerion, then Vhagar, then Vermithor. The Cannibal was just the largest of the wild dragons and is not compared with the three largest in terms of size.
Here’s a list of quotes, one by the man himself;
The Cannibal’s description;
“The largest and oldest of the wild dragons was the Cannibal, so named because he had been known to feed on the carcasses of dead dragons, and descend upon the hatcheries of Dragonstone to gorge himself on newborn hatchlings and eggs. Coal black, with baleful green eyes, the Cannibal had made his lair on Dragonstone even before the coming of the Targaryens, some smallfolk claimed. (Grand Maester Munkun and Septon Eustace both found this story most unlikely, as do I.)“
- Fire & Blood; ‘the Dying of the Dragons: the Red Dragon and the Gold’… by Arch Maester Gyldayn
Another;
“Then there were three wild dragons that might be tamed if riders could be found: the Cannibal, said by the smallfolk to have lurked on Dragonstone even before the Targaryens came (though Munkun and Barth are dubious of this claim);”
- The World of Ice & Fire; ‘the Targaryen Kings: Aegon II’…. by Maester Yandel
On the largest dragons;
“He (King Jaehaerys I) was a dragonrider as well, riding upon Vermithor-a great beast of bronze and tan who was the largest of the living dragons after Balerion and Vhagar.”
- The World of Ice & Fire; ‘the Targaryen Kings: Jaehaerys I’…. by Maester Yandel
Another;
“In battle (Hugh Hammer) rode Vermithor, once the mount of the Old King himself (Jaehaerys); of all the dragons in Westeros, only Vhagar was older or larger.”
-‘Fire & Blood: Rhaenyra Triumphant’…
by Arch Maester Gyldayn.
Balerion;
“Of the five dragons who had flown with Aenar (Targaryen) the Exile from Valyria, only one survived to Aegon’s day: the great beast called Balerion, the Black Dread.”
- Fire & Blood; ‘Aegon’s Conquest’… by Arch Maester Gyldayn
Balerion’s age;
“Less than a year later (94ac), Balerion was gone. “The last living creature in all the world who saw Valyria in its glory,” wrote Septon Barth.”
- Fire & Blood; ‘the Long Reign - Jaehaerys and Alysanne: Policy, Progeny, and Pain’… by Arch Maester Gyldayn
A conversation with GRRM;
DJ:
“I do have one more question for you. In this book we have many, many dragons and many, many Valyrian steel swords. If you could ride one dragon and wield one sword, which would it be?”
GRRM:
“If I could ride on one dragon I might as well go with the biggest, which would be Balerion the Black Dread. He’s the megadragon in this early book. He’s the only one who remembers Valyria, up to a certain point, because he was brought over from Valyria a little before the Doom of Valyria. He’s the biggest and meanest of the dragons that exists.
If I could wield only one sword, I don’t think it would be any of the Targaryen swords, it would be Dawn…”
- Fire & Blood; ‘a conversation between George R.R. Martin and Dan Jones’
Cannibal preyed on small opponents, there's absolutely nothing to indicate he's bigger than Balerion or even the same size.
George R. R. Martin literally stated that Balerion is bigger than ALL the dragons (not sure why that's up to debate when the author himself), Cannibal was only the biggest of the WILD dragons which none of them were anywhere near the size of the top 2.
I wonder how big Dany's dragons would have become. They were essentially still children
can't believe you didn't show them all again at the same time (for reference) at the end
The Pink Dread is the most mighty !!! All hail the Swine !
The drawings are so accurate. Good work 👍.
The artist is @siosin, it's not credited anywhere
New favourite HOTD video because of The Cannibal and the art style!
If we see Cannibal in S2, I know the internet will go nuts!
SioSin has one of the top artworks for hotd dragons 💯‼️
Dreamfyre's size is cap.
She's the second oldest dragon alive at this point. She hatched in 29-30AC during the reign of Aegon the Conqueror making her even older than Vermithor and Silverwing, who were born from 30 AC to 35 AC.
Only Vhagar is older. Dreamfyre is supposed to have a more slender build, yes, but she's still *at least* 95 years old at this point. Almost double the age of Caraxes or Meleys.
Dragons kept in the pit stunts their growth. I read it in Fire and Blood.
Dreamfyre was actually kept in the Dragon Pit for half her life though (She lived nearly 50 years free and nearly 50 years captive) so if her residence was small enough it could've stunted her growth. Though I think this chart is inaccurate anyways because she was farther up and farther back on the cliffs.
@@agrimmeon9308 her previous rider the black Queen, moved often tho so even then Dreamfyre was caged a lot, really only during Rhaena’s youth was Dreamfyre very active
I’d love to see a flashback scene with Balerion and Aegon the Conqueror
the inclusion of the pink dread has earned you my subscription.
Whenever they spoke of Balerion, they said he was more than a 100 miles long. That means he was more than 500,000 feet in length.
Yeah, i think you should stop smoking crack
@@mindq4328 lmfao
The mighty pink dread 😂
You need to share this to the Facebook groups.
Love the siosin art
There’s no way the Cannibal is anywhere near as old and as big as Balerion
Caraxes looked a lot bigger than Meleys in my opinion
He may be longer due to his neck but definitely not bigger, she's more massive
He is longer not bigger
He is a long boi
For real
@@FreezErmac519 Nah, Meleys is small, look at Meleys leave Dragonstone with Arrax and Vermax, they even look about the same size, plus, this video is showing length, so Caraxes should be ahead of Meleys. Meleys looks smaller than Drogon tbh
"Stop that evil practice....", that was hilarious 😂🤓.
Vhagar is the largest dragon alive by the time of the dance of the dragons, Cannibal is smaller than her and obviously smaller than Balerion and probably smaller than Meraxes. The confusion comes because he is the biggest of the WILD dragons, but not the biggest of ALL dragons.
😁Cannibal is 100% bigger than "teen" Vhagar.
Hopefully season 2 we get to see more of the other dragons. Balerion will always be my favorite
Nope, sorry.
No dragons in Season 2...of House of the Dragon!
@@anypercentdeathless Events called Dance of the Dragons.
Showrunners: No dragons xd!
Can't wait to see the Cannibal in the next season!
I think you are not going to see her..
@@arshadshaik822 I think we will get at least 2 scenes with him, not necessarily in season 2. Silver Denis incident and Sea Snakes funeral
@@arshadshaik822 I believe the Cannibal is a male.
@@arshadshaik822 that's the dragon Daemon was singing to
@@jeffcordova9633 it was vermithor confirm by show creators
Wait where does moondancer stand in the list? Did I miss this info??
Would have been nice if u zoomed out to see all of them in a bigger picture at the end, but still nicely done, thank u~
10s of dragons .. but if you think clearly
Pink dread is the one that killed them all 😂
Pink dread lol
Can’t wait to see balerion. Also more hype to see cannibal
Why are people so hype to see a dragon that has 0 impact on the story. It literally does nothing 💀
@@samdetroper9118 cause it’s cool to see anyway lol
@@grantgrant8554 the story of Cannibal being older than Balerion is just a folkstory by smallfolks thats how its written in the Books and the showrunners has confirm that " Vhagar is the oldest & largest dragon alive in asoaif world and the largest dragon ever see in Game of Thrones" as per say by the showrunners here the clips ' behind the scene : age of the dragons | (HBO)
The Pink Dread Eats 30 Sunfyre For Breakfast, 17 Caraxes For Lunch, 12 Vhagar For Snacks And 6 Balerion For Dinner💀
The cannibal is never stated to be that large
Dreamfyre is the second oldest of the Targaryen dragons currently alive she is waayyy too small here, she should be slightly larger than meleys/caraxes at LEAST
Literally everything is speculation. Lay down the books, watch the show. Two different tellings.
@@Gnossiene369 and I’m speculating why I think she should be bigger
@@sosa2mars dreamfyre was kept in the dragon pit for half her life and when dragons are in small spaces it stunts their growth thats why shes well small, but if she was never in the dragon pit and was given enough food and space she would have grown but she was kept in the dragon pit half her life
If you want to know the actual sizes, you should refer to the book. In some parts of the series, the size of the dragons is not correct. For example, Daenerys' dragons are much smaller than other dragons (except Drogo) because they are 7 or 8 years old. But a dragon like Karaxis is 80 years old. But in the series, Drogo and Karaxis are almost equal. Or, for example, Daenerys's two other dragons, who are 8 years old, are bigger than Daenerys's dragon, which is over 30 years old.
Dude Meters please
Cannibal size is a rumor is far more likely is around Vermithor size.
Also most important Dreamfyre isn't that small, she smaller than Vermithor, but bigger than Meleys, she a 100 year old dragon in the series, 2 oldest dragon
She should be near Meleys size she was in the Dragonpit for at least 47 years before being claimed inhibiting her growth
This is probably right. There is allot of misinformation on Cannibal and even misinformation from GRR Martin since it seems he is saying one thing then another. Think if we ever see the dragon it might be Vermithor's size.
@@iangallagher5448 she isn't, she around Silverwing size who is 90 years I think, both of them being smaller than Vermithor
@@alphagamer9505 The Dragonpit inhibits a dragons growth she’s been in their for over 40 years. While Silverwing was consistently ridden and lived in the wild caves of Dragonstone
@@iangallagher5448 that still does not change the fact she is slightly smaller than silverwing and literally before she roamed nearly free for decades also by your same logic vermithor & silverwing should be massively stunted in growth due to captivity and being riderless for 3 decades…yes captivity stunts growth but not like that even in the book 60 years before the dance at fair isle it was said dreamfyre was getting larger and larger with concerns growing from how much she was eating by that point she was already slightly larger than quicksilver…the canonical dragon size currently for targs no wild ones included is vhagar, vermithor, silverwing, dreamfyre, meleys/caraxes(both are half the size of vhagar pretty much identical in size), syrax, quicksilver(he was 1/4 size of balerion)…you forget as well dreamfyre roamed pretty much free for 4 decades before captivity dreamfyre is born 32AC and he rider rhaena died 73 AC and shortly after her captivity began
How did the dragon in this series not grow in size after so many years but in GOT they grew so large very quickly😂😂
2:49 Vermithor's color is bronze brown and he is called "The Bronze Fury"
Yes! He also is supposed to be incredibly tanky with spines like Melys! What the hell?!
Technically Dreamfyre was bigger then that she is supposed to be bigger the caraxes or meleys
Ikr, yes she was locked up in the Dragon Pitt most of her life but she was older than Vermithor ffs
@@maddawg9636 she wasn't locked up most of her life. She was born way before the pit was created
@@samdetroper9118 she also spent much of her life flying around Westeros when she was bonded with her first rider Rhaena
@@samdetroper9118 She spent a good chunk of her life in it, you get my point
@@sosa2mars Rhaena was held captive by Maegor similar to how rhaenys was held captive so she could t use her dragon and then after Rhaena was moved from castle to castle Dreamfyre was really only ridden during her Rhaena’s teens so mostly Dreamfyre has been kenneled up.
vermithor es sin duda, uno de los mejores dragones del libro (Claro en mi opinión personal) ah, algo mas, según el libro de canción de hielo y fuego (Fuego y sangre, el cual estoy leyendo) vermithor es de color bronce como lo especifica el libro. pero aun así, buen vídeo👍
Love it now please do a comparison of HOTD and LOTR and the hobbit dragon with this in it 😁😁
My goodness Dreamfyre is sooo beautiful..
But am I the only one who thinks Dany's dragon kinda huge for their age? All of them barely 10 years old when the show ended.
One of the official vfx people said Vhagar was 150m, or almost 500ft "long". I'm thinking she might have meant wingspan.
For sure it's wingspan, there no way vhagar is 150m in length, I say she half of that 70m-80m in lenght
@@alphagamer9505 That would be congruent with max wingspan length as well, being around double the nose to tail tip length.
@@alphagamer9505 around 75 meters from head to tail makes sense, otherwise she'd be 2/5 longer than the height of Legendary Godzilla, and she doesn't even look close to that
This. There's no way Vhagar be almost 500ft long because she looks shorter and smaller in comparison to Smaug
@@alphagamer9505 well she’s like 2-2.5 times the size of caraxes who is roughly the same size as drogon making her 90-100+ meters long, however i could be wrong
The Cannibal isnt the biggest dragon... it's the biggest of the WILD Dragons and smaller than Balerion which is known to be the biggest dragon to ever live in Westeros. Cannibal was even smaller than Vhagar, as she is named the largest dragon of her age in the Dance. Cannibal was probably of the same size as Vermithor or slightly less than Vhagar. He remained unclaimed.
Not only did he remain unclaimed there was never a chance of anyone claiming him since he/she hated humans and dragons alike, and was never raised with humans around. There is allot of mix information from GRR Martin over the few years on Cannibals size. When first heard Cannibal was the biggest dragon period alive and its shadow would encompass a whole city. Possibly the biggest dragon ever. Now he is back tracking it. Really doesn't matter since Cannibal is in his/her own world and not really part of the war.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 I feel like they should just make it the biggest dragon (including Vhagar) to shut annoying cannibal stans up. Not like it matters since it does literally nothing in the dance. 0 significance
It was said that dragons never stop growing outside a dragonpit. Since Cannibal is possibly older than all the "tame" dragons, and it's free in the wild to grow without limit, it would be logical to assume it is gigantic. Though how big is up for debate.
Cannibals size is unconfirmed but it’s said he’s older than balerion so it is only understandable to assume he might be larger too , I mean you have to be pretty fucking large for the Targaryens to not mess with you even when you actively hunt their dragons and let him live on dragonstone
I don't think anyone would live to tell the tale if they had gotten close enough to get a good size estimate on the cannibal. GRR probably didn't elaborate on the Cannibals size because nobody was stupid enough to attempt to get close enough to observe his size.
what are the sources of these illustrations?
Are you authorized by the illustrator to use the drawings?
Dreamfyre is small for a dragon her age despite being in the same generation as Vermithor and Silverwing. Maybe it's due to her spend too much time nesting in the Dragonpit
Yeah according to the Wiki of ASOIAF, Dreamfyre has been in the dragonpit since 73 AC so she hasn't really grown since then
Thank you🤗 clear my confusion
Is anyone else constantly annoyed how dragons take decades to get big and Danny's grew in like 5 years to be the size of century old dragons? idk maybe its just me
The Scaling was great love this vid and This guys artwork is so good, only thing I’d say is that Caraxes is slightly bigger then Meleys cause In the final episode u can see that Caraxes had actually grown bigger I mean the guys skull was huge next to Daemon. And another small thing is that Rhaegal was barely bigger than Viserion because Vis had died which stopped his growth.
Dreamfyre is probably the third largest dragon alive, she's the second oldest dragon alive
Dude, older does not always mean bigger. Plus, she was kept in the dragon pit longer than any other dragon.
@@Al-ji4gd Dreamfyre was 100 years old, if not older at the time of her death, her being smaller than Drogon at age 8 makes 0 sense
@@levivanderveen4671 I didn't say anything about drogon.
@@Al-ji4gd you didnt but that was what I wrote my original comment in reference to- the point still stands
Can you make a version of this with modern measurements instead of the medieval ones? Thank you
Where are you getting these numbers my friend
Showrunners have said Vhagar is almost 500 feet long. I also want to add that because of budget Caraxes and Syrax didn’t grow in later episodes.
I don't understand how Dany's dragon grew so fast compared to the other dragons in HOTD that are way older. Did they drink any growth spurt potion?
Some of the older dragons were kept inside the dragonpit, maybe that's the reason why drogon is bigger than the others because he's free outside. We can also observe this when both rhaegal and viserion were kept in the pit of the great pyramid, drogon grew bigger than them. Idk, i'm not sure abt this
@@jaecodm2161 I actually Googled and there is an article saying that Dany's 3 dragons grew faster than those dragons in HOTD because Dany's dragons were born out of magic. So at 9 years of age they are as big as those that are 40-60 years of age dragons in HOTD.
@@halo-halo9244 cap
You forgot Meraxes. Last of Aegon's three dragons.
Bigger than Vhagar and smaller than Balerion
lol u gotta be petty and add the pink dread. thats messed up. thanks for adding that humor 😆
Vermax seems to be as big as Syrax in the 10th episode. The Cannibal is the biggest WILD dragon but not bigger than Vhagar.
Balerion was bigger than Vhagar back in the aegon days, but in the moment of hotd, Vhagar was said to be as big as balerion since dragons always keep growing and she lived longer
Balerion lived longer, actually. He was more than 220 years old when he died, and Vhagar lived to 181 years. Vhagar during the Dance of Dragons was almost the size of Balerion.
That's not contextual. Vhagar was said to be as big as Balerion "DURING THE CONQUEST" in HOTD and not afetr. Balerion became much bigger than Vhagar afterwads considering he grew to be older than her and died of old age. Vhagar would probably be 2/3rd of the Balerion's size if she kept growing (which she did not). Balerion was still bigger when he died.
The fact that Daenerys's dragons were only 8 years old back then imagine them growing up to 100 years old
Wonderful Video.
Dreamfyre is almost 100 years old by the latest episode. She should be huge. In comparison: Caraxes is about 70 years old. Daenerys dragons are maybe 7 years old. There is no way she's smaller than Rhaegal when dragons canonically don't stop growing even though Danys dragons grew fast
Also Caraxes is said to be bigger than Meleys both in the books and the show
Dreamfyre didn't grow very large because she was kept in the Dragon Pit. However, I do agree that she should still be larger than what the show's portraying. She was at least large enough to be considered a huge asset to the Greens during war, but Helaena was too mentally broken to ride her.
where do they say Caraxes is bigger than Meleys in the show?
@@syntheovaldy5173 at the beginning of the show. It's said Daemon rides the biggest dragon (only counting claimed dragons of course)
@@Max-oi4it can you specifically point the scene?
@@syntheovaldy5173 it's the scene where mysaria talkes with Daemon about how the king can't replace him in EP1
Imagine syrax dies in season 2 and rhanerya bond with canibal
Cannibal would eat her at first site.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 just imagine dude 😎
You forgot Sunfyre but great video.
This would be perfect with a human for reference at the side of every dragon, you should almost re-upload it with that
Sunfyre killed moondancer and a wild dragon on the Dragon Stone (Ghost). He is a formidable one too.
According to the writer itself, aside from Balerion the Black Dread (coz he's dead) Vhagar and Caraxes is the most formidable dragons.
@@pracajohndrahcird.9985 Meleys, Vermithor, and Seasmoke would like to have a word with you
@@iangallagher5448 you better watch the interview about who's the formidable dragons in the HOTD
@@pracajohndrahcird.9985 Link it then bc that doesn't sound believable but could be wrong
@@samdetroper9118 I’ve also seen the interview, this guys correct. George said vhagar and caraxes is by far the most viscuous and formidable. (Not saying the others aren’t formidable aswell but they dont come close their much calmer dragons.)
Vermithor is called the Bronze Fury btw
The Pink Dread literally scared the hell out of me.. 🥺😰
did you ask Siosin for permission to use her arts?
I have yet to see anything suggest Cannibal is the size of Balerion, they've gotta be closer to Melys's size otherwise it'd be way more relevant, and Belarion has been stated multiple times to be the largest dragon known to Westeros historians.
Vhaghar has been confirmed to be 150 m long in behind the scenes by the VfX artist
Did you credit/ask the artist to use their art for this?
could you also use the metric system on your next videos please?
No Dragon is as Majestic and Charming Like Drogon😭(he is the best)