@@Jack-eg8wg Did you miss the big red text in the thumbnail? Did you not watch the video? Do you not detect the sarcasm in my comment? That's a real trifecta there...
I have a theory that Half Life universe is based using a blueprint of the Lovecraftian universe, that lead writer Marc Laidlaw used to create a story for the game. Marc is famous for creating other similar fiction like those books showcased in the HL1 locker, 37-th Mandala and Orchid Eater. Why am i thinking this, well, G Man is in my oppinion based, or at least inspired by the cosmic entity from the Lovecraftian stories called Nyarlathotep one of the outer gods and antagonists in the Cthulhu Mythos. You can read about this character in the H.P. Lovecraft wiki, its backstory is basically a perfect match with that of a G-Man. Yithians are similar to Vorts, and there are many other examples of HL and Lovecraft universe mirroring each other. But the most striking resemblance is the G-Man and Nyarlathotep. Look it up.
In my opinion, G-Man is a representation of the writers, and his employers are Valve. When you take that into consideration, a lot of the things he says make a lot more sense.
I always saw the G-man as Gabe N and his employers represents us the Buying public. Basically the G-man Directs Gordon to do things that will keep his employer happy. were as Gabe N directs valve developers to keep us happy.
nice video, 1 piece of evidence i didnt see you bring up though was at the end of hl1 when youre on the tram with gman, he offers freeman to go into stasis or die, gman clearly wouldnt kill his past self as itd kill him to, and if he was freeman he wouldve not given the option and forced him into stasis (sorry if i got some stuff wrong i havent played hl1 in a good while)
Probably the biggest evidence against the idea of them being the same person that I can think of is that the G-Man often comes off as antagonistic, if not quite hostile. He directs others to follow along a certain path, but he does so in a way that is beneficial moreso for his own best interests rather than theirs. He barely even maintains the illusion of benevolence, appearing only just friendly enough for others to cooperate with him but while also maintaining a position of dominance and a sense of apathy towards others. He cares about things getting done and puts those capable of doing these things in position to do so, but he doesn't care about the people themselves and has very limited patience when they don't cooperate. This often leaves others feeling very negatively towards him after the fact, with him screwing over Eli in particular repeatedly to the point the poor guy hates his guts. Gordon is antithetical to this. While we don't get to see his personality directly as his actions are the players and in the first game we could even make him into a murderous psychopath if we so desire, his canonical personality appears to be a much more kind and selfless one. He rescued scientists at Black Mesa, freed the Vortigaunts from captivity, and has continued to fight for freedom where he can along the way helping others as he goes. Gordon actively puts his own neck on the line for the sake of others who can't defend themselves and doesn't ask for anything in return, only taking that which is offered to him in thanks. The path he walks isn't strictly for his own benefit, but for the benefit of others. This has given him a messianic reputation; the name "Freeman" is regarded highly and he finds himself often respected by friends and strangers alike. To suggest that Gordon eventually goes on to become the G-Man is to suggest that Gordon eventually goes on to throw away everything and everyone he once fought for, all for personal gain. It's not just an unsatisfying conclusion to Gordon's story, it's the ultimate bad ending in which the hero who sacrificed so much for the sake of others obtains ultimate power and then proceeds to use it against those he once fought so hard for. This could be satisfying if the story direction was for Gordon to reject this version of himself and ultimately defeat him, but this would also be a cringeworthy cliche that would be distinctly unlike Valve's usual writing direction. I find it much more likely that the similarities between the two characters exist to thematically put them at odds against each other, rather than to tie them together as the same person. They are metaphorically two sides of the same coin; A selfless hero who prevails against all odds against him for the sake of others on one side, and a selfish bureaucrat with ultimate power who directs things towards his own benefit for the sake of some unknown "employers" on the other. Not so different at a surface level, and yet entirely different at the fundamental level.
While i dont believe the Gman is Freeman, i do think the argument can be made that the jacket in Freemans locker in hl2 points as evidence since it resembled the color of Gmans suit jacket
Quick thing, I am liking the video and will still watch from the point I have paused you bringing up HL;OF and HL;BS as a source to fight on its own is a bad choice only due to the fact that apparently whenever Valve has made/makes a Half Life game they make it without keeping those two games in mind.. I mean you can use said points as helping points to boost any theory/ debunking but you cant utilise this as its own major point and seeing how the HL;OF point seems to be announced on its own I will say you have me with a few less points then to those who dont actually know about the two side games canonicity.. Also believe me, I would love to have HL;BS as Canon but seeing how we dont see any of those characters return as of yet its hard to say for certain whether its canon (also yes, I said I would love to see HL;BS as Canon without mention HL;OF.. Although HL;OF had great gameplay its story doesnt feel as connected compared to HL;BS does even with a few characters not returning and also seeming like they dont at all exist.. With a slightly well rewritten character cast throughout the overall game, I think the story would work beyond like as example instead of Rosenberg you do Kleiner or Eli.. I am rambling now but you know.. XD)
So I kept watching and so I must say, I agree and disagree.. I dont know how else to really feel when it comes to this since I feel most of the points with agreement but its definitely one of those things where I just cant help but to feel off about it like the things that line up.. I saw a post from an ex-Valve writter through a youtube video talking and explaining it and supposedly said post was the "rough idea for Half-Life 2: Episode 3", the post/story was called Epistle 3.. Now even here its not to say anything can be classed as canon due to several reasons, first the ex-dev no longer working for valve hence the ex-dev, and second would go to Half-Life Alyx.. To say the very least, the ending of Epistle 3 did feel very strange and I wouldnt be surprised if that much telerporting would warp someone like Gordon Freeman into the Gman, and perhaps the Gman was keeping Gordon in stasis maybe to prevent this?. But then again, even though Gordon FreeMAN and the GMAN have a lot in common with their names, the GMAN might not even be his name.. Fun fact, the Gman is an actual term used apparently by americans and its short for Government-man or essiantially a Government Agent which would imply that he works for the Government, then again Gordon Freeman technically works for the Government since Black Mesa is very connected (not owned) with the Government which could be another point that can be made.. This topic is such a rabbit hole because I feel like you can debunk this theory but then also debunk the debunk of this theory.. XD
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Thanks for watching!
G-Man...."G"ordan Free"Man"...Enough said.
Enough said.
Its literally a general term for government man. His name is not G Man. Nobody knows his name. This video is a braindead take
@@Jack-eg8wg Did you miss the big red text in the thumbnail? Did you not watch the video? Do you not detect the sarcasm in my comment?
That's a real trifecta there...
@@LayedBackGamersdon’t let it get to you
@@LayedBackGamers enough said
Number 15 g-man is freeman theory debucked
This guy talks like chills
G-Man obviously isn't a future Gordon, he's Barney, after all, they share a voice actor. /s
Interesting video. One critique is that you should be more expressive because you had this "burger king foot lettuce" tone pattern
The last thing you'd want in your Citadel is someone's foot fungus. But as it turns out, that might be what you get.
I had to bump up the speed to 1.50x, It feels to me like the audio was slowed down to stretch out the length of the video.
Bk foot lettuce tone pattern...
Absolute poetry
Number 17. The last thing you'd want in your Combine Citadel Base is Gordon Feetman, but that might be what you get as this reddit user found out
we goin back to deranged 2008 forum threads with this one 🔥🔥🔥🔥
wake and bake, mr.freeman, wake and...bake...
not that i wish to imply you have been smoking on the job...
10:44 this sound scrared me buh
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"wake up, wake up and... smell the half life... x..."
say that again?
I heard a theory that Gman made himself look vaguely like Gordon to essentially taunt him. Idk I still think it’s two different beings
I have a theory that Half Life universe is based using a blueprint of the Lovecraftian universe, that lead writer Marc Laidlaw used to create a story for the game. Marc is famous for creating other similar fiction like those books showcased in the HL1 locker, 37-th Mandala and Orchid Eater. Why am i thinking this, well, G Man is in my oppinion based, or at least inspired by the cosmic entity from the Lovecraftian stories called Nyarlathotep one of the outer gods and antagonists in the Cthulhu Mythos. You can read about this character in the H.P. Lovecraft wiki, its backstory is basically a perfect match with that of a G-Man. Yithians are similar to Vorts, and there are many other examples of HL and Lovecraft universe mirroring each other. But the most striking resemblance is the G-Man and Nyarlathotep. Look it up.
That’s a really interesting connection, I never thought about that before I’ll look into it
@mrstawiki Check on H.P. Lovecraft wiki about Nyarlathotep. I was surprized how similar his backstory is to the G Man.
In my opinion, G-Man is a representation of the writers, and his employers are Valve. When you take that into consideration, a lot of the things he says make a lot more sense.
I always saw the G-man as Gabe N and his employers represents us the Buying public. Basically the G-man Directs Gordon to do things that will keep his employer happy. were as Gabe N directs valve developers to keep us happy.
Looked at title. Brain went 💥. Must watch.
Glad it caught your eye!
The G-man is actually the baby in the picture inside Gordon’s locker
nice video, 1 piece of evidence i didnt see you bring up though was at the end of hl1 when youre on the tram with gman, he offers freeman to go into stasis or die, gman clearly wouldnt kill his past self as itd kill him to, and if he was freeman he wouldve not given the option and forced him into stasis
(sorry if i got some stuff wrong i havent played hl1 in a good while)
Probably the biggest evidence against the idea of them being the same person that I can think of is that the G-Man often comes off as antagonistic, if not quite hostile. He directs others to follow along a certain path, but he does so in a way that is beneficial moreso for his own best interests rather than theirs. He barely even maintains the illusion of benevolence, appearing only just friendly enough for others to cooperate with him but while also maintaining a position of dominance and a sense of apathy towards others. He cares about things getting done and puts those capable of doing these things in position to do so, but he doesn't care about the people themselves and has very limited patience when they don't cooperate. This often leaves others feeling very negatively towards him after the fact, with him screwing over Eli in particular repeatedly to the point the poor guy hates his guts.
Gordon is antithetical to this. While we don't get to see his personality directly as his actions are the players and in the first game we could even make him into a murderous psychopath if we so desire, his canonical personality appears to be a much more kind and selfless one. He rescued scientists at Black Mesa, freed the Vortigaunts from captivity, and has continued to fight for freedom where he can along the way helping others as he goes. Gordon actively puts his own neck on the line for the sake of others who can't defend themselves and doesn't ask for anything in return, only taking that which is offered to him in thanks. The path he walks isn't strictly for his own benefit, but for the benefit of others. This has given him a messianic reputation; the name "Freeman" is regarded highly and he finds himself often respected by friends and strangers alike.
To suggest that Gordon eventually goes on to become the G-Man is to suggest that Gordon eventually goes on to throw away everything and everyone he once fought for, all for personal gain. It's not just an unsatisfying conclusion to Gordon's story, it's the ultimate bad ending in which the hero who sacrificed so much for the sake of others obtains ultimate power and then proceeds to use it against those he once fought so hard for. This could be satisfying if the story direction was for Gordon to reject this version of himself and ultimately defeat him, but this would also be a cringeworthy cliche that would be distinctly unlike Valve's usual writing direction. I find it much more likely that the similarities between the two characters exist to thematically put them at odds against each other, rather than to tie them together as the same person. They are metaphorically two sides of the same coin; A selfless hero who prevails against all odds against him for the sake of others on one side, and a selfish bureaucrat with ultimate power who directs things towards his own benefit for the sake of some unknown "employers" on the other. Not so different at a surface level, and yet entirely different at the fundamental level.
I've always thought that the G in G-man stands for government.
If you would like to watch my G-Man Video, I touch on this subject
While i dont believe the Gman is Freeman, i do think the argument can be made that the jacket in Freemans locker in hl2 points as evidence since it resembled the color of Gmans suit jacket
Fair argument, but obviously not close to enough of a similarity to make the point in the end
Both have green eyes, too
Well now i want to know if g-man is working with the combine or not, because there evidence on both sides of this.
Quick thing, I am liking the video and will still watch from the point I have paused you bringing up HL;OF and HL;BS as a source to fight on its own is a bad choice only due to the fact that apparently whenever Valve has made/makes a Half Life game they make it without keeping those two games in mind..
I mean you can use said points as helping points to boost any theory/ debunking but you cant utilise this as its own major point and seeing how the HL;OF point seems to be announced on its own I will say you have me with a few less points then to those who dont actually know about the two side games canonicity..
Also believe me, I would love to have HL;BS as Canon but seeing how we dont see any of those characters return as of yet its hard to say for certain whether its canon (also yes, I said I would love to see HL;BS as Canon without mention HL;OF.. Although HL;OF had great gameplay its story doesnt feel as connected compared to HL;BS does even with a few characters not returning and also seeming like they dont at all exist.. With a slightly well rewritten character cast throughout the overall game, I think the story would work beyond like as example instead of Rosenberg you do Kleiner or Eli.. I am rambling now but you know.. XD)
So I kept watching and so I must say, I agree and disagree..
I dont know how else to really feel when it comes to this since I feel most of the points with agreement but its definitely one of those things where I just cant help but to feel off about it like the things that line up..
I saw a post from an ex-Valve writter through a youtube video talking and explaining it and supposedly said post was the "rough idea for Half-Life 2: Episode 3", the post/story was called Epistle 3..
Now even here its not to say anything can be classed as canon due to several reasons, first the ex-dev no longer working for valve hence the ex-dev, and second would go to Half-Life Alyx..
To say the very least, the ending of Epistle 3 did feel very strange and I wouldnt be surprised if that much telerporting would warp someone like Gordon Freeman into the Gman, and perhaps the Gman was keeping Gordon in stasis maybe to prevent this?.
But then again, even though Gordon FreeMAN and the GMAN have a lot in common with their names, the GMAN might not even be his name..
Fun fact, the Gman is an actual term used apparently by americans and its short for Government-man or essiantially a Government Agent which would imply that he works for the Government, then again Gordon Freeman technically works for the Government since Black Mesa is very connected (not owned) with the Government which could be another point that can be made..
This topic is such a rabbit hole because I feel like you can debunk this theory but then also debunk the debunk of this theory.. XD
Gman is chell from the past
u sound like chills
gman
I find this theory ridiculous (from the point of view that if it were real I would find it extremely boring and even detrimental to the story)
Exactly my thinking, wouldn’t work in the context of valves storytelling either
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number 15
Literally never heard this theory. It's dumb