DID HARLEY GET IT RIGHT WITH THE NEW FAT BOY? | H-D FATBOY HEAD-TO-HEAD COMPARISON
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2020
- The Harley-Davidson Fatboy was made famous after its appearance in the 1991 action film "The Terminator 2" starring Arnold Schwarzenegger. It is arguably the most recognizable Harley model ever built. So with so much history and so much renown behind the famed model, why did Harley change so much about it for the 2018 model year? What changes did they make? And, ultimately, did Harley get it right?
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"Old school" looks way better in my opinion
Agreed sleeker in width, I love the handlebars on the old school way better, the solid wheels look better on the old school...almost everything looks better
Couldn’t disagree more. Different strokes for different folks.
@@BackcountryTreks I'm an old fart. I haven't liked the Harley designs from 2005 on up. They're nice bikes, just don't like the way they look anymore
The new design blows the old one away in just about every way.
Honestly the old one looks awful next to this sexy new beauty!
@dailykaizen8313 I think they both look good. The older model is better for the price. Wouldn't have it in blue tho, needs to be in black.
As an old school biker I didn’t want to like the new one! But I gotta say, I absolutely love everything about my 114 fat boy!
Long live my Evo’s
For me, it's old style, love the 2011 (I own a 2012 Fat Boy Lo) but what the hey, I'm a 74 year old woman who has been riding for 50+ years and it's always going to be old style for me hahaha!
I respect that you keep your roots
Wow Julia 74 thats great to read. You make me feel young as I am aged 71 . Did you ever see Elvis live. Its a real shame that he never came over to the UK. I would have loved to go over to the States during this era as I grew up watching American tv programmes. Lets both much sure we are till riding in our 80s. Stay save. Ted
Big respect Mam.
I'm with ya!
Old School all the way!
Though I'm about half the age I still have good taste. ;)
I'm looking for a 97'-99' Fat Boy.
Old school for me too! I'm saving for one of these but I want EVO.
I just bought a 2022 Fatboy and I fell in love with it as soon as I rode it. It's a pure muscle bike. The looks drew me in, riding it sealed the deal for me.
Any upgrades?
@@crunchnuts just some Vance and Hines Short Shots. It just doesn’t need a lot IMO.
I just bought a 22 fat boy myself and absolutely love it, it’s completely stock but I’m looking into some exhaust. are the Vance and Hines short shots worth it?
@@daltonsweiger5102 They look and sound great.
@@guffinator70 awesome, I’ll definitely be looking into them
Love my 2004 Fatboy!! Turns heads at every corner !!!
@@daviedood2503 What reason is it then?
@@daviedood2503 So you know the guy personally? That's cool. Sounds like the only one compensating and has an ego is you but what the hell do I care.
@@daviedood2503 You confuse me commenting with actually "caring". You can say whatever makes you feel like a tough guy I honestly don't care. Knowing you couldn't resist replying back with such ego I was just curious what words of wisdom you might have to share with us all today. You sound about as mature as an angry little 6yr old. Again I'm more analyzing idiots on UA-cam like yourself because I find it interesting how much hatred there is in this world. Again I don't care, just looking in. It's always easy acting tough behind a computer. People like yourself don't know about respect and bark real loud until they try it in person and get delt with. Just remember there's always someone bigger and badder than yourself that doesn't mind taking out the trash but hell what do I care right?
@@daviedood2503 Wow you really got me all figured out. How am I trying to sound tough? I'm simply stating facts. Another fun fact I don't have any feelings. Lost those long ago but thanks for assuming I do. Have fun getting your jollys off being immature and tough to people. You should try it in person sometime. These are all just words on a screen, it was a good chat.
Ditto and ditto 🛵 mine's in Lava Red
Old skool!
I have a 2003 fat boy white pearl. It’s gorgeous. I like both styles but the old school is truly an American icon.
Yes just got a 2016 Fat Boy S the Traditional look is the best and they are a Kick Ass Bike.not this new gay look
@@ballaratevil6048 Agree! your bike is beautiful! Where are you from? It looks like you’re not in the US
@@orangewhip115 australia Adelaide had it for 2 weeks 2500 K's on it when I got it and I am out of this world This Bike has a Soul and is My first Harley I am so Lucky I got the best one
@@ballaratevil6048 oh Australia! You’re enjoying the good weather I bet! We are under a foot a snow! I look at my bike all alone in the garage and cry! Lol!
@@orangewhip115 yes I see what is happeneing over there and yes summer here so making the most of it but I am so glad I waited to Buy A Harley now as My Mercedes 2008 E280 sport nice better shape and the price was cheap but Harleys here are like Gold hold their price big time I cant see Your bike
Have a 2018 FatBoy 114 and love it !,
Old look with fog lights looks great than all the world
I’ve owned a 2012 Fat Boy and I’ve now just bought the new Fat Boy. I loved my old bike, but the New Fat Boy is just something else and Harley Davidson have taken this iconic bike to a new level
Rode old and new. The biggest difference is the feel of the motor bouncing or not. I like feeling the motor bounce personally. That’s what makes it a Harley
I'm an owner of the original 1990 silver with yellow bits Fatboy (Grey Ghost). That big round chrome headlight housing is essential. The 2018 with integrated front cowls and lamp just looks all wrong to me and must be a pig to maintain and adjust if necessary.
Oh, and original Fatboys are not comfy. They may look very similar to the Heritage Softail, but the Fatboys fancy pig skin leather seat is much thinner in padding. You'll be lucky to get 50 miles on it when new before a numb arse, and work your way up to 100 miles over a year or so. In the 60k+ miles its done, I've had a rider's seat re-fluffed twice !
The Grey Ghost is easily the best looking of any Fatboy, but then again, I'm biased
I ride a 2011 Fatboy lo. I prefer the the older model than the new one. The new Fatboy reminds me of my friends m109R for some reason but that's what I think.however I never rode the M8 but I think it would be badass. Ride safe everyone.
And don't forget to wear your high viz 😊
New Fatboy is Hell of a Beast with that Headlight, M8 engine & the Fat tyre, it’s awesome 👍👍👍👍👍
Love mine!!
Funny those are all the reasons I don't like it. haha
I'll take skinnier tires, a better sounding engine and a round headlight.
I guess I'm old school. I don't need a "fast" Harley.
Look like jap bikes, but the modern biker look like transvestites so go for it. It’s your world these days
Old school just bought the 2011 same color cool blue pearl and I love it looks great rides like a dream very nice very happy with the bike!!
I like both probably leaning a little towards the 2018. Very cool looking bikes but for some reason, I'm just not a fan of the solid front wheels. They look cool on the back though.
I prefer the narrower tyres on the older models
I have a 2019 Fatboy. I love it!! I went from a 2012 street glide with 103 to this one. The Milwaukee 8 seems better in every way over the twin can to me. Mine has the 114 on it. Power is bonkers for a cruiser.
I bought my first Fatboy in 1992 and my last one (Fatboy S) in 2015. I test rode the 2018 Fatboy 114. Nice bike but it no longer feels like a Fatboy. I'm also old school so like the full rear fender. Not a fan either of the new headlight. Like I said earlier...I bought my last Fatboy in 2015.
I have the same feeling, I just tested the 2023, yes its new and powerfull but you dont need it. The position was not good and wheels to wide. It could have been a Yamaha did not feel like a Harley.
I almost bought a 2019/114 FB . . . . BUT . . .
I thought for $27,000 CAD I better fall in love with this thing!
So . . . I rented one for a weekend off my local dealer from his demo fleet.
Cost me $200 CAD . . . money well spent.
First impressions of the 2019:
I like the new front headlight design.
I hate the fenders . . . especially the rear . . . too short IMHO.
I ABSOLUTELY HATE the larger tires . . especially the rear . . . too wide.
Takes noticeably more effort in the twisties.
Stock HD suspension on the 2019 FB IS STILL CRAP . . . just like all their bikes.
I HATE the Throttle By Wire . . . . nothing beats properly set throttle cables.
Yes . . . the 114 M8 makes a bit more power than the 103 TC . . .
but not the night and day difference I expected . . .
and no . . . I am not spending 6000+ to give the 103 more power.
If have the urge to go faster, I will ride my 2008 Honda CBF1000 that day
and beat almost anything out there and it only cost me $4700 CAD.
Yes I have 2 Hondas and a Fatboy. :)
So . . . went looking for a nice 2017 or older FB which I like
the overall, traditional FB look better anyway.
Found a MINT, one-owner 2013 FB Lo with 10,000 miles on it.
Had about $4000 CAD in nice accessories on it including V&H Big Long Shots
and SE Ventilator Air Cleaner.
Bought it for $12,000 CAD ($9000 USD) Cash.
Bike included ALL the OEM parts. BONUS!
Rode it home 18 miles.
HATED the V&H pipes. WAY TOO LOUD!
HATED the stock rear suspension.
Once home (same day), I took off the V&H pipes and SE Air Cleaner
and installed the stock pipes and air filter. AWESOME!
Sold those parts for $700 CAD.
Next day ordered Progressive Suspension 422C Heavy Duty Rear shocks and Fork Springs
which cost about $900 CAD.
They arrived a week later and I installed the PS shocks at there highest position.
Took it for a ride and WOW! No more bottoming out. LOVE IT!
Following weekend we did the PS fork springs and set the steering head bearings.
WOW AGAIN!
Next Monday, installed a set of Michelin Commander 3s after taking of the
CRAP Dunlops.
DOUBLE WOW!!!!
Now, I love this bike!!!!!
I am 5' 7" and it fits me like a glove with stock handlebars and floorboards.
It handles very well with no bottoming out.
It is quiet and does not kill my ears or piss off the neighbors.
I cruises all day long at 70-75 MPH and gets 60+ Miles per Canadian Gallon of gas.
Even at 70 MPH it has enough passing power to feel safe when needed.
I will do a bit over 100 MPH but it loves 70-75 at under 3000 RPM.
What else do I need????
Just my opinion and overall opinion . . .
for less than half the price of a new Fatboy . . . I have exactly what I always wanted.
I agree with everything but to go back to stock exhaust? Gross
You make up for your lack of stature with an extremely long post, well done!
I have the 2010 Fatboy Lo, and I love it. Ironically, I put a freight train cowl and thicker trim ring on it. I just liked the look better. I do wish it had the bigger 107 engine.
2002 or earlier fatboy is the best in my opinion for looks.
Plus the 1999 to 2002's have Timken crank bearings.
I own a 99 fatboy.....Best styling and sound!!!!
Very nice
love the new look 👀
I’ve owned an old and new Fatboy and I respect the opinions of both sides as to which bike looks better..I will say that the suspension and 114 motor on the new bike beats the older one hands down..enjoy your ride..
I agree but they look like a rice burner.
@@jbeam794 yep, jap bike
Thank you for vdo
I've grown up loving the Fatboys, and I didn't like the new one at first but it's definitely grown on me.
When you look at it you KNOW it's a Fatboy, and that's what matters.
It's definitely making it's statement and letting you know, and that's what matters!
I wish they would've stuck with the old school front end and headlight on the new fatboys
Thanks Mason. You won't believe what you are about to read. I recently traded my BMW GS in for my first Harley a Pan American Special and as good as the bike is , and it is good , I was missing the low down toque of the GS but couldn't go back to one as I have made so many friends at our local Harley dealership over here in the UK. What to do then ! Bank account was dry having brought the PAS so all I could do was to buy an older Harley. So I have brought a 2014 Fat boy and I just love it. Its great to see that you have a lot of respect for the older version as well. Definitely as you advice going to get a screen for it as well. Can you recommend anyone in the States to buy one from. Stay safe out there. Ted
I don't like that new headlight that is butt ugly. I like to look of the old ones I have a 98.
i'm in love with my fatty 1340 :)
Evo! Had one very cool
@@rshunley1 Bro! 3 yr.ago… sadly i sold my Evo.☹️☹️
I like the engine improvements on the M8, but it doesn't sound like a proper HD to my ears. Styling-wise, I like the older look. I've got a 2015 FB, and I'm in no hurry to trade it in on a new one.
Have a 03 Fatboy so I'm partial to old school.
Thanks for the review. I currently own a 2018 Fatboy this is my first bike, and I am having a blast.
Ride safe
First bike. How does that work. Surely you have to train on a 125 or thereabouts first ?
Not in the states. Once you’ve got your full motorcycle endorsement you can ride a bike with virtually any displacement. My first bike was also an HD Dyna. I bought it the week after I got my endorsement. It had a 96ci motor in it. Perfect learner’s bike, in my opinion
@@TheTwoWheeledTeacher ah, but once you got your full license. So whilst a learner, what were you riding. Something much smaller in capacity I'm sure, hence my point that a Harley is not one's first motorbike
Nope, there was no learners permit stage for me. Took a close over the course of a weekend. Spent about 8 hours in a parking lot on a Honda 250, 8 hours in a classroom and left with a full motorcycle license.
@@TheTwoWheeledTeacher well I guess a Dyna is a more sensible machine than some. Easy to ride, therefore ok for a novice, but still too big and heavy for a UK legal aged 17yo I'd say. Well that was the legal age for passing a full sized motorbike test when I did, back in 1977 aged 17. Now UK motorbike tests, with your age, experience and bike power rating, are so complicated now, I've lost track. I don't think the government really wants us riding motorcycles, so make it very difficult to get legal.
Def new look. So clean and beautiful ❤️. I love my 2018 Fatboy pearl white with them flakes on it.
As the Owner of a 2012 Fatboy Lo, the first yr it got bumped to a 103 ci, 6 speed tranny and I widened from to accommodate a 200 mm rear tire that I special ordered because my dealer did not have even one of. Understand I don’t ride a Fatboy because I can’t afford an Ultra ! I ride a Fatboy because it’s the most beautiful Harley Davidson ever made and it was always my favorite period. This totally changed bike is far closer to the VRod that got killed off, Ironically the Fatboy was killed off as well, only they kept the name and logo. But when I walk around this new bike, it feels more like a VRod, not a Fatboy. The fact that we are even having this conversation don’t vote well for the new VRod, I mean Fatboy, my bad , or rather HD’s Bad.
Newer look. Former owner of a 2021 Fatty, now on a Street Glide - I do miss riding my Fatty and regret trading it in.
I like the older design. I have a 2008. The M8 107 motor is a beast, my girl has one in her Softail Slim
Old Skool Fatboy all the way. Such an iconic bike. I get they have to evolve it, but it was pretty perfect from the start. The only flaw with a Fatboy as a hwy bike is the wheels. The solid wheels are brutal in high winds.
Old school bike is the bomb.That new bike doesn't even look like a Fatboy.Habe fun with that m8 and all of its issues.Ride safe.
I own a 1999 Fatboy,last year of the production evo.I don't get all of this vibration I always hear about and it's as smooth a ride as you could hope for.Runs like brand new.I love it, it's what a motorcycle is supposed to be.
i love every Fatboy
The new model kill everything, it's pure beauty, defenitly a win for HD
I owned a 1990 original Fatboy and just bought 2023 114. From memory, I somewhat disagree with this video. The seating position is not the same between the two bikes as the handlebars and grips were set better on the older one to provide more comfort at least for shorter drivers like myself. Also I have the impression that the hand controls on the new bike are farther apart from the grips compared to the old one. I could be wrong but that’s the impression I get. Motor is of course different. More powerful for sure but it’s got less character.
Very true!! Mine is a 99 fatboy
Gladiator, can I ask how tall you are?
@@scotttracy9333 Yes of course; I am 5,6.
Just got my 2020 Fat Boy 114 two weeks ago, straightaway went stage 4 131 on it and internals all S&S with the Kerker Bootlegger 2into1 exhaust and done 'n upped the rear wheel to a 260 instead of the 240 it came with. Absolutely in love with the bike. Nothing compares. real comfy and when necessary packs a serious punch. surprisingly also handles quite well.
I like old school
Old one looks way better
It does have that OG Harley feel to it for sure
I like the 2021 model lots of crome 114in looks good with 2 tone paint.
Love it the new look , still can’t afford HD but that’s ok !!! 🙏🙌😂
Buy an older one. Great deals on them.
I'm old. I admit it. The new "Fatboy" might be a good bike but it's not a Fatboy. LIke the new Chevy Blazer is not a Blazer and the new Bronco is not a Bronco... I like things the way they were - hahaha. I put 93,000 miles on an '05 Heritage Softail. I loved that bike. I only got rid of it to get an Ultra Limited so my wife would be more comfortable on our long trips. If I could afford another softail, it would be a carbureted Evo. It's not fast, but it's the ultimate nostalgic Harley style and sound.
Yep!
I prefer the front lamp of the old Fatboy.. My Fatboy is fitted with the Nacelle so it looks bulkier from Head to toe.
I didn't ride the old model but i have the new model and it is incredible. My old bike is a sportster custom 883.
Thanks for watching! I really enjoyed the 2018, and have since reviewed a 114. Absolutely love that bike!
@@TheTwoWheeledTeacher hi, could you please send me the link for your review of the 114
Here you go! ua-cam.com/video/RsAwWLcTYJY/v-deo.html
@@TheTwoWheeledTeacher thanks man
I own the grand daddy…1990 Fatboy. Love it!
I love mine 2002 fatboy it’s a head turner
Old school all the way
The old one look more beautiful then the new one
I have a 2018 fat boy 107, i have owned 11 other harleys, all twin cam on dynas and electra glides the M* is my favorite loads of low end torque and mechanically quiter than twin cams.. I like mine...
In my opinion, both bikes look great and represent the eras in which they were made. I just wish Harley still offered the newer M8 FB in a blacked-out version like the Fat Boy S. Once they throw the 117 in the FB I will trade my FLSS in.
I prefer the look of the 2011. I would like to know if you have made a comparison between the heritage and the fat boy. I have a 2014 heritage and love it.
I've always had Dynas, but I really don't like look of the new Harley's...none of them.
had a 2007 for 12 years, all good and cool but sold it 2019 and bought an e-glide. Missed my fatboy and just bought a new 2022 model. Find it more comfortable and more fun. Still have the e-glide 😬
love my 96 evo for life
Love the 18...the front looks so much better!! Infact l.would now think about owning the fatboy, its now a great looking bike.
Bummer about the audio. Aside from 1 being blue and the other black and the chopped fenders...
New school....Yes i`m a boomer. But Harley must evolve...They did that well in 2018 with the Fatboy. Look at Harley throughout each decade.....There is always progression....and there is always the preowned market if you don`t like it.
The Blue bike looks 30 years old while the Black bike looks very modern and very sharp. Glad they didn't go with Black wheels.
Twin Cam 103 sounds so much better than the M8.
OLD ONE I LOVE IT
New bikes are badass too but my 96' Fatboy turns heads like it's her job.
My 94 Fatboy smoked one of these new modern day Fatboy turds. I'll take old any day over anything new as I can fix it myself without the aide of a computer or a technician to tell me what's wrong with it.
I like the old school look and design, currently at the stage of what to choose between a early model Fatboy or a later model with the milwaukee 8 engine that has more grunt, especially on the long hauls of 12 hours or more. Or do i go with a softtail. The full fenders is what attracts me, especially if your riding in wet weather most of the time. I think that what puts me off the latest FatBoy, color choice is minimal.
Harley should have kept the big fenders and headlight.
I Love the look of the 2018!!!
Love the old-school Fatboy a lot better Justin opinion everybody likes different stuff
I love my 2004 Fatboy.
The new Fatboy don’t measure up. When HD modified the 2012 to a 103 ci and widened the frame to accommodate much wider rubber that was a very nice upgrade that kept the old school styling and look. But the total remake in 2018 is a totally different bike with Fatboy badging. Personally, HD in my opinion made a huge marketing mistake by stealing the Fatboy name and putting it on a totally different bike that in its own merits is a good bike but now has to live up to a pedigree that just is not possible. HD should have given this bike a brand new identity, not one it can never live up to.This marketing blunder will not help sales. If HD wanted to kill of the Fatboy, that’s fine. Just don’t still a non -transferable Identity and history. Ironically, though this total remake is not water cooled, it has more in common with the VRod that was also killed off. In my first initial disappointing walk around, I was feeling VRod, again another marketing mistake by HD.
Can't stand the look of the new Fat Boy. The head light, rear tire and fender killed one of the best models Harley ever made.
I'll prefer old school any time
I have test ridden both and both ride awesome. I do agree the M8 has the torque and IMO 2018 had less vibration on the handle which was a big plus. I do like the older style rear fender better versus the bob look on the new model. At the end, I would buy the new model for the new technologies (keyless, automatic security, automatic turn signal off, digital display, LED, etc). Technology is there and I would like to take advantage of it
Hi,
These technologies (except the M8 of course) were already in use in 2011 (I own a 2011 Softail Blackline).
Ride safe.
Old school every time
The new one looks like the starship Enterprise with that head light. All wheel not much tire Old school definitely...
I’m not sure you know what the star ship enterprise looks like.
I love the new solid rim design and the brushed chrome look waaaaay better than the older style
normal? My idle is high on the stop in neutral is doing 1290 on rpm .. is this normal?
I like almost everything about my 07 except the floorboards. They push my legs back to much and I can't ride very far without hurting.
I like them both but I lean to the new 2018
I have a 2015 fb lo. Plenty of pep in it. I would like to ride the m8.
I love the M8s! But my twin cam still has my heart. Thanks for watching!
The 2017 model was the last good model for me. After that they started making them too futuristic, which I'm not a fan of that.
I think they look cool but I agree. They went to far and should of just made it a different bike and kept the classic Fat Boy in addition.
I hope someone can help me...
SO many positive as negative comments I heard and now I just don't know what to think.
Is this engine very reliable? It's a great lookin' bike, a dream, but for that price the last think you want to know is that oyu didn't bought a bullet proof machine. I know that all motorcycles can have issues, but I think you understand my point. I only want to have that confidence of the engine between my legs and trust that will not have an issue in the mid of the road or a problematic engine you know? Just want that "for-life" spirit without big issues...
In other chapter, great video as always Mason, priceless quality and thank you for coming with all this information
Keep riding safe brothers
I would suggest you rent a new fatboy for the week and ride it like crazy, and form your own opinion
@@scotttracy9333 thanks for your suggestion
2021 with the shiny chrome is even better than the 18.
I ride a 2002 Fatboy. I think that the newer Fatboy looks more menacing and it would be nice to upgrade to one with a 114 M8.
When I was in high school, I always thought that Harley-Davidson manufactures only one model, which is the Fatboy. It’s the thing I’ve known about Harley bikes back then (except the vintage ones).
I prefer the old school esthetically
You 'le right Peter old schooo look better end good design
If Arnold approves the new model is ok to get one.
I’d agree with that!
I don't classify the 2018 as a fatboy. Just cause it's got solid wheels and fat tires and a wider frame don't make it one. I understand things need to evolve but 06,07 were slight changes were ok. It might be pigeon holed but 2018 was a complete revamp and not for the better in my opinion. The terminator movie was when i fell in love with the bike. They should have changed the heritage softtail instead. Since it was similar to the fatboy.
You didn't notice anything about the suspension? Are you kidding ? I've owned a 2017 (110) and now a 2021 (114) fat boy and I can tell you the suspension is better on the 2021. On the 2017 every bump on the road was felt, especially when riding two up, just ask my girlfriend. The engine in the 2021 is amazing and faster than the 2017. Also the heat coming from the engine is less on the 2021. The kick stand on the 2021 is shorter an feels like the bike is going to tip over. You feel the wind much more on 2021 than the 2017. Going above 80mph on the 2021 is very uncomfortable vs the 2017. I guess its because of the way the headlight sits. Overall I think the 2021 is a much better improvement over the 2017. Your review left out a lot
Sorry but I love them both you can’t go wrong 👍😁
old model nicer
Your camera needs to be lower so you can see more of the bike as you ride it. I like the original Fat Boy, way more visually appealing and classic bike.
The older one looks a lot better. The headlight housing looks like a riceburner trying to get "the look" but I bet the newer one runs like hell tho. :)
The '18 doesn't have V&H Short Shots on it, they're just V&H slip-ons on the stock headers.
As to which looks better, the answer is neither. The original Evo Fat Boy is the winer.
I'm also in Tallahassee, I run a hot rod / paint shop. Actually used to paint for the Tally Harley store. Anyway, I ride a 1990 Fatboy and love it. Its not my XZ11, but its a great riding OG bike. Love it.