Josh is one of my favorite instructors and just a great guy all around. Excellent instruction and I teach my students in my class using a lot of the things I learned from Josh.
crossfit always teaches you exercises in a specific order. by the time you're learning the snatch, you've already learned/practiced the deadlift, backsquat, frontsquat, and the clean.
Errr… no it doesn’t. CrossFit coaches build a plan for their class at the start of the year, and that’s what you’re doing in the year, regardless of your level and when you join the class. They might sometimes have suggestions for how to scale if you’re struggling with the movements, but not every time, and if you take the scaled version you pretty much never catch up.
The squat is used for proper form and to get the most out of your lift. Unless you're specifically doing Power Snatches (hips don't go below 90 degrees) then you should use the squat. Especially in a technical lift like the snatch, setting a good movement pattern is key, so if you start with low weights but do the full movement, you will be likelier to hit a new PR, or at least get under the bar faster and with good form.
Its amazing how crossfit instructors teach these lifts one way and then world champion weightlifters have a seminar at a crossfit gym and teach the exact opposite
so when i do the snatch, i normally don't squat until i get to the heavier weights. Is it all part of the form to squat at the end? or is it used as a way to help get the bar over the head? just curious so i know if i should start squatting at the end regardless of the weight to ensure i have good form
I'm not asking this because I think CrossFit is the only place to learn lifts like this, but since every one is hating where else could I go to learn these? Any suggestions since you think CrossFit is not the place to go? Thanks
It trips me out that Josh Everett gets negative comments on his O lift teaching technique because he is a CrossFitter. I never see the same negative comments on Mike Burgener (Olympic coach) or Chad Vaughn (Olympic lifter) who both teach O lifts for CrossFit even though THEY TEACH THE EXACT SAME THINGS!!!
You guys are right. You shouldn't go to a CrossFitter to learn the Olympic lifts. You might end up snatching 300lbs at 195 like Rich Froning, or learning from someone who does a 400+lb clean and jerk in the 77kg category like Olympic lifter Chad Vaughn. Going to a CrossFit gym might have you learning O lifts from Olympic lifting coach Mike Burgener. Steer clear cause you just might get in shape, too.
andre weightlifter The individual that teaches the shrug and catch is Mike Burgener. Mike Burgener's son Casey broke a National record in the snatch during the 2004 Olympic trials with a 171 kg lift in the 105 kg weight class. Maybe you could explain to them that it's a faulty method.
In reality there is no jumping in athletics. All the forces generated through the legs, hips and back or upper torso are generated before the feet leave the ground. This is true in the long jump, high jump, discus and shot put and especially in weightlifting. The lifter is apply leverage through the legs, hips and back to gain momentum at full extension. Lifting the legs under the lifter's body to gain an advantaged position is not the same as jumping. A critical point you should be aware of.
Obviously knowledgeable instruction but he goes way too fast. People complain about CF coaches opening affiliates too fast and this is part of the problem. Not that it's all his fault - it's a big group - but yes, much too fast.
I mean he's right, despite the fact that the first sentence was wildly inaccurate and batshit crazy. Everything else was spot-on. There's no jump in weightlifting, at all.
Yeah, it's good to get multiple opinions from multiple coaches on the oly lifts. I've had 3 separate coaches, and I've basically pieced together the best parts of their advice as far as how it pertains to my body type. Also, there's no front squat in the snatch. I think you mean overhead squat.
yeah, i mean, generally speaking, teaching to going down fast in the dip (opposite to slow/controlled) is generally not intuitive. I know this not apply specifically for the snatch, but applies in all the rest (front squat, push press ... ).
i understand the trick here ... down fast for the catch is good for clean and snatch (1 rep, heavy weights). In both case you don't have to dip. This basically applies to thrusters and push press (more reps, less weight)
Acutally he is charging more than the best weighlifter in germany who won titles and could use them as a chair, game of thrones like. Btw, he doesnt get enough money form teaching for buying new weights. Maybe he should sell his work by the name of "crossfit" and not weightlifting. probably he wont have moneyproblems anymore.
WTF, these jerking motions look like you're going to pull your back out and slip a disc. OSHA advises not to perform sudden jerking motions at the workplace, so why is it okay at the gym. Awkward. :-/
This is why I don’t like CrossFit. None of those people left there that day knowing how Olympic lift but they learned all the proper buzzwords to sound like they’re a coach now. I had to go study coaching seminars from actual Olympic lifters to finally learn how to do these lifts correctly. All those coaches make fun of CrossFit
Far too many drills all rolled into one, and way too many people with little or no observation or correction of technique. if you are unable to execute a back squat or deadlift with correct technique, which i doubt these people can, then you should not be attempting to learn the snatch. If this coaching is provided by crossfit HQ i question the quality of coaching at a club level. i would argue that only the top 10% of crossfitters ever develop decent olympic lifting understanding and technique
this is very bad. It's like sleeping on 50 years of research on the subject and avoiding the reason other countries are much more efficient in the lifts...
La metodología esta mala, se enseñen desde el primer halon en adelante. Los brazos no se usan. El "instructor" tienes muchos errores técnicos principalmente entre el primer halon y el segundo. Lo peor es que lo enseña así. Se usan las piernas para subir la barra NO, la espalda ni los brazos!
In this video one can see death of men and the triumph of androgyny. In the last 50 years, male serum testosterone levels have decreased on average by 50%. This is an astounding fact that can be explained by the extermination of any acceptable male refuges. Man cannot even lift weights without having to interact with women. This sort of platonic interaction with women - in co-ed schools, workplaces, clubs, sports, ect radically reduces androgen receptor sensitivity and endogenous testosterone output. Females, on the hand, increase their testosterone profile by forming these platonic interactions with males. Androgyny is king. Masculine females and feminine males rule. What irony that weightlifting in the aggregate has a feminizing effect on males and masculinizing effect on females. This is all negative in my view but a trend that will continue. Testosterone replacement is a solution but not an optimal one.
jloo222 I train oly lifts daily and I love having women there. In fact, I actually perform better lifts when there's biches watching, it gets me pumped. Furthermore, this guy doesn't have any scientific evidence to back up his claims that male testosterone levels have decreased by 50%. Nor, that weightlifting has a feminizing effect on men, which is also completely untrue and unscientific
+vishnudestroyer That is the dumbest thing I've read, and that's saying something for reading the comment sections of a lot of CrossFit videos. Please destroy your computer immediately.
I'm well aware of Everett's performance. He's a super strong, explosive dude who succeeded in weightlifting DESPITE his form, and he's an odd choice to be teaching the lifts.
Josh is one of my favorite instructors and just a great guy all around. Excellent instruction and I teach my students in my class using a lot of the things I learned from Josh.
crossfit always teaches you exercises in a specific order. by the time you're learning the snatch, you've already learned/practiced the deadlift, backsquat, frontsquat, and the clean.
Errr… no it doesn’t. CrossFit coaches build a plan for their class at the start of the year, and that’s what you’re doing in the year, regardless of your level and when you join the class. They might sometimes have suggestions for how to scale if you’re struggling with the movements, but not every time, and if you take the scaled version you pretty much never catch up.
6:55 nice snatch technique bro
I saw him flew away!
good, nice job
Please, if anyone is watching this to learn how to snatch. Click off this video and watch another, preferably one not done by a crossfit coach.
The squat is used for proper form and to get the most out of your lift. Unless you're specifically doing Power Snatches (hips don't go below 90 degrees) then you should use the squat. Especially in a technical lift like the snatch, setting a good movement pattern is key, so if you start with low weights but do the full movement, you will be likelier to hit a new PR, or at least get under the bar faster and with good form.
very nice teaching^^
Its amazing how people hate on crossfit
Amazing because they have bastardized oly lifts. Triple extension is crap. They should teach barbody contact, you know, like real lifters.
Its amazing how crossfit instructors teach these lifts one way and then world champion weightlifters have a seminar at a crossfit gym and teach the exact opposite
Lawrence Wiggins Yea cause they cant even teach right. There is no such thing as a jump lol
@@dubyajay7860 show me an elite lifter that doesn't hit trip extension
so when i do the snatch, i normally don't squat until i get to the heavier weights. Is it all part of the form to squat at the end? or is it used as a way to help get the bar over the head? just curious so i know if i should start squatting at the end regardless of the weight to ensure i have good form
Where's the hip explosion?
fantastic video. Great instruction.
the squat is just a way to get under the bar quicker, but it doesnt hurt to do it, worst case you get to work your overhead squat also
actually what he said made a lot of sense and its the same that don, glenn, powwel are saying
What a great demo and really good coaching cues. good work
I'm not asking this because I think CrossFit is the only place to learn lifts like this, but since every one is hating where else could I go to learn these? Any suggestions since you think CrossFit is not the place to go? Thanks
Just ask around in the comment section on youtube videos.
the snatch is such a beautiful lift when done well.. good stuff
That’s why I watch proper Russian or Ukrainian weightlifters
thats real shouldermobility for you right there... 5:08
He has shoulder issues. The split snatch works well for people who don't have great mobility in the shoulder.
Good tips for a beginner like myself.
scariest lift of them all.
Half the people in the class were using a clean grip. And they say there's nothing wrong with Crossfit
World records broken in the 40s when nobody knew what an efficient snatch would look like.
It trips me out that Josh Everett gets negative comments on his O lift teaching technique because he is a CrossFitter. I never see the same negative comments on Mike Burgener (Olympic coach) or Chad Vaughn (Olympic lifter) who both teach O lifts for CrossFit even though THEY TEACH THE EXACT SAME THINGS!!!
except his technique is all over the place.
Very helpful
You guys are right. You shouldn't go to a CrossFitter to learn the Olympic lifts. You might end up snatching 300lbs at 195 like Rich Froning, or learning from someone who does a 400+lb clean and jerk in the 77kg category like Olympic lifter Chad Vaughn. Going to a CrossFit gym might have you learning O lifts from Olympic lifting coach Mike Burgener. Steer clear cause you just might get in shape, too.
a 300 snatch at 195 is mediocre
i'm pretty sure chad vaugn doesn't jump shrug and catch
andre weightlifter If he doesn't jump shrug and catch, how do you think he learnt? Magic?
andre weightlifter The individual that teaches the shrug and catch is Mike Burgener. Mike Burgener's son Casey broke a National record in the snatch during the 2004 Olympic trials with a 171 kg lift in the 105 kg weight class. Maybe you could explain to them that it's a faulty method.
So his son Casey Burgener broke a national record in the snatch by chance I guess.
Casey Burgener's coaches are Mike Burgener and Paul Fleschler
excellent
If you knew how much Josh Everett can lift you wouldn't say that. He can clean and jerk 347 lbs and deadlifts 570 lbs at 185
well he's right for starters
In reality there is no jumping in athletics. All the forces generated through the legs, hips and back or upper torso are generated before the feet leave the ground. This is true in the long jump, high jump, discus and shot put and especially in weightlifting. The lifter is apply leverage through the legs, hips and back to gain momentum at full extension. Lifting the legs under the lifter's body to gain an advantaged position is not the same as jumping. A critical point you should be aware of.
Obviously knowledgeable instruction but he goes way too fast. People complain about CF coaches opening affiliates too fast and this is part of the problem. Not that it's all his fault - it's a big group - but yes, much too fast.
useful information
I mean he's right, despite the fact that the first sentence was wildly inaccurate and batshit crazy. Everything else was spot-on. There's no jump in weightlifting, at all.
ha ha ha
i don't like the "fast down" part in the dip. Heavy weight could punish you bashing into your shoulder in front squat position.
Yeah, it's good to get multiple opinions from multiple coaches on the oly lifts. I've had 3 separate coaches, and I've basically pieced together the best parts of their advice as far as how it pertains to my body type. Also, there's no front squat in the snatch. I think you mean overhead squat.
yeah, i mean, generally speaking, teaching to going down fast in the dip (opposite to slow/controlled) is generally not intuitive. I know this not apply specifically for the snatch, but applies in all the rest (front squat, push press ... ).
i understand the trick here ... down fast for the catch is good for clean and snatch (1 rep, heavy weights). In both case you don't have to dip. This basically applies to thrusters and push press (more reps, less weight)
Is he charging those people 300 bucks a month to meet at the middle school gymnasium?
no
Sorry, I meant $299.99
All you know from the video is that he is at a gymnasium. The rest you are fabricating to suit.
Acutally he is charging more than the best weighlifter in germany who won titles and could use them as a chair, game of thrones like. Btw, he doesnt get enough money form teaching for buying new weights. Maybe he should sell his work by the name of "crossfit" and not weightlifting. probably he wont have moneyproblems anymore.
Actually the price on the website, for a level 1 certificate course is $1,000
WTF, these jerking motions look like you're going to pull your back out and slip a disc. OSHA advises not to perform sudden jerking motions at the workplace, so why is it okay at the gym. Awkward. :-/
+Jesse Keiper Reason.... Crossfit. Where anything is possible in injuries. :|
I'm sorry but snatching has nothing to do with jumping...
Problem is, no one is really being assessed and corrected. Far to many for teaching quality snatch technique.
Cliff notes version in 8 minutes??? Really?
Most of them are olympic lift qualified...
This is why I don’t like CrossFit. None of those people left there that day knowing how Olympic lift but they learned all the proper buzzwords to sound like they’re a coach now. I had to go study coaching seminars from actual Olympic lifters to finally learn how to do these lifts correctly. All those coaches make fun of CrossFit
bahahahahaha
and do Crossfit
thus loga loga
lol
i much rather to fallow the instructions of a true Olympic weightlifter "Power lifter" than this ..
but this is not the correct way to teach someone olympic lifting, you can't argue with that.
Alektra blue
aka people who do crossfit instead of actual Oly lifting.
Far too many drills all rolled into one, and way too many people with little or no observation or correction of technique. if you are unable to execute a back squat or deadlift with correct technique, which i doubt these people can, then you should not be attempting to learn the snatch. If this coaching is provided by crossfit HQ i question the quality of coaching at a club level. i would argue that only the top 10% of crossfitters ever develop decent olympic lifting understanding and technique
this is very bad. It's like sleeping on 50 years of research on the subject and avoiding the reason other countries are much more efficient in the lifts...
La metodología esta mala, se enseñen desde el primer halon en adelante. Los brazos no se usan. El "instructor" tienes muchos errores técnicos principalmente entre el primer halon y el segundo. Lo peor es que lo enseña así.
Se usan las piernas para subir la barra NO, la espalda ni los brazos!
F Jackie....sorry, had to do it...but yeah, I learned my snatch from an oly coach...much better technique
because they are not going to compete at a weightlifting competition...
Why would you ever learn a snatch from crossfit gym.
In this video one can see death of men and the triumph of androgyny. In the last 50 years, male serum testosterone levels have decreased on average by 50%. This is an astounding fact that can be explained by the extermination of any acceptable male refuges. Man cannot even lift weights without having to interact with women. This sort of platonic interaction with women - in co-ed schools, workplaces, clubs, sports, ect radically reduces androgen receptor sensitivity and endogenous testosterone output. Females, on the hand, increase their testosterone profile by forming these platonic interactions with males. Androgyny is king. Masculine females and feminine males rule. What irony that weightlifting in the aggregate has a feminizing effect on males and masculinizing effect on females. This is all negative in my view but a trend that will continue. Testosterone replacement is a solution but not an optimal one.
What a weird reply...maybe the weirdest I've seen on any video in the history of UA-cam.
jloo222 I train oly lifts daily and I love having women there. In fact, I actually perform better lifts when there's biches watching, it gets me pumped. Furthermore, this guy doesn't have any scientific evidence to back up his claims that male testosterone levels have decreased by 50%. Nor, that weightlifting has a feminizing effect on men, which is also completely untrue and unscientific
+vishnudestroyer That is the dumbest thing I've read, and that's saying something for reading the comment sections of a lot of CrossFit videos. Please destroy your computer immediately.
hes shoulder position is not the greatest
I'm well aware of Everett's performance. He's a super strong, explosive dude who succeeded in weightlifting DESPITE his form, and he's an odd choice to be teaching the lifts.
What a big mouth! The essentials could have been transmitted in a couple of minutes.