Hi I own a 2006 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport SR5 Short Box with tow package. So if someone doesn't want to go full on with everything that you mentioned including the suspension lift, body lift or leveling kit for now....but still wants to install a slightly larger tire, from stock 265/70/17 to 285/65/18 on a 18 x 9.5 rim is it really necessary to lift the truck ? Can it not be something as simple as adding for example some 1 or 2 inch spacer extensions front and back from a company like Rough Country ? Or is it not that simple ? Because there's alot of mixed information and suggestions out there that make it so much more difficult to make a decision on what to do. Some videos show adding front and rear extension spacers and done !! And then having an alignment done to make sure you alignment is good to go. Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 👍
@@Tacomaholic Thank you for the reply, it is greatly appreciated. I will lift it sooner or later just not right now. Possibly in a few months. I just hope I don't rip chunks off of the tires in meantime. Thanks again 👍
Next time you go through mods you installed yourself, then it would be cool if you listed all the tools you needed to complete these jobs. If the end, when I consider DIY on this stuff I’m always worried about getting 1/2 through the job only to find out I need a random $500 tool to complete one task, then another $300 tool for another simple task, and so on and so on.
When I do a vid for a specific mod install I go over all the tools needed and even provide links in the video description where you guys can get them. 👍
Wrong. A Tacoma lift will cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars. Lifting Tacos attracts “pink tacos”. To play with quality pink tacos requires engagement rings, Engagement rings leads to weddings, Weddings leads to mortgages, Whatcha gunna do with the second (or third) bedroom? Fill ‘em with babies, (surprise! Twins!) Now you need a minivan, and a third car garage, so you gotta move, again, bigger mortgage, So now you are working more hours, wife is in the Siena minivan, you in the Camry back and forth to work for the better fuel economy, Ballet lessons, hockey gear, (Family Health insurance alone is $10,000 per year, without deductibles, unless you work for the government, thanks Obama, ) Next thing you know, Princess needs a Prom dress and Jr. takes your bitchen Tacoma (that started this whole story) for a spin, and wraps it around a tree. Airbags save his skull, thankfully, but not his ass, which you promptly whoop. Insurance check covers the down payment of the replacement Tacoma, Jr works a summer job to replace the mods, which you make him install, making him a second generation (third?) Taco fan. He learns his lesson, takes “his” Taco with him to collage, where it again attracts the attention of the quality pink tacos thus starting the process all over again... AAAAAND,,,,, Princess prom dress? Remember that? Well, her boyfriend picks her up in a bitchen Tacoma, Wedding dresses are expensive. Jussayin. Worth. Every. Penny.
Lol someone sounds a bit on the bitter side. Its ok. Some of us had to wait until our 50’s to get the Taco bug. I did things in reverse, got married had a kid at 20, built up all the toys slowly over 20+ years of marriage, lost them all in a divorce and slowly over 10 years had to rebuild. Now going through my 2nd 20’s lessons learned and having a ball. So there is still hope.
Or take the money for your marriage and build your dream taco cause that taco will be worth more to you than a pink taco that turns into a roast beef sandwich.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO!! I wish I’d of seen this before I lifted my 2017. Still need my BMC (still rubbing with minimal articulation) also will be checking my break lines today. Thanks Brother!
For a real lift, not spacers, I'd consider uca's a necessary component. If you buy a complete kit, I got mine from wheelers, bilstein 6112/5160 all pro leaf pack, u bolt flip with extended bump stops, longer brake lines (stainless braid) carrier bearing drop, front diff drop on sale for 1,350 dollars, JBA uca 450, that's 1800 bucks for a great suspension lift.I did all the work myself. I've owned this tacoma for 12 years so it owes me nothing, it's like an old friend and I'll never sell it. If your pragmatic it really won't cost much, if you beat the crap out of it expect to pay and pay, but that can be said of anything.
Very useful video. Now I'm going to search your channel for the video about the actual lift. That is what I'm struggling with. I got rear-ended in my taco with the heavy-duty bumper, it moved it, and smashed the mounts, so I'm sure insurance will give me a decent chunk of change. Hoping to apply that to replacement bumper mounts $40, and the rest to a lift. (The bumper has a mark on it, but seems to be completely intact.)
Castor of the front wheels on a lifted vehicle is a pain to fix. I sifted through several wheel alignment shops. Ended up buying a lifetime alignment agreement and adjustable lower control arms . I would adjust the control arm after the alignment and take it back to the shop for a realignment. Did this twice until I got the 4 degree castor I was looking for. This was for a Jeep with live axels, Can't imagine how you deal with castor on a Tacoma....
Excellent info. thanks. I am coming from the jeep wrangler world, where lifting to get 35's or 37's is really easy and cheap. Having said that I don't mind all of the little extras, because I know I am doing it right.
Thank you it was a useful video. I just bought a 2018 4x4 Tacoma. A friend suggested if I wanted something to start he said get some bilsteins for the front and set them at 1 to 1.5inches which would level the front. No need to do anything else. Would this be okay to start off with ? Thanks 👍
Greetings Nick! You can certainly do that but just be aware that on the adjustable Bilsteins when you gain lift by using one of the high settings then you are taking away space for the shock to travel to absorb impacts ... meaning that it's going to make your ride harsher. I'd recommend running some Old Man Emu springs WITH the adjustable Bilsteins but keep the Bilsteins set on the zero (lowest) setting. That way the new springs give you lift without sacrificing ride quality. That's what I'm doing and it rides just like stock.
@@Tacomaholic Awesome channel my good man!!...I'm a newbie and learning as much as possible....I have a 2019 trd off road with the bilsteins...my question is...can i do what you said and put the old man emu springs on my current bilsteins for a little bit of a lift, or do i need the adjustable bils for it to work?
@@br00klyngreek13 Thanks for watching Frank! I've heard of people putting the Old Man Emu springs on the stock Bilsteins that come on the Tacoma, but the ride is really hard. Those factory Bilsteins don't have as much travel as the 5100 Bilsteins so it's almost like preloading them as in the situation mentioned with the adjustable ones.
Outstanding video with excellent information. I am a Jeep guy but I plan on adding a Tacoma TRD Offroad to my garage to keep my 2002 TJ company. Just as with Jeeps (just empty every pocket) anytime you mod one aspect of a vehicle, a lot of additional changes are required. Great channel - subbed! Scott
Hey Great Videos on here! I have a 6” lift and while In 4x4 I get an odd grinding sound only at around1800 RPM when taking my foot off the gas or maintaining that RPM. I brought it into a shop and they ran some test and looked for metal shavings in the crank case and nothing. They just said it’s an anomaly due to the lift. Just wondering if you have another idea and how to get rid of the sound?
I haven't had any experience with actual grinding sounds. Usually it's just vibrations that you experience after a lift. Might want to ask on Tacomaworld about that one.
Great video. I know it's a specific question, but if I want to run around a 3 suspension lift, to get better vehicle clearance and run like 33's, what is a decent price point (moderate parts, nothing insane). The extent of truck use is hunting, maybe 50 miles at a time over moderate rocky terrain. Thank you!
Thanks for this video, it has convinced me to leave my Quicksand '16 TRD OR stock. I put on a set of KM2s, debadged it, and this spring will plastidip the grill and stock wheels black and call it good. A stock Taco OR will do pretty darn good off road. 33s are nice, but IMO, not worth all the mods and money.
@@Tacomaholic That's a possibility. Like a 265/75r16? I know that will make my speedo slightly off, but does that effect the GPS mapping? I wouldn't think so, but I'm not sure. Google was no help lol
@@gusthomas2423 Correct. If you are running the 16" wheels then the next size up at 265/75R16 shouldn't need any trimming to fit. Having a slightly larger tire will affect your speedometer and odometer. For my 285/75R16 tires my speedo reads 70 but I'm really going 75
@@Tacomaholic Guess you could always get this for about $229... www.carid.com/hypertech/in-line-speedometer-calibrator-module-mpn-730123.html?singleid=1386317258&url=88973240
Holy Smokes! Bump stops and brake lines!? I never even considered any of these things. My 2017 TRD Pro was written off by a texting driver rear ending me, so I was in the market for a new truck and came across a pre-owned with a lift. Thanks for potentially saving me a huge headache. Guaranteed the other owner hasn't done any of these things.
Do these factors apply to a 08 tacoma v6 prerunner? Thinking of doing a 3 inch front and 2 inch rear lift so that I can fit 31 inch tires on 17inch wheels .
The UCAs, front/rear bump stops, cab mount chop (if you are getting 33" tires) would be a good idea, and you won't know about needing the vibration stuff until you develop the vibrations.
So can a manual handle this better with the stock gearing? 4.29 I want to go 6” lift and don’t want to have issues with my transmission or being able to get the high mileage capability my taco is known for? I have a 2021 Cement Double Cab Limited TRD Sport 6spd MT 4X4
Great looking setup, Ihave a 2013 jeep Rubicon unlimited lifted 6" on 37's but want a Tacoma trd pro ( It needs a sibling) on jeeps quality lift kits come with everything you just mentioned and more. You get what you pay for, cheaper kits aren't always the best buy.
Hey I saw your Tacoma at Rausch Creek couple months ago! I was in a white FJ Cruiser. I instantly recognized it in this video. Nice video and great channel contributing useful info to the community.
Follow up on remote start install: It is NOT a job for your garage unless you are an experienced electrician. My buddy is a pro, he helped me out. But boyyy it’s sweet. I’ll make a Tacoma world post soon
Body lifts use to be the way to go in the day though no one seems to know how to do them anymore it's all suspension lifts which is very costly & still doesn't give the clearance for the wheel wells for bigger tires.
Man I feel lucky with my lift. 285s dont rub, no vibrations, and wife worked for toyota when I got it all installed. 😀 Edit: As a side note. Headstrong is great. That's where I got mine.
Man, I was wanting to get a ram 1500, but now that I’ve seen how the new tacomas are coming out and the mods that you can do, I’m definitely getting a tacoma. One question for everyone: what version of the tacoma is a good starting point, without regards to budget, and would like to use it for offroading? I’ve seen so many different version at the dealerships that it gets a little overwhelming as far as deciding.
Hope you soon join the Tacoma family Allen! All Tacomas are great but if you know you want to go offroading then I'd recommend the TRD Offroad package. Having that rear locker is golden on the trail.
TRD off-road is best bang for your money I was able to purchase my 2019 for 34 just buy at end of month when there desperate to make numbers. Many TRD pro truck owners end up having to spend the money and lift there’s because they realize they want more ground clearance for off-road anyways. Save the money and lift it your way.
I just lifted mine... On 33's OME 3 inch lift... Lost of good info on this video... So far I am good. But I may need the bump stoppers you mentioned. One thing you forgot to mention (and you did on a separate video) was the drive shaft angle adjustment.
Something to add that happened to me, when changing to different wheels, you might need to get extended wheel studs. I had to change mine to get more turns on my lug nuts
Hey what's up how are you? Are there any side effects from installing just a front leveling kit? What size kit and brand would you recommend? Thank you
@@josephpizzi7505 If you won't be offroading then you could just slap some front spacers on there to lift the front even with the back. Here's an example: amzn.to/2LH18WN
What about re-alinement of your headlights. ...? One thing I hate is those rigs that have been lifted, and of course the owner installs the new super bright headlights. That are great for them, but they shine now directly in the eyes of the rest of us oncoming traffic. So please make sure you get them checked as well. You will benefit from great vision of the road ahead and the knowledge that you are not blinding the other guy in front of you and or on coming towards you.
My Tacoma senses the oncoming vehicles and hundreds of feet before i get close to them, my truck dims they lights until i pass them. Then it turns the high beams back on.
Greetings Bill! Depends on which suspension components you are getting and if you are doing the install yourself. I got my setup with everything mentioned in this vid for right at 3k.
I know enough to know I don’t know enough and should probably leave my Tacoma stock. May re-gear tho at a minimum I’ve heard this has been a great improvement on Transmission in the 3rd gen, and towing that I do.
This was a GREAT vid. Very helpful to get an idea of the “real cost” of lifting is. I knew there was more to the story but you were the one that ‘splained it to me and I thank you!
Thanks for the info. There was a lot I didn't know and having al lthese other considerations in one video is really nice. I'm adding this to favorites in case I need it later.
Lifting your truck does cost money but if you plan do your research and get a lift worth the money then you won't be disappointed and won't have any problems with it.
Boy that is some great info. a person gets focused on "the most perfect lift kit" for their truck and then WHAM blind sided by the other "nickel and dime" attendant costs. Though as it just so happened I lifted my truck for $12.39 and I did all the work my self. OK so the two tree stumps don't look fancy but since my wheels don't touch the ground my gas mileage has gone to 200 mile per gallon...gonna have take it down to stock tomorrow, as my wife needs to go to the store. sigh
You could also do a 2 inch level kit and you could bypass a lot of this but you will need an alignment still. Good video and info if you go that route.
Systems of systems. 😀 Good list.........especially for first order if effects. There is a potential 2nd order of effects list I think. More lift = ability for bigger tires. This may require re-gear. Depending on tire size....may need brake upgrade. Larger brake calipers my drive a need for larger rims.
Don't want to spend to much because once you get started lift then you want big tires and then the axels can't handle it and you need to regear and the list goes on Toyota don't actually have any or build anything heavy enough or engine enough so then you are converting over to different brands of vehicles.
I got an Icon front (adjusted to 2.5in) and rear kit. I noticed that the sides of the tires are wearing out WAYYYYYYY faster than it should.. and again, that is only with a 2.5in lift.... I wish I saw this video before I got the lift.
Yeah I got it aligned twice. Theright part of the tires on both sides are wearing out equally, I’m assuming it’s the camber due to the raise, thus pushing stress on the right sides of the tires
Hey man , great info! Appreciate the knowledge 👍🏼 You should review your buddies tacos or subscribers for content so we can see different wheel n tire set ups and lifts etc...
If you have new vibrations immediately after lifting your truck, dropping the carrier bearing is an inexpensive that helps your driveshaft get back closer to the stock geometry which can help with the vibes.
Greetings Homar! Here are links for the bumps I'm running: Rear: wheelersoffroad.com/i-25490363-wheelers-superbump-bumpstop-pair-for-u-bolt-flip-kits-and-universal-applications-sbmnt-2-uni.html?ref=category:1388944 Front: www.toyotabumpstops.com/index.php/product/2nd-gen-toyota-tacoma-front-bump-stops/
Mmmm actually this isn't true, if your not in a hurry, and shop smart, it's not that expensive. For example, I bought a kit from Wheelers offroad, Bilstein 6112 coilovers, 5160 resi shocks, all pro leaf pack, u bolt flip, extended bump stops, extended braided rear brake lines, center carrier drop, front diff drop $ 1,350 that's with front coilover assembly.I opted for JBA upper control arms, $450 so I'm into it for 1,800 bucks and I installed myself. Oh yeah, alignment was 150 so for under 2 thousand dollars you can get a quality suspension upgrade!
Tacomaholic have you had any problems with your cv axles?? I just lifted mine 3” and blew a boot. I’m not sure if it’s because they are 10 years old or if it was the angle because of the lift..
@@ig243 Its kinda hard to explain but basically when you get bigger tires, you lose performance, and may notice gas mpg decrease. When you regear you improve your gear ratio, which in turn, improves performance. Plese look it up if you are confused.
In short it makes it easier for your transmission to deal with rotating larger tires. After regearing your rpms will get lower and improve your gas mileage.
@@MrJeepguy1974 Thanks Chris! No if you are staying at the stock tire size you'll be fine. You might even be able to jump up to a 265/75R16 without rubbing.
You can safely move up one inch. On my 2019 Sport I went from 265 65 17 to 265 70 17, and people do the same for the offroad model. I just went to the dealership for the complimentary 10k service and free alignment, and they did it all without saying anything about my bigger tires.
I'm also on a tight budget. I think what I"m going to do is get good adjustable shocks, then set the front to 1 inch so that I'm level, and leave the back at 0. Then if one day , years from now, if get more money I can lift the truck and have the shocks already for it. Maybe I'll get Bilstein 6112/5160 or Fox 2.0.
Because they are only focused on what's need to physically lift the truck, not everything else you may need to make the truck run smoothly or as capably as you want after lifting it.
This is depressing! I've been wanting to buy a Tacoma but am now considering not too. I had an old 82 hilux years ago and had a lift with 33s and that little truck went everywhere. I want a new Tacoma with 6in of.lift and 35s with lockers front and rear which will also require a year change. I dont want to spend 35k on a new truck and then 15 k to upgrade it.
Depending on inspector, you might catch flak for your exhaust. You'd have to look up the exact wording, but I believe it has to exit from under the body. It could also be different for trucks. Just wanted to give you a heads up so it wasn't a surprise at inspection time. :)
My CV axle is stock. The ECGS bushing piece used to fix that vibration issue though costs about 50-60 ... plus there is a special tool needed which is another 40.
@@Tacomaholic oh ok, your CV boots looked really new that's why I asked. Had a boot fail in the summer. It would cost $265 for a boot job and $348 for the entire thing replaced. O.o got the entire kit done lol
@@Tacomaholic the thing was that the inner boot tore up.. the labor involved in getting to it was a lot for a $30 boot vs the entire boot/ axle kit replacement. I can't remember the brand but I'll look for the bill and instamessage it to you
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Hi I own a 2006 Toyota Tacoma TRD Sport SR5 Short Box with tow package. So if someone doesn't want to go full on with everything that you mentioned including the suspension lift, body lift or leveling kit for now....but still wants to install a slightly larger tire, from stock 265/70/17 to 285/65/18 on a 18 x 9.5 rim is it really necessary to lift the truck ? Can it not be something as simple as adding for example some 1 or 2 inch spacer extensions front and back from a company like Rough Country ? Or is it not that simple ? Because there's alot of mixed information and suggestions out there that make it so much more difficult to make a decision on what to do. Some videos show adding front and rear extension spacers and done !! And then having an alignment done to make sure you alignment is good to go. Any advice or opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 👍
@@giorgioskaraiskakis9548 It's not necessary to lift fit that size tire but it will require alot of cutting and hammering.
@@Tacomaholic Thank you for the reply, it is greatly appreciated. I will lift it sooner or later just not right now. Possibly in a few months. I just hope I don't rip chunks off of the tires in meantime. Thanks again 👍
Don’t even have a Tacoma yet but I’m taking notes!
I’ve never seen a more effective tool/resource to deter someone from lifting a truck 😂
😂
Next time you go through mods you installed yourself, then it would be cool if you listed all the tools you needed to complete these jobs. If the end, when I consider DIY on this stuff I’m always worried about getting 1/2 through the job only to find out I need a random $500 tool to complete one task, then another $300 tool for another simple task, and so on and so on.
When I do a vid for a specific mod install I go over all the tools needed and even provide links in the video description where you guys can get them. 👍
Amen to that
Wrong. A Tacoma lift will cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Lifting Tacos attracts “pink tacos”.
To play with quality pink tacos requires engagement rings,
Engagement rings leads to weddings,
Weddings leads to mortgages,
Whatcha gunna do with the second (or third) bedroom? Fill ‘em with babies, (surprise! Twins!)
Now you need a minivan, and a third car garage, so you gotta move, again, bigger mortgage,
So now you are working more hours, wife is in the Siena minivan, you in the Camry back and forth to work for the better fuel economy,
Ballet lessons, hockey gear, (Family Health insurance alone is $10,000 per year, without deductibles, unless you work for the government, thanks Obama, )
Next thing you know, Princess needs a Prom dress and Jr. takes your bitchen Tacoma (that started this whole story) for a spin, and wraps it around a tree. Airbags save his skull, thankfully, but not his ass, which you promptly whoop. Insurance check covers the down payment of the replacement Tacoma, Jr works a summer job to replace the mods, which you make him install, making him a second generation (third?) Taco fan. He learns his lesson, takes “his” Taco with him to collage, where it again attracts the attention of the quality pink tacos thus starting the process all over again...
AAAAAND,,,,, Princess prom dress? Remember that? Well, her boyfriend picks her up in a bitchen Tacoma, Wedding dresses are expensive. Jussayin.
Worth. Every. Penny.
Lol someone sounds a bit on the bitter side. Its ok. Some of us had to wait until our 50’s to get the Taco bug. I did things in reverse, got married had a kid at 20, built up all the toys slowly over 20+ years of marriage, lost them all in a divorce and slowly over 10 years had to rebuild. Now going through my 2nd 20’s lessons learned and having a ball. So there is still hope.
Or take the money for your marriage and build your dream taco cause that taco will be worth more to you than a pink taco that turns into a roast beef sandwich.
this is the best comment I have ever read on youtube
So darn true....it’s been a money pit since I lifted my 2016 Tacoma 2” with an Icon Stg 8. Still chasing vibrations, grinding sounds, etc.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO!! I wish I’d of seen this before I lifted my 2017. Still need my BMC (still rubbing with minimal articulation) also will be checking my break lines today. Thanks Brother!
Must be only for 4x4s because I have a 3” lift on my 05 with 275s and have none of these problems.
I’m still rolling with my stock 4x4 Tacoma, ...absolutely no issues, problems or concerns,...
Yep, I'll be keeping my 2016 TRD OR stock.
Lifted?
In addition to new upper control arms and the ECGS bushing, I also installed wheel spacers in the front to move them back out.
Spidertrax spacers?
@@Tacomaholic yes
For a real lift, not spacers, I'd consider uca's a necessary component. If you buy a complete kit, I got mine from wheelers, bilstein 6112/5160 all pro leaf pack, u bolt flip with extended bump stops, longer brake lines (stainless braid) carrier bearing drop, front diff drop on sale for 1,350 dollars, JBA uca 450, that's 1800 bucks for a great suspension lift.I did all the work myself. I've owned this tacoma for 12 years so it owes me nothing, it's like an old friend and I'll never sell it. If your pragmatic it really won't cost much, if you beat the crap out of it expect to pay and pay, but that can be said of anything.
Very useful video. Now I'm going to search your channel for the video about the actual lift. That is what I'm struggling with. I got rear-ended in my taco with the heavy-duty bumper, it moved it, and smashed the mounts, so I'm sure insurance will give me a decent chunk of change. Hoping to apply that to replacement bumper mounts $40, and the rest to a lift. (The bumper has a mark on it, but seems to be completely intact.)
I always wanted to lift my truck but seems more money and headache to it. I just keep mine stock. Get beefier tires 265/75/17
Was already on a budget getting my 5100 lift set up and now I have anxiety 😂
I did the 5100s- i stayed at 2” to stay away from some of those issues
Castor of the front wheels on a lifted vehicle is a pain to fix. I sifted through several wheel alignment shops. Ended up buying a lifetime alignment agreement and adjustable lower control arms . I would adjust the control arm after the alignment and take it back to the shop for a realignment. Did this twice until I got the 4 degree castor I was looking for. This was for a Jeep with live axels, Can't imagine how you deal with castor on a Tacoma....
Excellent info. thanks. I am coming from the jeep wrangler world, where lifting to get 35's or 37's is really easy and cheap. Having said that I don't mind all of the little extras, because I know I am doing it right.
Thank you it was a useful video. I just bought a 2018 4x4 Tacoma. A friend suggested if I wanted something to start he said get some bilsteins for the front and set them at 1 to 1.5inches which would level the front. No need to do anything else. Would this be okay to start off with ? Thanks 👍
Greetings Nick! You can certainly do that but just be aware that on the adjustable Bilsteins when you gain lift by using one of the high settings then you are taking away space for the shock to travel to absorb impacts ... meaning that it's going to make your ride harsher. I'd recommend running some Old Man Emu springs WITH the adjustable Bilsteins but keep the Bilsteins set on the zero (lowest) setting. That way the new springs give you lift without sacrificing ride quality. That's what I'm doing and it rides just like stock.
@@Tacomaholic Awesome channel my good man!!...I'm a newbie and learning as much as possible....I have a 2019 trd off road with the bilsteins...my question is...can i do what you said and put the old man emu springs on my current bilsteins for a little bit of a lift, or do i need the adjustable bils for it to work?
@@br00klyngreek13 Thanks for watching Frank! I've heard of people putting the Old Man Emu springs on the stock Bilsteins that come on the Tacoma, but the ride is really hard. Those factory Bilsteins don't have as much travel as the 5100 Bilsteins so it's almost like preloading them as in the situation mentioned with the adjustable ones.
I can tell you first hand, just from the title this is true
Outstanding video with excellent information. I am a Jeep guy but I plan on adding a Tacoma TRD Offroad to my garage to keep my 2002 TJ company. Just as with Jeeps (just empty every pocket) anytime you mod one aspect of a vehicle, a lot of additional changes are required. Great channel - subbed!
Scott
Thanks for watching and the sub Scott!
@@Tacomaholic Keep producing great videos and stay safe on the trails. I will have offroading vids up on my channel soon.
Scott
Hey Great Videos on here!
I have a 6” lift and while In 4x4 I get an odd grinding sound only at around1800 RPM when taking my foot off the gas or maintaining that RPM.
I brought it into a shop and they ran some test and looked for metal shavings in the crank case and nothing. They just said it’s an anomaly due to the lift.
Just wondering if you have another idea and how to get rid of the sound?
I haven't had any experience with actual grinding sounds. Usually it's just vibrations that you experience after a lift. Might want to ask on Tacomaworld about that one.
Needle bearing
Great video. I know it's a specific question, but if I want to run around a 3 suspension lift, to get better vehicle clearance and run like 33's, what is a decent price point (moderate parts, nothing insane). The extent of truck use is hunting, maybe 50 miles at a time over moderate rocky terrain. Thank you!
A Bilstein 5100 front year setup with Old Man Emu coils up front and dakars in the back, + aftermarket UCAs should be around 1500.
Thanks for this video, it has convinced me to leave my Quicksand '16 TRD OR stock. I put on a set of KM2s, debadged it, and this spring will plastidip the grill and stock wheels black and call it good. A stock Taco OR will do pretty darn good off road. 33s are nice, but IMO, not worth all the mods and money.
Thanks for watching Gus! You could always go to 32" tires without having fitment issues.
@@Tacomaholic That's a possibility. Like a 265/75r16? I know that will make my speedo slightly off, but does that effect the GPS mapping? I wouldn't think so, but I'm not sure. Google was no help lol
@@gusthomas2423 Correct. If you are running the 16" wheels then the next size up at 265/75R16 shouldn't need any trimming to fit. Having a slightly larger tire will affect your speedometer and odometer. For my 285/75R16 tires my speedo reads 70 but I'm really going 75
@@Tacomaholic Guess you could always get this for about $229... www.carid.com/hypertech/in-line-speedometer-calibrator-module-mpn-730123.html?singleid=1386317258&url=88973240
Tacomaholic Unfortunately most 265/75R16 AT tires are load range E. Have to switch to 17” wheel for load range C.
Holy Smokes! Bump stops and brake lines!? I never even considered any of these things. My 2017 TRD Pro was written off by a texting driver rear ending me, so I was in the market for a new truck and came across a pre-owned with a lift. Thanks for potentially saving me a huge headache. Guaranteed the other owner hasn't done any of these things.
Thanks for watching!
Do these factors apply to a 08 tacoma v6 prerunner? Thinking of doing a 3 inch front and 2 inch rear lift so that I can fit 31 inch tires on 17inch wheels .
The UCAs, front/rear bump stops, cab mount chop (if you are getting 33" tires) would be a good idea, and you won't know about needing the vibration stuff until you develop the vibrations.
So can a manual handle this better with the stock gearing? 4.29 I want to go 6” lift and don’t want to have issues with my transmission or being able to get the high mileage capability my taco is known for? I have a 2021 Cement Double Cab Limited TRD Sport 6spd MT 4X4
Can a manual transmission handle what better?
Tacomaholic avoiding regearing If I go with a 4” to 6” lift
@@threadoflife The need for a regear is dependent more on your tire size.
Great looking setup, Ihave a 2013 jeep Rubicon unlimited lifted 6" on 37's but want a Tacoma trd pro ( It needs a sibling) on jeeps quality lift kits come with everything you just mentioned and more. You get what you pay for, cheaper kits aren't always the best buy.
Hey I saw your Tacoma at Rausch Creek couple months ago! I was in a white FJ Cruiser. I instantly recognized it in this video. Nice video and great channel contributing useful info to the community.
Ha ha awesome buddy! I need to get back to Rausch soon.
Will the Gen3 TRD PRO suspension fit my Gen2 TRD PRO and if yes, is it direct bolt on?
I think I've seen some guys do that but not sure what was involved.
Follow up on remote start install:
It is NOT a job for your garage unless you are an experienced electrician. My buddy is a pro, he helped me out. But boyyy it’s sweet. I’ll make a Tacoma world post soon
Thanks for the update!
Good info!
Can you fit a full size spare in the OEM location with this tire size?
A 33" spare will fit in the factory location but might require hammering back the support tabs that hold the tire in place.
Body lifts use to be the way to go in the day though no one seems to know how to do them anymore it's all suspension lifts which is very costly & still doesn't give the clearance for the wheel wells for bigger tires.
For body lifts though the components aren't expensive but the labor is if you don't know how to install it yourself.
Man I feel lucky with my lift. 285s dont rub, no vibrations, and wife worked for toyota when I got it all installed. 😀
Edit: As a side note. Headstrong is great. That's where I got mine.
Headstrong for the win! And yeah you got really lucky your 285s don't rub.
@@Tacomaholic bought the cab mount chop. Still in the box from relentless fab. Maybe one day I'll do it just because. Figured I'd get it just in case.
That's smart. My tires rubbed BIG TIME but thankfully the drive home from the tire shop was relatively straight.
Man, I was wanting to get a ram 1500, but now that I’ve seen how the new tacomas are coming out and the mods that you can do, I’m definitely getting a tacoma. One question for everyone: what version of the tacoma is a good starting point, without regards to budget, and would like to use it for offroading? I’ve seen so many different version at the dealerships that it gets a little overwhelming as far as deciding.
Hope you soon join the Tacoma family Allen! All Tacomas are great but if you know you want to go offroading then I'd recommend the TRD Offroad package. Having that rear locker is golden on the trail.
Get the trd pro. Already has all the mods and a snorkel, all factory. The only thing I would suggest is getting beefier tires.
TRD off-road is best bang for your money I was able to purchase my 2019 for 34 just buy at end of month when there desperate to make numbers. Many TRD pro truck owners end up having to spend the money and lift there’s because they realize they want more ground clearance for off-road anyways. Save the money and lift it your way.
I just lifted mine... On 33's OME 3 inch lift... Lost of good info on this video... So far I am good. But I may need the bump stoppers you mentioned. One thing you forgot to mention (and you did on a separate video) was the drive shaft angle adjustment.
Good advice I wanna lift and do all the fun stuff, but I know I will be on a budget soon so I have to go conservative when I pull the trigger
Something to add that happened to me, when changing to different wheels, you might need to get extended wheel studs. I had to change mine to get more turns on my lug nuts
What wheels are you running now?
@@Tacomaholic Venomrex VR-602 17x8
Excellent video. Super informative. I like how it’s about all the “extras”. Thanks.
Thanks David!
Hey what's up how are you? Are there any side effects from installing just a front leveling kit? What size kit and brand would you recommend? Thank you
Hey buddy! Side effects should be the same as a full (front/rear) lift. Do you plan on offroading?
@@Tacomaholic no I just wanna change the look and stance. I'm running stock wheels and tires also p265 70 16
@@josephpizzi7505 If you won't be offroading then you could just slap some front spacers on there to lift the front even with the back. Here's an example: amzn.to/2LH18WN
Don't forget about the portable step-stool for Grandma.
Thanks. I have had no problem with vibration, but good to know the fixes anyway.
I put in the ECGS bushing when I got my truck, what a pita. Glad I got it out of the way though.
JoshuaBrah might as well. If you lift then the likely the needle bearing will go out. Don’t ask me how I know....2016 Tacoma OffRoad 4x4 here...😤
What about re-alinement of your headlights. ...? One thing I hate is those rigs that have been lifted, and of course the owner installs the new super bright headlights. That are great for them, but they shine now directly in the eyes of the rest of us oncoming traffic. So please make sure you get them checked as well. You will benefit from great vision of the road ahead and the knowledge that you are not blinding the other guy in front of you and or on coming towards you.
Absolutely! I did a vid covering how to do that here: ua-cam.com/video/xegbcyG0kXI/v-deo.html
My Tacoma senses the oncoming vehicles and hundreds of feet before i get close to them, my truck dims they lights until i pass them. Then it turns the high beams back on.
I know this is an old video, but at what lift height would you normally start getting vibrations?
It's different for everyone but probably around 3".
What backspacing do you recommend in order to have your 33's stick out past the fenders to avoid having to use spacers?
3.5 Backspacing gives some good poke
What lift do you have on the truck?
Currently I have a 3" suspension + 1" body lift.
I haven’t drove one, but how is the power on it? Does it feel like it takes off the line when needed.
It's not a total slug, but Tacomas aren't known for their power.
@@Tacomaholic My only thing is, we get snow and everything. So I want to make sure it has more than enough power when needed.
@@zerokool-2058 Good tires will help with the snow.
I'm thinking of lifting my 06 TRD sport, just wondering what is the total cost of everything you mentioned..
Greetings Bill! Depends on which suspension components you are getting and if you are doing the install yourself. I got my setup with everything mentioned in this vid for right at 3k.
Hi uncle Bill!
I know enough to know I don’t know enough and should probably leave my Tacoma stock. May re-gear tho at a minimum I’ve heard this has been a great improvement on Transmission in the 3rd gen, and towing that I do.
Have you heard about the OV Tune for the 3rd gen? That's a great option to improve the trans in them.
Tacomaholic definitely have heard of that I’m assuming your talking about the programming, was checking out Nitro gears as an option.
@@vegpwrshlominator1873 Yeah I've heard good things about it.
This was a GREAT vid. Very helpful to get an idea of the “real cost” of lifting is. I knew there was more to the story but you were the one that ‘splained it to me and I thank you!
Glad the video helped Rob and thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info. There was a lot I didn't know and having al lthese other considerations in one video is really nice. I'm adding this to favorites in case I need it later.
Awesome, thanks for watching John!
Lifting your truck does cost money but if you plan do your research and get a lift worth the money then you won't be disappointed and won't have any problems with it.
I have the headstrong lift, and I'm feeling s vibe when I first take off up to about 10-15 mph...maybe I need the leaf spring wedge?
Yeah the axle shim might help your vibes. The carrier bearing drop kit might help too. 👍
Is this necessary if I'm only lifting my 2nd gen Tacoma around 2 inches with Bilstein's and adding leaf springs?
Are you asking about UCAs?
i dont think so, mines around 1.5" and mines fine but i do need an alignment done
Yes^
Great video and thanks for the useful information 👍🏻💯
Thanks buddy!
So do we need to worry about getting longer brake lines if we only lifting 3"?
Usually in the rear it's a good idea to get longer break lines. You can slowly lower the rear suspension to see how much slack you have in the lines.
Thanks! Nice lookin truck ya got there.
Love the channel. Im in RVa and am about to sell my hilux tho get a gen2 taco. Keep it up!
Thanks so much for watching! What years is your Hilux?
@@Tacomaholic 94 22re
@@Tacomaholic I really really want to keep her. But that would just not be practical.
Got any pics I could see?
@@Tacomaholic dirty ones lol
Boy that is some great info. a person gets focused on "the most perfect lift kit" for their truck and then WHAM blind sided by the other "nickel and dime" attendant costs.
Though as it just so happened I lifted my truck for $12.39 and I did all the work my self. OK so the two tree stumps don't look fancy but since my wheels don't touch the ground my gas mileage has gone to 200 mile per gallon...gonna have take it down to stock tomorrow, as my wife needs to go to the store. sigh
The good thing about using tree stumps is that you won't have to worry about rust. 😀
You could also do a 2 inch level kit and you could bypass a lot of this but you will need an alignment still.
Good video and info if you go that route.
so can you do a level instead under 3 inches and not have to swap the ucas
I am getting a 2" leveling kit installed for for my' 22 TRD Sport in a couple weeks. Is it recommended to do this procedure as well or not?
Yes number 4. Getting better at this lol. Now time to watch
Newer 3rd gen 4x4s also require a front diff drop kit. ToyTec sells them for like $30.
Diff drop kits are iffy. I've seen tons of info discussing how they do more harm than good.
@@Tacomaholic Interesting, I hadn't heard that.
How’s the ride quality for the passengers in the back? Anyone know?
I don't carry passengers in the backseat .. but I've never heard of others mentioned their passengers complaining.
@@Tacomaholic Thanks man.
Systems of systems. 😀
Good list.........especially for first order if effects.
There is a potential 2nd order of effects list I think. More lift = ability for bigger tires. This may require re-gear. Depending on tire size....may need brake upgrade. Larger brake calipers my drive a need for larger rims.
Thanks buddy! Yep the 2nd order gets expensive quickly.
Don't want to spend to much because once you get started lift then you want big tires and then the axels can't handle it and you need to regear and the list goes on Toyota don't actually have any or build anything heavy enough or engine enough so then you are converting over to different brands of vehicles.
jack hook An excellent point, one thing leads to another.
I got an Icon front (adjusted to 2.5in) and rear kit. I noticed that the sides of the tires are wearing out WAYYYYYYY faster than it should.. and again, that is only with a 2.5in lift.... I wish I saw this video before I got the lift.
Have you checked your alignment?
Yeah I got it aligned twice. Theright part of the tires on both sides are wearing out equally, I’m assuming it’s the camber due to the raise, thus pushing stress on the right sides of the tires
Hey man , great info! Appreciate the knowledge 👍🏼
You should review your buddies tacos or subscribers for content so we can see different wheel n tire set ups and lifts etc...
Thanks man!
What are the indicators that the carrier bearing needs to be lowered?
If you have new vibrations immediately after lifting your truck, dropping the carrier bearing is an inexpensive that helps your driveshaft get back closer to the stock geometry which can help with the vibes.
Need the link to the front bumpstops
Here ya go: www.toyotabumpstops.com/index.php/product/2nd-gen-toyota-tacoma-front-bump-stops/
What kind of taillights do you have there on your taco?
Got them made by a guy on Tacomaworld.
@@Tacomaholic How tall is the bed rack?
@@237311 18" if I remember correctly.
Looks bad assed, time to change the gearing.
I wonder if thats a wrap or satin finish paint.
Matte orange vinyl wrap.
Dont forget about a swaybar relocation kit. ~$40
Definitely a good idea if you are running a swaybar.
What would you recommend for a 2019 tss Tacoma rwd
Plan on offroading or is the lift just for looks?
Very useful video
I hate planes..... hahaha!
Can the CV vibe happen even if you’re not lifted ?
I would think it could but would have to result from regular wear and tear so it shouldn't happen for a long(er) time.
It's possible if you do a lot of offroading. I had issues 5000 miles after I did the lift. I had 120000 on the truck before it.
Anyone know what shocks/coilovers he’s running in this vid?
This was my first suspension setup which was Bilstein 5100s up front and Bilstein B110 in the rear.
Where can I buy those front and rear bump stops?
Greetings Homar! Here are links for the bumps I'm running:
Rear: wheelersoffroad.com/i-25490363-wheelers-superbump-bumpstop-pair-for-u-bolt-flip-kits-and-universal-applications-sbmnt-2-uni.html?ref=category:1388944
Front: www.toyotabumpstops.com/index.php/product/2nd-gen-toyota-tacoma-front-bump-stops/
All reasons I've yet to lift my truck. Hopefully next year though!
Do you know which setup you are going with yet?
I love airplanes
im assuming "vibes" means vibrations? Can you please just say vibrations?
Thanks for the great information.
Mmmm actually this isn't true, if your not in a hurry, and shop smart, it's not that expensive. For example, I bought a kit from Wheelers offroad, Bilstein 6112 coilovers, 5160 resi shocks, all pro leaf pack, u bolt flip, extended bump stops, extended braided rear brake lines, center carrier drop, front diff drop $ 1,350 that's with front coilover assembly.I opted for JBA upper control arms, $450 so I'm into it for 1,800 bucks and I installed myself. Oh yeah, alignment was 150 so for under 2 thousand dollars you can get a quality suspension upgrade!
Where did you order it from ?
Thanks for the great information. love the Channel!!👍
What do you think about good year dura trac tire's?
Thanks Jason! The Duratracs seem ok for traction but it seems some people have a hard time getting them properly balanced.
Do you have a diff drop?
No, after reading around on Tacomaworld it doesn't seem that they are necessary and can do some harm.
Tacomaholic have you had any problems with your cv axles?? I just lifted mine 3” and blew a boot. I’m not sure if it’s because they are 10 years old or if it was the angle because of the lift..
Did you regear when you upgraded tire size?
Not for 33" tires but I will if I go up to 35s.
What exactly means happens when you regear?
@@ig243 Its kinda hard to explain but basically when you get bigger tires, you lose performance, and may notice gas mpg decrease. When you regear you improve your gear ratio, which in turn, improves performance. Plese look it up if you are confused.
In short it makes it easier for your transmission to deal with rotating larger tires. After regearing your rpms will get lower and improve your gas mileage.
Guess I’m staying stock and just going with a stock size mud terrain........
Always and option and a good economical way to improve offroad performance.
Nice truck btw- have you seen any problems with going with a stock size tire but a mud terrain with rubbing?
@@MrJeepguy1974 Thanks Chris! No if you are staying at the stock tire size you'll be fine. You might even be able to jump up to a 265/75R16 without rubbing.
You can safely move up one inch. On my 2019 Sport I went from 265 65 17 to 265 70 17, and people do the same for the offroad model. I just went to the dealership for the complimentary 10k service and free alignment, and they did it all without saying anything about my bigger tires.
I'm also on a tight budget. I think what I"m going to do is get good adjustable shocks, then set the front to 1 inch so that I'm level, and leave the back at 0. Then if one day , years from now, if get more money I can lift the truck and have the shocks already for it. Maybe I'll get Bilstein 6112/5160 or Fox 2.0.
I got a 2017 Tacoma the Toyota shop they can put a 3/2 ready lift on for about $800 that’s the lift and put it on
Mark Bulluck what Toyota shop?
Dam just get a leveling kit should run for no more than $500 and I’m in west Texas... should add about a 2 inch lift
THE Toyota shop bro
Wtf that scream got me in so much trouble...dude my parents are sleeping shhhhhh🤦🏽♂️
If I need these extras why do they say “complete” lift kits?
Because they are only focused on what's need to physically lift the truck, not everything else you may need to make the truck run smoothly or as capably as you want after lifting it.
They are true money grabbers.
@@shiftstart Having a Tacoma encourages that kind of behavior. 😀
Thanks 👍
Very good video
What kind of axe do have?
I've got a few from Fiskars. This larger one ( amzn.to/3sbifnn ) and this hatchet ( amzn.to/3abP1OO )
Well I did think about getting a Tacoma but geeze
Oh it's like that for lifting anything.
Welp not lifting my trd pro
What kind of lift do you have?
I'm running a Bilstein/Old Man Emu combo right now.
Front: 5100 shocks with 887 springs, SPC Light Racing UCAs
Rear: B110 shocks with dakars
This is depressing! I've been wanting to buy a Tacoma but am now considering not too. I had an old 82 hilux years ago and had a lift with 33s and that little truck went everywhere. I want a new Tacoma with 6in of.lift and 35s with lockers front and rear which will also require a year change. I dont want to spend 35k on a new truck and then 15 k to upgrade it.
Good info! Thanks
Depending on inspector, you might catch flak for your exhaust. You'd have to look up the exact wording, but I believe it has to exit from under the body. It could also be different for trucks. Just wanted to give you a heads up so it wasn't a surprise at inspection time. :)
Thanks for the heads up and I've heard of that. I've got some very lax inspection places where I live so I'm good so far. 👍
It's always good to know an inspector or two!
How much did you pay for the CV axle?
My CV axle is stock. The ECGS bushing piece used to fix that vibration issue though costs about 50-60 ... plus there is a special tool needed which is another 40.
@@Tacomaholic oh ok, your CV boots looked really new that's why I asked. Had a boot fail in the summer. It would cost $265 for a boot job and $348 for the entire thing replaced. O.o got the entire kit done lol
Wow I thought those boot kits were cheaper than that. Where did you get yours?
@@Tacomaholic the thing was that the inner boot tore up.. the labor involved in getting to it was a lot for a $30 boot vs the entire boot/ axle kit replacement. I can't remember the brand but I'll look for the bill and instamessage it to you
where can I get this part and tool? BTW this channel is awesome.
@@Tacomaholic