Thanks for the deep dive into the origins of one of my favorite Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies antagonists. Here, I'm narrowing it down to the _real_ Fudd, and by that I mean the one in the hunter's outfit, normal colored nose, and with voice supplied by Me Blanc--for me that's the definitive one. One thing I haven't discovered yet is how they came up with the name Elmer Fudd, which I think is a great cartoon name. Here I've come up with two conjectures for the last name: 1) it's borrowed from the now dated slang term "fuddy-duddy", which was used to depict a stick-in-the-mud conformist or 2) the one I like better, it's a shortening of "befuddle," which means _to confuse,_ a state of mind he often found himself in thanks to Bugs Bunny's trickery!
There were actually two different characters, Egghead and "Egghead's brother". They're shown as different characters in publicity material. Egghead usually has a full head of black hair with a "bowl" haircut (except in "Egghead Rides Again", in which he's bald), always has wide-open eyes, and is featured prominently in the cartoons he's in: "Egghead Rides Again" "Daffy Duck and Egghead" "A Lad In Bagdad" "Count Me Out" "Egghead's brother" is always bald, always has squinty eyes, and pops in and out throughout the cartoons he's in: "Little Red Walking Hood" "The Isle of Pingo Pongo" "Cinderella Meets A Fella" "A Feud There Was" "Johnny Smith and Poker Huntas" "Hamateur Night" "A Day at the Zoo" "Believe It Or Else" "Egghead's brother" is the one who evolved into Elmer Fudd. In addition to the sign on the motor scooter in "A Feud There Was", the lobby card for "The Isle of Pingo Pongo" says "A Merrie Melodie Featuring ELMER". You can definitely see the transition in "Elmer's Candid Camera". Elmer has Arthur Q. Bryan's voice but is still dressed like "Egghead's brother": high collar, green coat, and a smaller derby than the one Elmer Fudd would later wear. The character design is pretty much finalized in "A Wild Hare" except for the red nose. (I can't remember if this is the only (vintage) cartoon in which Elmer Fudd has a red nose.) (And for the record, I think that the rabbit in "Porky's Hare Hunt", Hare-Um Scare-Um" and "Elmer's Candid Camera" and Bugs Bunny are different characters. The animation historian/collector "Sogturtle" wrote a great (fictional) story in which the two rabbits are different characters.)
After examining the origins of another Bob Clampett cartoon character by sight, it looks as if with the hat, coat, red nose, scruffy beard, closed eyes/mouth grin (most of the time) and the way the character is off dressed to be a sea captain, the results would be the Captain Huffenpuff of the Leakin' Lena on Beany and Cecil in 1962.
"I am Elmer J Fudd, Millionaire! I own a mansion and a yacht!" Egghead didn't have the vocal ticks that Elmer later had, so I don't think I would have seen any real connection between the characters. I read that the earliest appearance of Elmer was intended to resemble Arthur Q Bryan since he originated the character. Then, after Bryan passed away, Mel Blanc was asked to take over. Forever uncomfortable mimicking someone else's performance, Blanc did it slightly differently, and I think deemphasizing the vocal tick. It was still there, of course, but not as overpowering as Bryan performed it. And, of course, they slimmed Elmer down significantly. That was the pattern I always thought Warners followed, but it's been a while. "I may be a skewy wabbit, but I'm not gowin to Alcatwaz!"
The old cartoons were much much better than the crap that’s on tv now days. I watch a lot of the older tv shows now days. Black & White tv is good also. I subscribed 🔔
Mel Blanc’s Elmer Fudd voice SUCKED and he knew it. A couple of the later Fudds were MUCH better. Even my pal, the late Hal Smith did a better Elmer than Blanc did.
I think Mel was great , but his voice did change I think after his accident. He didn't like his own Elmer voice though. Hal Smith is another favorite of mine. I always love it when I recognize his voice on a cartoon. Some people have voices just made for cartoons.😀
@@tvcrazymanI think all those years of smoking also affected Mel Blanc's voice in his later years. In the Bugs Bunny TV specials from the 1970's and the 1980's, you can definitely tell the difference in the newly recorded lines, especially Bugs and Pepe Le Pew. (It's not as noticeable with the voices that were sped up like Daffy, Porky, Tweety and Speedy Gonzales.)
Awesome 🎉 Thanks You talk like my sister and I 🥰Do you say middens instead of mittens? I have old mutt and Jeff cartoons Betty Boop there getting harder to find on DVD My grandkids like the older cartoons better 😂🥰 I know we'll keep watching 🥰🙏🏻🤣😂🎉🥳
May your definition of "for modern audiences" be posted in the dictionary. And for the illustrated dictionary it should show a side by side. On the left, a "Modern Audience" of side shaved blue haired nose ringed tattooed women and scrawny men in a theater audience, and no more than five seats filled, and on the right, a "traditional audience" with the stock photo from the 1930s where the theater has no empty seats and people are dressed up.
While this us a ncie video i disagree of what you said about ltc i love violent and goofy ltc is and also the shorts are inspired by by bob clampett and tex avery shorts which makes even more interesting and also i really like screwbal daffy and i am glad that they bought him back
I never liked the fat/red nosed Elmer. And as far as Daffy Duck goes, I always liked the screwball Daffy over the greedy, obnoxious, hateful Daffy of later years.
I wasn't aware of Elmer before "A Wild Hare." I learned something today. Thank you so much. I love old cartoons.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for the deep dive into the origins of one of my favorite Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies antagonists. Here, I'm narrowing it down to the _real_ Fudd, and by that I mean the one in the hunter's outfit, normal colored nose, and with voice supplied by Me Blanc--for me that's the definitive one.
One thing I haven't discovered yet is how they came up with the name Elmer Fudd, which I think is a great cartoon name. Here I've come up with two conjectures for the last name: 1) it's borrowed from the now dated slang term "fuddy-duddy", which was used to depict a stick-in-the-mud conformist or 2) the one I like better, it's a shortening of "befuddle," which means _to confuse,_ a state of mind he often found himself in thanks to Bugs Bunny's trickery!
That makes sense to me. Appreciate the comments.
@Galantski I've read that the source of the name was a song (I can't remember the name) with lyrics that include "your Uncle Fudd".
There were actually two different characters, Egghead and "Egghead's brother". They're shown as different characters in publicity material.
Egghead usually has a full head of black hair with a "bowl" haircut (except in "Egghead Rides Again", in which he's bald), always has wide-open eyes, and is featured prominently in the cartoons he's in:
"Egghead Rides Again"
"Daffy Duck and Egghead"
"A Lad In Bagdad"
"Count Me Out"
"Egghead's brother" is always bald, always has squinty eyes, and pops in and out throughout the cartoons he's in:
"Little Red Walking Hood"
"The Isle of Pingo Pongo"
"Cinderella Meets A Fella"
"A Feud There Was"
"Johnny Smith and Poker Huntas"
"Hamateur Night"
"A Day at the Zoo"
"Believe It Or Else"
"Egghead's brother" is the one who evolved into Elmer Fudd. In addition to the sign on the motor scooter in "A Feud There Was", the lobby card for "The Isle of Pingo Pongo" says "A Merrie Melodie Featuring ELMER". You can definitely see the transition in "Elmer's Candid Camera". Elmer has Arthur Q. Bryan's voice but is still dressed like "Egghead's brother": high collar, green coat, and a smaller derby than the one Elmer Fudd would later wear. The character design is pretty much finalized in "A Wild Hare" except for the red nose. (I can't remember if this is the only (vintage) cartoon in which Elmer Fudd has a red nose.)
(And for the record, I think that the rabbit in "Porky's Hare Hunt", Hare-Um Scare-Um" and "Elmer's Candid Camera" and Bugs Bunny are different characters. The animation historian/collector "Sogturtle" wrote a great (fictional) story in which the two rabbits are different characters.)
Thanks, very interesting.
Unexpected and FUN!! Keep up the good work 🎉
Thank you!! 😁
I hope you all enjoy this look at classic Elmer and all his variations. I haven't done a cartoon facts video for the Tvcrazyman channel in a while.
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I love cartoons , i watch them everyday. On UA-cam and on my TV . Enjoyed Elmer” history and background info . 👍🤪❤
The is just to funny I just love Bugs Bunny and Elemer Fudd when I was a kid really great job on this video
Thanks, I appreciate it.
After examining the origins of another Bob Clampett cartoon character by sight, it looks as if with the hat, coat, red nose, scruffy beard, closed eyes/mouth grin (most of the time) and the way the character is off dressed to be a sea captain, the results would be the Captain Huffenpuff of the Leakin' Lena on Beany and Cecil in 1962.
Loved these cartoons as a kid my favourite ones was Hong-Kong phooey & whacky racers oh & Road runner 😀
Me too. I was crazy about cartoons. I got up at 6:30 in the morning to watch Casper re-runs before the new cartoon line-up started.
I Like That Early Elmer Because I Like How His Drawing Shape Is. Clearly I Like To Draw Early Elmer.
"I am Elmer J Fudd, Millionaire! I own a mansion and a yacht!"
Egghead didn't have the vocal ticks that Elmer later had, so I don't think I would have seen any real connection between the characters. I read that the earliest appearance of Elmer was intended to resemble Arthur Q Bryan since he originated the character. Then, after Bryan passed away, Mel Blanc was asked to take over. Forever uncomfortable mimicking someone else's performance, Blanc did it slightly differently, and I think deemphasizing the vocal tick. It was still there, of course, but not as overpowering as Bryan performed it. And, of course, they slimmed Elmer down significantly. That was the pattern I always thought Warners followed, but it's been a while.
"I may be a skewy wabbit, but I'm not gowin to Alcatwaz!"
I kind of wonder if they would have started with the overweight Elmer, if audiences would have chose that one over the skinny one.
I love this! 💕
Great childhood memories 😆💙
The old cartoons were much much better than the crap that’s on tv now days. I watch a lot of the older tv shows now days.
Black & White tv is good also. I subscribed 🔔
He was My Mother's Favorite Looney Tunes Character
I love Elmer fudd I'm hunting wabbitt shhh they changed Elmer over the years love me some Looney tunes love the history
Im Elmer Fudd, millionaire, I own a mansion and a yacht
That was a good one.
@@tvcrazyman I knew someone would remember that one.
AT 1:28, I caught the license plate says "HELLO" with numbers.. (07734)
.. did you?
I been know about Elmer for years so is bugs bunny
My favorite cartoon characters… after Snoopy.
Mel Blanc’s Elmer Fudd voice SUCKED and he knew it. A couple of the later Fudds were MUCH better. Even my pal, the late Hal Smith did a better Elmer than Blanc did.
I think Mel was great , but his voice did change I think after his accident. He didn't like his own Elmer voice though. Hal Smith is another favorite of mine. I always love it when I recognize his voice on a cartoon. Some people have voices just made for cartoons.😀
@@tvcrazymanI think all those years of smoking also affected Mel Blanc's voice in his later years. In the Bugs Bunny TV specials from the 1970's and the 1980's, you can definitely tell the difference in the newly recorded lines, especially Bugs and Pepe Le Pew. (It's not as noticeable with the voices that were sped up like Daffy, Porky, Tweety and Speedy Gonzales.)
Awesome 🎉 Thanks
You talk like my sister and I 🥰Do you say middens instead of mittens? I have old mutt and Jeff cartoons Betty Boop there getting harder to find on DVD My grandkids like the older cartoons better 😂🥰 I know we'll keep watching 🥰🙏🏻🤣😂🎉🥳
Glad you enjoyed it.😀
May your definition of "for modern audiences" be posted in the dictionary. And for the illustrated dictionary it should show a side by side. On the left, a "Modern Audience" of side shaved blue haired nose ringed tattooed women and scrawny men in a theater audience, and no more than five seats filled, and on the right, a "traditional audience" with the stock photo from the 1930s where the theater has no empty seats and people are dressed up.
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The newer version was crap. The older animation is far better.
While this us a ncie video i disagree of what you said about ltc i love violent and goofy ltc is and also the shorts are inspired by by bob clampett and tex avery shorts which makes even more interesting and also i really like screwbal daffy and i am glad that they bought him back
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FAT ELMER WAS THE BEST! 😊
I never liked the fat/red nosed Elmer. And as far as Daffy Duck goes, I always liked the screwball Daffy over the greedy, obnoxious, hateful Daffy of later years.
I think I grew up more with greedy Daffy, and the hunter trilogy with Elmer, Bugs, and Daffy still makes me laugh to this day.