Very cool project and thank you for sharing you actually answered several questions about the installation. Now I'm not as worried about doing our install now.
Very detailed. Been on the fence about these. Did I miss the hole for the speaker wire to the basement? Trying to figure out how to get the wires inside so I don’t have to leave the amp outside
The indoor part, is that where the actual power is generated from? Just plug that box into a reg outlet I am assuming? No other electric source needed? No receiver either since it’s directly from your phone? How many speakers did you eventually run through the whole house
So are the outdoor Sonos speakers “dumb speakers” and the amp is what has the brains? Unlike the indoor that have their own microphone where you can control them speaking to them? Was hoping for a setup I could control by voice and connect to tv with Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.
Correct, my outdoor speakers are just speakers … dumb…. My Inside Sonos speakers are also dumb, all the brains are in the Sonos AMPs. You can control the amps via Alexa but I usually use my phone then Apple Watch.
I have a bluetooth receiver inside with 2 wired speakers. I want to add wireless speakers outside so I can listen to the same music inside and out without the Sonos app. Is that possible?
yes, I had this at old house. what is did was 1. alexa with output plugged into Amp 2. Amp connected to speaker switch (this allowed me to manually turn each speaker on or off) i had four 3. all speaker connected to switch .... worked great actually ... assuming you can get wires everywhere. controlled via alexa inside and phone outside.
@@FamilyDIYtv are you going to use HDMI to the amp? I don't have the option to run a new cable so have to figure it out feeding it back through a coax cable.
Hello Brother cool video, I'm going through UA-cam checking things out, I wanna go with 2x Sonance and Amazon amp, I usually play music out of Alexa, their amp is half of the Wattage power than Sonos amp, plus my speakers will end up above second floor windows, hopefully it will be laud enough to hear down on the patio. Also our Chicago temperatures can go pretty low, rain plus all that together that's why I want to have them right under the soffit to have some protection, we see how that goes
Paul - I love your setup ! Sounds like your setup is gonna be awesome! I hope it works great for you. I really didn’t want to do sonos, but unfortunately I couldn’t find a better solution for what I needed. I think putting them under the soffit is a great idea ! Again, enjoy your setup dude and thanks for the nice comment. Mike
The system is great for what you pay. That cable is trash though. Its CCA (Copper Clad Aluminum). I do this for a living and no professional would even stock that wire let alone install it.
@@keishabaskin2174 as a professional in the industry and owner of an AV company, I second this with some additional information for the purpose of understanding. If you’ve even seen older wire, and it’s under a semi transparent shield and it’s observably green, that’s oxidation. That contributes to dissimilar metal reactions (think 8th grade earth science and making a battery from a penny and a nickel to run a clock) or electrolysis and the way that it also reacts with water and oxygen to create rust. Oxygen free will deter that over time and that equate to lower resistance to the amplifier causing the amplifier to overheat when driven hard or the OHM load changes (this gets quite technical with wire gauges and length of run as well). A ‘best practice’ is also to tin the stripped portion of the wire with silver solder and a bit of flux (the flux allows solder flow at a lower temp so that the shield is undamaged by heat as the wire melts the jacket from the inside). ‘Some’ installers just go with what they know since it’s highly likely that they won’t see that wire connection again for a number of years as it’s not seen and forgotten until there’s a problem. More detailed installers are quite particular about these kinds of things as the term in the industry is that you get what you pay for. Also, in regards to the Speakers themselves, they are a collaboration with Sonance and Sonos and the speakers themselves aren’t ‘smart’ in terms of self amplification, power or, abilities, however, they do have a proprietary circuit board that allows the Sonos Amp to know that they are indeed Sonance speakers designed for the Sonos ecosystem, opening up DSP settings within the Sonos app for that zone in addition to the bass and treble settings as well as the amp being rated to handle the ohm load of three sets (6 total speakers) of the Sonance speakers to be driven off one single amplifier. It should also be noted that unlike the interior in-wall and in-ceiling speakers, the DSP settings are unlike the Sonos TruePlay calibration as it’s next to impossible to truly tune an outdoor area. Also, keep in mind in the future that many newer HOA’s have that hidden area in the contract that many don’t read that give them the ‘power’ to demand that you install the speakers facing the residence rather then outward to keep the sound away from your neighbors. I know this is a DIY channel and I wholeheartedly respect it and encourage it, but many want to ask questions and have a reasonably reliable response to which you do, so, keep doing your thing. You’re pretty much on the mark! There are really good reasons why we professional installers charge more than many seemingly are comfortable with paying. 😁
I thought the same thing for years until I pulled the trigger. The amp alone cost 700-800 bucks and that is what you need to join the sonos ecosystem. It’s the first step in my case, gonna build over the next few years. It’s amazing to be honest, always on, always works, can control via watch from my pool. I’m glad I did it. You could go cheaper with a amp, Amazon dot and speakers(had that setup before but this is like the adult version of that imo- lol) Kinda mimics the same thing, but can’t input sound from tv or do all the things you can do with sonos or at least as easy. In this case if you want multiple channel input/output and control, sonos is actually a cheap and easier option. I’ll be doing another updated video on how to use it and impressions. -Mike
Very cool project and thank you for sharing you actually answered several questions about the installation. Now I'm not as worried about doing our install now.
Very detailed. Been on the fence about these. Did I miss the hole for the speaker wire to the basement? Trying to figure out how to get the wires inside so I don’t have to leave the amp outside
I didn't really show this part, i had to take the siding off, drill through the house and into the basement to run the wires.
The indoor part, is that where the actual power is generated from? Just plug that box into a reg outlet I am assuming? No other electric source needed? No receiver either since it’s directly from your phone? How many speakers did you eventually run through the whole house
Yes, the indoor amp just gets plugged into a wall outlet. i have 2 amps - amp #1 has two outdoor speakers. amp #2 has 4 ceiling kitchen speakers
Does the amp link to the app through wifi?
@@herenorthere5352 good question - Yes, through wifi
Great stuff! I'm ordering mine today!
Thank you! Such a great video!
Thanks ! Hope there will be more that will be helpful
-Mike
Are the speakers connected to a power source at all or is the speaker powered by the amp as well?
Just powered by amp
So are the outdoor Sonos speakers “dumb speakers” and the amp is what has the brains? Unlike the indoor that have their own microphone where you can control them speaking to them? Was hoping for a setup I could control by voice and connect to tv with Wi-Fi or Bluetooth.
Correct, my outdoor speakers are just speakers … dumb…. My Inside Sonos speakers are also dumb, all the brains are in the Sonos AMPs. You can control the amps via Alexa but I usually use my phone then Apple Watch.
Where do you keep the amp? Outside also ? Or inside?
I keep mine inside, in the basement, pretty sure that’s in the video.
How does it connect to music? Bluetooth? How about as tv speakers?
you can connect through the app.. it's not bluetooth tho... you can control through the internet..
I have a bluetooth receiver inside with 2 wired speakers. I want to add wireless speakers outside so I can listen to the same music inside and out without the Sonos app. Is that possible?
yes, I had this at old house. what is did was
1. alexa with output plugged into Amp
2. Amp connected to speaker switch (this allowed me to manually turn each speaker on or off) i had four
3. all speaker connected to switch ....
worked great actually ... assuming you can get wires everywhere.
controlled via alexa inside and phone outside.
Is it possible, when using the Sonos app, to only run one speaker at a time?
You can put left or right speaker on. Or both of course. So I guess the answer is yes.
Where did you put the amp? Was there a power outlet in the ceiling?
The amp is in the basement. Talk about that at end of video.
thumbs up for wife making fun of him for sweating "you're just putting up speakers"
How are you planning to tie the TV sound into the Sonos system?
It will be connected to the Amp. When i do it I’ll make a video. Consider subscribing
Mike
@@FamilyDIYtv are you going to use HDMI to the amp? I don't have the option to run a new cable so have to figure it out feeding it back through a coax cable.
hi thanks for your video... what was that silver wire for i saw as a left over?
What part of the video you referring to ? Like timewise ?
Thinking you mean speaker wire - the link to it is in the description
Hello Brother cool video, I'm going through UA-cam checking things out, I wanna go with 2x Sonance and Amazon amp, I usually play music out of Alexa, their amp is half of the Wattage power than Sonos amp, plus my speakers will end up above second floor windows, hopefully it will be laud enough to hear down on the patio. Also our Chicago temperatures can go pretty low, rain plus all that together that's why I want to have them right under the soffit to have some protection, we see how that goes
Paul - I love your setup ! Sounds like your setup is gonna be awesome! I hope it works great for you. I really didn’t want to do sonos, but unfortunately I couldn’t find a better solution for what I needed.
I think putting them under the soffit is a great idea ! Again, enjoy your setup dude and thanks for the nice comment.
Mike
What gauge number you used ????
Link to wire is in description- it’s 16/2
The system is great for what you pay. That cable is trash though. Its CCA (Copper Clad Aluminum). I do this for a living and no professional would even stock that wire let alone install it.
Ahh man ! A professional installer told me to use it and seems to work fine. What would be better ? Honestly wondering.
@@FamilyDIYtv oxygen free copper wire
@@keishabaskin2174 thanks for the answer!
@@keishabaskin2174 as a professional in the industry and owner of an AV company, I second this with some additional information for the purpose of understanding. If you’ve even seen older wire, and it’s under a semi transparent shield and it’s observably green, that’s oxidation. That contributes to dissimilar metal reactions (think 8th grade earth science and making a battery from a penny and a nickel to run a clock) or electrolysis and the way that it also reacts with water and oxygen to create rust. Oxygen free will deter that over time and that equate to lower resistance to the amplifier causing the amplifier to overheat when driven hard or the OHM load changes (this gets quite technical with wire gauges and length of run as well). A ‘best practice’ is also to tin the stripped portion of the wire with silver solder and a bit of flux (the flux allows solder flow at a lower temp so that the shield is undamaged by heat as the wire melts the jacket from the inside).
‘Some’ installers just go with what they know since it’s highly likely that they won’t see that wire connection again for a number of years as it’s not seen and forgotten until there’s a problem.
More detailed installers are quite particular about these kinds of things as the term in the industry is that you get what you pay for.
Also, in regards to the Speakers themselves, they are a collaboration with Sonance and Sonos and the speakers themselves aren’t ‘smart’ in terms of self amplification, power or, abilities, however, they do have a proprietary circuit board that allows the Sonos Amp to know that they are indeed Sonance speakers designed for the Sonos ecosystem, opening up DSP settings within the Sonos app for that zone in addition to the bass and treble settings as well as the amp being rated to handle the ohm load of three sets (6 total speakers) of the Sonance speakers to be driven off one single amplifier. It should also be noted that unlike the interior in-wall and in-ceiling speakers, the DSP settings are unlike the Sonos TruePlay calibration as it’s next to impossible to truly tune an outdoor area.
Also, keep in mind in the future that many newer HOA’s have that hidden area in the contract that many don’t read that give them the ‘power’ to demand that you install the speakers facing the residence rather then outward to keep the sound away from your neighbors.
I know this is a DIY channel and I wholeheartedly respect it and encourage it, but many want to ask questions and have a reasonably reliable response to which you do, so, keep doing your thing. You’re pretty much on the mark!
There are really good reasons why we professional installers charge more than many seemingly are comfortable with paying. 😁
$1000 for two speakers? Id love to know why. Not trying to troll I just dont get it.
I thought the same thing for years until I pulled the trigger. The amp alone cost 700-800 bucks and that is what you need to join the sonos ecosystem. It’s the first step in my case, gonna build over the next few years. It’s amazing to be honest, always on, always works, can control via watch from my pool. I’m glad I did it. You could go cheaper with a amp, Amazon dot and speakers(had that setup before but this is like the adult version of that imo- lol) Kinda mimics the same thing, but can’t input sound from tv or do all the things you can do with sonos or at least as easy. In this case if you want multiple channel input/output and control, sonos is actually a cheap and easier option. I’ll be doing another updated video on how to use it and impressions.
-Mike
Cheap and stupid are a dangerous combination. Look at america.
“Actual.”
this is something i say over and over and it actually drives me nuts !
@@FamilyDIYtv It's pretty common. Good for you for saying "yeah I know." We all have something like that. I have one, but I won't expose it!!!
Man your audio is horrible
The whole video ? Or just the beginning?
Yeah, something’s we with the beginning now that I listen to it….
Funny name btw - haha