Thanks for the review. I'm really happy that GW has split the terrain and teams into separate sets. Just placed my order for Beta-Decima today and looking forward to the new season.
Good review. The terrain actually looks pretty fun to play on. Too bad its already sold out, so hopefully it doesn't take long to be back in stock. Although I am contemplating scratch building these board and lifting the printed platforms of the mat as well.
Glad to hear that the terrain is not as bland as it appeared to be on first sight. I'd like to point out that for a beginning player, starting with Kill Team in season 3 is considerably more expensive than season 1 or 2 because in addition to the two boxes, you also need the starter set to get the basic rules, markers and gauges.
Looking forward to playing the new kill zone! The teams not so much, but that’s just my personal preference. I think a launch box with the two teams and terrain would of been cool, with every release after split like it is now. All in all I’m happy that they have split 👍
Salutations and Happy Holidays! Thank you for the review. I am actually quite suprised how quickly the terrain sold out. Was it FOMO-who knows? Personally I agree with GW separating the terrain from the units as the terrain(in this instance) was an easy pass for me. When you mentioned Necromunda terrain that is what came to my mind. I purchased a set of sprees of terrain from Ash Wastes which for me just looks thematically better. Surely GW can do a better job of repurposing their existing terrain lines.
Thanks for watching! I think it's cause people do like the terrain and it's compatible with other GW terrain. Ash Waste terrain is great but doesn't gel well with KT imo
It's tough cause in KT the only teams with 3+ are power armour clad units (SM, Legionnaires etc) so whilst their aspect armour is better than normal aspect armour, it's still not Power Armour, feels like they should be a 3.5+ but they've got to differentiate I suppose!
Nah Scorpions and Warp Spiders are the only foot aspects with +3 armour save due to their bulkier aspect armour. Even in the narrative they explain how it offers the same protection as power armour but without the movement penalties
@@CanYouRollaCrit Referring to alternate stat lines for units and saying theyre downgraded in the kill team from "historic" stat lines makes it sound like youre comparing them to the base game.
@baconation2637 Comparisons between 40k and Killteam are valid, especially where Ballistic/Weapon Skill AND Armour Saves are concerned. Almost all models in Killteam have the same equivalent stats in 40k. (Eg: space marines having a BS/WS and Sv of 3+ in both games) Obviously, they're different games and are balanced differently, but clearly what he's saying is that specific Eldar units have been made worse, in comparison to their position in other games AND in lore.
The easiest kill zone to scratch built since challnath. And for people who buys the terrain having no more duplicates bundled with the teams is also great. (Tho the copies of into the dark terrain are actually useful for a big 40k boarding action if you are into it.)
@@CanYouRollaCritI know but it was out back in 9th edition so they definitely preyed on the hype. This terrain is also not useful in 10th. Since it's all blocks now.
And ITD was just walls my dude 🤣 Yes but it has been completely dropped with 10th edition. We could see 40k use this too for their next campaign as well but only time will tell
Might be wishful thinking, but does the sizing of the new terrain match up with the gantries from Star Wars Shatterpoint? Might be able to test out the new rules early haha
How does the platform with just one pillar hold when having miniatures in its borders? Great in depth video as always, but honestrly i'm quite disappointed with the lackluster terrain and beeing fed with straight wh40k units with no kill team flavour (miniature-wise). For the warrior aspects, needing 3 boxes to assemble a competitive killteam is a new low as well.
I have a question. I have been seeing a lot of people doing the free dash for the scout kill team. They will be dash up on the terrain. I feel it is wrong, but I would like to have some clarification on it. Thank you
So, I get a naked Terrain box and the rules and missions for it in the box with the teams I don’t want? Hopefully the free PDFs get all Terrain rules plus missions for it. Otherwise these releases are BS.
I've skipped the new kill teams, but i pre-ordered the terrain. My only concern now is how complete the promised download is going to be. If it includes just the actual terrain rules, and omits the mission and campaign rules i will not be a happy gamer.
Is it just me or are the KT terrains getting really silly and simple? Boarding actions and Gallowdark were really nice IMO. Not sure how you'd improve on those though. Maybe with some more parts of a ship, like engine room and such? I don't play the game, but really would love to get BA and GD to paint, they're so nice. Just almost impossible to get here, outside of eBay and 200€.
I guess its just me but man does this terrain look boring. The old sector mechanicus sets came with lots of extra stuff to make it at least a little interesting, and you could get broken ones from some sets too. My big questions is it just going to sell out and disappear anyway. But I don't think I'm biting on their FOMO lure this time.
I get that, I think they kept it more intact as its a functioning place not a rundown one The terrain is for the year so hopefully it's not gonna be one and done 😅
If you already have teams, you can just buy the terrain box. But the box with the new teams is the box with the new narrative mission pack. But, I think GW said they’ll be releasing some of it separately as a PDF online.
Thanks for the review. I'm really happy that GW has split the terrain and teams into separate sets. Just placed my order for Beta-Decima today and looking forward to the new season.
Thanks for watching! Yeah it's a great idea with what GW have done! Oh nice!
Good review. The terrain actually looks pretty fun to play on. Too bad its already sold out, so hopefully it doesn't take long to be back in stock. Although I am contemplating scratch building these board and lifting the printed platforms of the mat as well.
The terrain will never be made again after this year, if it's just this box it will never be made again.
Thanks! Should be back soon as it's the terrain for the whole season (:
@@bobshobyit will be back in stock again, it even says so on the website.
Glad to hear that the terrain is not as bland as it appeared to be on first sight. I'd like to point out that for a beginning player, starting with Kill Team in season 3 is considerably more expensive than season 1 or 2 because in addition to the two boxes, you also need the starter set to get the basic rules, markers and gauges.
Ah true but I believe they intend the starter set to be the entry point
Looking forward to playing the new kill zone! The teams not so much, but that’s just my personal preference. I think a launch box with the two teams and terrain would of been cool, with every release after split like it is now. All in all I’m happy that they have split 👍
Yeah that's fair but new killzone is fun (:
Incroyable.
Salutations and Happy Holidays! Thank you for the review. I am actually quite suprised how quickly the terrain sold out. Was it FOMO-who knows? Personally I agree with GW separating the terrain from the units as the terrain(in this instance) was an easy pass for me. When you mentioned Necromunda terrain that is what came to my mind. I purchased a set of sprees of terrain from Ash Wastes which for me just looks thematically better. Surely GW can do a better job of repurposing their existing terrain lines.
Thanks for watching! I think it's cause people do like the terrain and it's compatible with other GW terrain.
Ash Waste terrain is great but doesn't gel well with KT imo
Way better review than one from GHD.
Thanks!
Wow thanks! Glad you liked the review (:
great job! loved the video!
Thanks dude! Glad you liked it (:
The new killzone rules are interesting. Probably not going to buy the terrain, though. Ive got enough sector mechanicus already
The terrain is really fun to play on!
It's tough cause in KT the only teams with 3+ are power armour clad units (SM, Legionnaires etc) so whilst their aspect armour is better than normal aspect armour, it's still not Power Armour, feels like they should be a 3.5+ but they've got to differentiate I suppose!
Nah Scorpions and Warp Spiders are the only foot aspects with +3 armour save due to their bulkier aspect armour. Even in the narrative they explain how it offers the same protection as power armour but without the movement penalties
As an Eldar fan I think youre maybe a little biased about the balancing. Currently They have the highest 40k winrate and considered over tuned.
I didn't know 40k and kill team were the same game 🤔
@@CanYouRollaCrit Referring to alternate stat lines for units and saying theyre downgraded in the kill team from "historic" stat lines makes it sound like youre comparing them to the base game.
@baconation2637
Comparisons between 40k and Killteam are valid, especially where Ballistic/Weapon Skill AND Armour Saves are concerned.
Almost all models in Killteam have the same equivalent stats in 40k. (Eg: space marines having a BS/WS and Sv of 3+ in both games)
Obviously, they're different games and are balanced differently, but clearly what he's saying is that specific Eldar units have been made worse, in comparison to their position in other games AND in lore.
The easiest kill zone to scratch built since challnath. And for people who buys the terrain having no more duplicates bundled with the teams is also great. (Tho the copies of into the dark terrain are actually useful for a big 40k boarding action if you are into it.)
Eh it's not that easy and adds up to more of a cost if using GW pieces.
Also no one plays boarding actions in 40k in 10th
@@CanYouRollaCritI think it is. It's just plataforma my dude. It's a matter of getting the measurements right.
@@CanYouRollaCritI know but it was out back in 9th edition so they definitely preyed on the hype. This terrain is also not useful in 10th. Since it's all blocks now.
And ITD was just walls my dude 🤣
Yes but it has been completely dropped with 10th edition. We could see 40k use this too for their next campaign as well but only time will tell
The campaign looks super interesting
Yup it's really fun and quite in-depth!
Might be wishful thinking, but does the sizing of the new terrain match up with the gantries from Star Wars Shatterpoint? Might be able to test out the new rules early haha
Ah not sure sadly 😅
How does the platform with just one pillar hold when having miniatures in its borders? Great in depth video as always, but honestrly i'm quite disappointed with the lackluster terrain and beeing fed with straight wh40k units with no kill team flavour (miniature-wise). For the warrior aspects, needing 3 boxes to assemble a competitive killteam is a new low as well.
chaos cult need 4 to just be playable
@@vlaandhael yeah you're right, I forgot those.
Platform with single pillar is fine. Only gets wobbly if you put a super heavy miniature on the edge of it
@@CanYouRollaCrit thanks! A negative point to cross out then :)
I have a question. I have been seeing a lot of people doing the free dash for the scout kill team. They will be dash up on the terrain. I feel it is wrong, but I would like to have some clarification on it. Thank you
Dash has fly now for recon dash so it's legit
So, I get a naked Terrain box and the rules and missions for it in the box with the teams I don’t want?
Hopefully the free PDFs get all Terrain rules plus missions for it.
Otherwise these releases are BS.
I think the free PDF missions won't use scatter terrain but we'll find out in 3 weeks haha
Cool luckily I Managed to buy one. Can you play the campaign with 2 Player?
Ah nice, great to hear! Yeah I think so (:
I've skipped the new kill teams, but i pre-ordered the terrain. My only concern now is how complete the promised download is going to be. If it includes just the actual terrain rules, and omits the mission and campaign rules i will not be a happy gamer.
It should be full rules but we'll also get a pdf mission pack it seems
Are the pegs for the short pillars staggered like the mechanicus terrain or are they aligned?
Staggered (:
Thanks!@@CanYouRollaCrit
Are the cards the Critical Operations Tacops or something new?
New cards for each kill team (:
Counter point... suspensor system's shouldn't exist. Heavy weapons are supposed to come with drawbacks.
Yeah but for some teams it makes sense
Is it just me or are the KT terrains getting really silly and simple? Boarding actions and Gallowdark were really nice IMO. Not sure how you'd improve on those though. Maybe with some more parts of a ship, like engine room and such? I don't play the game, but really would love to get BA and GD to paint, they're so nice. Just almost impossible to get here, outside of eBay and 200€.
BA and GD?
I guess its just me but man does this terrain look boring. The old sector mechanicus sets came with lots of extra stuff to make it at least a little interesting, and you could get broken ones from some sets too. My big questions is it just going to sell out and disappear anyway. But I don't think I'm biting on their FOMO lure this time.
I get that, I think they kept it more intact as its a functioning place not a rundown one
The terrain is for the year so hopefully it's not gonna be one and done 😅
27:40 ... micro genitelia?
Errrrrr
You need to buy box with terrain and box with teams and terrain sprue for play matched play??? I cant just buy a box with terrain, yes?
If you already have teams, you can just buy the terrain box. But the box with the new teams is the box with the new narrative mission pack. But, I think GW said they’ll be releasing some of it separately as a PDF online.
Yup, new mission pack coming out when this all launches as per Warhammer Community
if we go by past experience, the competitive missions won't even use the narrative terrain they included.