My Bradt Travel Guide to Tunisia (1st Edition) will be published worldwide in June 2023, in print and e-book formats. Pre-order here: www.bradtguides.com/product/tunisia-1/ or (if you are in Tunisia) via Librairie Al Kitab in Tunis: www.alkitab.tn/
That's a nice video thank you very much for making it. My father was in the North African campaign in 1943 he was part of the amphibious Invasion force that landed in Oran and they were fired on by the French and they returned fire. After landing in Oran they traveled east across the northern part of Algeria and Tunisia. They went up into the peninsula where Tunis is located and the Americans and British formed a barrier blocking in the German troops my father was in the American 34th Infantry Division which took Hill 609. His division had to take Hill 609 multiple times before they could hold it. Then from what I understand there was a big aerial bombardment on the German troops. After that was over some of his division went to Sicily but he remained in North Africa for a little longer before going back to England to prepare for the invasion of Normandy.
Thank you for sharing this incredible story! Sadly, you can follow the eastwards progress of the Allied troops through Tunisia via the string of war cemeteries all the way from Tabarka to Tunis. I have not been to Hill 609 yet, but I intend to soon.
@@ScafidiTravels Hill 609 was a very bloody battle. The 34th Infantry Division had to take it twice and t In the process they lost 2300 soldiers. My father said you could walk up that hill and your feet would not touch the ground because you would be walking on so many dead soldiers. I did see a UA-cam video about Hill 609.
I thought Rommel was back in Germany to recover from illness by the time the battle for Tunisia was fought. Also the vehicle in display was regular kubelwagen. He used various types of vehicles as his personal command vehicle. The most famous one was a half truck with red lettering “Greif,” but he never used Kubel as his vehicle.
I think there is another one nearby which has some more interesting preserved interior features, including a Nazi mosaic and a mural of Hitler's Berghof home. I need to go back to the Mareth area and track it down!
Interesting tour through WW2 history. That Rommel bunker was of course heavily guarded by his Afrika Korps back in WW2. At 12:08 am on that concrete elevation, a machine probably once stood up.
Hi Oscar, the video is very interesting, is there a chance you can forward the position of the communed post as I am heading to tunisia this christmas and love to see both Rommel sites please.
Hello, all of the GPS locations for the (real) Rommel site and the other Mareth Line locations of interest are listed in my Bradt Guide to Tunisia, which is available to download instantly as an e-book, or from Amazon / direct from the Bradt website: www.bradtguides.com/product/tunisia-1/
Hi@@ScafidiTravels Yes I did, took me 5 hours there and 5 hours back as I was based in north Tunisia, spend an hour in the bunker, then I went to the museum and spend another hour there. its very interesting. I also been to Rommel's grave in 2010 in Herrlingen, but what I missed was Villa Lindenhof. Maybe next time when I shot off to Europe by car I surely pass through Herrlingen again.
I am still waiting to confirm whether this was his main command post or whether there was a more impressive one nearby that I missed (which even has a preserved mural of Hitler's Berghof residence on the wall). Will update you all once I find out.
New Zealanders played a massive role in north Africa fighting the axis forces Rommel was a great soldier and his exploits in the first world war in incredible I only what he would of done if in charge of Stalingrad respect also to my country men new Zealand division fighting in Libya tunsia Egypt
No worries, glad you enjoyed it! Don't forget to look out for my guidebook to Tunisia, due to be published in June 2023. Lots more details on the Mareth Line in there!
I think you didn't really visit the true Rommel's bunker. I think it's the one in the link below. It contains a kitchen, the Nazi slogan at the roof and some mosaics on the floor.... I saw many interesting photos about it days ago but unfortunately i couldn't find them. But i hope these one in the link can be helpful.
@@ScafidiTravels it's located near the village of "Tounine"(in Toujane). You can translate the description in the post. It may be helpful. (Btw it seems that comments containing external links are somehow invisible in youtube's comment section.) m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155631747793963&id=679328962
@@ScafidiTravelsHey, I have watched the video. That was really an amazing experience. Finding that bunker between all those mountains wasn't easy. Very glad that you finally made it. Keep up the work and stay safe.
Not Rommel's Kubelwagen. Besides I see so many things wrong with this KW... for example single wiper without engine... gaz tank seems to be missing... etc I couls make a long list. Looks like a replica or very bad restoration.
If you would like to join the argument as to whether Rommel was a Nazi or not, please jump into the comments below or see this thread here! www.reddit.com/r/Tunisia/comments/lz6a7b/nazi_general_erwin_rommel_the_desert_fox_used/
No doubt he was a Nazi but he had nothing to do with the July plot he was a people's soldier and didn't deserve to be treated like that from Hitler's cowardly Gestapo who never had to fight on the front line
Rommel was not a Nazi even thinking of overthrowing Hitler he was a brilliant commander respected by the allies Rommel was humane towards prisoners too but no not a Nazi yes he had to join in the party or lose his position but disagreed with Hitler on many issues
Calling Rommel a member of the National Socialist Party, which he was, is no comment on his operational abilities or treatment of prisoners of war. There remains a lot of disagreement over the rehabilitation of Rommel's image following his death. A good article about this topic here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth
1942 After the first attack by the british at El Alamein achieved mixed results but gained ground here and there but the german line held strong a second assault by the british 8th Army Desert rats to break Rommel's line operation (supercharger ) this attack took place at the northern part toward the sea coast here the Australian 9th division pushed the german line through its sacrifice and determination playing a key role in both battles that ultimately swing the battle in the allies favour breaking the german resistance at great cost to the 9th division and paved the way for montgomery's the 8th army to smash through the entire german line giving rommel no choice but to order a general retreat all way through territory he won perversely finally halting at The Mareth line to give battle to the british 8th army once again yes as you correctly said montomarry sent a force on rommel's to the advancing british the left flank while engaging him directly at the line this again caused rommel to break and fall back into Tunisia it self at this time the americans arrived off the coast of tunisia operation Torch after landing they advanced at a place called Kesselring pass the american 2nd corp would be the first time they met german forces in battle however Erwin Rommel prepared a well laid ambush the green inexperienced soldiers walked straight into it and were totally routed causing high casualties killed wounded and capturing vast quantities of men and material the americans were pushed 50 miles back with this successfully counter attack it paused the US army commanders to regroup their shattered shell shocked americans army Rommel then turned his forces around and faced the british 8th army once again remorselessly advancing on his rear hoping to stall their advance however the british knew all his tricks Rommel didn't have the luxury of good information of british intentions and planning of coming attacks he once had through german spy networks helped unintentionally of course by the american embassy staff based in cairo Egypt sending top secret british planning for future battles to the american president roosevelt through their compromised encryption codes which was broken by the italian secret spy service lol So Rommel was on his own his attacks were easily stopped and his forces repulsed at great cost in tanks he couldn't afford to lose with limited supplies getting through Rommel's options were bleak he was eventually flown out by the order of the adolf hitler Rommel's entire afrika Korp was abandoned of no futher use to the Fuhrer to fall into allied hands
Thanks for this summary of the fighting! Do you think Hitler called Rommel back because he didn't want him facing a defeat on the battlefield? Or was it more to do with 20 July plot?
No evidence of Rommel's involvement in the bomb plot has ever been discovered. Of course, this did not stop the Gestapo from implicating him anyway. There is a good discussion of this in the Quora article below. But whether he was a part of the plot or not has no relevance to whether he was a Nazi. There were plenty of Nazis involved in the 20 July plot. www.quora.com/Was-there-any-definitive-evidence-the-Rommel-was-involved-in-the-bomb-plot-against-Hitler-Was-Rommel-a-traitor-to-Hitler
Hi! Another great video mate. I love it. I’ve actually watch it three times. Tunisia saw lots of action during WW2 Btw, I wonder how many countries invaded Tunisia so far and they all end up on the losing side 😉 I do appreciate your effort to find the banker 👍 That motorway in the middle was a pain 😂 A question for you plz : We all know that Rommel was a Nazi but shouldn’t the Tunisian restored his banker and made it as a little museum to attract Tourist ?? ❤️♓️❤️♓️❤️♓️❤️♓️❤️♓️
Thanks for the support! It turns out there may actually be another, larger bunker that Rommel used nearby, which has been restored by the museum authorities in Mareth. I will have to head back down there again and see if I can find it!
The Wermacht were conscripted not Nazi the SS were though and commited war crimes the Wermacht were a professional army the SS would follow after capturing a town or city they would come along and commit the crimes
"The myth of the clean Wehrmacht is the fictitious notion that the regular German armed forces (the Wehrmacht) were not involved in the Holocaust or other war crimes during World War II. The debunked myth, heavily promoted by German authors and military personnel after WWII, completely denies the culpability of the German military command in the planning and preparation of war crimes. Even where the perpetration of war crimes and the waging of a war of extermination, particularly in the Soviet Union - where the Nazis viewed the population as "sub-humans" ruled by "Jewish Bolshevik" conspirators - has been acknowledged, they are ascribed to the "Party soldiers", the Schutzstaffel (SS), but not the regular German military." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht
Please stop spreading the Clean Wehrmacht myth. According to a study by Alex J. Kay and David Stahel, the majority of the Wehrmacht soldiers deployed to the Soviet Union participated in war crimes. Source: Kay, Alex J., and David Stahel. "Reconceiving Criminality in the German Army on the Eastern Front, 1941-1942." Mass Violence in Nazi-Occupied Europe, edited by Alex J. Kay and David Stahel, Indiana University Press, Bloomington, Indiana, USA, 2018, pp. 182-186. The Wehrmacht persecuted Soviet POWs in violation of the Geneva Convention Source: Jacobsen 1968, pp. 529-30 The Wehrmacht raped 10 million women on the Eastern Front Source: Gertjejanssen, Wendy Jo (2004). Victims, Heroes, Survivors: Sexual Violence on the Eastern Front during World War II (PhD thesis). University of Minnesota. The Wehrmacht initiated in the Hunger Plan, a plan which saw Wehrmacht soldiers pillage Soviet villages and steal the food, resulting in a famine which killed 4.2 Million people as a part of Generalplan OST Source: Timothy Snyder: Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin. Basic Books, New York 2010, p. 411. For more information on this topic, read the book World War 2 History: True Stories of Wehrmacht War Crimes and Atrocities
This bunker is located to the north-west of the Military Museum in Mareth. The exact GPS location will be printed in my upcoming Bradt Travel Guide to Tunisia, which will be released worldwide in June 2023.
Now we're getting into some tricky historiography! You're right, he was not a member of the National-Socialist party. The relationship between Nazism and the Wehrmacht generally, and Rommel and Nazism specifically, has led to a lot of debate over the years. My view is that if you're a strong supporter of Hitler, you openly and privately profess to admiring Hitler, Goebbels writes that you are "ideologically sound...not just sympathetic to the National Socialists. He is a National Socialist" and in your professional capacity you work tirelessly to help Hitler to achieve his strategic aims, then you're a Nazi. There's a good discussion on this here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth#:~:text=Rommel%20was%20not%20a%20member,and%20others%20who%20supported%20them.
My Bradt Travel Guide to Tunisia (1st Edition) will be published worldwide in June 2023, in print and e-book formats. Pre-order here: www.bradtguides.com/product/tunisia-1/ or (if you are in Tunisia) via Librairie Al Kitab in Tunis: www.alkitab.tn/
That's a nice video thank you very much for making it. My father was in
the North African campaign in 1943 he was part of the amphibious Invasion force that landed in Oran and they were fired on by the French and they returned fire. After landing in Oran they traveled east across the northern part of Algeria and Tunisia. They went up into the peninsula where Tunis is located and the Americans and British formed a barrier blocking in the German troops my father was in the American 34th Infantry Division which took Hill 609. His division had to take Hill 609 multiple times before they could hold it. Then from what I understand there was a big aerial bombardment on the German troops. After that was over some of his division went to Sicily but he remained in North Africa for a little longer before going back to England to prepare for the invasion of Normandy.
Thank you for sharing this incredible story! Sadly, you can follow the eastwards progress of the Allied troops through Tunisia via the string of war cemeteries all the way from Tabarka to Tunis. I have not been to Hill 609 yet, but I intend to soon.
@@ScafidiTravels Hill 609 was a very bloody battle. The 34th Infantry Division had to take it twice and t
In the process they lost 2300 soldiers. My father said you could walk up that hill and your feet would not touch the ground because you would be walking on so many dead soldiers. I did see a UA-cam video about Hill 609.
Just stumbled upon your channel and subscribed! Looking forward to the book! The wife is from Tunisia, born in Kairouan and lived in EzZahra.
Thanks for the support! Kairouan is an amazing part of the country, although it is suffering quite badly right now due to the covid-19 pandemic there.
@@ScafidiTravels Indeed! And stood in for Cairo in Raiders of the Lost Ark!
I thought Rommel was back in Germany to recover from illness by the time the battle for Tunisia was fought. Also the vehicle in display was regular kubelwagen. He used various types of vehicles as his personal command vehicle. The most famous one was a half truck with red lettering “Greif,” but he never used Kubel as his vehicle.
Yes, he managed to avoid the actual battle on the Mareth Line by a few days. Lucky!
Now that's a sight! Not very interesting on the inside, but still in relatively decent condition
I think there is another one nearby which has some more interesting preserved interior features, including a Nazi mosaic and a mural of Hitler's Berghof home. I need to go back to the Mareth area and track it down!
Interesting tour through WW2 history. That Rommel bunker was of course heavily guarded by his Afrika Korps back in WW2. At 12:08 am on that concrete elevation, a machine probably once stood up.
Tunisia has massive potential to expand their WWII tourism offerings. There is so much interesting wartime stuff out there if you explore!
I Hope Rommel bunker gets more attention in the future as god as that allies bunker to preserves the history
Yes, it is an incredible piece of WWII history.
Hi Oscar, the video is very interesting, is there a chance you can forward the position of the communed post as I am heading to tunisia this christmas and love to see both Rommel sites please.
Hello, all of the GPS locations for the (real) Rommel site and the other Mareth Line locations of interest are listed in my Bradt Guide to Tunisia, which is available to download instantly as an e-book, or from Amazon / direct from the Bradt website: www.bradtguides.com/product/tunisia-1/
Did you manage to get to these sites in the end? Hope it was a good trip!
Hi@@ScafidiTravels Yes I did, took me 5 hours there and 5 hours back as I was based in north Tunisia, spend an hour in the bunker, then I went to the museum and spend another hour there. its very interesting. I also been to Rommel's grave in 2010 in Herrlingen, but what I missed was Villa Lindenhof. Maybe next time when I shot off to Europe by car I surely pass through Herrlingen again.
@@homeriuk2569 Amazing, glad you managed to get to it!
Thank you for the video!
My pleasure!
Hello! Would you please share the coordinates of Rommel's command post? Thank you!
I am still waiting to confirm whether this was his main command post or whether there was a more impressive one nearby that I missed (which even has a preserved mural of Hitler's Berghof residence on the wall). Will update you all once I find out.
@@ScafidiTravels Thank you! I hope you will share those locations. Interesting places to visit.
New Zealanders played a massive role in north Africa fighting the axis forces Rommel was a great soldier and his exploits in the first world war in incredible I only what he would of done if in charge of
Stalingrad respect also to my country men new Zealand division fighting in Libya tunsia Egypt
Indeed. There is even a memorial to the NZ soldiers who died at the military museum in Mareth.
@@ScafidiTravels yes i have been to El Alamein incredible
Thank you for sharing this vid
No worries, glad you enjoyed it! Don't forget to look out for my guidebook to Tunisia, due to be published in June 2023. Lots more details on the Mareth Line in there!
Wow, very cool!
Thanks! I am going to hike the entire Mareth Line soon. Look out for that video on my channel.
Would you share with us the GPS position of Rommel's bunker please
All the GPS positions will be published in my guidebook which comes out in April 2023. Please email me if you really need the location before then!
I think you didn't really visit the true Rommel's bunker. I think it's the one in the link below. It contains a kitchen, the Nazi slogan at the roof and some mosaics on the floor.... I saw many interesting photos about it days ago but unfortunately i couldn't find them. But i hope these one in the link can be helpful.
Please could you share the link or a GPS location and I'll investigate further?
@@ScafidiTravels it's located near the village of "Tounine"(in Toujane). You can translate the description in the post. It may be helpful.
(Btw it seems that comments containing external links are somehow invisible in youtube's comment section.)
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155631747793963&id=679328962
@@youn454 Please could you send me the external link to my Instagram account (oscarscafidi) or my Twitter (BradtTunisia)? Thanks!
Ok I found the bunker you mentioned here. Please see my latest video on this channel!
@@ScafidiTravelsHey, I have watched the video. That was really an amazing experience. Finding that bunker between all those mountains wasn't easy. Very glad that you finally made it. Keep up the work and stay safe.
Not Rommel's Kubelwagen. Besides I see so many things wrong with this KW... for example single wiper without engine... gaz tank seems to be missing... etc I couls make a long list. Looks like a replica or very bad restoration.
I am pretty sure it is a replica.
If you would like to join the argument as to whether Rommel was a Nazi or not, please jump into the comments below or see this thread here! www.reddit.com/r/Tunisia/comments/lz6a7b/nazi_general_erwin_rommel_the_desert_fox_used/
No doubt he was a Nazi but he had nothing to do with the July plot he was a people's soldier and didn't deserve to be treated like that from Hitler's cowardly Gestapo who never had to fight on the front line
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Rommel was not a Nazi even thinking of overthrowing Hitler he was a brilliant commander respected by the allies Rommel was humane towards prisoners too but no not a Nazi yes he had to join in the party or lose his position but disagreed with Hitler on many issues
Calling Rommel a member of the National Socialist Party, which he was, is no comment on his operational abilities or treatment of prisoners of war. There remains a lot of disagreement over the rehabilitation of Rommel's image following his death. A good article about this topic here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth
@@ScafidiTravels He wasn't in the party but yes I agree he was a Nazi.
1942 After the first attack by the british at El Alamein achieved mixed results but gained ground here and there but the german line held strong a second assault by the british 8th Army Desert rats to break Rommel's line operation (supercharger ) this attack took place at the northern part toward the sea coast here the Australian 9th division pushed the german line through its sacrifice and determination playing a key role in both battles that ultimately swing the battle in the allies favour breaking the german resistance at great cost to the 9th division and paved the way for montgomery's the 8th army to smash through the entire german line giving rommel no choice but to order a general retreat all way through territory he won perversely finally halting at The Mareth line to give battle to the british 8th army once again yes as you correctly said montomarry sent a force on rommel's to the advancing british the left flank while engaging him directly at the line this again caused rommel to break and fall back into Tunisia it self at this time the americans arrived off the coast of tunisia operation Torch after landing they advanced at a place called Kesselring pass the american 2nd corp would be the first time they met german forces in battle however Erwin Rommel prepared a well laid ambush the green inexperienced soldiers walked straight into it and were totally routed causing high casualties killed wounded and capturing vast quantities of men and material the americans were pushed 50 miles back with this successfully counter attack it paused the US army commanders to regroup their shattered shell shocked americans army Rommel then turned his forces around and faced the british 8th army once again remorselessly advancing on his rear hoping to stall their advance however the british knew all his tricks Rommel didn't have the luxury of good information of british intentions and planning of coming attacks he once had through german spy networks helped unintentionally of course by the american embassy staff based in cairo Egypt sending top secret british planning for future battles to the american president roosevelt through their compromised encryption codes which was broken by the italian secret spy service lol
So Rommel was on his own his attacks were easily stopped and his forces repulsed at great cost in tanks he couldn't afford to lose with limited supplies getting through Rommel's options were bleak he was eventually flown out by the order of the adolf hitler Rommel's entire afrika Korp was abandoned of no futher use to the Fuhrer to fall into allied hands
Thanks for this summary of the fighting! Do you think Hitler called Rommel back because he didn't want him facing a defeat on the battlefield? Or was it more to do with 20 July plot?
He was part of the bomb plot, so calling him a Nazi is not fair.
No evidence of Rommel's involvement in the bomb plot has ever been discovered. Of course, this did not stop the Gestapo from implicating him anyway. There is a good discussion of this in the Quora article below. But whether he was a part of the plot or not has no relevance to whether he was a Nazi. There were plenty of Nazis involved in the 20 July plot.
www.quora.com/Was-there-any-definitive-evidence-the-Rommel-was-involved-in-the-bomb-plot-against-Hitler-Was-Rommel-a-traitor-to-Hitler
Hi!
Another great video mate.
I love it. I’ve actually watch it three times.
Tunisia saw lots of action during WW2
Btw, I wonder how many countries invaded Tunisia so far and they all end up on the losing side 😉
I do appreciate your effort to find the banker 👍
That motorway in the middle was a pain 😂
A question for you plz :
We all know that Rommel was a Nazi but shouldn’t the Tunisian restored his banker and made it as a little museum to attract Tourist ??
❤️♓️❤️♓️❤️♓️❤️♓️❤️♓️
Thanks for the support! It turns out there may actually be another, larger bunker that Rommel used nearby, which has been restored by the museum authorities in Mareth. I will have to head back down there again and see if I can find it!
@@ScafidiTravels
Thanks mate for this useful information.
Hopefully it’s located far from
any Motorway 😂
...BAD-TO-THE-BONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
The Wermacht were conscripted not Nazi the SS were though and commited war crimes the Wermacht were a professional army the SS would follow after capturing a town or city they would come along and commit the crimes
"The myth of the clean Wehrmacht is the fictitious notion that the regular German armed forces (the Wehrmacht) were not involved in the Holocaust or other war crimes during World War II. The debunked myth, heavily promoted by German authors and military personnel after WWII, completely denies the culpability of the German military command in the planning and preparation of war crimes. Even where the perpetration of war crimes and the waging of a war of extermination, particularly in the Soviet Union - where the Nazis viewed the population as "sub-humans" ruled by "Jewish Bolshevik" conspirators - has been acknowledged, they are ascribed to the "Party soldiers", the Schutzstaffel (SS), but not the regular German military."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myth_of_the_clean_Wehrmacht
Please stop spreading the Clean Wehrmacht myth.
According to a study by Alex J. Kay and David Stahel, the majority of the Wehrmacht soldiers deployed to the Soviet Union participated in war crimes.
Source: Kay, Alex J., and David Stahel. "Reconceiving Criminality in the German Army on the Eastern Front, 1941-1942." Mass Violence in Nazi-Occupied Europe, edited by Alex J. Kay and David Stahel, Indiana University Press, Bloomington, Indiana, USA, 2018, pp. 182-186.
The Wehrmacht persecuted Soviet POWs in violation of the Geneva Convention
Source: Jacobsen 1968, pp. 529-30
The Wehrmacht raped 10 million women on the Eastern Front
Source: Gertjejanssen, Wendy Jo (2004). Victims, Heroes, Survivors: Sexual Violence on the Eastern Front during World War II (PhD thesis). University of Minnesota.
The Wehrmacht initiated in the Hunger Plan, a plan which saw Wehrmacht soldiers pillage Soviet villages and steal the food, resulting in a famine which killed 4.2 Million people as a part of Generalplan OST
Source: Timothy Snyder: Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin. Basic Books, New York 2010, p. 411.
For more information on this topic, read the book World War 2 History: True Stories of Wehrmacht War Crimes and Atrocities
توجان هذي يا برو
لا موش توجان هاذي مارث
@@douzserra1127 كان المتحف العسكري في مارث الباقي في توجان
This bunker is located to the north-west of the Military Museum in Mareth. The exact GPS location will be printed in my upcoming Bradt Travel Guide to Tunisia, which will be released worldwide in June 2023.
Ervin-Rommels!?,Deutschland,Ubbe-Alles!?,*Sik-Hajl!?🤎💜💜💙
Is a German General NOT Nazi. Is li I said the Democrat (or Republican) General Patton just because the republican party was in power
Now we're getting into some tricky historiography! You're right, he was not a member of the National-Socialist party. The relationship between Nazism and the Wehrmacht generally, and Rommel and Nazism specifically, has led to a lot of debate over the years.
My view is that if you're a strong supporter of Hitler, you openly and privately profess to admiring Hitler, Goebbels writes that you are "ideologically sound...not just sympathetic to the National Socialists. He is a National Socialist" and in your professional capacity you work tirelessly to help Hitler to achieve his strategic aims, then you're a Nazi.
There's a good discussion on this here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth#:~:text=Rommel%20was%20not%20a%20member,and%20others%20who%20supported%20them.