We Now Know What Really Went Wrong With Cats
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Ian McKellan and Judi Dench are two of the most revered actors in showbiz -- and when you put them alongside the talents of Idris Elba, James Corden, and the pop superstars Taylor Swift and Jennifer Hudson, you’ve got yourself a hit, right?
That was the general idea when all of them were all cast in the 2019 musical fantasy film Cats, based on Andrew Lloyd Webber’s Tony Award-winning musical. The movie was also directed by Academy Award-winning director Tom Hooper.
So, why was the movie a critical and commercial failure? It’s never just one thing that makes a movie a flop, but we now know what really went wrong with Cats.
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If it has to be 99% CGI just make a cartoon.
Make a cartoon and turn it into a movie? Don't think that would happen and rather then it being a movie it should be more of a tv show than a movie
@@matthewk7369 he meant it should be an animated movie like the Pixar and other such movies
If the cats were designed and animated to look more like cats than humans or to look like the characters of Cats Don’t Dance, and if an actual story line beyond the play was developed, this movie could’ve worked.
They botched it by pasting fur and ears onto human bodies.
Family Guy Presents: Cats!
Movies these days are trying to be cartoons (Avatar, Marvel, Star Wars) while cartoons are trying to be movies (Lady and the Tramp, Polar Express, Beowulf). They would both be better off if they just used to traditional artistry than technology.
Tom Hooper finished his film like a college student
watching that segment about his 36 hour all-nighter reminds me of how I completed my undergrad assignments =/ alright if you're an undergrad with only your grades to deal with, not alright if you're a professional responsible for a bunch of people with your name credited on a terrible film..!
It's because they still want to think CGI is better than old school. Imagine if they made the actors wear cat outfits or just voiced cat puppets. This may have turned out more appealing going old school.
Actually yes, cause anything other than this could have been better
CGI works as a compliment to props/practical effects, but even the most arduously labored CGI is never indistinguishably realistic. A movie that completely relies on rushed CGI expecting the work to be waved away as if by magic wand, ends up unconvincing at best… downright revolting at worst.
Go see the play then.
It still wouldn't have had a storyline. It's a notoriously bad musical, but it has notoriety so they thought people would go see it anyway
Then why go see it. It'd just be the play. They might as well just show a recorded performance
Looper: We know what really went wrong with Cats
Me: Everything
To quote the Nostalgia Critic: uh doy! 😆 this is for the video, not your comment
Your dp is blank
Ohh, it might be a leon
But, the movie was fine though. I mean, I liked it...a lot.
@@kaylalezabeth7175 According to you, most thought it was horrible and a disappointment compared to the work is was spawned from. You liking a movie doesn't mean it is good, personally I love Howard the duck but that doesn't mean it's good and realistically it is pretty awful I just happen to like it.
Correct. To blame this fiasco on CGI is like saying World War II was unpleasant because of rationing. I can't think of a single decision the "creative team" made that wasn't just plain wrong.
What went wrong? They didn't use that money to make a "Thundercats" movie.
I know you're joking but I really wish they would made a Thundercats movie instead. I would go see it.
THUNDERRRR
YES!!!!
Love IT!! 😂❤️👍
That was freakin brilliant!!!😂😂😂 l love it!!
Not everything needs a real life adaptation 🤦♂️🤦♂️
So right!
THE END 👏🏽👏🏽
@@sislertx you mean Pedowood?
Every Disney movie that was better off a cartoon
Yes! They need to stop with the real life adaptations already, redoing everything. Enough.
I don’t understand why they just didn’t go with the costume and makeup style the stage musical used and improve on it. It would have reduced the production costs.
yeah!!!! why DIDN'T they think of that?!
princessthyemis it’s the same with anything to do with business. Some people will always insist their way is better and they are desperate to get major cred. With this going down I bet people are desperately trying to downplay their involvement with the CGI fur idea.
@John Hillman what's wrong with her? She's super talented. It's not her fault, or anybody's that the movie didn't do well.
D'oh!😢
What went wrong?
*They made the movie*
That's not really fair of you to say, though. There are people who like Cats. Heck, I LOVE Cats.
@@kaylalezabeth7175 Perhaps but Cats box office numbers were because of tickets bundled into tourist packages at a time when most productions were not family friendly.
dante odinson You're saying this person has "no taste" because of actually LIKING the film?
Pot, meet kettle. 😔
MieKayla Singleton Do *not* listen to what that 'dante odison' said. I'm a firm believer in people being free to like whatever they like, even if it's this film (which I'm actually truly curious to see, despite the bad press it's getting).
@@kaylalezabeth7175 I loved Cats the musical but this was not Cats the musical it was a bastardized mess of a thing. Completely disrespectful to the original and it is fair of them to say just because you like it doesn't justify it. The studio lost over a hundred million dollars on this film, guarantee if they could do it again they wouldn't.
I can’t get over those proportions. They’re the size of mice.
Actually their size changes over the film
Cats are cute, adorable, and cuddly - people dressed up as cats are hideous.
Actually, the problem isn’t people dressed as cats, the theatrical version was amazing, you forgot they were humans. People covered in CGI fur was the problem
I can't believe they didn't get the message with all people hating on furries.
Especially Jennifer Hudson..
Tom Hooper finishing an entire movie at the last moment is me with my college projects. Like "I'm just glad I have something to give the audience/teacher"
This movie was like Schrodinger‘s cat you didn’t know if it was dead or alive but now we know
Jennifer Hudson face looks like she is allergic to cats😂
I think one of the other problems with this movie(aside from everything), it didn’t evoke the Broadway musical, it didn’t have the style, there’s a certain likable quality about the original Broadway that was unmistakable, and it was humans portraying cat-like behavior, not literal cats like the movie chose to do.
There was an energy to the Broadway musical, and thats likely due to the dynamic Broadway stars they had involved, it gave characters that personality, it was just a right mix of everything that made it special and so beloved, and why it’s one of the top Broadway shows off all time.
I didn't actually see the movie (would never), but I've seen enough to know this is exactly right. The musical play it's so much fun, and the characters are so great, and the dancing and everything... They changed so much for the new movie, not just the look up the characters! I don't think it stood a chance no matter how much they tried to fix the CGI.
All the commercials have Jennifer Hudson just hiding behind something or crying
they had a top notch cast, great dancers and amazing singers, they could just have done another musical or something else! with that budget they could have done something brilliant!
This movie was not jellicle.
Ivan P. Wa wa.
Oh no, it was 100% jellicle. :D
This is what the people in birdbox saw before they killed themselves
Jeff G hahha best comment !!
looool
That and catwoman the movie
Roflmao
I don't get it
Cats: one of the biggest, longest running Broadway plays of all time. Let's ruin it by making it into a movie.
Well, the old movie was equally as cringey if not more if I remember correctly.
Answer: someone actually got the idea that it would make a great movie.
...and someone was convinced to pay for it.
This is what my dad and I were talking about the other day
They were high on weed, lsd and dmt. You cannot fault them.
I wonder what happened to that someone?
iflarnted well if we’re lucky? That person will never work in Hollywood again.
Cats made Sharkboy and Lavagirl looked like citizen kane
i remember liking sharkboy and lava girl :3
Gold
Buzz Lightyear at least Sharkboy and Lavagirl’s excuse was that it was written by a child. This live action movie has no excuse to be *THAT* bad! It could had worked as an animated movie but live action CGI cat people are a go. And don’t get me started on the live action CGI cockroaches! Ewww!
Amy L i liked it.... when i was 7 years old
Cats barely counts as a musical. Characters wandering unto the scene, declaring who they are and then leaving again is NOT a story, not even an episodic one.
The answer: They made the movie.
Well no it could be better with just pure animation and not with CGI
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏💯💯
Tom Hooper finishing his movie is just like me finishing my college assignment, barely half an hour before handling it to the teacher.
Imagine if it was a fully animated feature rather than this hap-hazard “this is what a furry is right?” CGI human blunder.
Shoulda went back to Steven Spielberg to revive his old concept for an animated film adaptation. It’s a shame.
It's true. Not everything has to be live action. I hate how there is still a stigma that cartoons are for kids
People: Tom hoopers cats is the worst musical ever
2012 Les Mis: * noms on baguette in happiness*
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
Tom Hooper also directed 2012 les mis... just saying
Everyone : we want ThunderCats movie!
Hollywood : say no more
Me: mom can we have thundercats
Mom: we have thundercats at home
Thundercats at home: Cats 😰
What went wrong? Aside from taking away what makes Cats special (ie, the costuming, the live unedited dancing, the live unedited acrobatics, the live unautotuned singing, the staging and audience interactivity) and making it into a 99% CGI mess that doesn't even look good when it's supposed to, with a plot so thin you can see through it?
*Oh wait*
Truth: There are many things in life we should not adapt to.
Skipping the obvious (that they decided to make the movie in the first place), the big error was over-reliance on CGI. They should've followed the lead of the stage version and actually dressed everyone up as cats, then used CGI to tweak it.
Hmmm, musicals shouldn't be turned into movies. Who asked for this? No one, or EXTREMELY FEW..
Extremely few morons
I wanted to see it. And it was good to me
The right musicals can be movies like "in the heights" ,this just wasn't the right one to be a movie since it wasn't understandable and has no plot .
@@barikpena I completely agree. I am not a musical person, but do know that certain ones can get done. However, I think they should be left as musicals. The one's to be turned into movies have to tell a story. This definitely didn't.
@@barikpena i can't wait to see In The Heights, but the version of CATS was ok to me
Hollywood needs to start coming up with new ideas. Its really sad they are so willing to throw money at old IPs that fail. Might as well try a new IP.
What is IP?
@@fynkozari9271 IP = "Intellectual Property". In this case, it more or less means "story ideas", or perhaps "franchises". Basically, he's saying Hollywood needs to invest in new stories rather than sequels, prequels, remakes, spinoffs, and so forth.
@@waltonsimons12 Amen! Amen! Amen!👏😁. That is what I have been saying for years. Originality with an ACTUAL STORYLINE where special effects are to be used sparingly and NOT such an overpolished, glossy magazine style filming. Actually, I love how the films looked in the 70s and 80s. Also, give fresh and never-before seen actors a chance. Some of the "brand names" are getting to be boring. For instance, if there is a original story where the main character is quirky, STOP HIRING JOHNNY DEPP! ! Though that has become his trademark I'd rather have others get the chance to exhibit.
Ewa Sadowski Given what happened to him after his finger got chomped off. I agree Hollywood needs to give that man a break.
What’s wrong is it looks creepy and cringy as hell.
This movie would have been sh*tty either way, finished or not.
Jennifer Hudson SCREECHING Memories in the trailer was enough to keep me away from this mess.
I saw it last night, I feel like it could have worked had there been more dialogue between the characters rather than switching from song to song with almost no interruption. Another thing is that while some of the actor’s faces blended in as seamlessly as they could as a cat, more others didn’t. Particularly Taylor Swift’s character. Watching the movie you sense that that’s the performance they’re making you wait on and she finally shows up and it’s Taylor Swift’s face but rounder and orange. I also don’t understand why they had human hands
Not sure what your problem is conceptualizing this, You cant do JAZZ HANDS with paws.
It should have been fully animated - Studio Ghibli did a beautifully animated film with cats dancing and acting like humans - The Cat Returns (The Cat's Repayment in Japanese). THAT is how you do it. ;-)
Somebody actually approved Cats to be a full live action movie, that's everything wrong with the movie
Cats has always been one of those weird pieces. No one has ever been sure about how to feel about it.
I saw the stage musical and loved it. I refuse to see this train wreck. It might taint my memories.
It was inevitable it was going to be a massive flop. Should of done it as an animation .
Sonic: wait we can fix it!
People: ok, looks dope 👌 🔥
Cats: wait we can fix it...?
People: DONT ✋
I heard on the radio today that people say it is better to watch this movie when you're on drugs...apparently it makes more sense.
Heather I at an edible before seeing it and enjoyed it so much!! It’s literally one of my favorite movies ever. My kids and I saw it twice in two days!
I love this movie I don't care what the mob says!
Why?
@@southlondon86 The music, choreography and cinematography.
@@southlondon86 and because I can.
My partner is a dissenting voice as well. She really enjoyed the movie. She said it was a _huge_ improvement on the musical, in that it had an actual storyline and the performances were great. She genuinely enjoyed the movie and said she would watch it again with no issues.
@@Mentocthemindtaker Same here (I would watch it again). Can't wait to buy the Bluray when it's released!
And Idris Elba was ashamed for participating in Thor movies...?
If it's not broke, don't fix it. 'Cats' could've been remembered as the Broadway hit that it was. But now it'll only be remembered for its box office bomb that went nuclear.
"Sing a song of sixpence, a pants-load full of pies", "Four and twenty cockroaches danced before my eyes", "When the pants burst open, the pies fell to the ground", "Causing all the cats to jump into the Thames and drown".
No, the problem was not the idea to make the movie or use cgi, it’s just the design they chose. They should’ve just given minor cat characteristics and kept their clothes on
The live show is a lot of fun and ran for 15 years at the wintergarden theater. Then Hooper changed it and animated it.
Any video game developer could have anticipated this. This happens in the video game industry CHRONICALLY.
They did what they did to Spyro and countless others. Note this is a Christmas film. They rushed it for a film that isn’t even about Christmas 🤦🏻♀️
Lmaoooo CATS was actually amazing tho
Whoever did your subtitles deserves a reward. Best I've seen by far
I still don't know what went allegedly wrong. I've watched it five times in theaters. As far as I'm concerned almost nothing went wrong.
I loved this movie, I am so sick of all you so called critics pulling it to pieces, some very good actors in this and was appreciated by me and my family.
Tbh I saw the musical first and we left not even halfway through because it made no sense whatsoever. From the complicated names you’re forced to remember, the character introductions literally during the whole thing, and zero plot, it just looked like a bunch of people dressed as cats dancing around and saying Jellicle, whatever that means, over and over and over again. I’m a big theatre and musical theatre nerd so both the musical and the movie adaptation disappointed me.
why do everyone hates this filmmmmm?!?
i mean its beautiful
Maybe because it's a re imagination of something that used to be beautiful and artistic. My biggest problem with the movie is the characters, some of the most important ones got less exposure and Victoria isn't even the lead character but this story seemed to revolve around her. There's the CGI, their overall look, and the use of famous people to try to get people interested in it. Just my opinion though, there seems to be people who enjoyed it.
Jennifer Hudson sang Memories so beautifully it brought tears to my eyes, she is beautiful singer and actually Taylor Swift did a really good singing Macavity, and all the dancers from the Royal London Ballet did beautifully, especially Francesca Hayward , for it being her first movie and all of the other singers actors and comedians in the movie did avery good job, Judi Dench, Idris Elba, Jason Derulo, James Corden, even Rebel, they should be given props for what they were given and what they did, even if it might not have been the best Broadway show to be made into a movie, to me a musical is just a Broadway play made more accessible for those of us who can't go to them to watch,and my favorite cat is Mr. Mistoffelees, I just love him and his song, and when I saw the Les Twins from World of Dance, I knew even though they were cats, I knew it was them just by their dancing, it was awesome to witness! 😊🎶
The idea to make Cats a movie makes The Emoji movie an all time classic 💩
*Sees the title*
Me : It got a greenlight?
They should release behind the scenes documentary instead. It’ll make more money. I for one certainly go watch it.
James Corden. The answer is and always will be James Corden.
If James condom is in it. The movie is well on the way to be a disaster for a start.
@@jackflash743 Couldn't agree more.
Pros: 1) he's fat.
Cons: 1) he's fat.
2) he is not funny.
3) he is untalented.
4) I'd rather catch syphilis than watch him.
Cats thought it was gonna get a oscar 😭😭😭
Actually, audiences left the theatre wondering why quite so many people hated this movie so much. For me, it was quite a whimsical, fun movie! I’m not saying the animation wasn’t initially off putting, but the fantastic music and exceptional dancing kept this movie from dragging on or feeling too out of place. Come on people; you need to be able to go into this movie knowing you’re going to have to suspend your disbelief a bit. Once you start rolling with the idea that, yup, these are cat people, it’s a really fun time to sit back and enjoy these goofy/fun/sincere performances!
People in my audience clapped.
They should have taken after the Sonic the Hedgehog movie..
And pushed back the release date!
It's not just the terrible CGI. There is NO PLOT whatsoever!
The design is too creepy. Everything else just added to it.
I like how people care more about a stupid movie that producers worked hard to make then the fact that Australia is being burnt to the ground
I love how they thought that THIS was Oscar bait. For your consideration... lmao
It was 100% the bozo director's fault because he had zero clue how to blend and balance CGI with makeup and practical effects. This needs a "Snyder cut" version from a competent director.
The cgi was what bothered me the least about this movie the movie was bad not because of the cgi it was bad because it was lacking tons of energy some actors looked like they are almost falling asleep during their own song (like the girl that plays victpria), the songs were changed from the original to get a more pop like sound wich is completly unneeded in a musical and most of the "dancing" is just them crawling around on the floor what would made this movie better is not better cgi its if they would use actually broadway preformers who can really sing and dance and knows what they are doing instead of just using big names , the stage show of cats is truly amazing it has amazing dances and songs people need to understand that just because the movie is bad dosent mean the musical is bad.
If all the bad reviews are true (I haven’t seen the film), then “Cats” is going to sweep the Razzies.
They’re gonna be the new Adam Sandler Razzie sweep
Oh it is...I promise you that lol
*Emojis has entered the chat*
Like I formally said .
It doesn't take *Eminem* to end ones career 😂
Amen to that
The reason why Cats can never work as a movie is simple. Cats is all spectacle and lacks a coherent storyline. I’m not saying that all musicals don’t have storylines, but a musical mainly is entertaining through the spectacle of the sets, music, performances, etc. Movies are not just spectacle (despite what Michael Bay thinks) and need a plot to work. Cats doesn’t even have a bad or experimental storyline, it’s just a bunch of characters individually introducing themselves through song. There is nothing for a movie going audience to get invested in. Cats is incapable of having a quality theatrical adaptation due to how the play is structured on a fundamental level.
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I think if this movie came out 15 years ago, and didn’t use all the CGI, and had entirely new producers who didn’t force all the rushed decisions, it could’ve been enjoyable.
Like, there are scenes that work. Like the original model for Sonic the Hedgehog. One of the trailers worked pretty well, despite the. Weird looking model. But what was with Cats’ director and producers? Was this like their first movie ever?
I'm sorry. I blamed poor character designer and CQI team of this catastrophe, when I apparently should have blamed the producers and their insane scheludes. I feel like the digital artist team did not get the appreciation they deserved while doing this.
I’ll say it in less than a 4 min video. They rushed the CGI because this was the first time something like this was made so they needed more time ( I would say 2 years because that’s how long animation takes). Just because you get all these actors doesn’t means it is good. Lastly Cat plot is confusing as hell and doesn’t make any sense
I thought it was just ME, so this clip was very much apreciated...
Turning this musical into a movie wasn’t the problem! The problem was the way it was made. Tom Hooper and Universal were being so selfish for rushing this and for alienating the public outrage over the incomplete cgi.😡🤦♀️
It was released that’s what happened
The End 😂😂😂😂
The problem with cats is it's a theatrical play that has never had a real plot. You don't go see cats for the storyline. You are their to see the set, music, and how the actors move like cats
Watching the actors dance without cgi looks really cool. The cgi ruins it
A musical in theater can handle cats , but a movie doesn't translate well on a movie
I'm sorry, but I actually went to see this, with my husband & daughters...and all 4 of us LOVED it. We weren't creeped out by "human faces on cat bodies". It was a lot like the stage play costumes...and no one complained about those. I found it magical and fun. The ONLY thing I didn't like about it was Rebel Wilson.
you tell em'.
The main problem is that the source material is for young children, but the movie was targeting adult audiences without adding more plot and character development for adults. The stage production can get away with sticking with the infantile story line because of the in-person singing and dancing distracting away from the lack of story. The movie isn't able to mirror the level of distraction that the stage production has, so its failures in trying to be for adults become ever more obvious.
A CAT SUICIDE CULT PLOT IS FOR YOUNG CHILDREN?????
It’s quite simple where they went wrong. They put it before cameras and started filming. I’ve not seen the film, but have seen the stage show. The reality is, Lloyd Webber used a series of poems by TS Elliot for his inspiration that were not Elliot as his best. There wasn’t anything in the poems that could be described as a plot. The musical therefore had nothing that could be described as a proper storyline - just a basic premise and a load of character portraits. The whole “Old Deuteronomy gets kidnapped and a few songs later is suddenly rescued without much of a struggle” thing felt like an afterthought. Where the show succeeded (certainly in its earlier production) was in the intimacy of the stage setting. There were ‘cat’ dancers going out into the audience and curling up on audience members laps. In the original West End run, kids came from the audience and gathered around Old Deuteronomy on one of his songs, which was encouraged in subsequent performances I that first run. The show relied on its music, clever staging, interaction with the audience and the atmosphere of being a live show. Take it out of a theatrical environment, and I’m sure that costs it some of its appeal and highlights the fact that there is no proper story to get behind. It’s the last musical I would choose for a movie adaptation.
I've seen and loved cats five times over the years. And I enjoyed this adaptation, for me it was entertaining. I don't like to criticize people's work. It was different, but sometimes different can be good too. 🤔 I went to the movies with a friend who had never seen cats before, he enjoyed it too.😪
It's not just the animation, it's the fact that they added "big" celebrity names to try and ensure success. For example, in every trailer I saw, Taylor Swift was mentioned but only had a few scenes.
I'm gonna watch it on 'stream,' JUST SO I CAN LAUGH MY ASS OFF!!!!!
Honestly the shots of them as just people dancing look cool. Stick with makeup and costumes for this show!
Was there some international conspiracy? My friend and I loved it. All the music, which everyone loves as the theatre production did so well, is still there and the choreography was excellent. I prefer the theatre version but this is still very good. Not at all does it warrant such outrage!
Hollywood is slowly but surely learning what it's like to be just another "content creator" 🤔
I loved it!!!
The only thing wrong with it is Eddie Redmayne wasn’t in it
how many talents can be wasted by poor decisions? this movie is the answer
amazing dancers, singers, actors and post production studios... but the result... omg
I may be the only one saying this...but...I liked it. I liked it enough to go out and buy the thing and say that I liked it (expecting to be publically humiliated for doing so). I just don't get all the hate. The songs were catchy, got stuck in my head, the acting was great, the choreography was great, I don't know what people were expecting from a movie about a West End/Broadway musical about alley cats living on the streets of London, which was based on a book of poetry! I think art is art, and people need to try and suspend their beliefs, and just go into something non-judgementally and view it with an unbiased and innocent eye. I know that is asking a lot of most of society, but I find that doing so makes things much more enjoyable to view.
I don't know... As afraid I am to see the movie, I feel like it would be something kind of beautiful on its own. It's unique, I guess. People don't tend to understand unique until much later.
That being said, it's unacceptable how little time the production for the film was given. If they had enough time, producers probably could have given a bit more purpose to the movie. Sorry, Universal. You didn't catch the audience this time, but you'll come back around with something stunning - I'm sure. :)
What went wrong was that someone thought making Cats into a movie was a good idea
People bout to go out in public and act like cats.....
Whoever thought of making this movie, gotta a really fucked up mind bruh💀😂
I loved the play! AND I loved the movie!!! The play was better than the movie, but the issues being blamed for panning the movie were not a big deal for me or the 3 people I saw it with. I never listen to critics because, as their name implies, all they do is criticize.....which sets the public up to find fault with the movie.
We went in excited to see it, and we loved it! If you loved the theater production, and/or you love cats, you'll love this movie!