Lifetime hull warranty! Old town just sent me a new ap 120 after two years because a crack developed on my deck. Even had my motor replaced because I abused it a lot. All for free and so quick, customer support is amazing
Chad thank you for making this video. I’ve been on the fence about what kayak to get for a while. Being new to kayaks I need something that I can just set in the water and go. And sense this boat is already comes with a motor and your review has sealed the deal for me. Again thank you for this video.
Great walk thru Chad and whatever color they would add would be a great addition to the line up. And YES REAL CAMO is a MUST, I got the Amber one cuz I wasn't attracted by the Phobic and I will miss the camo color of my Hobie outback....
Camo is definitely an s-tier color 🤣.. I've got the paddle 120 as my first big boy kayak and I love it! Was considering pulling the trigger on the autopilot early 2024 and this just solidifies the desire! Great video, thank you for making it!
Hey Chad, great video. I really like what Old Town has done for the kayak industry in motorized kayaks. I almost bought one a while ago, but since I already have a Vibe Shearwater 125 that quite frankly have a ton of money in, I opted to put a Motor Guide Xi3 on the bow. An Auto pilot 136 will probably be my nest purchase. You can't have too many kayaks! My biggest concern with putting a bow mounted trolling motor on my kayak was safety. I did find a way to put a kill switch on it and feel more comfortable and safer with it. While safety should be every kayaker's concern and priority, camo probably ranks pretty high on the list. Come on Old Town, get with the Sportsman Program!
Must use the Wilderness Cart. The Malone wore out in 1 year. Several people have pointed that out. Wilderness all day long. Thanks Chad Appreciate your review. I"m into my 3rd year with this kayak and use die electric grease on my connectors. I also clear the plugs of debris every 2 or 3 trips. I'm careful and still have removed a ton of sand from the connections. I use it 100% saltwater bays.. Only slight amt of rust on motor mount and rudder plate. I do not rinse the boat every time,,,, also aboutt every 3rd or 4th trip.
Great video I haven’t made my decision yet on a kayak but this might be the one .I have always fished from a bass boat and you got me wanting to start fishing some tournaments great inviorment you have started 👍
Chad, I love this video. I wish I could have afforded it; however I did buy the Old Town sportsman 106 and I love it. With the money I saved I bought a bending branches 250 cm paddle which I also love. I know the boat is just a tool but I've caught my largest and most fish since I got the boat. I think it's a combination of the leg room and stability. Thanks for what you do and the advice you gave me. You Rock!!!
I love my 136, got it late this year, but got to get out a few times before winter, love the extra length over the120. As someone that had two back operations the seat is very comfortable to sit for a longer time.
@@Nikitikitavvi first time on the water mine hit 4.1 and sustained that speed for a long distance then after 3 hours of fishing , the return trip it was the same speed.
The 136 is on my short list and truthfully the lack of color is a major sticking point for me. I'd even like to be able to order custom colors at an additional price. The second sticking point is the #45 motor, would love to see a #55 or even 24v #70 thrust.
It was between this and the Nucanoe Unlimited. I chose the Unlimited with xi3 for a few reasons: 1) Unbeatable stability 2) Can throw on a second seat and bring the kid/wife 3) completely open deck and rigability 4) with the xi3 I can swap to any other kayal I choose in future. I will say the biggest con is it is not fast enough with just the bow mount for bigger lakes, but it does come in camo! And please any ideas for the dead man's switch with Xi3 would be awesome
Chad, Long time no comment I hope all is well with the family and you? The only thing you didn't get into is how does it paddle? I know it's a motor primary platform but when you do paddle it how does it perform?
Couldn’t agree more on the camo color for the Sportsman. The only reason I haven’t bought one is because I can’t stand the orange and blue version. Green or camo and I’m in.
Did you ever consider the 136? I have the 136 available and the 120 is not, but being a big guy, I was thinking the 136 was more for me, it'll be loaded in the back of a truck and not car topper. If you do a video of a comparison, I'll look for it. Thanks, great videos.
I have the hobie outback ….. awesome kayak. However if I had known about the old town auto pilot at the time I’m sure I would have bought that one. I have more money in my outback with power pole and add ons than a good battery and auto pilot. I believe the seat in the old town is a lil higher and a lil more stable than the outback. Maybe one day I’ll switch to the auto pilot.
It's actually crazy that you made that statement towards the end of the video, Thats honestly ONE of the reasons why I didn't purchase this kayak. Also, the main reason is the sticker price is outrageous.
Yo Chad- Thank you for these AP reviews, they’ve been VERY helpful. Could you get a bit more specific about your battery usage? For instance: How much juice do you have left after running your 100amp hard for 8 hrs? Do you recommend a battery meter for this rig? If so, which one?
Chad I am actually going to look at this Kayak tomorrow, I would love to test one out, you said you where is N. Alabama. where bouts Currently I am in Jasper TN. Anyway we could could meet up?
I think they should have put a 65-pound thrust motor in it for the same price. But for me, as just fun fishing every couple of weeks and getting out on the pond's small lakes and small rivers it's the sportsmen 106 Min-Kota which just went up in 365 bucks in 2023 3365 bucks
it is a bit expensive and heavy! Not for the weak guys. For the price, I wish they also include the foot pedal as well. Just in case battery die you still have foot pedal to get yourself back. But to be fair, you can mount a motor on a regular kayak for far less. overall it is a good yak.
It’s not really practical to have a motorized kayak that also doubled as a pedal kayak. People say this all the time, but they forget you don’t just drop a pedal drive in. You have to have a rudder system to steer with a pedal drive and either the seat or pedals or both have to slide to accommodate the different leg lengths for the angler. The components to accomplish this and the labor to add it to the kayak make it expensive. That’s why it’s not practical to “add a pedal drive” to a kayak that isn’t designed for it
So what I think you said is when I win the OT Autopilot 120 in the Catch22 giveaway I’m gonna need a trailer and a hitch on my Buick Encore. I currently cartop and fish from the OT 106 MK and hope to upgrade to the 120 eventually.
@@JFetcie-n-Fishing You’ll end up with a trailer. I’m getting a trailer asap. I’m beating up my kayak at some of the launches and I use a Wilderness cart which I just wore out the axles last Friday.
For a motorized kayak I think it is king for sure! But I'm not huge fan of motorized kayaks. Trolling motor noise is killing your stealth, sound just like a bass boat in area to the fish. I prefer pedaling or paddling & can do either all day with ease. Just seems little lazy to have trolling motor o a yak in my eyes. But to each thier own, some people might not have strength to pedal/paddle all day!
Do I get rid of a 14’ alumacraft jon boat with a small deck for this kayak? I want to downsize to keep my foot print smaller at the house but if the kayak is that heavy and would be easier to trailer is that defeating the purpose of what I’m trying to do? And would it make sense to do a pedal drive that can eventually be powered? I’m at a stand still with what to do. Any ideas would be great
Great question about trailering. It does indeed totally defeat the purpose ( from my experience having both a 106MK and a 14’ jon). It is way more exhausting to launch heavy kayak without a trailer than it is to launch my jonboat with a trailer
@@mjt1214 depends what you want to do. For fishing tournaments the extra weight and having to trailer is no big deal. If you want to get into more off grid places you couldn’t get otherwise then it’s probably not the right product for you
@@devinwillis7787 I would have a hard time launching my Old Town 106MK in those off the grid places though. The big fancy fishing kayaks are bulky and heavy. A cheap $200 sit-in kayak that only weighs 30lbs is another matter. Put a milk crate in the back with a few rod holders on one of those and good times ahead with the ability to get to those spots. Launching my old town 106 is limited to boat ramps for me due to the weight (i.e. it’s basically useless to me since I already own a tricked out jonboat)
@@mjt1214 the 106 isn’t even that heavy lol. With a wilderness system cart I haul me 170lb one all over through small paths down hills by bridges and stuff. Launching at a boat ramp is worse since you have to deal with all the idiots in pontoons
Lifetime hull warranty! Old town just sent me a new ap 120 after two years because a crack developed on my deck. Even had my motor replaced because I abused it a lot. All for free and so quick, customer support is amazing
Chad thank you for making this video. I’ve been on the fence about what kayak to get for a while. Being new to kayaks I need something that I can just set in the water and go. And sense this boat is already comes with a motor and your review has sealed the deal for me. Again thank you for this video.
Great walk thru Chad and whatever color they would add would be a great addition to the line up.
And YES REAL CAMO is a MUST, I got the Amber one cuz I wasn't attracted by the Phobic and I will miss the camo color of my Hobie outback....
Camo is definitely an s-tier color 🤣.. I've got the paddle 120 as my first big boy kayak and I love it! Was considering pulling the trigger on the autopilot early 2024 and this just solidifies the desire! Great video, thank you for making it!
Hey Chad, great video. I really like what Old Town has done for the kayak industry in motorized kayaks. I almost bought one a while ago, but since I already have a Vibe Shearwater 125 that quite frankly have a ton of money in, I opted to put a Motor Guide Xi3 on the bow. An Auto pilot 136 will probably be my nest purchase. You can't have too many kayaks! My biggest concern with putting a bow mounted trolling motor on my kayak was safety. I did find a way to put a kill switch on it and feel more comfortable and safer with it. While safety should be every kayaker's concern and priority, camo probably ranks pretty high on the list. Come on Old Town, get with the Sportsman Program!
Appreciate ya paving the way for kayak fishing and still having drive to keep making content!
Thanks Hunter! I appreciate that.
Thanks Hunter! I appreciate that.
Must use the Wilderness Cart. The Malone wore out in 1 year. Several people have pointed that out. Wilderness all day long. Thanks Chad Appreciate your review. I"m into my 3rd year with this kayak and use die electric grease on my connectors. I also clear the plugs of debris every 2 or 3 trips. I'm careful and still have removed a ton of sand from the connections. I use it 100% saltwater bays.. Only slight amt of rust on motor mount and rudder plate. I do not rinse the boat every time,,,, also aboutt every 3rd or 4th trip.
I have the 120MK and love it! I was really hoping for old town to come out with a auto pilot version 2.0 for 2023 to add to my growing fleet.
Great video I haven’t made my decision yet on a kayak but this might be the one .I have always fished from a bass boat and you got me wanting to start fishing some tournaments great inviorment you have started 👍
Chad, I love this video. I wish I could have afforded it; however I did buy the Old Town sportsman 106 and I love it. With the money I saved I bought a bending branches 250 cm paddle which I also love. I know the boat is just a tool but I've caught my largest and most fish since I got the boat. I think it's a combination of the leg room and stability. Thanks for what you do and the advice you gave me. You Rock!!!
Thanks Skip. That’s going to be the next boat that I review from Old Town.
I had the 106 pdl before upgrading to the AP120. There were a few times this past season where I wish I didn’t sell my PDL 😅
Outstanding video!! Thanks for sharing!!
@@ChadHooverFishing do you have a review video on the 106 pdl? Looking to pull the trigger this week.
I love my 136, got it late this year, but got to get out a few times before winter, love the extra length over the120. As someone that had two back operations the seat is very comfortable to sit for a longer time.
Hey buddy, I heard that 136 is slower and tops out at around 3.5 mph... Is it true?
@@Nikitikitavvi first time on the water mine hit 4.1 and sustained that speed for a long distance then after 3 hours of fishing , the return trip it was the same speed.
@@jaymiller286 Thank you for the reply! And wow seems that you don't sacrifice much speed going with the bigger kayak :)
I run 2 60 amp Amped Outdoors batteries in parallel. They will both fit in the battery box. Camo is a must.
The 136 is on my short list and truthfully the lack of color is a major sticking point for me. I'd even like to be able to order custom colors at an additional price. The second sticking point is the #45 motor, would love to see a #55 or even 24v #70 thrust.
It was between this and the Nucanoe Unlimited. I chose the Unlimited with xi3 for a few reasons:
1) Unbeatable stability 2) Can throw on a second seat and bring the kid/wife 3) completely open deck and rigability 4) with the xi3 I can swap to any other kayal I choose in future. I will say the biggest con is it is not fast enough with just the bow mount for bigger lakes, but it does come in camo! And please any ideas for the dead man's switch with Xi3 would be awesome
Chad,
Long time no comment I hope all is well with the family and you? The only thing you didn't get into is how does it paddle? I know it's a motor primary platform but when you do paddle it how does it perform?
I realize it's a simple thing but I also like how they put the little floating attachment onto the Deadman switch in case you drop it in the water
Great video! That is one awesome kayak! Would you say the stability is as good as the ss127?
Awesome video! The speed is my only complaint. I top out at 3.6/3.8 with all the gear I carry.
Man, the camo suggestion would make this boat perfect.
Couldn’t agree more on the camo color for the Sportsman. The only reason I haven’t bought one is because I can’t stand the orange and blue version. Green or camo and I’m in.
Absolutely love mine, great video
Thank you
Looks awesome. I agree about the colors.... need a true camo.
Did you ever consider the 136? I have the 136 available and the 120 is not, but being a big guy, I was thinking the 136 was more for me, it'll be loaded in the back of a truck and not car topper. If you do a video of a comparison, I'll look for it. Thanks, great videos.
I did and I also did a video on it as well. I didn’t do it as a comparison video but I did videos for each of them separately
I saw the one where a pro had the 136, I also saw the one with you on the 120. I was wondering which one you preferred. Thanks
@@ChadHooverFishing
I have the hobie outback ….. awesome kayak. However if I had known about the old town auto pilot at the time I’m sure I would have bought that one. I have more money in my outback with power pole and add ons than a good battery and auto pilot. I believe the seat in the old town is a lil higher and a lil more stable than the outback. Maybe one day I’ll switch to the auto pilot.
One thing that Oldtown should include is the lighting on the bow. Coast Guard mandate the lights and they must be registered also due to motor.
Hey Chad you mentioned that old town had a replacement plug. I can’t seem to find it on old town site!
Head on the nail brother!!! Great review!
It's actually crazy that you made that statement towards the end of the video, Thats honestly ONE of the reasons why I didn't purchase this kayak. Also, the main reason is the sticker price is outrageous.
Still cheaper than a hobie
I love my Sportsman 136! I think if you are a bigger guy the 136 is a better option.
I am a little confused, why do you need a prop wrench? .... Does the prop need to come off for some reason?
Yo Chad-
Thank you for these AP reviews, they’ve been VERY helpful. Could you get a bit more specific about your battery usage? For instance: How much juice do you have left after running your 100amp hard for 8 hrs? Do you recommend a battery meter for this rig? If so, which one?
Thanks. I’m going to do a whole video on batteries, wiring and electronics this winter. Thanks for the suggestion
Love the Camo idea.
Great review, I agree, camo would be great.
Chad I am actually going to look at this Kayak tomorrow, I would love to test one out, you said you where is N. Alabama. where bouts Currently I am in Jasper TN. Anyway we could could meet up?
Where do you get your kayak cushion seat from?
I think they should have put a 65-pound thrust motor in it for the same price. But for me, as just fun fishing every couple of weeks and getting out on the pond's small lakes and small rivers it's the sportsmen 106 Min-Kota which just went up in 365 bucks in 2023 3365 bucks
Love me some Old Town Autopilot 120 "KIYADILLAC"!
hey man do the dl+ batteries work the same as normal lithium batteries or ar they just for start up
They work just the same (or better) as any other lithium batteries. They just also have a CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) rating on many of their batteries
@@ChadHooverFishing would you still recommend that battery or ar there better optiones
The only thing I don’t like about my is the holes for the wiring ports aren’t big enough to run livescope wires
Need horizontle rod placement/storage on these and better colors.
it is a bit expensive and heavy! Not for the weak guys. For the price, I wish they also include the foot pedal as well. Just in case battery die you still have foot pedal to get yourself back. But to be fair, you can mount a motor on a regular kayak for far less. overall it is a good yak.
It’s not really practical to have a motorized kayak that also doubled as a pedal kayak. People say this all the time, but they forget you don’t just drop a pedal drive in. You have to have a rudder system to steer with a pedal drive and either the seat or pedals or both have to slide to accommodate the different leg lengths for the angler. The components to accomplish this and the labor to add it to the kayak make it expensive. That’s why it’s not practical to “add a pedal drive” to a kayak that isn’t designed for it
So what I think you said is when I win the OT Autopilot 120 in the Catch22 giveaway I’m gonna need a trailer and a hitch on my Buick Encore. I currently cartop and fish from the OT 106 MK and hope to upgrade to the 120 eventually.
I'm going to be cartopping mine
@@JFetcie-n-Fishing You’ll end up with a trailer. I’m getting a trailer asap. I’m beating up my kayak at some of the launches and I use a Wilderness cart which I just wore out the axles last Friday.
@JDLong58 I'd just get a boat at that point just get the load assist and you goodie
Can you change that to peddle?
No, you can’t just change a kayak to a pedal kayak. They have to be built as a pedal kayak.
@@ChadHooverFishing thanks
Great video Chad thank you
Considered this boat.... Couldn't see spending the $$ tho. Got the 120 PDL
Both pdls are the best boats. Can always mount a motor in the future in the power pole slot !
For a motorized kayak I think it is king for sure! But I'm not huge fan of motorized kayaks. Trolling motor noise is killing your stealth, sound just like a bass boat in area to the fish. I prefer pedaling or paddling & can do either all day with ease. Just seems little lazy to have trolling motor o a yak in my eyes. But to each thier own, some people might not have strength to pedal/paddle all day!
Do I get rid of a 14’ alumacraft jon boat with a small deck for this kayak? I want to downsize to keep my foot print smaller at the house but if the kayak is that heavy and would be easier to trailer is that defeating the purpose of what I’m trying to do? And would it make sense to do a pedal drive that can eventually be powered? I’m at a stand still with what to do. Any ideas would be great
Great question about trailering. It does indeed totally defeat the purpose ( from my experience having both a 106MK and a 14’ jon). It is way more exhausting to launch heavy kayak without a trailer than it is to launch my jonboat with a trailer
@@mjt1214 thanks for the insight. But the kayak I can get to lakes with out ramps I guess also. Perfect world would be to have both
@@mjt1214 depends what you want to do. For fishing tournaments the extra weight and having to trailer is no big deal. If you want to get into more off grid places you couldn’t get otherwise then it’s probably not the right product for you
@@devinwillis7787 I would have a hard time launching my Old Town 106MK in those off the grid places though. The big fancy fishing kayaks are bulky and heavy. A cheap $200 sit-in kayak that only weighs 30lbs is another matter. Put a milk crate in the back with a few rod holders on one of those and good times ahead with the ability to get to those spots. Launching my old town 106 is limited to boat ramps for me due to the weight (i.e. it’s basically useless to me since I already own a tricked out jonboat)
@@mjt1214 the 106 isn’t even that heavy lol. With a wilderness system cart I haul me 170lb one all over through small paths down hills by bridges and stuff. Launching at a boat ramp is worse since you have to deal with all the idiots in pontoons
Kayak kusion firm or regular?
Firm
Forget camo, I want one that looks like a log.
The price of batteries is one of the biggest reasons I stick with man power
Amazon ones are 300 for 100 ah and work fine