Ingemar Johansson was a fine fighter. He had some great battles with Floyd Patterson. As somewhat wrote earlier, he and Patterson became very good friends. That is a pretty good testimonial on what kind of man he was. He probably retired at a good time since we have seen and now know the damage that boxing can cause when boxers age. Thanks for the video.
He was looking to a fight with Liston after regaining his Euro Title but was KO'd by Brian London with only 9 seconds to go in a 10 round Johansson decison victory. He knew it was over but paterson remains the only man to beat him.
@@josephshields2922 The only fighter Ingemar ever lost to was Floyd. I guess that he’d probably last 2-4 rounds against Liston before being knocked out.
13:55 This has been mentioned elsewhere, but I wanted to leave the time stamp. The volley between Mr. Andres and Mr. Daly is outstanding. There has never been a moment like that in any of the shows so far; no regular panel member has been as loquacious, audacious, and gracious as Mr. Andrews, and I've seen them all. He was smoother than James Bond. ...And wow did Ms. Francis have eyes for Johansson lol
At around 14:50, John mentions that an old friend of his, Kyle Rote, is in the audience and is one of the greatest catchers there is. Kyle Rote as a football star in college as an all-American running back at SMU. He played 11 seasons for the New York Giants in the NFL; the first two were as a running back, but due to a knee injury he became a wide receiver for the other 9 seasons. At the time of this episode, Rote was still active. He retired in 1962 and became a coach and a broadcaster. His son, Kyle Rote, Jr., was a professional soccer player and is in the National Soccer Hall of Fame.
Have to say, being a 70s child, I know Eamonn Andrews for holding the red book and introducing guests on the UK version of This Is Your Life. His presence was rather passive and natural and the main distinctive qualities he had were his lopsided smile and that lilting Irish delivery particularly when he'd exclaim at the end....'This.....Is Yourrr Loife!' But HERE on these episodes of WML I've learned of a new side of Eamonn Andrews. Especially the one where he moderates in Daly's absence. Highly articulate, cool, calm, collected and oozing charm. There's an air of intellect to add to his air of authority. Good old Eamonn. (incidentally pronounced Aymon, not Eemon as Daly did near the beginning!)
Yes. I think Andrews didn’t realize that Daly was calling on him to start because he didn’t recognize the pronunciation of his name. You would think that a reporter/newsreader of that period like John Daly would have learned how to pronounce Éamon de Valera's name.
@@brad_8711 But Andrews lived and worked in Britain, where he was the host of their WML. So it could be said that they were fellow countrymen, at least in a broader sense of the word.
So this Eamonn Andrews was a British Television Presenter who hosted both the British versions of This Is Your Life and What's My Line. I see why they have him as a panelist on the Goody-Toddy USA version of this show. The Barmaid. Dorothy does it again! Came up with the lady's occupation. Bridal Veil Seller. This got pretty risque talking about rubber and in the bedroom and babies and worn continuously. But the questioning was respectful that families would be watching the show in 1960 just as mine did. Dorothy mentioned Ingemar Johannson in her opening introduction of Eamonn and now he shows up as a Mystery Gues. They day before the fight he shows up on the show as the Mystery Guest.
I'm reasonably sure that this is the Charles McCoy of Boonton who was in between his junior and senior year of college at this point, and if this is that McCoy, then he later went on to marry someone named JoAnn, and eventually became the Police Chief of Mountain Lakes (which is right next to Boonton), and retired in 1998 after serving in the force for 32 years. (And has since been head of corporate security for a computer firm.) It's sometimes hard to tell, if the person is in a summer job or what have you, but he's got the right timeline.
22:40 This is a first (as far as my watching WML). JCD says his usual, "Let's let the audience in the theater and the folks at home know exactly what your line is..." And the contestant leans over and pretends to whisper in JCD's ear!!!! JCD at first is off camera to our right but then decides to humor him and leans in to pretend to listen! lololol
Robert Melson He must have been watching "I've Got a Secret" where the contestant would (pretend to) whisper in Garry Moore's ear while the secret was superimposed over the video image for viewers at home. By the way, I'm sure there were plenty of viewers who were not "at home"--watching TV in hotels, dorms, barracks, clubs, bars--even on Sunday nights.
BARMAID IN ENGLISH PUB SELLS BRIDAL VEILS MOSQUITO EXTERMINATOR 18:23 Was that bird crap on the sleeve of his jacket? 22:40 Did he think the show was "I've Got a Secret"?
Cerf had some undeserved clout on the show. No one notices how Arlene lets Cerf guess the mystery guest even though she obviously knows who it is. Did he later publish her book(s)?
I have to laugh at everyone commenting how the two ladies were staring at Ingemar. everyone expects a guy to drool and hump a woman's leg like a dog, but when a woman admires a man and has naughty thoughts, SHOCKING.
Amusing to see Andrews and Daly try to outdo each other in semantic interpretation. Daly wins. Gil Fates's report of this mystery guest sequence in his book is in some ways inaccurate. What he reported may have happened backstage. News headline Tuesday: Dorothy loses eight dollars. Ingo should have gone to bed and stayed there.
soulierinvestments I haven't read Gil Fates's book. What does he say about this mystery guest sequence that we do not see in the video? I had never heard of Ingemar Johansson before I watched his first appearance on WML, but I agree with Mr. Daly that it's remarkable to see how, within a relatively short period of time, he went from a "sort of known" Mr. X to a mystery guest that the audience cheered for so excitedly .
SaveThe TPC Wish I could answer this for you, but my memory for these things is really embarrassing by comparison to soulierinvestments , who referred to this once as a "memory curse".We should all be so cursed.
As I recall, Fates wrote that someone on the panel looked at him in disbelief as to why he was on this show late at night instead of in bed. Ingo supposedly said that WML had brought him good luck once, it could do it again. Apparently not.
soulierinvestments Interesting -- thanks for responding. Arlene did ask him that, but he did not give the answer Fates described. Either there was further conversation later on, as you suggest, or Fates's own memory may have embellished the exchange a bit.
As a sports fan, I very much doubt his appearance on WML affected his performance in the fight. Pro baseball, basketball and hockey players play in back to back contests one night to the next. In baseball, they play Saturday night games followed by Sunday afternoon games. When I was in my youth, the Rangers would routinely play in Montreal or Toronto on a Saturday evening, travel overnight (including going through customs) and play at Madison Square Garden on Sunday evening. Johansson would have had plenty of time to go back to his hotel room, get a good 8 hours sleep, wake up by 8 or 9 AM and have plenty of time to relax and prepare before the fight on Monday evening.
He should have been tucked up in bed. He suffered his first defeat, and first of of 2 defeats to Floyd Patterson the day after, having previously beaten him. Loss 22-1 Floyd Patterson KO 5 (15) 20 June 1960 Polo Grounds, New York City, New York, United States Lost world heavyweight title
When Arlene asks him about being tucked up in bed, Ingemar opens his mouth to start to answer and, lo and behold, Daly interrupts and can't let the guest answer for himself.
Cerf interrupts Daly talking about the mystery guest to ask some stupid question the guest would be a fool to answer. Proof Cerf was is not only rude, and privileged on this show for some reason we’ll never know for sure, and an idiot desperate to show he is smart.
he knew he had lost before anything. he didn't even look like he was trying at this point. just wanted to lap up the last moments of fame. Johansson was one of the luckiest champions in history, & Floyd's insufferable glass jaw played a huge part in it.
Johansson had one of the best right hands in heavyweight history. He put away Eddie Machen easily enough (Liston couldn't do it). Patterson was only kayoed 5 times in 63 fights. What glass jaw?
![What's My Line? - Elaine May & Mike Nichols; Eamonn Andrews [panel] (Jun 26, 1960)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lYHMp3iuwdw/mqdefault.jpg)
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![What's My Line? - Nelson Eddy; Stanley Kramer [panel] (Jan 31, 1960)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wqoUxAiR9xE/mqdefault.jpg)
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The exchange between Eamonn Andrews and John Daly during the 2nd contestant was priceless.
It was so funny.
Ingemar Johansson was a fine fighter. He had some great battles with Floyd Patterson. As somewhat wrote earlier, he and Patterson became very good friends. That is a pretty good testimonial on what kind of man he was. He probably retired at a good time since we have seen and now know the damage that boxing can cause when boxers age. Thanks for the video.
He was looking to a fight with Liston after regaining his Euro Title but was KO'd by Brian London with only 9 seconds to go in a 10 round Johansson decison victory. He knew it was over but paterson remains the only man to beat him.
@@josephshields2922 Thanks for the information. It would have been an interesting fight between Liston and Johansson.
@@josephshields2922 The only fighter Ingemar ever lost to was Floyd. I guess that he’d probably last 2-4 rounds against Liston before being knocked out.
13:55 This has been mentioned elsewhere, but I wanted to leave the time stamp. The volley between Mr. Andres and Mr. Daly is outstanding. There has never been a moment like that in any of the shows so far; no regular panel member has been as loquacious, audacious, and gracious as Mr. Andrews, and I've seen them all. He was smoother than James Bond. ...And wow did Ms. Francis have eyes for Johansson lol
I think she wanted to go with him
Miss Ward, the English barmaid - was so attractive to me. Full figure, feminine, and intelligent! ♥
At around 14:50, John mentions that an old friend of his, Kyle Rote, is in the audience and is one of the greatest catchers there is. Kyle Rote as a football star in college as an all-American running back at SMU. He played 11 seasons for the New York Giants in the NFL; the first two were as a running back, but due to a knee injury he became a wide receiver for the other 9 seasons. At the time of this episode, Rote was still active. He retired in 1962 and became a coach and a broadcaster.
His son, Kyle Rote, Jr., was a professional soccer player and is in the National Soccer Hall of Fame.
Was surprised that the audience didn't acknowledge Daly's mention of Kyle Rote with applause. Rote was a great player with the NY Giants.
Our son is names after Kyle Rote, Sr. - and also Charlie Conerly who both played together in the latter part of the 1950s Giants!!!
Have to say, being a 70s child, I know Eamonn Andrews for holding the red book and introducing guests on the UK version of This Is Your Life. His presence was rather passive and natural and the main distinctive qualities he had were his lopsided smile and that lilting Irish delivery particularly when he'd exclaim at the end....'This.....Is Yourrr Loife!'
But HERE on these episodes of WML I've learned of a new side of Eamonn Andrews. Especially the one where he moderates in Daly's absence. Highly articulate, cool, calm, collected and oozing charm. There's an air of intellect to add to his air of authority. Good old Eamonn.
(incidentally pronounced Aymon, not Eemon as Daly did near the beginning!)
Yep. As a wee kid, I remember him as the original host of 'This is yerrr loife'
Yes. I think Andrews didn’t realize that Daly was calling on him to start because he didn’t recognize the pronunciation of his name. You would think that a reporter/newsreader of that period like John Daly would have learned how to pronounce Éamon de Valera's name.
....and for your information, US folks....The Red Lion is still, to this day, No.1 on the list of the most popular names for a British pub.
Dorothy and Arlene were staring hungrily at Ingemar Johansson as he walked out... :-)
They were both married to homosexuals.
@@jeffwalsh6015 really?
@@jeffwalsh6015 That's quite an outrageous statement by you. What have you got to back it up, bigmouth?
Yep! Martin Gabel always struck me as a classic closet Queen. @@jeffwalsh6015
Floyd Patterson and Ingemar Johansson had, despite their fights in the ring, a lifelong friendship. "GOOD!"" as Arlene would have said.
Floyd Patterson? Who? Never heard of him. :)
What's My Line? "Live and Learn"...Heh, heh...
@@WhatsMyLine He was on "Whats My Line" at least 2x!!!
I love the way Dorothy nods when JCD introduces the contestants to the panel.
I've always noticed that too!
J Cowan she’s so beautiful and always a class act
I love seeing Eamonn on the panel again!
Although he was probably pissed off when Daly said fellow countrywoman since he was Irish not English!
@@brad_8711 But Andrews lived and worked in Britain, where he was the host of their WML. So it could be said that they were fellow countrymen, at least in a broader sense of the word.
He had a great voice.
What a good looking man was Ingemar Johansen.
He was so handsome!!! Wow!!!
Förvånansvärt bra engelska faktiskt.
Suuulan -- Ja, Ingemar Johansson kunde engelska mycket bra. Jag tror, att han måste har varit en klok man.
Ingo has that European suaveness.
John tells the very Irish Eamonn that an English barmaid is his "fellow countrywoman". Ouch!
So this Eamonn Andrews was a British Television Presenter who hosted both the British versions of This Is Your Life and What's My Line. I see why they have him as a panelist on the Goody-Toddy USA version of this show.
The Barmaid. Dorothy does it again! Came up with the lady's occupation.
Bridal Veil Seller. This got pretty risque talking about rubber and in the bedroom and babies and worn continuously. But the questioning was respectful that families would be watching the show in 1960 just as mine did.
Dorothy mentioned Ingemar Johannson in her opening introduction of Eamonn and now he shows up as a Mystery Gues. They day before the fight he shows up on the show as the Mystery Guest.
Arlene has got her eyes on handsome Ingemar right out the curtain. After a few hundred of these WML you get to know Arlene's 'type' of hunk.
poetcomic1
Don't blame her. Hes mine too
To be fair, I've seen her on an earlier episode getting rather intimate with a ventriloquist's dummy!!! She's insatiable.
@@davidsanderson5918 Frank Gifford will always be her Numero Uno. Never saw her eyes light up like that.
i always thought she and Martin Gabel were an odd pairing. She was stunningly elegant and beautiful and he was totally out of his league with her
@@dennisbedard9850 : He was smart, classy, and good to her.
The following night Johansson was knocked out by Floyd Patterson who became the first man to regain the heavyweight crown.
I'm reasonably sure that this is the Charles McCoy of Boonton who was in between his junior and senior year of college at this point, and if this is that McCoy, then he later went on to marry someone named JoAnn, and eventually became the Police Chief of Mountain Lakes (which is right next to Boonton), and retired in 1998 after serving in the force for 32 years. (And has since been head of corporate security for a computer firm.) It's sometimes hard to tell, if the person is in a summer job or what have you, but he's got the right timeline.
In other words, you are speculating that this is the real McCoy.
Lois Simmons Bennett would be so proud!!
Great athlete & nice loopings man 👨
He did not say may the best man win cause he didn't want to take any sides and you're it
At 21:48 Arlis Francis is really staring at Ingemar. She's taking a liking???? 😀😀
Arlene
18:05- what the heck were they selling?
Ingo 🇸🇪 but they already knew that...
Was this the only time the name of the Mystery Guest was mentioned in the panelists' introductions?
Are you sure?
22:40 This is a first (as far as my watching WML). JCD says his usual, "Let's let the audience in the theater and the folks at home know exactly what your line is..." And the contestant leans over and pretends to whisper in JCD's ear!!!! JCD at first is off camera to our right but then decides to humor him and leans in to pretend to listen! lololol
Robert Melson He must have been watching "I've Got a Secret" where the contestant would (pretend to) whisper in Garry Moore's ear while the secret was superimposed over the video image for viewers at home. By the way, I'm sure there were plenty of viewers who were not "at home"--watching TV in hotels, dorms, barracks, clubs, bars--even on Sunday nights.
When John leans in the contestant clearly says "Mosquito Exterminator" so I'm not sure the kid actually knew what he was doing!
BARMAID IN ENGLISH PUB
SELLS BRIDAL VEILS
MOSQUITO EXTERMINATOR
18:23 Was that bird crap on the sleeve of his jacket? 22:40 Did he think the show was "I've Got a Secret"?
Cerf had some undeserved clout on the show. No one notices how Arlene lets Cerf guess the mystery guest even though she obviously knows who it is. Did he later publish her book(s)?
He was "friendly" with her!
After all they both live in Mt Kisco, NY as neighbors.
Arlene's hair has looked particularly lovely recently.
I have to laugh at everyone commenting how the two ladies were staring at Ingemar.
everyone expects a guy to drool and hump a woman's leg like a dog, but when a woman admires a man and has naughty thoughts, SHOCKING.
Johansson was really handsome.
I can't stop watching this show. Beats the mindless drivel generally seen "nowadays"...
Cram Master Graham
What does Arlene say at around 6:55 about passing that has John saying :“Why, Miss Francis!“ ?
I took my first pass and I didn't make it at Bennet
@@MrYfrank14 Thank you!
Arlene is toasted I do believe
Quite often,Dorothy often also
Amusing to see Andrews and Daly try to outdo each other in semantic interpretation. Daly wins.
Gil Fates's report of this mystery guest sequence in his book is in some ways inaccurate. What he reported may have happened backstage.
News headline Tuesday: Dorothy loses eight dollars. Ingo should have gone to bed and stayed there.
soulierinvestments
I haven't read Gil Fates's book. What does he say about this mystery guest sequence that we do not see in the video?
I had never heard of Ingemar Johansson before I watched his first appearance on WML, but I agree with Mr. Daly that it's remarkable to see how, within a relatively short period of time, he went from a "sort of known" Mr. X to a mystery guest that the audience cheered for so excitedly .
SaveThe TPC Wish I could answer this for you, but my memory for these things is really embarrassing by comparison to soulierinvestments , who referred to this once as a "memory curse".We should all be so cursed.
As I recall, Fates wrote that someone on the panel looked at him in disbelief as to why he was on this show late at night instead of in bed. Ingo supposedly said that WML had brought him good luck once, it could do it again. Apparently not.
soulierinvestments
Interesting -- thanks for responding. Arlene did ask him that, but he did not give the answer Fates described. Either there was further conversation later on, as you suggest, or Fates's own memory may have embellished the exchange a bit.
As a sports fan, I very much doubt his appearance on WML affected his performance in the fight. Pro baseball, basketball and hockey players play in back to back contests one night to the next. In baseball, they play Saturday night games followed by Sunday afternoon games. When I was in my youth, the Rangers would routinely play in Montreal or Toronto on a Saturday evening, travel overnight (including going through customs) and play at Madison Square Garden on Sunday evening.
Johansson would have had plenty of time to go back to his hotel room, get a good 8 hours sleep, wake up by 8 or 9 AM and have plenty of time to relax and prepare before the fight on Monday evening.
18:05 I am very curious about Sponsor that with a female walking hounded around???
Dorothy gonna lose some money!
Technically Eammon isn’t a countryman of the first contestant since he’s Irish. Ireland split from the UK in the 20’s.
Northern Ireland did not split from the UK, ONLY CATHOLIC IRELAND.
@@RonGerstein-tf5tphe was from Dublin which is in Ireland proper, not Northern Ireland.
Bennett has babies on the brain.
Bennett and John are funny bantering back and forth, but have a wonderful friendship! 😀 👍👏
I wouldn't be this cheerful if I was 24 hours away from being knocked out cold.
how do you know? the fight isn't until tomorrow night...
@@washoe4827 expostfacto.
He should have been tucked up in bed. He suffered his first defeat, and first of of 2 defeats to Floyd Patterson the day after, having previously beaten him.
Loss 22-1 Floyd Patterson KO 5 (15) 20 June 1960 Polo Grounds, New York City, New York, United States Lost world heavyweight title
When Arlene asks him about being tucked up in bed, Ingemar opens his mouth to start to answer and, lo and behold, Daly interrupts and can't let the guest answer for himself.
@@Julia-fo4tk Typical, like Cerf
19:31 Appearing on national television the night before he would defend the heavyweight championship of the world??
Thar's really not a good idea.
AR LEENS FIRST PASS ?? WWWHHOOOOOOAAHH. THATS. A. FIRST 😊😊😮😮😮😊😮😮😊😮😮
Cerf interrupts Daly talking about the mystery guest to ask some stupid question the guest would be a fool to answer. Proof Cerf was is not only rude, and privileged on this show for some reason we’ll never know for sure, and an idiot desperate to show he is smart.
I met Bennett Cerf. He was neither rude nor an idiot.
he knew he had lost before anything. he didn't even look like he was trying at this point. just wanted to lap up the last moments of fame.
Johansson was one of the luckiest champions in history, & Floyd's insufferable glass jaw played a huge part in it.
Johansson had one of the best right hands in heavyweight history. He put away Eddie Machen easily enough (Liston couldn't do it). Patterson was only kayoed 5 times in 63 fights. What glass jaw?
Staring hungrily is a rude comment