'Toxic culture' found in damning Nursing and Midwifery council review
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
- "The public aren't safe."
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That's what the author of a damning review into the culture at the Nursing and Midwifery council has told this programme.
Today's review puts the spotlight on an organisation that's described as having a "toxic culture" with racism in its ranks.
One whistleblower told us that when she tried to raise concerns, she was intimidated to fall in to line. And in another case, it took seven years for one nurse who had been accused of rape and sexual assault to be struck off.
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The toxic culture and bullying runs from the regulator all the way through the NHS. It's a terrible thing to be bullied in the very place that should care, I've been through it as a nurse and it was absolutely awful 😢
My daughter worked for the nhs,she was terribly bullied too
@@jessiegleaves9037 I'm sorry she went through that like I did. Sending love to you both.
@@Fellow557-my9pr I think it's more they don't apply their own trust and NMC values. They don't act even when they are aware of bullying and it often goes from the ground up to the higher echelons. It's a real shame because they lose amazing staff 😢
That's why I left
The NHS is a brutally toxic place, in every area - from clinical practice to non-clinical areas. It's no surprise this starts in the NMC/regulators.
This is why many young people like myself have left student nursing. Appalling behaviour from individuals who are meant to care for the public.
I qualified 2016 lasted 5 years, couldn’t do it
Thank you for being honest.
There is too much bullying. I started a biomedical science degree in September.
Lauren: I have been saying this same thing for so many years. I as a patient have had many horrible experiences with nurses, and even some doctors too, each time I'd been unfortunate enough to have been in hospital. They were absolute callous lunatics!!! And so hateful too. I could never understand why they deliberately took on the job of nursing when they hate people so much. They make no sense.
@@bigcityjunglecatenvisageth1422
True. In my experience nurses are often power mad sadists.
This scandal is nationwide and is not just a Lucy Letby thing.
It's not just this sector either. The entire society has become toxic, from decades of societal norms being inverted.
Worked as a nurse for over 20 years and to be honest never met as many bullies in all my life.
Its high time cameras were installed in wards, at work stations and in any areas where our lives are at risk, especially in hospitals.
Absolutely agree , those we should trust the most cannot be trusted anymore.
true but discreetly
I believe they should have cameras on them like police!!! I was a victim in summer 2022, I was admitted with pneumonia and shadow on lung!! Thought I was on my last legs! Waited hours to be admitted up to the ward!! Full of elderly vulnerable sick patients! They isolated me, kept me from visitors, said I was contagious!! Very unprofessional nurses kept me from sleep, water and food!! Finally health started to improve, to be able to use the toilet and take shower!! I was appalled at the state of the facilities covered with n faeces, window left open, and toilets that wouldn’t flush! I made complaint, then I was more ostracised by the night staff!! I was witness to seeing my lovely nurse being shouted at and verbally abused! I’m stepped out of my room to confront them and tell them they were bullies!! I got threatened that I would be taken away by security if I didn’t get back in my room!! I signed myself the next day against their judgement, I felt I wouldn’t have lived if I had stayed another night!! They withheld medication, and tried to incite MH!! I am now traumatised and can never trust the so called professionals again!💔🥲🥲🇬🇧 St Helier Hospital!!
I believe they should have cameras on them like police!!! I was a victim in summer 2022, I was admitted with pneumonia and shadow on lung!! Thought I was on my last legs! Waited hours to be admitted up to the ward!! Full of elderly vulnerable sick patients! They isolated me, kept me from visitors, said I was contagious!! Very unprofessional nurses kept me from sleep, water and food!! Finally health started to improve, to be able to use the toilet and take shower!! I was appalled at the state of the facilities covered with n faeces, window left open, and toilets that wouldn’t flush! I made complaint, then I was more ostracised by the night staff!! I was witness to seeing my lovely nurse being shouted at and verbally abused! I’m stepped out of my room to confront them and tell them they were bullies!! I got threatened that I would be taken away by security if I didn’t get back in my room!! I signed myself the next day against their judgement, I felt I wouldn’t have lived if I had stayed another night!! They withheld medication, and tried to incite MH!! I am now traumatised and can never trust the so called professionals again!💔🥲🥲🇬🇧 St Helier Hospital!!
Especially in operating theatres; unconscious people are too vulnerable as they cannot fight back.
My lovely Mum suffering from dementia was treated dreadfully by Nursing staff. Night staff especially when no visitors allowed and they could bully at will with no witnesses.. I made a complaint and was locked off the ward! Our whole family was traumatised and certainly not listened to or believed.
Same here the geriatric ward in Whipps X hospital where our mum was ,was absolutely horrific it was like torture chamber elderly patients without visitors got it worse .
Get an advocate through your local authority as she is entitled to one. They will visit her on a monthly basis and provide a report.
My god my heart goes out to your family’s I do no people have been saying this 4years why do good nurses not speak out what was going on ☘️☘️
The nhs is disgraceful!! There’s no care in the care system and the foreign nurses, doctors are the worst they are the rudest I’ve come across a lot of the nhs staff do not care about there work and treat people like a Amazon parcel
Please don't think we are all like that, I love my job, wouldn't hurt or say anything nasty to any of my patients. I'm not a nurse though.
NMC is bad as a regulator, I haven’t met a nurse who’s happy to pay them £120 per year.
I’m more concerned about bullying I experience at work.
This is what planet earth would be like if women ran the world
@user-ee8ux5hg8e you can be as sexist as you like but get prosecuted for racism. Why blame females for your inadequacies
@@user-ee8ux5hg8e could you please explain the rationale of your statement?
@@iulianaciurla3969 explains itself
@@user-ee8ux5hg8e No the profession is about fifty fifty males to females. I've had both male and female bosses, I still prefer women. You toxic misogynist.
The selection process of nurses needs a total serious overhaul . Wrong people are getting selected .
Didn't Earn It.
They came to ask the mother of my child for a signature for permission to use her biological material for biological testing when she was out of it after giving birth. I got annoyed with how pushy they were and some overweight red head suggested i was being "aggressive" i said: "aggressive? This is the mother of my child who's not in the right frame of mind". Then they put the mother of my
Child on an abuse watchlist. Each time they went in for an appointment she was asked if she was safe and they were suggesting i was dangerous! Imagine!! I felt like becoming dangerous after that i tel you
That is terrible
All of the nurses I have spoken to, including friends and family, have told me that 99.7% of London's nurses are not very nice. My question is: Why are they even in this field of work if they can not uphold the 6Cs?
I have been asked to leave the hospital with my 2 year old child at 4 am! when I refused, the nurse was trying to give a false oxygen reading to make it like my son was fine to make us leave!!
Evil person, she should not be working in children hospital.
Yes nature, it happened to my friend and her elderly mum. Told to breathe more deeply so the reading could be acceptable, so she could be discharged from A and E, and she had gone in with acute oxygen deficiency. Children need to kept in too, for monitoring. So many stories where they are sent home, or parents made to feel they are making a fuss, only to die at home. Its just gone so drastically wrong.
I have worked all over the world 24 years in the Uk. In the health care world for 44+ years. I have very publicly admonished the Government,nmc and rcn,gmc,
The nmc can’t safeguard the public or the nurses. I whistleblew twice was demoted subjected to severe punishment. The nmc is NOT fit for purpose .
I was bullied, gossiped about, lied about and left to give birth alone by a nasty, cruel senior midwife, who claimed I "wasn't in labour" despite it being my fourth extremely quick delivery, and my baby shooting out not long after that. Disgusting. I live with PTSD and it cripples me daily. I'm having a homebirth this time against advice, not having anyone do that to me again!
This doesn't just affect nurses and midwives, it destroys patients.
PTSD... shutup.
Shut up John.
@@johnmartin650 disagree.. I don't think this lady should shut up about her experience.
@@LauraDickinson-ln9qo She's a basket case with a victim complex. I feel sorry for her family. She absolutely should shut up and so should you.
@@johnmartin650 maybe try telling my doctor that... I guess he should lose his licence for wrongful diagnosis. Goodbye John.
Same issue here in America, nursing culture is highly toxic.
And as you may know we follow the USA so it's so coming to us soon
@zeebro7688 It's here already. That's why we're commenting on this video.
That's what happens when you let women run something . Women in 2024 are a complete disaster , toxic and trouble making .
This is what planet earth would be like if women ran the world
@@user-ee8ux5hg8e Exactly . UA-cam has hidden my comment with the same sentiment
This is a good example of no accountability. The executive should be changed. The mindset is the problem. If you leave them they will just get better at hiding their incompetence.
Regulators target whistleblowers
Look at Gosport Hospital.
same in most places ..i wistleblow were i work got swept under the carpet an wen i got a paper involed i got called a liareven though i had proof ...came to nothing in the end an every1 involed got away with it ......shame no1 was held responserble .....was so angry an had to come to terms with no 1 was botherd was a very big supermarket couldnt fight them on my self an every1 was scared to come out an talk on my side
i whistleblown and was struck off!!!! NMC is a disgrace.
@@paulroach9764 Paul, it will go the way of the Post Office.
Very true.
A few years ago, when I had a surgery, I was attacked by a nurse at night no one believed me.
I stayed outside until the morning and then asked to be discharged, but they put me as an outpatient. The experience was actually horrifying. I hope I’m never sick again.
Cruel world
@Tinkerbell-Cc3361 I believe you it's happened a few times to my daughter and need needs to go to the hospital every month after the treatment from some of em vile nurses. Now, she suffers at home till it too much for her
How were you attacked?
I believe you! I’ve been spoken too like trash by nurses at the hospital I’ve reported 2 nurses and I have one witness! Half of these nurses enter their profession because of the money they have NO compassion!
Go to the press
Attacked? How?
Who is suprised honestly
Not me! Nothing much would surprise me with that lot. 😬😰
I'm not surprised. My past interactions with doctors and nurses I thought they were vile.
My granddaughter was quadriplegic and ultimately lost her life because of terrible midwifery lapses. It’s astonishing to think this happens in the uk
If you have an older relative in hospital...DON'T leave them. Spend your time to ensure their safety or employ, if you can afford it, a carer to take in home-made food, help your relative to eat it (or whatever food supplement the hospital gives them), ensure good fluid intake and get your relative to a commode or toilet. Nurses in cetrtain NHS hospitals will do none of these and are not bothered if a patient deteriorates or dies.
If your relative cannot fend for themselves in hospital You are their only person of safety.This would include sleeping in a chair near them...as you would for a sick child. The nurses who care are too few and those who don't are negligent to a dangerous degree.
I've seen this happen on a ward where there was nothing but agency staff.
@user-dd37wj03 after some bad experiences my Father had I would be there for the majority of my time off if he was in hospotal. He'd been almost forced by a male hathcare to prove his disability, told to use his bad rather than a bottle, as that was what it was for and staff caused a skin tear by moving him up the bed with sheets not slide sheets, this tunrned into a nasty presure sore that he endured whilst bedriddden and end of life with cancer. Nurses didn't to seem to understand a long standing disability and how the cancer was causing more disabilities. He was scared to be left and towards the end of his life said if he needed to go to hospital he didn't want to go. Thankfully, everything he needed was done with no hospital contact. He did have community nurses coming in and again a mix of competency and attitudes, some to make you scared yourself. Makes me very sad when I think back to that time
@@Ruth695 I may not know you personally but I am so sorry your father and you had such an awful experience.. prolonged and distressing as well as harmful. i have taken some time to reply as it is similar to my partner's who had a physically disabling condition and went to hospital to clear an infection. Nurses said there wasn't a hoist available to get him out of bed for the toilet or commode and he should just use the bed and they'd clean him later. I and his carer were appalled but had no authority to alter this. Over many weeks and two visits to the same ward, he developed pressure wounds and even once home, the lack of proper treatment from community nurses and their neglect meant the healing of these sores was delayed, and even blocked so he developed septicaemia. When a doctor told us there was a chance the infection would be cleared if he went back to the same hospital, my partner refused and died as a result. I have been understanding of the lack of nurses, doctors and hospitsl staff for years and know how pushed for time they are but bad nursing is bad nursing and should be spotted and stopped but instead it just seems to spread like a virus itself. My partner was a happy intellectually sharp and intelligent man who knew what was happening was wrong but neither he nor anyone helping him had the power to correct it. I had similar experiences with careing for my mother many years ealier and as a trained, experienced nurse it was like a living nightmare, slowly unfolding. It may sound old-fashioned but Florence Nightingale would have wiped the floor with many who call themselves nurses now, even if they do have degrees and qualifications. Many, many good wishes that you heal from your experience.
I woke up in intensive care and was bullied, berated, sworn at, and verbally a'ed for 12 hours... they all closed ranks and denied it all happened. The doctors were not involved, I must add
We need the right people to be employed in health and people to stand up and call out these corrupt people in power
The problem is that the entire society has been corrupted. It's increasingly hard to find decent people when the entire society is now brought up on toxic values and trash culture.
Is channel 4 going to cover the overuse of ventilators, midazolam and morphine used in combination leading to a spike in excess deaths in march 2020 and the blanket do not resuscitate orders handed out that shortened the life of so many or will it take as many years as these poor individuals are waiting for justice for you to finally get around to reporting on that I wonder.
the excess deaths linked to the experimental tech rebranded as a safe and familiar concept, along with it being proven that ventilators was what was cuasing everyones lungs to implode,
parliment and any authority body, are fully aware of all this, they did it intentionally, 2022 was genocide rebranded,
They won't ever cover that, cover it up yes but not tell the truth. That's like saying it's all to get people bumped off, as if eh!!
No. They won’t. The media are disciples of the WEF.
Preventable deaths due to problems in care in English acute hospitals: a retrospective case record review study - BMJ
Avoidability of hospital deaths and association with hospital-wide mortality ratios: retrospective case record review and regression analysis
My first child, I was so traumatised and physically violated I have absolutely refused to be referred to the hospital ever again. I instead travel over an hour for any medical referral and I will rather die before being admitted there in an emergency.
Wow. Meanwhile the NHS was stating patients had no right to clarify if staff undertaking personal care / intimate examinations were women.
Was the man raping women allowed to continue working as a nurse for those 8 years?
I was a nurse for 50 years, we felt privileged to be a nurse, it was a disciplined training, but we were dedicated and committed.The "profession " has become unprofessional, there is no loyalty, no discipline, I noticed the general deterioration after nurses began "degree courses " at "uni". I recently visited two friends on several occasions in hospital, one was terminally ill, the other had a stroke, the poor standard of both English and care was obvious, there was not a British nurse amongst them, and several of the Asian students didn't understand English. They did not wash their hands , instead used that anti bacterial gel, that they carried on their belts. I noticed how scruffy and in many cases grossly obese many were.The atmosphere felt as if they were reluctant to be there. No wonder the NHS is in such a state, the wards are filthy, there was blood on the floor which remained there for over a week , even though I had made them aware of this. In the old days we nurses would have cleaned that up, but not now.I despair.
Same experience with my father in law before he died. This Nigerian ‘doctor’ whose pronounciation of English was so poor my spouse could hardly understand him had tried to have conversations with their hard of hearing father and got no where. His answer was to shrug his shoulders and state they didn’t know what was wrong with him as the patient wasn’t communicating. Another elderly, never married lady I know was in hospital for a week and found it was a Nigerian male assistant who was assigned to bathe the ladies. You couldn’t make all this stuff up. I now expect shite from all parts of the NHS and am prepared to meet it head on.
Nurses don't wear belts anymore. That was removed over a decade ago. You sound racist either way.
@@TifBo It's not racist to point out that other countries do not hold the same standards as we do.
You must have been visiting the same hospital I use! Last time I was there,3 times the convulsions caused me to wet myself. No-one would change the sheets or clean me up or help me get comfortable. It was my young daughter who kept count of how many bowls of saliva I filled -8, because I couldn't swallow and insisted they gave me a drip. They totally ignored the blood pressure alarm, they left the cuff on for so long, with the pressure so high the machine was flashing an alarm and all down my arm and hand I had burst blood vessels..my daughter took it off because it was hurting and failed to get a nurse to come and see.. The a&e dept had no slings, crutches,Zimmer frames, and one commode for all the patients. No-one washed anything, they used hand gels and the beds were given a cursory spray with tissue and new sheets put over the visible dirt. If you went back with a forensic team I cannot imagine what you'd find. I am terrified of the next time I have to go. The do nothing to help,threaten me with death if I discharge myself, won't let my daughter go home in a taxi & sleep because she's 15, but expect her to look after me. It's horrific. And my daughter watched an Asian nurse who had appeared to have no English, who'd ignored my admitting to incontinence and pleas for help,she watched her typing up her notes about me claiming I'd been very disrespectful to the doctor!!!! I had complained because 9-10 of waiting in a&e I hadn't SEEN a doctor!!! Once nurses start lieing & claiming patients are difficult or abusive they all then feel justified in totally ignoring you..I know because we have a family friend with autism & mental health problems and everywhere she goes they treat her disgustingly.
My father (elderly, frail, blind and very hard of hearing, though mentally still very much "with it") was very badly bulled by the nurses in the hospital where he was being "treated". They left him alone in a side room and declared he wasn't allowed to eat or drink. Our visiting hours were very limited but whenever I was there, the glucose drip he was meant to be on, was ALWAYS empty and I had to continually ask them to replace with a new one. I queried his treatment with a senior nurse but she became aggressive(even though I was very polite and told me humans could survive for over a month without food! I replied that my father was an old, frail man, who was already very underweight and I thought it cruel to treat him like this. The nurse walked away from me. I later saw her drinking coffee, something she wouldn't allow my father to do. Luckily, I was with my husband, but I was extremely distressed by this. We discussed with dad what we should do.( I'd already requested to speak to a doctor but was told none were available). My father then said "Get me out of this slaughter house". They were his last words to me. He wasn't well enough to walk out so I needed to arrange special transport but I had sorted it all out by about 10.30 the next morning. I rang the ward to say we'd be collecting my dad at 11.30 that morning. I could hear the panic in the nurse's voice when I mentioned his name and there was a pause plus I heard someone go into my dad's side room ( his room was near the phone station) . Then there was a lot of whispering in the background. . Eventually a different nurse told me to come in as soon as possible. My mum and I raced over to the hospital, whereupon they informed us that my father had died in the night. They let us see him. He was stone cold and rigor mortis had set in. I believe Dad died in the early hours and no one had checked on him until I rang up the ward mid -morning. I wanted to raise a complaint but my mum was so distraught, she didn't want to. I respected her wishes of course but I will never trust NHS nurses (or doctors) again. In my heart, I know they killed my father.
This is usually caused by the overpaid management.
@@das5813 including senior social workers
They have too much money to lose!
This doesn’t surprise me at all when the vast majority of nurses themselves are horrible bullies. I spent 4 months on a burn ward as a patient 3 years ago at the Queen Elizabeth hospital in Birmingham, which is being investigated by the CQC for its toxic bullying, racism and misogyny. I have PTSD from my time being bullied daily by those evil nurses making fun of my scars, not from being trapped in the fire, having all four limbs ablaze and receiving third degree burns to 25% of my body.
Nurses are no longer the altruistic angels of decades ago; now it’s a profession that predominantly attracts people who were high school bullies, and want to continue victimising a captive pool of vulnerable, infirm bedridden patients. It’s absolutely predictable that their governing body would be this messed up too, when the people who staff it were bullies in the hospital environment prior to being appointed to the Nursing and Midwifery Council. Disgusting people. The whole nursing sector needs an overhaul to stop them from predominantly only selecting sociopaths and sadists to become nurses.
So sorry for your awful experience when you were at your most vulnerable
Fc u utubr, who the helldo you think you are censoring people’s comments. You too are bullies, I expect you have family members in the “ nursing’ ‘profession’. The truth will out just as either the post odgficr, if you continue to try snd hide it you only make things worse for anyone.. protecting the bullies. What next, condoning murders?
I haven't had that awful experience but I'm in Scotland where 95% of our nurses are still Scottish and all really professional and nice.
Seems there is a big problem in England nobody wants to describe.
100% agree. I've had experience of the NHS and private and the difference was huge.
I suspect that the NHS now has a work culture where staff can't be reprimanded, there are no senior nurses offering authority, and there are cultural problems with foreign workers (both ways), overwork etc. But the private nurses, who have a direct boss and less work 'protection', were angels by comparison.
As for NHS doctors...outright abusive...
Please don’t tarnish all nurses this way. It has appalling that you suffered such a horrible experience but this is NOT the norm, the majority of nurses continue to care with a passion against unbelievably difficult conditions, and should be commended - it’s an extremely challenging job, often carried out with limited resources and support.
I was a nurse for over 30 years.In my time as an RN I met some fantastic people who were supportive,kind and caring,and people I wished to aspire to.I also met some of the very worst people,who I felt undermined me,people who were only interested in creating their own little empires,and who only cared for themselves.Sadly,the latter were the majority of the people I came across or worked with.In my dealings with the NMC,I found them uncaring and vindictive,and not one person I spoke to was a qualified nurse,they were ‘admin’,and remember,we had to pay them £120 per year to register with them before we could work and put food on the table.The NMC is not there to represent nurses,or protect them,or be helpful to them.They are there to condemn them,and in my experience,they simply do not listen.Its a very poorly run organisation that does not like any form of criticism.I criticised them heavily and got into a lot of trouble for doing so.I’m retired now,but I always try to make students aware of the sort of organisation they are signing up to,if I’m asked my opinion.
Some of their letters with threats of manslaughter charges for what were than newly qualified junior nurses second signature's to senior nurses drawing then administering Doctor prescribed morphine to patients , now the Dr's and senior nurses are long dead are pretty shocking...
Call in the managers and sack them. They haven’t done their jobs. Then look for grassroots leaders who understand what needs to be addressed. Then look at how the costs can be redirected from waste and over payed management and given to the frontline staff.
And we have to pay them every year for the privilege of NOT keeping the public safe.
That’s the most annoying thing. When I qualified in the late 1980’s it was £60 every three years. We now pay £120 every year…..and for what?
@@jaijai5250£32 for UKCC registration lasting three years when I qualified 1980s. 👍
High suicide rate among nurses/midwives. Insane working hours 13 hours a day, exhaused, mistakes happen and covered up. HR stay in 5 * hotels around Asia/Africa recruiting anyone with a nursing certificate mostly Pakistani/Bangledeshi/Africans with fake certificates let loose onto wards and NMC won't publish high rates of deaths/serious harm to mothers and babies. 30,000 British nurses stampeded out of the NHS refusing to work under these dangerous conditions.
Reminds me of my Midwifery Manager( a bully)). Went to S.Africa, all expenses paid, to recruit Midwives.Only 3 were employed! One left and went back after about 2 years, one was totally unsuitable and I often doubted if she was really qualified.She left or was made to leave after a few months.The third was excellent, now married and settled here.Seems like an excuse for a free holiday.
Channel 4 please investigate the useless toxic GMC as well
Could well imagine they put DEI before public safety too.
@@nowherepeople3431 GMC. I did an analysis of their hearings.
If you were trained overseas you are more likely to end up in front of them
Overseas trained more likely to be no action.
Uk trained it’s mostly for finance reasons
Oh and if you buck the WHO you are toast
@@adenwellsmith6908 Doesn’t sound like you disproved my assumption tbh. Overseas more complaints, those complaints dismissed because of desire to “tackle systemic bias” UK trained maybe financial but not necessarily directly harming patients. 🤷🏼♂️
@@nowherepeople3431 My take is this.
a) There is probably racism in the reporting. More reports for foreigners.
b) On the GMC side, they may well be applying different standards.
c) HR departments are a major issue - not checking references.
d) Some of the cases are horrific.
But in general the key issue is the 20,000 avoidable deaths in acute hospitals. I've posted elsewhere with the peer reviewed reports into the numbers.
This is why a Beveridge system (NHS, Medicare) is bad, and Bismarck systems (Holland, Switzerland) are in another league.
@@nowherepeople3431 Another possibility, is that those reporting the Drs are racist.
Or that the GMC is very keen to take on cases against native doctors, to use the jargon.
An awful lot of Horrible people in care, set me up, and lied to the police, after an argument with them over the care of my mother. Lied in court, and I was done.
It's throughout the NHS, bullying and silencing is a major problem. I wish more was done to allow people to come forward and report it without being afraid you will lose your job or be bullied worse for trying to report it.
I'd like to say to those nurses, it's not just you that's going through this sort of stuff, this is being done to so many people on so many levels and when you scream and shout about how wrong it is, they label you as trouble makers or mental health.
There's something really wrong with the people in control of some of the institutions in this country.
That's the reason why I decided many years back not to work in any nursing team. The sad state of things...😢
I started studying to be a nurse a few years back, quickly realised it wasn't worth it. I wouldn't want to work for the NHS unfortunately
@@alannarutter5033 The sad state of women in 2024 . What do you think happened to you guys ? So toxic , entitled and trouble making and often towards each other .
@@tabularasa7775 I never been toxic to anyone, I was just trying to do my job! Be careful of trying to insult people you don't know! Very narrow minded of you.
@@Llkolii I also had a good chance of studying to become a nurse, but I chose a different path for a very good reason!
@@alannarutter5033 Wasn't aimed at you personally , I was referring to the collective as a whole . You can clearly tell that by the way i asked you and included the fact women are horrible to each other too . I guess i was trying to have an adult conversation that you don't seem to be capable of without taking personal offence .
He’s only sorry he’s been caught.
And i have worked with nurses who are motivated by ££££ and couldn't care less about people.
Really, shock!! 😂
a nurse in wales assaulted me and the staff just turn a blind eye, i never had a problem with hospitals but now i hate going.
Why do you feel the need to point out it was in Wales?
Ive not met an emphatic or kind nurse in about 10 years, all rufe all have attitude even when ur polite, kiss their teeth at u, tell u to be grateful u even got an appointment (when they "forgot" about me in reception for 3 hours) when theres other mote deserving non white people who should get the appointments instead.
Kissing their teeth?? Big clue...
Why aren’t white peoples studying and applying for these posts.
I’m a retired nurse who is black, and I wouldn’t want any of these modern nurses caring for me., regardless of their race ….none of them!
The NHS is atrocious so I decided to take early retirement in 2021, and I was senior in my speciality, with decades of experience.
Umm, if things happened outside work, then ring the police. Why on earth would you only report it to your work? They aren't the ones who can give any justice. Not only that but it could add more pressure for work to not brush it under the rug. If something is a crime, you don't tell your plumber about it, why go to your bosses instead of going to the appropriate authorities? This is nonsense.
As for DEI...seriously? Stop insulting people. Hire qualified nurses regardless of their skin colour. DEI is beyond sexist and racist, not to mention it infers people couldn't get the job in a normal way. So belittling. We've taken so many steps backwards towards actually equal treatment it makes me sick.
They likely did make the police aware, but that doesn't mean their employer shouldn't also step in and help keep the alleged perpetrator and victim seperate whilst any investigation happens.
Also the burden of proof is often heavily on the victim in all SA cases, if they don't somehow have CCTV and written/audio confession from the perpetrator, the police won't get involved as it takes them a lot of time and resources they don't wish to invest into a single case to investigate - at least by informing an employer, you can make a paper trail that way too and hopefully warn them for if it happens again to another colleague whether at work or not
@@firefang225whilst everything you've said is true, it is still worth contacting the police for at least an incident log number, so it's in the system
Where did it say they weren't reported to the police?
@@nomdeplume1965 The report specifically says that the events (mentioned) occurred outside of work. But it makes no reference at all to police involvement.
The OP's point is correct.
Because sometimes the police are unhelpful and blame victims. Learn about police misconduct and brutality, especially in cases of rape - nothing is ever that simple.
they want to go to WEXHAM PK hospital in slough ward 17 and see how they treat the elderly patients its disgusting the way i witnessed them treat those poor elderly people,i made many complaints but all fell on deaf ears
The standards will continue to fall as certain demographic takes over.
unsayable but if it is the way into the economy, you ain't going to attract the caring.
Facts
Why don’t you encourage the demographic you want. However they need time be prepared to study for three years, pay £120 annually to the NMC. They’re also required to revalidation every three years.
Don’t blame the demographic who are prepared to put the work in, for the one that can’t be bothered.
I’m glad this report delivered the truth. 👶
Social work, is just the same, health and social care, is toxic from top to bottom, I had to leave social work in 2019! Best thing I ever did.
So so true. They need to investigate children’s social care in particular. Toxic culture full of bureaucratic nonsense, managers with no ability, cover ups and wilful blindness. Social workers burntout and children not protected. They are left in unsafe situations for years. A recently qualified male SW was recently arrested for sexually inappropriate behaviour with young girls he worked with in the local council. It’s horrifying.
Cool what do you do now?
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@@JulietCrowson Well, I retrained during the pandemic, I qualified as a law advocate and legal advisor , I work part-time and I can work from home, I only have to go into the office once a month!
I am not having to deal, with client's in mental health crisis, police, housing, NHS etc., I would never advice anyone to work in social work or nursing, you are so vulnerable and the lack of support and appreciation, is unbelievable! If you are a social worker or nurse, you will know what I mean.
I remember about 10 years ago on the BBC news they reported that a young man in hospital had called 999 to get water because he kept asking nursing staff and wasn’t given any. He died of dehydration. Horrifying and it wasn't like a watershed moment or anything, just another failing.
Yet NHS staff put posters up demanding respect and claim that they have a zero tolerance towards abuse. Abusing patients won't earn the nursing staff any respect.
Nearly all council departments are toxic now. Environmental health and housing are a nightmare in our area
It's the entire society. This is the fruit of having all societal, moral and cultural norms dismantled - a selfish society.
Whipps X hospitals geriatric ward should be investigated its absolutely appalling how patients are treated by nurses .
Horrendous situation. Without going into detail, 2 nurses bullied a dying patient. Complaints were ignored. Anyone in any other profession or job would have been sacked on the spot.
It's a mafia
They'd be followed home after their shifts if that was my loved one .
@tabularasa7775 There was an inquest. Some of his family members knew 1 of the nurses were attending and therefore didn't attend because the anger and hurt may have spilt over. The denials were awful, but when they learned evidence was available to be presented to the coroner, they soon quaked in their boots.
Outcome: The family decided that one wrong move by a nurse and they will request the nurse is not allowed to continue, but so far, so good.
Government job, cushy job.
@@SC-tl3px lol righto
Look into social work, it's exactly the same
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Managers, HR, neighbours, friends on Facebook...
When I was in hospital nurses would write things for the doctor, then the doctor would ask me about things that I never said, and I figured out they weren't even talking to me and just making up reports. I got practically no help in hospital. They kept trying to offer me an occupational therapist, and then they would see me one time and I'd ask what do they do, they said they can get me things like a stair lift, I say I don't need one, then I'd never see them again. This is the help you get for mental health.
My mum a midwife of 36 years died due to covid injury we had a difficult relationship because she did cover for them.They left a placenta inside my body for 7 weeks. CATASTROPHIC HEMOAGE I got fibromyalgia now
It is a cult I am a victim of it.
Now my mum passed I'm wanting to talk about it
My mum wonderful woman this job and the government killed her
the previous* government thank christ
@@Flopalott indeed, thank Jesus that we no longer have the Tories.
@@janinejohnstone468 I hope labour are better but I won't hold my breath
Don’t hold your breath thinking Labour will be any better in fact anyone with elderly relatives in hospital must be extra vigilant they still use DNRs and morphine to move them on the signs to look for is no water for the patient to drink food placed out of reach listen to what your family member is telling you they are being mis treated, Inexperienced it first hand with a patient, she was refused help to get to the toilet
Then was shouted at by the nurse on duty for wetting the bed the patient was 91 had always lived independently only to be treated like an animal in hospital. I lost my own mother through the LCP THAT WAS BEING USED ON ELDERLY PATIENTS same think withholding food and drink and excessive amounts of morphine being given to keep her drugged until death. It was only after her death I found out what was happening. Don’t trust the NHS to look after elderly patients just like Covid they helped them on their way. I will never ever go into an NHS hospital again. When I hear people call nurses angels I think to myself angels of death is more the truth. Not all nurses are bad but many are.
@@Flopalottoooh, so all the civil servants, the bad staff, they're all going to change now there's a different government, they're all going to be swapped out for better people?
I can definitely agree with the toxic culture. The Royal Free hospital in Hampstead, hate the elderly. I know of so many people who have had parents, elder siblings or neighbours go into that place and leave deceased. They have a just let them die policy it seems.
The GMC also a boys club that protects their own
Only if they're white
umm no? the situation is tough for nurses and the public yes, but the GMC is extremely harsh on its doctors, taking away/suspending their licenses at small reasons.
@@holdtighttatsu6619 trust me doctors get away with more than a nurse ever would
@@holdtighttatsu6619 for perhaps a year at a time. It is a myth that doctors are 'struck off' forever. GMC is not harsh on doctors at all, compared to the way professional nurses are treated.
Exactly!! No way! Any tiny complaint against a doctor by a patient no matter how wrong they are, they have to kiss the feet of the patient and wait for the whipping by GMC. GMC is only there for the patient, never defending the doctor
This rotten business going on within the NHS does not surprise me. The type of experiences I have had, as a patient, with the majority of nurses, and some docs too - I could write a horror story. They were absolute psycho cases dressed in nurses uniforms. Absolutely hateful. Could never understand why they deliberately went in for that type of job, when they hate people so much. It's mind-boggling!!!
If you try to get a job just in a "shop" they are extremely fussy about who would be "suitable" - but yet it seems in the "nursing" profession they take on just anyone with a pulse, and they don't give a damn who gets hurt. It's disgraceful!!!
Totally agree, the revolting experience caused by nurses, receptionists from GPs, acting like a doctor, even heath care workers who cone and feed the elderly people are so cruel, power hungers and used and abused of the position
I was a nurse for forty years On the whole the worst ones are in management level ward manager and above who have little or no Empathy for their patients or staff under them they are appalling human beings.
dont forget to go outside your front door and clap for our dear NHS and the angelic nurses who inhabit it !!
I am glad to say I never did the cult-like worship of the false idol. By then, the NHS had already killed my father and so I'd seen the light.
@@cherryseptember8697 my eyes were opened years ago ... sorry to hear about your dad though .....
@@muckergee2113 Appreciated. Thank you.
While they’re practising dance routines 😂
So found out I’m pregnant mid June via home test, I call my Drs to confirm and talk about next steps.
They are in special measures and no longer see women for pregnancy.
So I asked who do I see.? They said I have to self refer to hospital….an hour away……I referred myself and had my first appointment 3 weeks later.
The nurse told me they won’t confirm my pregnancy or offer a scan unless I’m in pain or it’s an emergency……so now I’m left in the dark wondering if I’m gonna get any scans or even a midwife? NHS is broken and can’t offer any support. The hospital then gave me a free NHS dental voucher….except you can only use it if registered…..there is no NHS dentist anywhere to get registered 😅😅 absolutely pointless
Born in UK & paid tax for 20yrs.
NMC is quick to fleece hardworking Nurses of registration fee's every year.
I was in hospital a long time ago in London. There were black nurses no problem but the ward was run by a matron never any problems eith the staff. No wonder the nursing profession is in the mess its in.When they took matrons away to many overpaid bosses in an office who have not got a clue about running wards
They still have matrons. The issue is unaccountability for management, plus wider societal decay effecting people as a whole.
@@14Anon2the NHS is also chronically understaffed, by highly stressed staff.
I worked there for three years. I often think about how disgusting it was. Particularly the directors and CEO. Awful experience. Badness runs through the place. Staff are treated terribly; nurses even worse.
Basically, as a nurse, your damn if you do, your damn if you don’t. Packing boxes is a better option.
People are sick of the toxic culture within nursing. Sick of being gaslit and bullied and there is so much bullying within nursing it’s horrific. Nurses bully each other day in and out, they bully junior doctors and they bully new nurses. That’s a fact. Not all nurses obviously, the toxic ones who are protected and enabled to behave like this, but it’s rife within the profession, there are a lot of people in nursing who should be packing boxes. I feel genuinely sorry for anyone like yourself in nursing who’s in it for the right reasons, it must be absolutely soul destroying for you all. No wonder so many good nurses leave.
And pays better xxx
@sooticablue1664 I left nursing due to this. I was told as a whistle blower, to keep my head down or I would never be employed. This was a year after the Stafford enquiry! Xxx
@@cheriesmith4087 that’s terrible and another good nurse gone. My friend is a band 7 and told me never to get into nursing as I’d be eaten alive by the bullying and she’s right. She’s as tough as they come and it nearly broke her. So may good nurses forced to leave, driven out because they’re told t u can’t speak out and tell the truth and then they’re bullied to within an inch of their lives. The whole system needs overhauled, all I want is to see the real, decent nurses like yourself allowed to work in a safe environment where they’re respected, encouraged and they can flourish. Not driven out for having the very qualities than make you a good nurse!
@@sooticablue1664 thank you so much for your kind words. I still feel guilty about leaving the profession.
I did take the issue further and got the CQC involved. I was the lowest of the low after that. Xxx
Worked briefly in nhs last year - scary place that enables bullies and wokery nonsense. Most staff are militant in approach, it was like a mini communist state.
Conflating bullying & 'wokery' is meaningless.
Unfortunately staff morale is really low, and has been for years. The NHS isn’t a good employer, and staff are horribly overworked, as the NHS is chronically understaffed. It is extremely critical and stressful.
Bri g back apprentcship training instead of degree training. This will sort out who is appropriate for the job.
@@user-jh8hs8zl8f No need, just get people over here on a visa. Doesn’t matter where from. It’s a lot cheaper and quicker.
That is exactly the problem. As a retired nurse and midwife, I noticed the change in the behaviour of nurses who were degree trained towards the end of my career. They hated doing bedside work and were only interested in the administrative part of the job. The patients were second in their list of priorities. They had a superior air about them because they were degree trained but they lacked basic nursing skills and empathy which is all a patient is looking for in a good nurse. I think nurse training should go back to on the job training with a mentor backed up by a nursing school. That’s how I was trained along with many others who have now retired from the service. The bullying was always a problem unfortunately. I faced many problems with bullying from management and working colleagues alike. My go to was to threaten with legal action and in one case did see a solicitor. I was left alone after that because it was known I would litigate if necessary. So sad to see what the noble profession of nursing has descended to
@@gwendolinelindsay4647Unfortunately those of us who advocate for the kind of training we had are looked on as resistant to change. Secondly we are deemed to be not understanding of the way millennials think about work.
I had issues with one lecturer about this and I was told I would be struck off the register of mentors because I was difficult. I gladly gave him permission to report me so that I wouldn't be forced to sign off someone who was not competent. All they want you to do is " please sign my competency off , please sign my competency off"
It is sad to see what nursing has come to be about, this was once was a noble career. Not any more.
Won't work as many 'apprenticeships' are now run as degree qualification courses by Universities.
@@gwendolinelindsay4647 There in lies much of the problem, a distant relative was training as a nurse, until the senior nurse lecturer at the University he had to attend saw he was a better bedside nurse than the females on the course, so she marked him down at every turn, being one of the old school believers it's only a female career, he didn't qualify so changed tack and is now a front-line Paramedic. The Universities have much to answer for!
Glad to see this investigation, I saw one nurse threatening to smother an elderly patient. This was in a ward.. I bet it never got ‘investigated’. And undoubtedly the patients are at risk.the things I saw… I have ptsd probably for the rest of my life. God awful ‘nursing.’
The people at the top are only interested in the money, rather than the job/people they're responsible for!
Nursing practise is terrible, they do not interact with patients or reassure them, they just sit at their office & gossip. The only hard workers are in orthopaedics & carers on elderly wards who just spend the whole shift cleaning patients faeces while nurses do nothing. Mental health used to be admirable but can't keep order or give time, it is disgusting that they are afraid of some patients leaving others feeling vulnerable; they have trained restraint teams but have lost control, previously aggressive patients were isolated & medicated until calm & if a patient was unmanageable would be sent to a secure unit. It is badly run from hospital managers with no nursing experience to those now trained in college rather than learning empathy on wards. Community nurses do nothing of worth.
I lost my friend they said it was suicide I know fine well he didn’t do that whistleblowers are left in dangerous circumstances
Toxic is the understatement, they are bullies and should be disbanded!
As a terminally ill kidney patient reliant on dialysis to stay alive I can testify to the toxic attitudes and actions by so called health ("care") staff over weak & sick people. I was also a chef before I got sick and worked in some old people's homes & itbis the same vile attitude.
Basically it is an "us" and "them" thinking, and seeing fellow stafv members as "friends", wheras patients are referred to as "clients" which debases them to less than equal human.
Absolutely, I work in care homes as agency staff. The behaviour is disgusting that I have witnessed.
Report it and all that seems to happen is, huge lumps under the carpet.
The term patient dehumanises people. It is 'us and them' but also a power imbalance. In the public sector, people get paid the same regardless of how many customers they serve and they are not concerned with customer satisfaction, as they know that customers cannot take their custom elsewhere. How many people who treat animals and vehicles (both private sector) treat customers with the contempt that those who work in the NHS do?
@@eleanorwalmsley635 I visited Philippines where the elderly are the centre of the family.
All the children & grandchildren run to play & visit with an elderly grandparent with much love.
So different to our Western culture, although that doesn't stop the vile abuse of sick people.
@@antinatalist9995 Yes, and the same in doctors' surgeries. I worked for the Hilton Hotel and they taught their staff about customer service, which was what gave it its good name.
The opposite is the case in the NHS where even the tone of voice shows total disregard.
It has been like this for a long time.
True, the last time someone blew the whistle on the bullying at the NMC it was swept under the carpet. They have a lot to answer for, but then so does Nursing as a profession.
Last time I was in Hammersmith Hospital most of the nurses could hardly even speak English!! And these are the people reading patients notes and care instructions and dispensing medecines!
Is anything on channel 4 real? Or just paid actors? We will never know anymore.
My thoughts exactly!
How about the lies that staff say to the patients!
There has been numerous cases of nursing students being bullied on one toxic surgical ward in the Borders General Hospital but nothing has ever been done about it or them and has caused many student nurses to quit nursing as the treatment was so bad.
I can quite believe it sadly. I was close to the end of my adult nurse training when I whistleblowed at the local NHS Trust that I was placed in and I was quite literally on my backside very shortly afterwards. I had asked for another placement because of two of the so-called “Mentors” who had never competed their own course to be a Mentor; and I was not only refused a different placement but was also railroaded out by a “higher up”. By that point, I had been working in the NHS for almost 20 years before I decided to do my training, so I thought I knew what I was in for…but I was obviously so wrong on that.
In comparison, another student on the same course, actually physically assaulted an elderly patient and they weren’t even asked about the incident; and 3 different students were using another (previous, and then qualified) student’s dissertation as a basically cut and paste of their own. I don’t know if the first student was eventually kicked out but I do know that the other 3 were allowed to graduate, despite it being well known, and even the student nurse who was the actual author of this dissertation, had also complained to the higher ups about the plagiarism of their dissertation…and then they got into trouble over it.
When empathy dies the human race is doomed. Goodbye cruel world.
Based from personal encounters and experience.. new Nurses registered nowadays are not really competent, can't even speak english, some speak in english because it's their mother's tongue but has poor understanding, and so on and so forth incompetency. How would you rely your life on the hand in hospital bed with that kind of Nurses?!! NMC need to strickly filter ad look through the qualifying criteria before registering some one as a nurse.
@@KatinigPragmaticDogma you've hit the nail on the head ,as a student life is made soo hard for us but for international nurses it's easy to practice and they supervise us and give us wrong information.beacuse if this my epad has things that I worked through which are not right
You shameless racist
It happens when you put the wrong people in the wrong job x
I qualified as a nurse in 1978 ..I loved my work, would I return today ? NO not with diversity, trans, woke culture and endless unnecessary protocols.
Nurse Ratchet wants the matron rules back
thank god you’re not a nurse anymore then
Its the good one who quit @mlx39996
Using ‘woke’ as a pejorative 🤦♂️
Yep, I've been nursing 44 years and despair with current skill set and knowledge based in qualified nurses. Glad I'm at end of career.
I had a terrible experience with a midwife in 1991
It’s the same for radiographers, paramedics, physios, OTs etc with the HCPC. The toxic culture of bullying and ‘if your face fits’ in the NHS is why we are struggling to employ healthcare professionals, nurses and doctors. I was bullied out of one trust so I have first hand experience. I now work in another trust where the toxic culture isn’t as prominent but very much still exists in ‘pockets’ of the departments.
Thank you for saying this 🙏🫂✝️🙏
Absolutely true!
Representative of the system we are kept in. The worldwide system needs to go and the rulers.
I've had runnings with some unhinged nurses. Chanel four would hate the fact that they weren't men.
I got my first post as a staff nurse in the 1980s alongside a Glasgow University graduate nurse. She later laughed at the fact that she had never learned to insert a urinary catheter into a patient, something I had to achieve in my first year hospital training. Her answer was that she would just get someone else to do it. She fitted that perception of graduate nurses being "too posh to wash."
They totally traumatised my son and his partner… their incompetence nearly killed my granddaughter.
They managed to kill my grandson. I'm so sorry for your son and daughter in law.
@@sharonrowland9030 Ohh, that’s beyond any adjective I could ever think of. I am truly sorry for the loss of your precious Grandson, and my deepest condolences to your Grandsons parents.
Nurse training needs to have an overhaul. Pre Project 2000, we spent the first year as student nurses on the wards giving basic nursing care, and building our knowledge. We were also part of the workforce and received a wage. Nursing is essentially practical, its about giving care. Many registered nurses now just want more clinical, theorised roles as soon as they qualify. But managers repeatedly ignore warnings about understaffing, both in hospitals and carehome settings. They don't seem to understand what the practical work covers. There is just a huge emphasis on documentation and not the reality, with little support. Its about how our society is too, it is a reflection on how we are becoming.
They should be in prison.
You know by the very vague terms that this is not the boogeyman of W racism its the very obvious and constant racism coming towards W people which is being exposed.
I love how she didn't mention that and focused on black nurses only. The amount of unreported racist bullying against white people is huge. There is little recourse for you if you are white.
This sickness spills out onto patients too. My mum was on a palliative care ward for 2 days... nurses on that ward were cruel to her and my family over the last 2 days of her life. It was traumatic and deeply hurtful. It changed my view of nurses forever.
Sorry to read your comment, there seems a big gulf in nursing now where basic care and delivery of standards is just not there anymore. My father died almost 5 years ago and in hospital just before he was sent to a nursing home for his final days, the nurses especially the staff nurse were unbelievably rude, unhelpful and it was only because I was so upset at the time I didn't lose my temper with them. I saw my dad's personal care was non existent, he was told to defecate in a pad, it was beyond undignified. My dad was dealing with bowel cancer and it was me who showered my dad because no one else would, helped with his other personal cares, my dad had worked from aged 15 and paid all his life into his 70s for his care and what he received was pitiful. I didn't clap for the nurses during COVID, I reflected at how poor a service we get now and sadly can't see it improving. Condolences for your loss 😢
Nursing interviewers wont even hire most men, top 2 guys in my nursing class (me included) werent hired, but the other women were except one that was caught smoking weed on campus
Please. Men are the minority in nursing, yet they comprise around 80 of senior managers and chief executives. I say this as someone who’s been in nursing since the 1980’s.
Hmm.. I thought they were all angels...
I know !!!! Bang your pans quick 😂
Applied to nursing with Queens Belfast about 4 times between 18-22 years of age...wouldnt accept me, they kept saying i hadnt scored enough points...something to do with A levels and UCAS points...i went into dentistry instead working my way up from nurse to hygienist...worked out well in the end...by the sounds of it im glad they didnt accept me
This is concerning if true. However the way I’ve seen the politicisation of Channel 4 News,I just don’t trust their motives to report news.
Agree. It started off with obv serious things that really should have been reported to the police but concludes with the newsreader raging at the ⬜️bloke for not being sufficiently committed to DEI of all things. Literally the least serious end of the spectrum.
Agree. The timing (change of government) is interesting, is it not?
@@nowherepeople3431It's all the radical left think about
Agree 💯
You are wrong. NHS, NMC, and all the blushit unions needed to be sorted out.
We don't need too many matron who bully staff. Money wasted sadly.
While working at Guy's Hospital, I experienced mistreatment from the deputy head of a particular department as well as other individuals. Despite presenting evidence of this mistreatment and lodging a complaint with the CEO, my concerns were not appropriately addressed. It appears that there is a culture of condoning bullying and harassment at Guy's Hospital that needs to be addressed. There are concerns regarding the influence of the RCN, whose union representative collaborates with the management and overlooks personal grievances. Additionally, there have been issues regarding a negative reference provided by Guy's Hospital, which was rectified by the directorate. It is imperative for the NHS to address issues of bullying and racism starting from the top. Regrettably, based on my experience, I can not recommend pursuing a career in nursing.
I was targeted in hospital by a bully nurse I was dragged by my hair in a deep sleep some liquid was skirted down my throat I couldn’t wake up next morning missed surgeon call never got meals lost a stone in three weeks more if I didn’t get friends bringing me a sandwich at night! I now have lower intestines problem won’t stay in I’m managing just fine at home with medication and when I get next procedure I’m coming home after again thank you
I’ve worked for the NHS as a junior staff/support worker land this resonates with me . I pray for those who unknowingly will make the mistake of entering this field of work with no impressive qualification or skills gained from previous paid work.
Me too.I’m so thankful that I got out after 30 years service.Retired RGN and Midwife here.
I didn't get a fair decision from the NMC on my complaint
the NMC has not been fit for practise for decades
Dont let the NHS trusts off the hook. They are the employers and managers and it suits them to cover up. The rot in the trusts goes to the top. The trusts are too big and should be broken up.