As a long time Highly Questionable listener, Dan talking about the inner workings of ESPN when Pat had his rant about Norby is what brought me back to watching this channel. Keep it coming!
I’m very much an outlier, so my opinions are usually unpopular, but for what little it’s worth, I love hearing your discussions of sports media. Keep it coming!
The reason why Pat was the one that got him axed is because Pat has something that no one else that Norby stepped to had. True options. Pat has a major audience that he cultivated on his own. He's never needed ESPN. He could leave the network tomorrow and be no worse off. ESPN is gonna be the one hurting. You could substitute any exec in the company (including Iger) and Pat would've still come out of it okay. This is what media companies are dealing with now. They have to be the ones smart enough to pick their battles against creators.
I agree that he doesn’t necessarily need ESPN but he did choose to go with them because it makes his show bigger… which mean a further reach and more money. Don’t act like he did anybody any favors, it’s a partnership, and both shows are better with each other.
@@annierushing4796you don’t cut back as much as ESPN has, and say “they don’t need them”. You’d been right 5-10 years ago, but outside of live sports, that network is dependent on those 2 dudes.
@zachsabbath1your retort is based on surface level information. His FanDuel deal did not include any production costs. That’s what they paid him to call it a fan duel show then he had to disburse that money as necessary to run the entire show from the top down. ESPN is absorbing all of the production costs from Pat and then I’m sure he’s disbursing the 17M amongst himself and on air talent. Lebatard has talked about how ESPN has standards for what they pay support staff and production. You think he took a 17M/yr deal with ESPn and they didn’t agree to take on the huge production costs??? Think again.
We all like the dirt of the behind the scenes of shows we watch. We watch a lot of ESPN (me for over 25 years) so knowing the people and the crazy is fascinating! Keep it up
You clearly do not understand Pat or his brand. He would have called out anyone regardless of anyone backing him or not. This is not a power shift, this is someone who actually doesn't care what you or anyone else thinks of them. That is true power, kneel before no man.
Why does it always anger the bots that this show is interested in the sports media landscape when they are in the sports media landscape themselves? They talk about ESPN and FS1 but no one complains when they talk about Skip and FS1 lol. Stop crying and ignore the topic and these videos if you dont wanna hear it
This reminds me that the ESPN Ombudsman was always a favorite of mine. Calling out decisions to air/cover a topic when it was sports or sports-adjacent and then have a neutral party shine a light on the decision makers.
Mr. DLB I am glad to see you doin well, pat brought me back to you, sorry it took me so long to find you again but I am excited to be a fan for years to come.
WTF!!! Who are these guys? Literally took me 1 min to realize that I am an instant fan!!! First time viewer here. You guys are 😎AF... How have I not heard of this show? LOVE IT!!!!!
I know there’s whole intro for when Dan talk about the inner workings of the media, but I do care. Mind you, there’s while podcasts where people talk about the inner workings of their industry (Hip-Hop, Music, Politics), so there being a place that has an honest conversation about the inner workings of sports media is needed. In part because, it’s good to know what takes that we’re listening to are biased / coming from a certain place. For instance, some popular analysts are fans of certain teams, and they get unabashedly irrational about their teams. It’s good to know about things like this, as it helps understand the media I’m consuming. So… please… continue to talk about this stuff. The insights about ESPN being a production company more than a personality company, helps understand what I’ve consumed in the past, personalities that I’ve liked, why they’ve gone elsewhere, and how to further digest certain channels and shows.
Lifelong fan Dan, hope all is well, but Pat beat ESPN way before he even got there. PMS on UA-cam was beating everything on ESPN that rivaled his time slot. Pat had bested Norbie long before this incident. The people voted with their views.
Norby was my old boss. I worked on The Fantasy Show and we had a puppet of him that you guys played with one time if you remember. I’ll never forget how mad Ed was when he saw you guys playing with the puppets 😂 good times, fun memories of my time there. They sent me packing as well once Matthew left and our show got cancelled.
Pat has cultivated his own audience. That's the reason he's on ESPN, but it's also the reason he doesn't need Espn. Thats true freedom, that he is beholden to know one. Maybe one day there will be a sister station, MSPN.
Dan got the inside scoop of things never said about anyone else, maybe Golic and Ryen but this is what the public needs to know! So many got shafted by Shannon SAS and Pat alone and great journalists nonetheless. even if people get tired of it, it still needs to be talked about! if Skip and Shannon didn’t have a rift caused by Skip, they’d by FAR have the best lineup of sports shows on television.
This is an indicator of a huge shift in entertainment that is desperately needed. Getting the old suits and vulture capitalists out and the talent back in charge is underway, and it's a huge coup.
pat is more powerful then espn. they can’t cancel him and survive. he would just keep doing his show sense he owns it. he owns the network. can say whatever he wants.
I know Dan mentioned he was fine with Skipper, but how does he not see his blind spots now that he partnered with the guy who was supposed to be in charge of the person who was controlling/manipulating what Dan could and could not do on air?
Race and politics got Jemelle hill and Michael smith fired from sports center. If I wanted to listen to that content I would turn on the news, not SPORTS CENTER
Football on espn is power! Pat + college game day + his show = ratings football football football. Steven A will be gone soon too nobody wants to talk basketball 24/7 like they do football follow the money guys
People follow this because ESPN production sucks. I used to leave ESPN all day. Since Mike& Mike , high questionable, all the good radio guys that at different networks. Now I don’t even turn it on. Stephan A. is only seem excellent because all the talent is gone.
I ONLY watch the inside baseball (media) clips now because I get tired of listening to Dan's crew be such assholes to Dan. They seem smart and fun, but not at all understanding that what came before them matters.
Also, you have or will never be as big as Pat McAfee. You can't say that you should have done such in his situation because you have never been on the level he is at right now. No disrespect but the Dan Le batard show was never huge on ESPN. It was just a filler show. Let's be real here. Can't rewrite history
Let’s be honest. It’s literally just Pat. Pat generates so much views and likes. SAS don’t have no where near the power Pat has. ESPN is literally about to let him walk. SAS is the only one that thinks he gots juice. Theres a reason he made the call to get Shannon because he himself knows he can’t compete at all next to Pat.
Dan Le Batard running his " show " like Harvey Levin runs his TMZ show is ridiculous. Somehow he landed on my feed, but every time I listen I wonder why I just wasted precious minutes of my time. This show says nothing and is about nothing. Why they are paying him big dollars is beyond me.
As a long time Highly Questionable listener, Dan talking about the inner workings of ESPN when Pat had his rant about Norby is what brought me back to watching this channel. Keep it coming!
I’m very much an outlier, so my opinions are usually unpopular, but for what little it’s worth, I love hearing your discussions of sports media. Keep it coming!
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Agreed! Lol
Probably not as much as you think. I agree that it’s fascinating seeing the man behind the curtain for these giant companies.
Are opinions about popularity
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Great comment/question by Jess. Dan seems envious of McAfee being the wrecking ball at ESPN.
From his interview with All the Smoke, he actually admitted as such multiple times.
Envious in an admirable way though. I don’t think it’s maliciously
He's dripping with jealousy. Make no mistake. Maybe not as much as SAS though.
The reason why Pat was the one that got him axed is because Pat has something that no one else that Norby stepped to had. True options. Pat has a major audience that he cultivated on his own. He's never needed ESPN. He could leave the network tomorrow and be no worse off. ESPN is gonna be the one hurting. You could substitute any exec in the company (including Iger) and Pat would've still come out of it okay. This is what media companies are dealing with now. They have to be the ones smart enough to pick their battles against creators.
I agree that he doesn’t necessarily need ESPN but he did choose to go with them because it makes his show bigger… which mean a further reach and more money. Don’t act like he did anybody any favors, it’s a partnership, and both shows are better with each other.
They don't need him or Stephen A
@@annierushing4796you don’t cut back as much as ESPN has, and say “they don’t need them”. You’d been right 5-10 years ago, but outside of live sports, that network is dependent on those 2 dudes.
@@avantesmith6442 Maybe.
@zachsabbath1your retort is based on surface level information. His FanDuel deal did not include any production costs. That’s what they paid him to call it a fan duel show then he had to disburse that money as necessary to run the entire show from the top down. ESPN is absorbing all of the production costs from Pat and then I’m sure he’s disbursing the 17M amongst himself and on air talent. Lebatard has talked about how ESPN has standards for what they pay support staff and production. You think he took a 17M/yr deal with ESPn and they didn’t agree to take on the huge production costs??? Think again.
We all like the dirt of the behind the scenes of shows we watch. We watch a lot of ESPN (me for over 25 years) so knowing the people and the crazy is fascinating! Keep it up
You clearly do not understand Pat or his brand. He would have called out anyone regardless of anyone backing him or not. This is not a power shift, this is someone who actually doesn't care what you or anyone else thinks of them. That is true power, kneel before no man.
Crazy part is that pat isn’t even directly employed by ESPN and he’s basically calling the shots.
We like hearing the sports media talk from Dan. Very enlightening!
Dan has never been right about anything in his life. Matter of fact the exact opposite will occur of what Dan enlightens
Why does it always anger the bots that this show is interested in the sports media landscape when they are in the sports media landscape themselves? They talk about ESPN and FS1 but no one complains when they talk about Skip and FS1 lol. Stop crying and ignore the topic and these videos if you dont wanna hear it
So, anyone who disagrees with you is a "bot"? How convenient for you. Enjoy your bubble life!
Because everyone knows Skip is a parody of himself and Dan is usually right about him. That's why nobody complains.
This reminds me that the ESPN Ombudsman was always a favorite of mine. Calling out decisions to air/cover a topic when it was sports or sports-adjacent and then have a neutral party shine a light on the decision makers.
I care about this stuff. ESPN and other traditional media need to change to catch up. Glad Pat is helping push that forward
I thoroughly enjoy the sports media talk!
I'm here for it too!!
Keep the conversations about sports media going!! Also, more attention to business in sports please!
Mr. DLB I am glad to see you doin well, pat brought me back to you, sorry it took me so long to find you again but I am excited to be a fan for years to come.
Watching is a totally different experience. Prayers🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Dan said Norby is quitting early in this clip, but it’s getting reported that he’s getting fired even though he has a few years left on his contract.
😂😂😂thx you Jess
Norby started in mail room at ESPN over 40 years ago, and has only 5 people in his LinkedIn network; he'll have another top job in 5min.
And nobody really cares that he can get a job in 5 mins. just as long as he's gone from ESPN
Broadcasting talk. So much fun!
Dan is 100% right we all want to hear about sports media inner workings, thank you 🙏
Damn, Dan just showing those bennies
Yezzurski! He only had hunneds so I guess he can't pay a $5 fine.
entire point in about 15 seconds: 10:25
The two biggest mouths have the biggest power.
WTF!!! Who are these guys? Literally took me 1 min to realize that I am an instant fan!!! First time viewer here. You guys are 😎AF... How have I not heard of this show? LOVE IT!!!!!
I throughly enjoy the sports media talk
Quietly called out? Yeah...called him a rat, by name, on his show. Whisper quiet, Dan. Brilliant take.
I know there’s whole intro for when Dan talk about the inner workings of the media, but I do care. Mind you, there’s while podcasts where people talk about the inner workings of their industry (Hip-Hop, Music, Politics), so there being a place that has an honest conversation about the inner workings of sports media is needed. In part because, it’s good to know what takes that we’re listening to are biased / coming from a certain place. For instance, some popular analysts are fans of certain teams, and they get unabashedly irrational about their teams. It’s good to know about things like this, as it helps understand the media I’m consuming. So… please… continue to talk about this stuff. The insights about ESPN being a production company more than a personality company, helps understand what I’ve consumed in the past, personalities that I’ve liked, why they’ve gone elsewhere, and how to further digest certain channels and shows.
Dan with the subtle blue faces flash😂😂😂
dan swiping andrew marchand at the beginning was killer
Lifelong fan Dan, hope all is well, but Pat beat ESPN way before he even got there. PMS on UA-cam was beating everything on ESPN that rivaled his time slot. Pat had bested Norbie long before this incident. The people voted with their views.
Pat the new sheriff/executive in town 😎
wow jessica asking the tough question, amin with the vulnerability, dan reflecting and lastly dan’s breakdown of the timeline…. phew. tense.
dan you’re absolutely right i only click on these videos when it’s corporate sports gossip
Norby was my old boss. I worked on The Fantasy Show and we had a puppet of him that you guys played with one time if you remember. I’ll never forget how mad Ed was when he saw you guys playing with the puppets 😂 good times, fun memories of my time there. They sent me packing as well once Matthew left and our show got cancelled.
Pat has cultivated his own audience. That's the reason he's on ESPN, but it's also the reason he doesn't need Espn. Thats true freedom, that he is beholden to know one. Maybe one day there will be a sister station, MSPN.
Dan got the inside scoop of things never said about anyone else, maybe Golic and Ryen but this is what the public needs to know! So many got shafted by Shannon SAS and Pat alone and great journalists nonetheless. even if people get tired of it, it still needs to be talked about! if Skip and Shannon didn’t have a rift caused by Skip, they’d by FAR have the best lineup of sports shows on television.
This is an indicator of a huge shift in entertainment that is desperately needed. Getting the old suits and vulture capitalists out and the talent back in charge is underway, and it's a huge coup.
Love the media talk
yes we are interested.
the firing of an ESPN Executive....riveting.
I'm here for it. Also more 😔 n and a chorus of zagaki
pat is more powerful then espn. they can’t cancel him and survive. he would just keep doing his show sense he owns it. he owns the network. can say whatever he wants.
Yes, I care about this stuff!
I know Dan mentioned he was fine with Skipper, but how does he not see his blind spots now that he partnered with the guy who was supposed to be in charge of the person who was controlling/manipulating what Dan could and could not do on air?
Dan keeps stacks on deck and a V10 R8 outside
The way he puts cash in his wallet makes me want to vomit🤮😂😂
@@sirwolfjob1438 might as well just crumple it up into a ball 😂
Pat IS the Executive Producer of his show.
I thought u wanted someone to fight eson pat did it
here for the media talk
Every time I tune in, you guys are always talking about espn.
Pat is the best thing to happen to media, not just sports media, in a long long time
Race and politics got Jemelle hill and Michael smith fired from sports center. If I wanted to listen to that content I would turn on the news, not SPORTS CENTER
The only sad part about Norby exiting is that he probably received a $100M severance package.
McAfee and Stephen A. This much talent hasn’t been under one roof since NASA and the moonshot.
When did Donovan McNabb join the show?
Tell us why the ESPN mean girls hate Caitlin. We probably know but would like your take...
Media is going back to its roots. The Host makes the show. Not the producers telling the host what to plug.
Your name being Norby is crazy
It's like the opposite of Burke.
I care dan that's why i watch
Take the Fernandez jersey down I don't think he's someone we should celebrate.
The people want NHL at Oakland Arena because major league cities deserve big time sports
Not gonna happen. Put an NHL team in San Diego instead.
@@dreamcage1801As far as I know San Diego is satisfied with the San Diego Gulls.
@@rapalbumdepot7648 stan kroenke said recently that he wants a NHL team in SD.
They could call the team the Oakland Seals.
@@nachobroryan8824DOWN
It’s interesting to me, Dan. Let my boy cook
Magnus. Also the name of the best chess player in the world
Of all time
I care about this stuff...keep it coming
Good lord. This show is a wreck, with the great Dan. Dude, please slim down the voices and talk, we love your opinions.
Dudes pretty proud of his little sports media talk song...lol.
Good job Pat
I watch Dan for the dirt, basically. I feel a little called out :P
nah, we're happy you're here.
Damn you have a ton of views and subscribers lol
Long live King Roy
Pat from the top rope!
Jealous much Dan?
1:48 why does Dan have multiple $100 bills on him?? 👀😂
Football on espn is power!
Pat + college game day + his show = ratings football football football. Steven A will be gone soon too nobody wants to talk basketball 24/7 like they do football follow the money guys
Sage Steele is the only sane person who has worked there in the last ten years.
It like that 50year old skater dude at MYV..it’s sad.
People follow this because ESPN production sucks. I used to leave ESPN all day. Since Mike& Mike , high questionable, all the good radio guys that at different networks. Now I don’t even turn it on. Stephan A. is only seem excellent because all the talent is gone.
ESPN just got even dumber.
I hope the NBA leaves ESPN
Whenever you do Sports Media talk, can you send the kids to their mama, so we can hear a serious discussion without the stupid ass interruptions?
I love Pat mcafee
I ONLY watch the inside baseball (media) clips now because I get tired of listening to Dan's crew be such assholes to Dan. They seem smart and fun, but not at all understanding that what came before them matters.
Ellis Burke
I care about the sports media content
Fued
Also, you have or will never be as big as Pat McAfee. You can't say that you should have done such in his situation because you have never been on the level he is at right now. No disrespect but the Dan Le batard show was never huge on ESPN. It was just a filler show. Let's be real here. Can't rewrite history
Shorsey !
Dan sounds jealous of Pat.
Fortune favors the bold.
Dan wasn’t Bold.
He was vanilla .
Hahahahaj. Pat took him out!?!?!?
He shouldn't be afraid of anyone. Pat just wants to win. If you cross him, he is not going to be a good boy. He is going to call you out.
I care about this topic
I care Dan
Let’s be honest. It’s literally just Pat. Pat generates so much views and likes. SAS don’t have no where near the power Pat has. ESPN is literally about to let him walk. SAS is the only one that thinks he gots juice. Theres a reason he made the call to get Shannon because he himself knows he can’t compete at all next to Pat.
Hahaha poor Dan is salty!
This is becoming an obsession that needs to end
I want the dirt... lol
Why is Molly still on First Take?!?!
These guys are obsessed with whats going on at espn get over it and move on
Yet you're watching / listening. Get over it and move on.
@briancain tells us how much of a groupie you are for people who don't you?
Everything you always wanted
ESPN hired McAfee cause they work cheap! They probably work for beer and Dominos.
ESPN has really gone down in the last couple of years!
Dan Le Batard running his " show " like Harvey Levin runs his TMZ show is ridiculous. Somehow he landed on my feed, but every time I listen I wonder why I just wasted precious minutes of my time. This show says nothing and is about nothing. Why they are paying him big dollars is beyond me.
GONG!!!! you don't get the show....
@@winebuyah Wouldn't want my IQ to have to descend that low. Enjoy your show! I have it blocked from my feed!
Just like pro wrestling is not cool, sports media talk is not cool. It's talking about the people who talk about people playing sports, snoozeville.
Stop talking about your ex.