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    In this episode of DIY or Buy we will have a look at two different microphone types in order to find out whether it makes sense to DIY our own micorphone for voice-overs or whether we should just stick with commercial products.
    Music:
    2011 Lookalike by Bartlebeats
    Killing Time, Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
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  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 6 років тому +184

    I really like this "DIY or buy?" series. I always ask myself that when I need something.

    • @Aydentv
      @Aydentv 4 роки тому +13

      My choices are usually diy or go sit and cry lol be broke

    • @kubakrawczuk7450
      @kubakrawczuk7450 2 роки тому +1

      @@Aydentv same haha

  • @websitesthatneedanem
    @websitesthatneedanem 6 років тому +1606

    0:15 ..... or just repair / replace the USB Socket!

  • @jules_hjar
    @jules_hjar 6 років тому +390

    Are you sure your sound card did not affect the recording of the diy mic ? Because the studio mic has an integrated sound card that might be better than your computers internal one!

    • @INeedAttentionEXE
      @INeedAttentionEXE 5 років тому +29

      Maybe, maybe not. A lot of modern computers have great audio codecs that can be just as good as a usb microphone or its studio XLR counterpart.
      This discounts the fact that XLR is a balanced signal and usb is digital.

    • @scivirus3563
      @scivirus3563 5 років тому +26

      I would not use USB for voice over and sure as hell not a standard soundcard.. Dude it will never get as good as an XLR. Because of signal to noise ratio

    • @lanchanoinguyen2914
      @lanchanoinguyen2914 4 роки тому +4

      you're right,but i doubt the point that the studio microphone was invested too much in the the ADC chip.Because the microphone by the way has to be connected to a dedicated audio interface before the computer.

    • @sophiophile
      @sophiophile 4 роки тому +19

      @@INeedAttentionEXE No matter what at some point the analog signal travelling along the XLR cable will get digitized for use on a computer. And so having it built into the mic means there is no cable length for signal degredation (you can think of the USB mic having a XLR cable length of nearly zero, assuming it's balanced circuit topology)

    • @davemwangi05
      @davemwangi05 4 роки тому +5

      @@sophiophile Yeah, yours is the best comment I've ever seen in this channel. point delivered.

  • @Cesar_III
    @Cesar_III 4 роки тому +82

    I think this test is unfair. Electret microphones needs some housing to avoid the "echo". To make it somewhat similar, I at least would put the band-pass filter in the condenser mic.

    • @jekader
      @jekader 3 роки тому +1

      I also can't confirm that microphone capsules aren't sold separately - they are and that would be a fair comparison IMHO.

    • @johnrubensaragi4125
      @johnrubensaragi4125 3 роки тому +1

      7:08 He did add band-pass filter.

    • @siontheodorus1501
      @siontheodorus1501 3 роки тому +4

      @@kevinbissinger yeah this is what i thought. With a good electrec capsule and proper placement it can sound nearly as good it not just as good as a studio microphone

    • @VidarrKerr
      @VidarrKerr 3 роки тому +6

      Yeah, this was almost like comparing speakers in a cabinet vs speakers without a cabinet.

    • @Abhyuday_rai
      @Abhyuday_rai 3 роки тому

      @@siontheodorus1501 are these electret ones need an additional power as one of the plate is permanently charged

  • @boris5448
    @boris5448 6 років тому +172

    Hey greatscott maybe you can make a diy or buy episode about lipo balance chargers, or even a episode on how to build them. Because there are not a lot of diy lipo balace chargers on the internet and buying one is a little bit expensive. Besides that, if we know how to make it we can make more safe battery packs in our diy devices, for instance: make an electric longboard with batterypack and built in charger so you only need to plug in an adapter and dont have to plug the bttery out everytime you charge or have a less save batterypack with a bms.
    I hope you will see this! And loove your vids, one of the best youtuber

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +73

      I put it on my to do list

    • @ironskippy
      @ironskippy 6 років тому +13

      I'd like to see a vid about this as well, so +1 from me

    • @boris5448
      @boris5448 6 років тому +10

      GreatScott! Im looking forward to it

    • @shaymysarmstrong3278
      @shaymysarmstrong3278 6 років тому +4

      Hey guys, just my take on this subject, i think that it would be a lot easier to a buy a cheap sub $20 charger than to make one.

    • @billkaroly
      @billkaroly 6 років тому +1

      Ditto

  • @eddunne5255
    @eddunne5255 6 років тому +7

    I work with audio for a living and train high schoolers as well. This is an interesting and quality explanation of condenser mics from the functional standpoint. Definitely going to incorporate this video into my curriculum!

  • @searchiemusic
    @searchiemusic Рік тому +16

    "usb studio microphone" is an oxymoron

  • @4ndrej
    @4ndrej 6 років тому +9

    I think that reducing both filters (lowering the low pass and extending the high pass frequencies) could greatly improve the resulting sound of voice recording.

  • @proyectosledar
    @proyectosledar 6 років тому +309

    Excellent video! I have been using for years a diy mic in my videos. it works for me xD cheers

    • @brianm.7421
      @brianm.7421 6 років тому +5

      Saludos Gastón!
      Tanto tu canal como este, son mis favoritos!

    • @ludus1135
      @ludus1135 6 років тому +1

      Same

    • @pawEHO
      @pawEHO 6 років тому

      Proyectos LED 8

    • @jorgetapia9672
      @jorgetapia9672 6 років тому +2

      Saludos Gastón que bueno verte por aquí...

    • @sergioares4092
      @sergioares4092 6 років тому

      Proyectos LED No te escribieron :'v

  • @cummins6945
    @cummins6945 6 років тому +144

    You could have also replaced the usb port!

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +80

      True, but that would have spoiled the fun of playing around with electret mics.

    • @Nicksperiments
      @Nicksperiments 6 років тому +11

      GreatScott! I've always wondered how to actually use these electret microphones so this was definitely better than replacing the USB jack

    • @cummins6945
      @cummins6945 6 років тому +2

      Agree

    • @simaorodrigues6285
      @simaorodrigues6285 6 років тому +2

      Wouldn't make for a good t.bone stealth ad.

    • @TheChipmunk2008
      @TheChipmunk2008 6 років тому +1

      @GreatScott... also the video would've been kinda shorter ;)

  • @poloniumsulfate2446
    @poloniumsulfate2446 6 років тому +1

    One project that I actually did. And it works well
    Kudos to great Scott for taking the time to make these projects and videos

  • @abhinavrawat2916
    @abhinavrawat2916 4 роки тому +26

    3:29 nice search suggestions

    • @RedCursonyt
      @RedCursonyt 4 роки тому

      WTF eBay!

    • @yehiellahiany163
      @yehiellahiany163 4 роки тому

      I think that he love Chevrolet... But I'm not sure...

    • @philiptrails9033
      @philiptrails9033 4 роки тому +1

      He did not clear his history😁

    • @euvo_sound
      @euvo_sound 4 роки тому +1

      Why there is "Condoms" on his search suggestions...Lol

  • @LazerLord10
    @LazerLord10 6 років тому +11

    I just use a Samson Go mic. It's a steal for $40!

  • @BoomBrush
    @BoomBrush 6 років тому +17

    I'm going to modify a TI84 graphing calculator to make phone calls. Now I know how to get the microphone working, thanks!

    • @xavierrodriguez2463
      @xavierrodriguez2463 6 років тому +1

      BoomBrush even with a microphone, how are you going to make phone calls?

    • @BoomBrush
      @BoomBrush 6 років тому +5

      using a SIm5320E module with an arduino using the IO port on the calculator to transfer the phone number.

    • @bansheedearg
      @bansheedearg 6 років тому +4

      Great niche idea, find retro handheld games and put smartphones in them.

    • @jonetech5324
      @jonetech5324 6 років тому +2

      BoomBrush I’m subbing to you I wanna see this

    • @mattjmwmatt
      @mattjmwmatt 6 років тому

      Jesus thats sketch.
      I Love it.

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias4890 4 роки тому +4

    Love the DIY or Buy series. The DIY microphone definitely has its applications! Thanks for your schematic

  • @Theta313
    @Theta313 Рік тому +1

    Can you do a DIY or buy episode for a professional quality studio mic with a nice capsule? Converting a phantom power studio mic to a USB mic with proper ADC would also be super awesome!

  • @arunbalakrishnan8978
    @arunbalakrishnan8978 6 років тому +155

    Please make for DIY noise cancelling headphones

  • @TDG2654
    @TDG2654 6 років тому +321

    For the next diy or buy: a 3d printer

    • @yungmike225
      @yungmike225 6 років тому +13

      too much work tbh buy a cheap one for around 300€ and you are good

    • @luizz1997
      @luizz1997 6 років тому

      YES!!!

    • @spurzfreak9854
      @spurzfreak9854 6 років тому

      Yes please

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 6 років тому +3

      120€ gives you a DIY kit that already kinda works - you can't beat it price wise even just for the parts cost, and if you decide that it's not good enough, you already have 5 actually very good quality motors, a decent if somewhat exotic and undocumented board, a good enough hot-end that can do massive temperatures, and lots of other parts which are honestly not particularly good (feeder, heatbed, mechanicals) but just about work, so perfectly suited for modification or rebuilding. And the frame is from melamine plywood, so you won't ruin it by drilling some new holes into it. It's the CTC i3 Pro B that you get on eBay, and the EU import tax on it has already been paid by importer.

    • @ShaunHusain
      @ShaunHusain 6 років тому +2

      Reprap project is open plans for DIY the cost is mostly in the stepper motor drivers ultimately you will need to fix or fiddle with the thing. I built a prusa i3 reprap based kit machine for $300 have two of my friends prebuilt 3d printers sitting here broke because he doesn't know how to fix them, meanwhile I upgraded mine to have an enclosure and use a Bowden extruder and print flexible materials... Point is the knowledge in that arena pays off.

  • @andrew20d
    @andrew20d 4 роки тому +1

    Man do I wish I that I'd studied electrical engineering when I was younger. You make this look easy! thanks for the videos.

  • @coin777
    @coin777 Рік тому +4

    Its time for a update on this Video. Watch DIY perks Building a quality USB-C microphone. And make a better one :)

  • @BKLYF
    @BKLYF 6 років тому +82

    With your knowledge about electronics, wouldn't it be cheaper to replace the broken USB port?

    • @thesecondcomingofsergej2135
      @thesecondcomingofsergej2135 6 років тому +5

      Naaaaah.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +75

      True, but that would have spoiled the fun of playing around with electret mics.

    • @MaxintRD
      @MaxintRD 6 років тому +7

      Same thought here... Perhaps that wouldn't have resulted in such an interesting video, but maybe it would have gotten a better value for money. Earlier today I repaired a much less expensive USB cable by replacing the connector. So I would certainly try to repair a nice studio microphone priced at nearly 100 euros...
      @GreatScott: Thank you for making another nice video, but how about changing this series into "Repair, DIY or buy"?

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +5

      Plus it wouldn't have generated a few DMarks in ad revenue ;D

    • @shlushe1050
      @shlushe1050 4 роки тому +2

      @@greatscottlab not only was it fun for you... it is very educational for all of us viewers!

  • @whollymindless
    @whollymindless 6 років тому +71

    So that's what phantom power is about when talking about mics. I had always wondered. I assume the music was from audioblocks?

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +7

      +Wholly Mindless Correct

    • @simaorodrigues6285
      @simaorodrigues6285 6 років тому +3

      Patreon supporters get to watch the videos earlier.

    • @elaquen7
      @elaquen7 6 років тому

      +Senpai Kur I think Patreons get to watch videos earlier than others.

    • @boblewis5558
      @boblewis5558 6 років тому +8

      Well actually no! Phantom power is indeed usually 48 volts but it requires the use of a microphone transformer at each end of the microphone cable. Some early high quality mics like the AKG c451E (STILL sold today, unsurprising really as it's a superb high quality mic, yet I was using this exact same microphone in 1971!!) used (uses?) a separate power supply for ease of use where phantom power was unavailable from the mixing desk (where it usually is derived or supplied). The subject is an interesting one and worth checking out on Wikipedia. Much has changed in the industry since my first job as a professional TV sound engineer after graduating, but phantom 48v power and microphones fed from it are still around and old (1970's) microphones can still be used seamlessly in modern studios or on stage rigs without problem - witness the c451E mic already mentioned. Because true phantom power requires 3 wires (2 for balanced audio and the positive 48v feeds plus an audio return) it integrated, and still does, very nicely with the ubiquitous ITT/Cannon 3 pin connectors seen on all professional audio equipment since before I was a boy.
      Where a 1/4" jack plug (6.35mm) is used it is NOT a balanced feed and in this case in order to provide phantom power a separate power supply will be used that has a built in transformer of appropriate type to which the two-core screened and balanced mic cable is attached (implies that you MUST have a balanced microphone at the other end or an equivalent adaptor from single ended to balanced feed) and which also provides an unbalanced output to connect to the mixing desk.
      Check out the Wiki, but also bear in mind that POE in the IT world is also a phantom power scenario and utilises the balanced signal transformers contained within modern (relevant ones) Ethernet RJ44 jacks. The separate POE injector units you can obtain do the exact analogous job of the separate 48v phantom feed units in the audio world. BOTH use 48v, 24v and 12v within the standards and at a basic level work in EXACTLY the same way - providing noise rejecting remote power to devices along the signal cable

    • @TrollFaceTheMan
      @TrollFaceTheMan 6 років тому +1

      Phantom power is just electricity that is needed to operate the microphone. It is a DC signal that is then converted into sound waves by the difference in capacitance between the two plates.

  • @remowo_
    @remowo_ 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks again for the awesome build and advice. I implemented your build for a simple Skype mic and worked like a charm. Your videos are youtube-electronics classics. Keep it up. Stay safe

  • @peekpt
    @peekpt 6 років тому

    Oh, you made me remind the glory days of ham radio... I used to do those kind of amplifiers, but on that configuration the noise level is to high when connected to Power supply. We used to connect it with 9v batts. I remember to make one with pair differential input, that way you zero'd all the interference captured in the mic line.

  • @ratchet1freak
    @ratchet1freak 6 років тому +3

    I wouldn't have minded seeing you fix the old studio mic, I'm sure most of the quality is nested in that capsule

  • @proginx
    @proginx 6 років тому +29

    Please do digital amplifier || DIY or Buy

  • @StratoSoar
    @StratoSoar 6 років тому

    I've built an microphone amplifier with the studio quality op-amp OPA2134PA made by Burr Brown. The sound quality is amazing! Super clear and very low noise. I recommend this amp absolutely.

  • @calyodelphi124
    @calyodelphi124 6 років тому +1

    Interestingly, I'm doing a mix of DIY and BUY with my mic. Few months ago I bought a Neewer NW-700 mic kit (comes with a mic, phatnom power supply, XLR cable, XLR-phono cable, boom arm, and pop filters all in a USD$60 kit), but I completely forgot that analogue condenser mics produce signals only a hundred or two millivolts strong.
    So I'm intermittently (when I can motivate myself) DIYing a pre-amplifier to boost the mic's output for recording. And mostly using jellybean components. The op amp I'm using is the LM324 quad op amp, with two utilized for the left/right channels of the mic output, and a third acting as just a voltage follower to buffer the 2.5V DC offset for the other op amps. I'm at the point where I just need to breadboard it and test it out to make sure that it works like it should. :)

  • @colouredcanvaswithsubhanka58
    @colouredcanvaswithsubhanka58 6 років тому +5

    Nice job yaar... Don't be upset over negative comments.

  • @kaumohlamonyane272
    @kaumohlamonyane272 6 років тому +7

    The DIY version can definitely sound better with shielding. ( I think )😂

    • @pileofstuff
      @pileofstuff 6 років тому +16

      Or with a different capsule and an enclosure.

  • @jakemasters3208
    @jakemasters3208 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for the video - I have an old broken condenser mic at home which I was always too scared to try and fix but your explanations are helpful enough for me to try and look! :)

  • @b0otable
    @b0otable 6 років тому +2

    I would be interested in seeing a follow up episode on how you could improve this design for a mic.
    Other Interested Topics:
    DIY Drone
    DIY Analog Audio In to Digital Audio self contained device (not using sound card).

  • @classicksam7366
    @classicksam7366 6 років тому +4

    Hey, maybe you can make a small surveillance system (camera and network to connect to phone) for your shed? Using a camera and seeing whenever someone is in the frame of the camera. Also you can have it notify you if there is. You can compare a DIY or whether to buy it.

    • @jeffspaulding9834
      @jeffspaulding9834 6 років тому

      If you go to woodgears.ca, Mattias Wandel has some software a a video or two on something like that up with a Raspberry Pi. He used it to monitor a mouse trap and a maze. Go to wooden machines & contraptions -> Raspberry Pi holder and scroll most of the way down (he's a woodworker, but he was an engineer for RiM so he does some electronics as well).
      You'll still need to connect it to a network and set it up to notify your phone, but that's more of a networking thing than an electronics thing.

  • @KnightsWithoutATable
    @KnightsWithoutATable 6 років тому +54

    Op-amps NEVER produce faithful amplified signals. They ALWAYS distort analog signals, even if they claim to be 'designed for audio amplification', because they amplify signal at varying levels depending on their frequency. Use op-amps for low quality audio applications, single frequency applications (like RC control signal boosting), digital signal boosting at low data rates, or a few other applications they are useful for.
    A higher quality audio amp used instead of an op-amp would make a huge difference. This would require a powered circuit and increase the bulk of the design, but we are talking about studio sized mics, so that is no problem. You could use a high quality IC amp made for audio or a set of JFETs with accompanying components for the audio amp section. A minor change to the circuit with minimal cost for the IC option and there are several that would work well.
    There were 2 mistakes in the design that also effected the quality of the audio.
    First, you need a few noise floor filters to remove inherent noise in the circuit and any light background noise. This can be done with op-amps in the correct configuration or by discrete parts. One goes between the mic and the first audio amp stage, in between any other amp stages, and one right before the output. This will do noise reduction in the entire circuit and keep the amps from raising the noise floor.
    Second, your band pass filter was at the wrong frequency ranges. You used the range for the human voice's primary frequencies. This works fine for a telephone call, but it cuts off resonant frequencies that add to the sound of the human voice and music. 20 Hz to 20 kHz is the hearing range of a young, healthy adult. Mics like this can have problems picking up both very low and high frequencies, but for voice it is not really a problem. Music is a different story. A bandpass filter set to 20-20k Hz right after the noise filter at each stage and the initial would be the best filtering solution. You do not need one on the output since the sound card has a bandpass filter built in.
    There is also the consideration of what your sound card had for the sample rate on its analog to digital converter. This can make a massive difference on sound quality. The USB studio mics would have a very high and high bit-width output from theirs and would have told Windows through the USB connection to use the correct sample rate. Many sound cards built into motherboards are not of very high quality, but there also is the possibility that Windows defaulted to a low sample rate. Go into the mic properties and try turning the sample rate up.

    • @hanelyp1
      @hanelyp1 6 років тому

      Ideally the feedback network sets the frequency response of an op-amp. And if the signal is within the chip's capabilities it works that way. But given real world op-amp characteristics, a circuit may do very well at lower frequencies but struggle to keep up with higher frequencies. It sounds like he needs a faster op-amp for his microphone.

    • @lordjoshuarobindumbleton275
      @lordjoshuarobindumbleton275 6 років тому

      Google 'Unity Gain Bandwidh Product' please.

    • @researchandbuild1751
      @researchandbuild1751 6 років тому +2

      I dont see how you can reduce the noise floor by adding even more components. I think the only core problem in his circuit is the filters. It is cutting off a lot of the low end and that why it sounds like a telephone. Most likely its the electret microphones frequency response that is the issue, not the opamp. Ive used low noise opamps before (-100db noise) and they always work great. Also, the electret has to be in a decent housing to focus the audio waves

    • @ninovitaliano7943
      @ninovitaliano7943 6 років тому +4

      THIS IS THE LONGEST. COMMENT. EVER

    • @BillAnt
      @BillAnt 5 років тому +1

      The op-amp can be configured for a noise level threshold cutoff, therefore it will not have an output unless the signal level reaches a certain predefined level/frequency. Course the flip side of this is, that it can clamp certain levels/frequencies and will never sound as good as a professional mic.
      It's called poor man's DIY mic :D

  • @MikkoRantalainen
    @MikkoRantalainen 2 роки тому

    It's important to understand that there are 3 kind of microphones. Pure dynamic microphones that actually generate very small amount of electricity from sound waves, electret microphones that require 3-5 V bias voltage (also called plug-in power) that this video is about and condensator microphones that require 48 V phantom voltage.
    The problem is that many electret microphones are incorrectly advertised as dynamic microphones and people end up claiming that some microphone is not compatible with some device when the device only supports dynamic microphone and user tries to use (incorrectly advertised?) electret microphone.

  • @ajnsztajn2841
    @ajnsztajn2841 5 років тому

    U are a God in drawing understandable schematics. Seriously

  • @joveaaron-real
    @joveaaron-real 4 роки тому +37

    3:29
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    edit: thank you guys for all of this likes never had so many :)

    • @philiptrails9033
      @philiptrails9033 4 роки тому

      He did not delete history😁

    • @joveaaron-real
      @joveaaron-real 4 роки тому +5

      @@philiptrails9033 He didn't browse that. The only thing is... WHO'S SO CRAZY TO BUY CONDOMS ON EBAY? YOU CAN SAY IT'S NEW BUT IMAGINE YOU ARE BEING SOLD A PAPER ENVELOPE WITH USED CONDOMS.

  • @rexaredim
    @rexaredim 8 місяців тому +3

    I know this question is 6yrs late😅 but why didn't you use a positive and negative 5volt for the op amp. I'm trying to learn how to use op amps so forgive the noob question 😅. 6:50

  • @pankajroy5124
    @pankajroy5124 6 років тому +2

    GREATSCOTT You have slight background noise in your video besides your voice and background music from 4:12 .
    Just a week ago I got RODE NT USB microphone and it works like charm. Also no matter what microphone you use you always have to Normalize, Equalize, Compress, Limit and again Normalize sound waves to get better results. Also with proper Voice modulation and Software use one can get very decent voice over even from cheap Electret microphone i.e., headphone microphone. But to do song recording you definitely need better studio grade microphone.
    As usual this was again a great video which I enjoyed a lot. YOU SIMPLY ROCK!!!!!

  • @Stevensherah
    @Stevensherah 6 років тому +1

    This is great.
    Now i have the solution to my camera Microphone recording.
    Small and compact for this kind of use.
    Wooow wat a great project Scott

  • @williamzacharias624
    @williamzacharias624 6 років тому +5

    I would like to see a video on shift registers. Never fully understood how they worked or what purpose they served.

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +4

      I put it on my to do list

    • @bansheedearg
      @bansheedearg 6 років тому +1

      They convert serial to parallel and vice versa. Like a hard drive, SATA, will spew bits serially and it uses a shift register to load up 8 bits or 32 bits or whatever. Likewise you have a 32 bit word and you want to write it to disk, you have to serialize it, so you shift it out one bit at a time, presto parallel to serial. Smart LED strips are like a shift register, you load the colors serially and then see them all at once (parallel). That might be a fun project, 3 wires (clock, data, ground) to a shift register and 8 outputs to LEDs so you have your own smart display.

    • @williamzacharias624
      @williamzacharias624 6 років тому

      Sean Brennan So how could you use it on a serial LCD? I saw a video of someone use a shift register to reduce the number of wires from 12 to 5 going into an arduino without explaining what it did, or even what wires go where.

    • @bansheedearg
      @bansheedearg 6 років тому +1

      He probably had a parallel LCD, which wants 8 bit commands. Instead of using 8 data lines, he used 2, one to clock in data, one for the data itself. So he would clock in 8 bits to make a byte, then tell the LCD to execute the command. Nowadays you don't really need parallel devices and can go straight to I2C and use libraries. The other lines were probably ground and enable or some such.

    • @williamzacharias624
      @williamzacharias624 6 років тому

      Sean Brennan OK thanks for your help.

  • @jemand771
    @jemand771 6 років тому +29

    great video!
    suggestion: diy or buy: arduino (buy e.g an arduino uno or use an atmega chip and build the "fancy stuff" like headers, regulator, ftdi chip, ... arount it yourself)

    • @GRBtutorials
      @GRBtutorials 6 років тому +4

      If you compare to the original Arduinos (now called Genuino here in Europe), then it's definitely a win for the DIY, since an -Arduino- Genuino UNO costs 20 € + shipping (which is very expensive, 10 € minimum to Spain). If we compare to the clones, then it's definitely a win for the buy, since they're only 4 € and free shipping. The only downside is the time they take (minimum 1 week).

    • @Teth47
      @Teth47 6 років тому

      Well if you're starting with a 16/32 pin DIP package all you need is power, a USB FTDI controller if you're programming it that way, and a pin breakout... Almost guaranteed that buying an arduino is cheaper, unless you're getting the super expensive ones. You can get a Pro Mini for like a dollar or two.

    • @acgandhi
      @acgandhi 6 років тому +1

      Julian Ilett has actually done a video like that: ua-cam.com/video/sNIMCdVOHOM/v-deo.html

  • @Vilvaran
    @Vilvaran 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video, I've got an idea for improvements to the circuitry:
    1. The op-amp could be replaced with an ordinary audio transistor for a simpler circuit using less parts without hampering it's performance!
    2. Adding a RIAA (or similar) filter to the circuit to suppress the higher frequencies, which should make the output less "tinny"...
    N.B. It's the latter of the two which will make the output quality nearly indistinguishable from the high-end mic!
    Also, output filter cap. It's not there, which could hurt certain devices when this is plugged in due to the 2.5V bias on the output!
    Analog designs can be a headache, but it's worth it to make as good a circuit as you possibly can...

  • @robwgeorge
    @robwgeorge 6 років тому

    I think I finally understand high and low pass filters as a side effect. Awesome video...thanks

  • @pramod_Kumar..
    @pramod_Kumar.. 6 років тому +3

    Can you please make DIY or BUY episode on RC transmitter and receiver ?

  • @Dr.SanjeevSaxena
    @Dr.SanjeevSaxena 6 років тому +5

    Your efforts always add quantum shift to my growing understanding.
    Thanks and best wishes 😊👍

  • @gerrymcerlean8432
    @gerrymcerlean8432 3 роки тому

    An electret microphone module, which has a microphone mounted on a small pcb with a MAX4466 pre-amp, is available on ebay for about 3 euro. The gain is adjustable from 25 to 125.

  • @basvandersluis5662
    @basvandersluis5662 6 років тому

    Excellent video. Watched this 5 minutes after I ordered my new USB studio microphone. After all, it still was a good choice. Thanks for sharing.

  • @qwertyentertainment3349
    @qwertyentertainment3349 6 років тому +4

    Hey scott, great video! Very interesting. I wonder, could you show how to make a noise cancelling circuit for such a microphone to increase the audio quality? Or perhaps for noise cancelling headphones?

  • @derknistermann5613
    @derknistermann5613 6 років тому +24

    I would like to see a diy/buy version for synthesizers e.g. 8-bit synthesizers.
    Great job you did tho

  • @rutaElectronics
    @rutaElectronics 6 років тому

    GreatScott! I hope one day you will make a video ( not a project ) but a video on how you succeeded in electronics. Electronics is so tough but you can make it somehow easier for someone to learn.

  • @bitluni
    @bitluni 6 років тому

    Like your result. Quality compares to what I experienced when I did my electret microphone tutorial. The small capsules and the soundcard ADCs are basically too bad to get a good result.

  • @eggsedan
    @eggsedan 6 років тому +6

    please can you do 3d printer diy or buy?

  • @Mrengineer1
    @Mrengineer1 6 років тому +13

    Awsome Video Dear Scott!

  • @shlomohassid5888
    @shlomohassid5888 3 роки тому

    I love those tiny micros - Built a custom UNO shield just for this that supports all tiny micros with some dedicated test sockets too. you can find it on tindie - Just type 'All ATtiny Arduino programmer shield'

  • @petersage5157
    @petersage5157 3 роки тому

    I stumbled across this video while looking for DIY intercom systems to aid in communication across Perspex barriers (COVID-19). Since the cheapest electret mics have peaks that emphasize articulations in human speech, it's clear that these are better suited to my purpose than large diaphragm condenser mics, especially in an environment with a lot of background noise.

  • @jordanwaughtal7649
    @jordanwaughtal7649 6 років тому +37

    Does it sound any different going into a quality USB ADC?

    • @sucotronic
      @sucotronic 6 років тому +12

      I agree with your. To do a fair comparison, a quality USB AD is needed.

    • @RadOo
      @RadOo 6 років тому +1

      True ;)

    • @Barbaratio
      @Barbaratio 6 років тому +4

      Actually, your PC also uses an ADC, sound card or on board audio, they both use an ADC

    • @sucotronic
      @sucotronic 6 років тому +12

      The problem is that he is comparing a commercial capacitive mic with built in ADC with a capacitive mic connected to mic input. To be fair he would use an external usb ADC chip in conjunction with the electret mic in the comparison.

    • @RadOo
      @RadOo 6 років тому +6

      Using built-in ADC has one disadvantage, the audio is polluted with noises from the power supply, external for example USB ADC regulate the voltage and you'll get lot less notice from it 😉

  • @clakoclakson
    @clakoclakson 5 років тому +6

    8:59 lel quite disapointed for a 57€ RODE mic... t. bone are the best haha

  • @oggamez5735
    @oggamez5735 3 роки тому

    I used the LM386 audio amplifier, and when I played it through the computer, it sounded almost exactly as I would hear my voice when I'm talking.

  • @keithmanning6564
    @keithmanning6564 6 років тому

    DIY or buy is actually a great series idea

  • @HAXAHAX
    @HAXAHAX 6 років тому +17

    DIY or buy 4k 60fps camera are you up for the challenge

  • @SinanAkkoyun
    @SinanAkkoyun 6 років тому +5

    Is it because of the high pass filter?

    • @dusshan1
      @dusshan1 6 років тому

      the same feeling from my side, just a different eq , perhaps already build in the factory mic circuit to boost some frequencies

    • @Damian-lc7xt
      @Damian-lc7xt 4 роки тому

      I think you are right, and i think cut off at 15kHz is bit too low. I mean this should be 20kHz about . For me this diy Mic sounds „low”

  • @johnkreno2488
    @johnkreno2488 2 роки тому

    I'd love to see this revisited with what DIY Perks just did.

  • @hotpeppersrcool
    @hotpeppersrcool 4 роки тому

    FUGGING AWESOME DUDE!!!! Two thumbs up! I can't even fathom how you got 337 "thumbs down" on this! But, then again, out of well over 1,000 YT vids that I've watched - i've NEVER seen one that didn't have a few hundred "thumbs downs"... HUMANS!!! Whatevah... I've done this audio/electronic stuff for well over 40 years now - but I am gonna post this on FB to show my friends the kind of stuff that I do. They have no clue and (like most engineers) you probably explained it to the general populous better than I could... LOL! The only thing that could have made it better was if you were to show the results of the noise results before and after you added the 5532 preamp. The 5532 (also know as the NE5532) is a great chip and was utilized in many many pro-audio consoles back in the day! Also, that big (non-electret) TRUE condenser diaphragm IS available by itself! Those are mainly made in China. No, not "gold sputtered" like the Neumann's or AKG's - but "close enough". It would be nice to see you compare your cheap favorite Chinese clone mic TO a Neumann - and then also to DIY a U88 with your fav mic - and a Neumann (if you can find or rent one). Also, you might want to use a better mic pre than "the green jack" found on EVERY PC. The USB jack mic uses a much better converter than your standard computer - and KUDOS to opening up the mic to show us what it is - but the converter I use cost $1,000 (when it was new) and is obviously quite better than either that you are using. You are almost giving your DIY mike quite a disadvantage by plugging it into a cheap computer A/D (aka "the green jack"). Usually that doesn't matter - but to us "golden ears" types, it does! AND if doing a "real world" test between the two, ummm... the MP3 quality of youtube is not the way! How about a 24 bit/96K UNCOMPRESSED WAV (or the Apple format) to show us the REAL sound of these mics!

  • @maheshbhat8714
    @maheshbhat8714 6 років тому +44

    I would like to see DIY or BUY wall adapter. May be 12 V 2A or similar

    • @Nicksperiments
      @Nicksperiments 6 років тому +8

      Mahesh Bhat I'd have to say buy unless you can salvage a transformer. You can get wall adapters pretty darn cheap but a transformer alone would be more expensive since manufacturers can buy them in bulk whereas DIYers don't. Wall adapters are simple though. Just a transformer, full bridge rectifier, and voltage regulator

    • @byteofwood
      @byteofwood 6 років тому +5

      Buy would be much cheaper

    • @shahidnazir9747
      @shahidnazir9747 6 років тому +1

      now that is a disgrase who make adapters its really wise to use readly available ones

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 6 років тому +1

      Nicksperiments Yeah they aren't super complicated but you forgot one very important reason to buy over diy, any half decent pre-made adapter usually has a number of safety features, such as class x/y capacitors, isolation slots, opto isolators, etc... All things you can implement yourself of course but it adds to an already more expensive project which might be less safe than a cheap chinese adapter off ebay.

    • @bitelaserkhalif
      @bitelaserkhalif 6 років тому +5

      Nicksperiments did anyone say... FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER?

  • @tarveshmaheshwari
    @tarveshmaheshwari 4 роки тому +3

    *Can I get the Schematic for this Project, Please*

    • @__MINT_
      @__MINT_ 3 роки тому

      It's on the video

  • @grazianoturbogas
    @grazianoturbogas 6 років тому +2

    Hallo Greay Scott! I've seen your video and I'm very inerested in the circuit of your old mocrophone. As an Arduino project fan, I am now really apreciating ADC's and the one on your old microphone should be FAST SAMPLING and may be at least 16 bit.
    Here is the question: "can you figure out how to remove the DC bias filter on your old USB microphone?"
    The goal shoud be transforming that USB microphone into a (maybe two channel or in a sinhle channel) USB data acquisition card!!!! That can be veeeery cheap! Thank you!

  • @thfreakinacage
    @thfreakinacage 3 роки тому

    I have the exact same 440 mic! Before leaving England I used to buy all my music stuff from thomann in Germany! They had the best prices around, and obviously no import tax from the EU. Sadly, it's hard to find good value quality stuff in Australia where I am now.

  • @guusvanmarle7344
    @guusvanmarle7344 6 років тому +26

    diy or buy variable lab bench power supply.

    • @shahidnazir9747
      @shahidnazir9747 6 років тому +2

      I guess u should buy a cheap power supply kit than a cheap power supply or make your own if a good power supply is under your budget than you should buy one

    • @muhammadsaboor3608
      @muhammadsaboor3608 6 років тому +2

      Shahid Nazir Are you from Pakistan bro?

    • @shahidnazir9747
      @shahidnazir9747 6 років тому +1

      no I am from Kashmir

    • @shahidnazir9747
      @shahidnazir9747 6 років тому +1

      no I am from srinagar

    • @shahidnazir9747
      @shahidnazir9747 6 років тому

      Muhammad saboor no iam from kashmir

  • @DZ_Technovation
    @DZ_Technovation Рік тому +5

    Please give us a PCB card

  • @wouldbabyhitlerkillyou4217
    @wouldbabyhitlerkillyou4217 5 років тому +1

    I was into audio for 5 years or so, but I only know a little about electronics (so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong). Anyways the quality isn't necessarily bad, it's just lacking frequency range.... Considering you added/applied your own filters over the raw output of the microphone, try raising the low-pass filter (to around 20khz), and/or increase the slope a bit at the cutoff(s), and I bet that mic will sound twice as good. Also make sure you're recording at 96khz sample rate to be safe or a minimum of 44.1khz. As someone else pointed out the consumer mic has a built-in soundcard/adc and those certainly vary in sound-quality.

  • @UltimateMaking
    @UltimateMaking 6 років тому

    yeah maybe there are high quality electrets which allow higher qualities ?
    As always, amazing video !!

  • @sagelioneldsouza8230
    @sagelioneldsouza8230 4 роки тому +5

    3:27 searches....

  • @albertox0404
    @albertox0404 6 років тому +8

    Nice video, but Why you do not use your own diy soldering station for soldering the electronic components?

  • @BradsHacks
    @BradsHacks 4 роки тому

    I would have liked to see a deeper dive into why the studio mic sounds better from an electrical engineering standpoint. Thanks for the video

  • @UrFavSoundTech
    @UrFavSoundTech 6 років тому

    You should do the test again but with tones. And see where the strengths and weaknesses of each mic. Some poeple use specific microphones not because they produce the sound in the same way but they add character to it.

  • @barbasbandas6665
    @barbasbandas6665 6 років тому +3

    Great video. Diy or buy quadcopter : D

  • @stevenjohn7770
    @stevenjohn7770 6 років тому +5

    How about a Diy or Buy Episode on bright 18650 powered flashlights with an Output of 350-1000 Lumens?

    • @someguy3054
      @someguy3054 6 років тому

      Makersteve YT possibly buy as making a flashlight that powerful could pose challenges

    • @stevenjohn7770
      @stevenjohn7770 6 років тому

      Some Guy Not really. These Led-Chips are very common nowadays having a light output of roughly 100 Lumens per Watt. To build such a Flahlight, you really just need a boost converter with constant current feature, which he already build, and a charging/protection board for multiple cells in series. These are also not really expensive to get. Apart from that, there is basically just a housing + heatsink + swich needed.

  • @TononiaWorld
    @TononiaWorld 4 роки тому

    The issue with the voice quality is no tone shape network and I think it would be best to have two stages of amplification (one after the ton shaper network) that way the gain on each stage is less, but the overall gain is greater, I also believe that first referencing the microphone frequency curve and adjusting the tone shaper circuit, filter network and gain stages to compensate would deliver a much better sound quality (and not add much in terms of component.) If you wire both stages in an inverting configuration you can get a couple of resistors less in your design (for the microphone power, and bias) and tweak the negative feedback to reduce hizz (at high volume) on the output.

  • @ELECTROMAN_MX
    @ELECTROMAN_MX 6 років тому

    I will make your design in SMD and to add an anti pop filter, for my videos. Thank you man, Greetings from Mexico!

  • @yvonnemerita388
    @yvonnemerita388 6 років тому +9

    how about building your own MP3 player?

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  6 років тому +7

      I put it on my to do list

    • @zuryan
      @zuryan 6 років тому

      you can get a battery powered MP3 player for 1€ off ebay. it would be an interesting project though

    • @jonetech5324
      @jonetech5324 6 років тому

      GreatScott! You could add a touch GUI

    • @Mrengineer1
      @Mrengineer1 6 років тому +2

      GreatScott! Your Work Is Awsome I like Your Voice....

    • @Isolierter_Hazim
      @Isolierter_Hazim 6 років тому

      I am about to ask the same question....

  • @juanchaves1224
    @juanchaves1224 6 років тому +129

    Buy or DIY a baby?

  • @10100rsn
    @10100rsn 5 років тому

    The reason your voice sounds like its gone through a high-pass filter when using that small capsule is because it literally doesn't catch those lower frequencies well at all. You can find those larger capsules available for purchase but sometimes you really have to search for them. Visit the micbuilders yahoo group for sources, lots of other information there. Also, the INA217 is lower noise, higher gain and needs fewer parts.

  • @michalnemecek3575
    @michalnemecek3575 6 років тому

    Audacity has more uses than just testing DIY mics. My mom used to record youtube music before I told her about UA-cam MP3 downloader websites and I recently digitized a cassette tape using it, the line in on my PC and a cassette tape player/recorder.

  • @mathix420
    @mathix420 6 років тому +23

    Diy or buy a drone

    • @byteofwood
      @byteofwood 6 років тому

      Buy

    • @mpcrazyscience7097
      @mpcrazyscience7097 6 років тому +4

      diy

    • @ShaunHusain
      @ShaunHusain 6 років тому +2

      Absolutely diy... Buy a cheap one to learn then build a 250 because you will be rebuilding it at some point. DJI and the like are a huge rip off.

    • @Erowens98
      @Erowens98 6 років тому

      Diy for sure. Diy is the way they've always been done (pretty much the entire rc aircraft industry has been diy for decades). The models that have become mainstream have become mainstream due to marketing and ease of entry, but are not superior to their diy counterparts. Anyone comfortable with diy should diy. On a side note, they also make an excellent father-son project, i remember building my first diy rc helicopter with my father 13 years ago and honestly, it was one of my best experiences with him. Just enough challenge to make you think, but not enough to be frustrating.

    • @someguy3054
      @someguy3054 6 років тому

      Shaun Husain so youre telling me that a well known brand such as DJI is a scam? Please elaborate as if memory serves you cant get a motion controlled drone that works without paying much of a premium. Would like to hear your thoughts on that

  • @andrejlacko1870
    @andrejlacko1870 6 років тому +4

    can you make next video DIY or Buy with remote control car ?

    • @melihspots7939
      @melihspots7939 6 років тому

      Andrej Lacko probably Best to buy one you Can modify. If you see This. Serch for tamiya or HPI or kyosho. Then you Can continue

  • @lazyh-online4839
    @lazyh-online4839 6 років тому

    I can't remember what the company was, but you can buy the high quality capacitor mic element and hook it into the same circuit as the electret capsule, you'll just need a jfet since most of those larger diameter microphones don't have one built in like the little electret.

  • @kenya_3364
    @kenya_3364 2 роки тому

    Thank u so much man! Cuz of u I made a mic preamp and it almost costs 1$ and it sounds good enough for normal use 🙂

  • @lucasc5622
    @lucasc5622 6 років тому +3

    DIY or buy crippling depression

  • @devvandrapratama
    @devvandrapratama 6 років тому +5

    I’ve notice he’s a Lefty....

  • @hopkinskong
    @hopkinskong 6 років тому +1

    Grab a MEMS digital microphone like MP45DT02, they performed quite well. Nowadays they use these in mobile phones, but not electret mic.

  • @umutozsoy6812
    @umutozsoy6812 5 років тому +2

    Summary of the great scott : builds complete projects out scrap, knows a lot about electronics, has quiet a lot of experience but doesnt replace a broken usb port.

  • @shraiwi
    @shraiwi 6 років тому +8

    7:31
    After a mere 30 minutes of -soldering- burning you fingers off

    • @malandpigs
      @malandpigs 6 років тому

      lol i sotter metal in school sooo...

  • @SammysHP
    @SammysHP 6 років тому +6

    DIY or Buy: beard

  • @fakedketchup5029
    @fakedketchup5029 3 роки тому +1

    you could have pushed it much further with filtering out noise and enhancing the quality by using more sophisticated amp OC or better microphone module. So my answer is DIY if you know what u are doing and do it perfectly

  • @brettito
    @brettito 6 років тому

    Huge fan of your diagrams and penmanship.

  • @kdgdirk
    @kdgdirk 6 років тому +20

    jump to 2:18 to skip the ad

    • @UntrackedEndorphins
      @UntrackedEndorphins 6 років тому +10

      rude

    • @areg7182
      @areg7182 6 років тому

      you're disgusting

    • @byteofwood
      @byteofwood 6 років тому +5

      Come on dude, he needs to get his money somehow... He puts these ads in so he doesn't have to monetize his videos.

    • @GRBtutorials
      @GRBtutorials 6 років тому +3

      But he's going to get paid regardless of how many people watch the ad since the advertiser doesn't know how many of the viewers have watched it (unlike UA-cam system, which knows if you're using an adblocker). An interesting trick is to use the arrow keys to skip or go back 5 seconds of video.

    • @kdgdirk
      @kdgdirk 6 років тому

      erm, why is that?

  • @AliYassinToma
    @AliYassinToma 3 роки тому +1

    i watched this 3 years ago on release ... got bored so im watching again

  • @kevinofstras
    @kevinofstras 6 років тому

    I have an idea for the "DIY or BUY" it's very simple, it's relays connected by wifi or 433mhz often I see blooming in DIY stores. For example relays for heating or lights, sometimes I find it exorbitant to simply switch on and off the heating via a mobile APP. Because in principle it's cheap it only takes a small ESP8266 and a relay and other small components. I have the impression that consumer home automation brands are inflating prices because of compatibility with their product suite. Thank you for your videos "DIY or BUY" I find them very interesting and pragmatic.

  • @karmicmessenger
    @karmicmessenger 3 роки тому

    I think the big difference was simply due to the area of the microphone membranes. Obviously you can't get the same low frequency response from such a small membrane. A bigger pickup area is the solution, either with a bigger pickup or a few electrets wired together. This is a good video, it got my imagination flowing; thank you.