Creating a Walkie-Talkie with generic 433MHz RF Modules?!

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  • Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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    In this project I will show you how to use generic 433MHz RF modules from Ebay in order to create a functional Walkie-Talkie. That means we will compare different RF Modules, learn a bit about a class d amplifier and finally build the Walkie-Talkie. It can be powered by a normal powerbank for around 130 hours and features a range of around 15m. Let's get started!
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  • @KingJellyfishII
    @KingJellyfishII 4 роки тому +589

    The "and I will see you next time" has been slowly getting more and more enthusiastic over the years... Lol

    • @markusfpv1349
      @markusfpv1349 4 роки тому +55

      Eventyally he is going to explode

    • @KingJellyfishII
      @KingJellyfishII 4 роки тому +16

      @@markusfpv1349 let's hope that's a long time away

    • @tanmay______
      @tanmay______ 4 роки тому +14

      Rusty Mustard It is... a common way to say goodbye

    • @TmartFan
      @TmartFan 4 роки тому +2

      @@rustymustard7798 Occams razor my dude

    • @cucumber1389
      @cucumber1389 4 роки тому +2

      i wilL SEE _YOU_ *_ALL_* *_N̸͍͕̍͐́̎̒͑E̶̖͕͎̝̣̻̯͇̦̠̩̯͓̼͇̿͌͌̄͆X̵̛̰̘͉̳̻͓͌̇͗͋͝Ṱ̷͚͈̂̄̄͌̇̈͋̅̓̔̍̓͌̂͘ ̷̛̖̌̉̾̌͗͌̀͆̍̐̌̕T̵̤̫͓̯̔̒̾̒̈́̀̓̉̾̚̕I̶̢̧̗̹̜͓͉̯͙͐͂́̿̂͠M̶͈͎͈̱͔͈̬͎͋͒͛͒̑̉̈̚͠͠͠È̶̠̳̾̄͌̒̋̏̿̉̕̕_*

  • @Asu01
    @Asu01 4 роки тому +426

    Greatscott!: _"as you can hear, it still sounds acceptable"_ 8:17
    The speaker: *demonic sounds*

    • @not-pyroman
      @not-pyroman 4 роки тому +25

      @FQD2N never knew a MOSFET could post a comment

    • @Asu01
      @Asu01 4 роки тому +11

      Not the first one I've seen, @@not-pyroman. If you're been around for a while, you'll recognize a user with IRFZ44 username. That guy used to be popular in some videos. Don't see it anymore though, wondering what happened.

    • @joshtr4645
      @joshtr4645 4 роки тому +19

      @@Asu01 too much current, he blew up

    • @not-pyroman
      @not-pyroman 4 роки тому +4

      @@Asu01 i think I've seen that one once or twice
      Edit: ice to I've. Fucking autocorrect

    • @alexwolfeboy
      @alexwolfeboy 4 роки тому +1

      Bluey!

  • @ElectroBOOM
    @ElectroBOOM 4 роки тому +125

    Question, the module was able to send audio range analog signals. Why not directly send analog through? modulating the analog to digital would require a much larger bandwidth.

    • @johnrubensaragi4125
      @johnrubensaragi4125 4 роки тому +25

      Because it can't. 3:04

    • @cardenassolisrodrigo2601
      @cardenassolisrodrigo2601 4 роки тому +13

      It would be nice if he tries to do this again but all analog, using a FM radio receiver and transmitter.

    • @creepergamer2911
      @creepergamer2911 4 роки тому +5

      hi electroboom

    • @cooldude2074
      @cooldude2074 4 роки тому +5

      Hey electroboom, big fan!

    • @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc
      @GeorgeGeorge-xj2bc 4 роки тому +1

      If transmitter works with high and low threshold levels trying to send any analog signal this will be distorted to squarewave.

  • @عبداللهصدقه-و3ك
    @عبداللهصدقه-و3ك 4 роки тому +194

    What i know that when you want to transmit an analog signal via a digtal transmmiter the first step is sampling the analog signal , and there is a condition to consider which is the sampling frequency must be as twice as the maximum frequency of analog signal , therefore if you picked a sampling frequency then you must make sure that the maximum frequency in the analog signal is half the sampling frequency, otherwise every frequency which higher than half the sampling frequency will be picked as noise.
    Sorry for long comment.

    • @CrazyNerdInventor
      @CrazyNerdInventor 4 роки тому +12

      I absolutely agree.

    • @SauvikRoy
      @SauvikRoy 4 роки тому +30

      Nyquist frequency!

    • @rodrigovenegas4538
      @rodrigovenegas4538 4 роки тому +25

      When the frequency of the signal is higher than half of sampling frequency it not generate noise, its aliasing wich is worst. And nyquist criteria of double of max frequency of the signal is just valid theoricaly for infinite signals. If you want good audio quality it just need to be at least 10 times.

    • @Geekswebsite
      @Geekswebsite 4 роки тому +11

      Yes i agree, it named the Shannon-Hartley theorem for whom wants to elaborate.

    • @LutzSchafer
      @LutzSchafer 4 роки тому +8

      Absolutely agreed. But for crying out loud this noisy approach as good as it may work for a D power amp seems pretty useless in this application. Wouldn't it be orders of magnitude easier and better to use good old FM. .. (in an analogue way of course)

  • @Joeyhelmond0492
    @Joeyhelmond0492 4 роки тому +66

    Honestly, even though he's from Germany, his English sounds better then most of the people in Holland (like me😁). It's clear, I can understand it, and he talks slow!! Great Job Scott!!! Keep up the good work!

    • @KingJellyfishII
      @KingJellyfishII 4 роки тому +5

      I've noticed something, most people that don't have English as their first language speak it better than quite a lot of native speakers that I know (including myself)

    • @joshtr4645
      @joshtr4645 4 роки тому +4

      I am intermediate english student, i dont understand native english speakers, because they talk to fast, but i clearly understand great scott

    • @emretalha1763
      @emretalha1763 4 роки тому +4

      I'm not English nor German but i still can understand him while he speaks English or German. He can speak both fluently and clear

    • @bofeng2700
      @bofeng2700 4 роки тому

      @@KingJellyfishII I come from China,My English listening is too bad,in order to know the content of video,I must see English subtitles,Unfortunately there are only German subtitle options,I wonder why app provides Germany options when I know that host is speaking English. I go on listening and find the pronunciation of host like German.😄

    • @JeppeBeier
      @JeppeBeier 4 роки тому +3

      @@bofeng2700 The host is German, so he likely provided German subtitles for his local viewers.

  • @TheWTFDubstep
    @TheWTFDubstep 4 роки тому +67

    I'm still in hope of seeing you making one RF transmitter from scratch.

  • @sriharshakavuri98
    @sriharshakavuri98 4 роки тому +34

    That moment when Great Scott posts and you get to it 30 seconds later...

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 4 роки тому +77

    8:34 I take it that you're not hearing the painful high pitched sound during the mike test... Oww, my ears

  • @Stefan0719
    @Stefan0719 4 роки тому +4

    I have read a bit through the comments. One person already suggested to use these moduls in their "analouge" mode. The transmitter is simmilar to one of these TTL oscillators. You simply can bridge the data pin to "+" from your supply, and series modulate it with a PNP or NPN Transistor. This will give you AM with FM. The FM Part is just narrowband FM, but on a selective receiver you´d need to use slope detection, but these receivers usually are "Super regenerative receiver(s)"
    I´m mainly talking about the green circuit boards (the ones completely on the left side in your frequency test, that just could take 5KHz).
    On the receiver there´s a two stage super regenerative receiver. One transistor works as RF preamplifier, to get the RF noise away from the antenna, whilst the other one is the actual receiver. On your modules, at least the RF preamp transistor is mounted - the modules I have, the receiver misses the transistor (probably were lower price due to this fact got them as a gift)
    On the receiver board, the output from the super regenerative receiver goes to a lowpass filter hence it´s quench frequency (thats why you only can transmitt up to like 5KHz). The 8 pin SMD Chip - LM 358 - only forms the sine wave into a square wave.
    You can "tap off" the signal from the receiver before the LM358 chip, and so you can make complete analouge audio transmission. All you need is a modulator + microphone amplifier on the transmitter side... and a small audio amplifier on the receiver side with "tapped in" audio pickup before the LM358.
    Practically
    - To get the transmitter to transmitt AM -
    Bridge "Data" to "+ UB" and take a standard NPN Transistor. Use double supply voltage, and tap the transistor between
    "-" of your transmitt module and ground. Now use a 1M Potentiometer, and a Multimeter. Connect the 1M Potentiometer between base and collector, and have it adjusted to "1M" at the start. Now decrease it´s value,
    untill you reach about the half supply voltage on the module.
    Via a 100nF capacitor and let´s say a 3,3k resistor (random values) you can now put Audio on base of the transmitter.
    The audio would already be received from the receiver, but it would be extremly distorted because the LM358 converts the sine wave signal from the regenerative receiver to a square wave signal.
    Take an amplified speaker, hook one pin up to ground from the receiver module (while the transmitter is on, try with a low volume level on your phone with my suggested values) and use a let´s say 10k + 10...100nF (whatever is in the parts box) between "audio in" from your speaker and the connectors around the LM358 - one connection will be "audio out" from the receiver. If you find it, you will hear your music over the speaker.
    Later if you want to use that "concept" you might need to add a lowpass filter between your receiver module and an audio amplifier Chip, because some remains from the receiver´s quench frequency might be left, and block / inteffer with the audio chip (very quiet, could start motor boating if connected to the same battery).
    For the transmitter you don´t need to use the full voltage. If you lower the voltage the "AM percentage" will increase, whilst the FM percentage will decrease, but "good" AM will cost a lot of TX power (like going down from 10 to 0,5mW)
    Anyhow, since the receiver is a wideband super regenerative type, it won´t care about "that bit" narrowband FM, but
    if you´d receive this on a more "proper" receiver, that has AM option, you´d need to use slope detection for it.
    I´m talking about the green modules ... some other modules might use a more "fancy" "Superhet" receiver.
    Regarding the 1M potentiometer... maybe a 250k might also work... I don´t know how these transmitters react
    to overvoltage. TTL modules "can take some" but I´m sure it´s not good for them.
    I´d appreciate it if you´d give this a try, but since my comment is just one of many... I´m not really expecting much

  • @RealDjMarkuZ
    @RealDjMarkuZ 4 роки тому +1

    Best electronics & mad science channel ever!!!!! Keep coming amazing stuff Great Scott 👏👏👏

  • @varunsreedharan5347
    @varunsreedharan5347 4 роки тому +1

    I'm very impressed JLCpcb is still operating now. I bought 4 boards yesterday.

  • @lpt2606
    @lpt2606 4 роки тому +146

    Not great, not terrible
    that's what they said in Chernobyl when the radiation was 3.6 röntgen ( bud was 15000)

    • @kvlpnd
      @kvlpnd 4 роки тому +6

      It was "Not great, not terrible" if I recall correctly.

    • @lpt2606
      @lpt2606 4 роки тому +3

      @@kvlpnd
      you're right

    • @TheHellis
      @TheHellis 4 роки тому +4

      But then again, Chernobyl is a "tourist attraction". I have doubts this 433 walkie talkie will be a tourist attraction.

  • @ReevansElectro
    @ReevansElectro 4 роки тому +1

    I created a 15m walkie-talkie with my bare hands! I made a cup with my hands and held them to my mouth. For receiving, I held my cupped hands to my ears. I think that I could get more range too if I raised my voice.

  • @divingquokka
    @divingquokka 4 роки тому +40

    "You can hear that the music transmission was also successful" 7:45 I only hear beeping.

    • @dmkays
      @dmkays 4 роки тому

      Nobody will ever accuse him of being an audiophile. I can get at least 800 feet of very high fidelity audio by modulating my bench signal generator.

    • @petrosdimitriospilichos9195
      @petrosdimitriospilichos9195 4 роки тому

      Most electronics engineers consider waveforms as music ^^

  • @telabela007
    @telabela007 3 роки тому

    I was remembering my master's time by watching your video. Anyway, Gr8 video and I am going to recommend your channel to our students. 🙏🙏

  • @bagassetiawan1478
    @bagassetiawan1478 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks, Scott. It's inspired me to making wireless subwoofer. I don't need very high bandwidth rf module because my sub only need maximum 500hz.

  • @Ares-vh9qz
    @Ares-vh9qz 7 місяців тому

    Hearing you breathing after everything you say is blowing up my mind 😂😂.
    I love your videos

  • @giovannip3415
    @giovannip3415 4 роки тому +1

    Hey...finally "let's get started" has his face out of hidden. Great Scott!!! Your projects are awesome!!

  • @yobalzal7266
    @yobalzal7266 4 роки тому +3

    Have been following your channel since long & have learned a lot.
    Always heard your voice but really pleased to see your face, great work man keep it up :)

  • @BudiSantoso-hl4bf
    @BudiSantoso-hl4bf 4 роки тому

    From what I know, you should use the high frequncy TX signal as a carrier. Insert audio into it.
    In the RX section, you must separate the carrier signal from the audio, then amplify the audio.
    Just like FM TX or AM TX. On FM TX, you affect the carrier frequency range. In AM TX you affect the carrier amplitude.
    I learned a lot from this channel

  • @waqarhaq5280
    @waqarhaq5280 4 роки тому

    Hey your arduino walkie talkie worked . I tried andreas spiess solution, placed a potentiometer instead of resistor. After few tries, it worked like a charm, covered distance of probably 100 meters

  • @youssefaly97
    @youssefaly97 4 роки тому

    While studying electronics and communications engineering, they teach us that we only use a bandwidth of 4 Khz when it comes to voice/speech transmission so technically the first tx rx pair is actually decent enough for use in a walkie talkie! That 4 Khz even includes the guard band which results in a useable spectrum from 300 to 3400 Hz.

  • @hvanmegen
    @hvanmegen 3 роки тому

    GreatScott, Andreas "The Guy With The Swiss Accent" Spiess and Marco Reps are high in the top 10 of my favorite youtubers :)

  • @tiagopiazza3648
    @tiagopiazza3648 4 роки тому

    Man, I do not recall seing your face before. Is like a new age for Scott channel. Good to you, brother. Keep the excel videos.

  • @kienanvella
    @kienanvella 4 роки тому +1

    if you want a decent range on those, you can get it by building yourself a dipole antenna to replace the monopole. I've even built a crude yagi antenna for use with modules like this, just with one guide element and one reflector element. there's some calculators around that can make it easier for people not so comfortable with antenna design to build their own antennas.
    fortunately, these are relatively low frequencies, so you can be a bit sloppy with your antenna construction and still get decent results.

  • @wunderwaffeyt4077
    @wunderwaffeyt4077 4 роки тому

    Hello to the union of people who are watching this late at night. 11:37 pm to be specific.
    *YES*, I'm that fascinated and amazed at his videos that I want to watch them as soon as possible

  • @fifaham
    @fifaham 4 роки тому +3

    Few recommendations for improvements: try to use decoupling cap between pin 2 of the comp and pin 6 of the 555. Also you may use voltage divider and adjustable POT resistor to vary the level of the output from audio circuit - shift up and down. This may produce better PWM that improve on audio fidelity. Also you may use very weak pull down resistor on the Data in of the XMTR, if it is floating from the XMTR board module. If the XMTR board allows powering from higher voltage then you may try it for longer range, tinkering with the antenna and its impedance also may boost the communication range. Apparently the XMTR-RCVR pair modules are not designed to deal with those kinds of so called PWM wave forms, thus a conditioning circuits maybe needed as I described above. In Radio circuits, it is vital to insure impedance matching on input / output ports for both XMTR and RCVR circuits, not only on RF circuit (here you can not do anything about it, unless you tinker on the module board) but also the audio circuit.

  • @astron7654
    @astron7654 Рік тому

    you are really amazing i love how you explain each detail
    i'm student and this video helped me alot with my project 🤩🤩

  • @bill392
    @bill392 4 роки тому

    Not trying to be critical here, just suggestions. Enjoyable video and well shot/narrated. I appreciate the effort. I've been using RF modules exactly like this for at least 22 years now. I've always used them to send serial data (9600 BAUD max is typical due to bandwidth limits) and most people have used them this way and that's why there's so many microcontroller and Arduino applications presented everywhere. Using them to send PWM modulated "audio" is an out-of-the-box idea. However, RC model radios have been sending PWM modulated analog values exactly this way for over 45 years. It works great for RC because the sampling rate of the analog channels is maybe 20 to 60 Hz, not several kHz. The RC radio can convey many analog channels on one RF carrier by sending several pulses as a string, like a short burst of pulses, followed by a pause to be used as a sync. At the receiver, a simple counter is used to separate the pulses and then each pulse is "stretched" to the standard "1ms to 2ms" range and then finally sent to a specific servo.
    I think the reason the receiver output sounds so bad is that it's not really demodulating the PWM signal but is instead attempting to filter out the frequency of it. Remember that the audio info is encoded just in the dutycycle, not the amplitude or frequency and a simple bandpass filter cannot separate those. Think about it this way, if you filter the PWM frequency out completely, nothing would be left and you'd get no audio. Conversely, filtering it less will retain some of the PWM signal and certainly you will hear it. The trick then is to properly demodulate it. Maybe pass the PWM signal through a diode, then resistor, and into a charge tank consisting of a cap with parallel resistor referenced to ground. This converts dutycycle to analog. It is basically a peak detector, like a cheap AM demodulator. Adding the resistors provides a means to control the cap charge and discharge rates, thus recovering the audio. Then pass the output of that through a lowpass filter to clean out the last of the PWM ripple and then finally into a power amp. The rule of thumb is that the PWM freq should be at least 10x the max audio freq that you want to pass, but the bandwidth limits of the system might force it down to the theoretical minimum of 2x (re Nyquist)) but then it'll definitely have noticeable PWM hum no matter what you do if using a single stage lowpass filter. Even a well tuned multi-pole filter would have a hard time separating it completely out. Brick-wall filters are generally not so simple.
    Also, a source for audio distortion, the 555 timer waveform is non-linear, not an ideal sawtooth. There's an old chip MC34060AP that can directly convert 0V to 3V analog into a stable linear PWM signal. Sorry it's obsolete but there's likely a modern replacement within DC/DC converter category. Alternatively, using a cheap opamp and a few discrete components, build a simple triangle generator (tech term is an oscillator based on an integrator). Yet another possibility might be to send the 555 square wave output through a pair of LM334Z constant-current source ICs into a cap. I said "a pair" because I don't think they're bi-directional so I was thinking a pair of them connected in reverse-parallel might work. I'd have to try it just for fun. The general rule is that if you charge/discharge a cap using a constant current, the voltage will be linear and the triangle would be perfect. Also, using a polymer or mica cap for the timing cap makes it temperature stable so it's value doesn't drift all over the place. Ceramics are cheap but loosely spec'd and sensitive to noise and temperature. One last thing, there are many cheap solutions for connecting to standard 0.1" pitch header pins. No need to wreck them by bending them and soldering wires directly to them.
    Cheers to all and happy hobbying.

  • @allthegearnoidea6752
    @allthegearnoidea6752 2 роки тому +1

    I love this video. I didn’t know you could generate a PWM signal via a triangular wave

  • @theextremes2491
    @theextremes2491 4 роки тому

    Now that's a great episode we wanted....

  • @OliverHynds
    @OliverHynds 4 роки тому +24

    I like the new new presenting style with more talking to camera! Good video!

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  4 роки тому +8

      Well thank you

    • @lifeai1889
      @lifeai1889 4 роки тому

      @@greatscottlab but please find a way to increece the audio quality

  • @Znkank
    @Znkank 4 роки тому

    I don’t suprise anymore. I was sure about walkie talkie and you have done with it! Thanks for the video.

  • @stevetobias4890
    @stevetobias4890 4 роки тому

    I leaned that maybe it's cheaper to pull apart a cheap commercial walkie talkie and check it's configuration than it is to try and start from scratch, lol. Great effort though, keeping with the "only know if you give it a go" tradition.

  • @felixcenteno2003
    @felixcenteno2003 4 роки тому +2

    You can transmit and recive analog signal (using the first pair TX/TX boards) if you bypass the comparator on the receiver, the 8 pin chip normally is a lm328 amplifier configurate in one half amplifier and the other half like comparator, this last one is what you need to bypass to get an audio signal

  • @coltseavers5169
    @coltseavers5169 4 роки тому

    I've just builded my own automatic greenhouse based on the Arduino with Solarpower, Sensors, Waterpump and vetilation a few years ago.
    The only missing Thing in my Setup is the LoRa-Wan that i now had to have 😉.
    Great Scott 👍😁

  • @long-timelistenerfirst-t-us2yy
    @long-timelistenerfirst-t-us2yy 4 роки тому

    *my big takeaway from this project is that **_take me home_** is on your playlist :-P*

  • @madpug7471
    @madpug7471 4 роки тому

    Apparently as your intro starts my mind subconsciously starts the JLC PCB promotion 🤣🤣🤣

  • @akhurash
    @akhurash 4 роки тому +9

    To get rid of the 5kHz frequency, perhaps a band pass filter can be used... You can cascade the LPF with the 41kHz cutoff freq with a high pass filter > 10kHz or so

    • @skyebedard2148
      @skyebedard2148 4 роки тому

      I was thinking that a band-stop filter could probably do the job. At the very least, you could use a series LC circuit to short out the 5KHz signal, though you could probably do better with a Butterworth or Chebyshev filter.

  • @davegsm82
    @davegsm82 4 роки тому

    @GreatScott! - instead of using a trim-pot variable resistor for your audio input, make a low pass R-C filter from the output of the 555 to ground, which will give you a DC level, at 50% of the triangle wave amplitude, use this voltage and connect to the lower end of a trim pot, connect the wiper to the op-amp input and connect the 'top' of the trim pot (which is now your volume control) to the audio source via a DC blocking capacitor. This arrangement will 'auto-level' so you always have 50% above and below.
    Also, on your output amp (TC4423 I think?) add a DC blocking cap to the speaker, those gate drive IC's don't like static DC current and you'll overheat the top of the totem-pole.

  • @shamsmm
    @shamsmm 4 роки тому +1

    It turned out it's not only me who gets green micro USB expansion modules and solder it directly using the pin headers to my circuit !

  • @navigator171
    @navigator171 4 роки тому +1

    We are experimenting and learning, so, the video was fine.

  • @keithking1985
    @keithking1985 4 роки тому

    i remember the 1st video, you wanted it for riding your motorbikes with your friends.. i know you will come back to this one until you crack it because of why you want them.. cant wait to see you crack it.. : )

  • @bornach
    @bornach 4 роки тому

    The 433MHz band is used by key fobs, remote controlled socket relays, and wireless tire pressure guages. Prolonged use of this walkie-talkie might jam those other devices. You should warn people that if they build this, only use it for four very short infrequent communications.

  • @westonbaccus231
    @westonbaccus231 3 роки тому

    your videos are always outstanding Great Scott

  • @DheerajKumar-dk747
    @DheerajKumar-dk747 4 роки тому +1

    Pl. make videos on how to charge Lead Acid Rechargeable Battery (4.1 ~ 4.7v DC)!
    I am awaiting for Portable Bluetooth Speaker to be made by renowned and our favourite GreatScott on their next iteration!

  • @ubza1234
    @ubza1234 4 роки тому

    i loved the old intro format too, but i love the new one too! you look good on camera

  • @FlameSoulis
    @FlameSoulis 4 роки тому +3

    Here's something else to consider:
    The reason you may want to bring an Arduino back into the mix is to use it to create a form of buffer. The idea is that if you buffer the signal, even for say 100 transmissions, you can use that to avoid choppiness. Of course, the transmission would need to be slightly higher than the buffer size so it can catch up, which in turn in a poor man method, results in some dropout of single packets, but that would be my basic, noncomplicated approach.

  • @defavltt
    @defavltt 4 роки тому

    thes transmitter modules actually can transmit audio, the data pin on the receiver has a comparator. therefore for digital signals, on the 7th pin on the chip if i remember right, theres the analog signal not passed through a comparator. just attach a wire to the pin.

  • @lathagalappatth7258
    @lathagalappatth7258 4 роки тому

    I like the way you doing the show ☺️

  • @FelipeLopez-ky3jp
    @FelipeLopez-ky3jp 2 роки тому

    Amazing, this has more complex build than a Baofeng radio

  • @Abdulrehman-cj3iy
    @Abdulrehman-cj3iy 4 роки тому

    i will be very thankful to you for helping me on my humble request

  • @lorilianemacoycruz5383
    @lorilianemacoycruz5383 4 роки тому +1

    Try inserting a low pass filter in your audio path to limit the bandwidth of your audio signal to say slightly below the maximum allowable input frequency of your RF module,

  • @ddavity
    @ddavity 4 роки тому

    I like how much enthusiasm you put on your videos, keep up the good work! :)

  • @orenshumtsoe362
    @orenshumtsoe362 2 роки тому

    Greatscott is always great, I'm blinded by your schematic, will be great to receive it by mail.

  • @deeptayade683
    @deeptayade683 4 роки тому

    You are great you inspires people .

  • @BlazeOGlory
    @BlazeOGlory 4 роки тому

    This was very thought provoking

  • @deweywsu
    @deweywsu 4 роки тому

    The range of human hearing is often said to be 20-20K Hz, but in reality, for most people over 25, the top end of that spectrum is cut off significantly. It's usually around 14 Khz for most middle-aged people. Not that you'd want to use it...a traditional analog phone line's bandwidth channel upper limit is around 3 Khz, and that's about as high quality as most people expect to hear from a walkie talkie too, so really any of those modules, in theory, could work for this experiment.

  • @itsjandro9792
    @itsjandro9792 4 роки тому

    I was like why does this dude sound so familiar...then i realized it was GreatScott lol

  • @ELBANANERILLO15
    @ELBANANERILLO15 4 роки тому

    One of my favorite channels .... wow, great work, allways surprise me

  • @bakupcpu
    @bakupcpu 4 роки тому

    Got to say that's pretty impressive for such cheap device! Thanks for sharing the idea! Stay safe!

  • @blackhole7818
    @blackhole7818 2 роки тому

    This is so great oh my god. I was literally just thinking of what to do with these. I bought quite a few of them thinking wireless would be usefull.

  • @shadowthenightfury2572
    @shadowthenightfury2572 4 роки тому +56

    7:16
    You killed my ears :'(

    • @iiTsGiga
      @iiTsGiga 4 роки тому +6

      8:35 killed mine :D

  • @aneesanees6233
    @aneesanees6233 4 роки тому +1

    Sir I don't understand what you explain but it looks great thanks

  • @ПётрКаменев-щ5к
    @ПётрКаменев-щ5к 4 роки тому

    Good enough. It sounds much better than the first revision).
    I think it should improve the sound quality:
    Add anti aliasing filter (1 or 2 order lowpass filter) and choose sample rate respectively. Audio signal spectrum has a frequencies from 0Hz to 20kHz (appr.). So when you try to convert audio signal from analog form to PWM form with a sample rate lower than 40 kHz the aliasing appears and creates additional noises.
    Thank you for your videos.

    • @ПётрКаменев-щ5к
      @ПётрКаменев-щ5к 4 роки тому

      Btw, you can try a 3 kHz low pass filter and a 6 kHz (or more) sample rate to achieve a telephone quality. It's enough for communication like walkie-talkie.

  • @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE
    @acestudioscouk-Ace-G0ACE 4 роки тому

    A good basis to start from. Thanks for this.

  • @oniruddhoalam2039
    @oniruddhoalam2039 4 роки тому

    3:26 A small correction. It is a PWM signal, not a digital signal. Although there are only two voltage values, it is not a digital signal. The reason is that the duty cycle varies with the audio signal amplitude. An actual digital signal is created by measuring the voltage values at regular intervals and storing them as binary numbers in a process known as sampling.

  • @dandyroth
    @dandyroth 4 роки тому

    Great video Scott! Great to see your troubleshooting process even if results not amazing

  • @tanmoyhaldar138
    @tanmoyhaldar138 4 роки тому

    Well the FS1000A can transmitt upto 200 metres while using 12 volt supply.
    Big fan from India🇮🇳

  • @rachadchouman9245
    @rachadchouman9245 4 роки тому

    Your videos are very enjoyable. Thank you.

  • @Lookas_
    @Lookas_ 4 роки тому +3

    Finally! 'been waiting for this video for so long. I am always to lazy, to order the stuff i develop, so i firstly watch other people doing it :_D
    Great videos by the way!

  • @tobortine
    @tobortine 4 роки тому

    Really good work and fun watching.

  • @kendrickxy1774
    @kendrickxy1774 3 роки тому

    5:12
    One thing to know is that if you just want to create a Walkie-Talkie (to exchange words) then you can restrict the frequency between 300 an 3400 Hz as it's the common frequency used for VOIP calls.
    For example, the highest frequency a (trained) human can sing is around 1400Hz. So with 7kHz, it looks very fine (unless you want to transmit high-quality audio).

  • @ajbulan2029
    @ajbulan2029 4 роки тому

    Damn dis dude is smart dawg ngl
    Gues who subbed

  • @ChrisRid
    @ChrisRid 4 роки тому

    Great video. Seeing the failings and shortcomings prompts discussion and encourages people to get involved. I don't know how to fix the circuit, my first step would be to straighten the antennas, but other than that I wouldn't know.

  • @Delali
    @Delali 4 роки тому

    Great job, there's always room for improvement and i love that you're always trying to better your designs. keep up the good work.

  • @Masirah1
    @Masirah1 4 роки тому

    1.5-3.8khz voice bandwidth is enough. Higher bandwidth called HD audio. Nice circuit. You can get very long range by changing the Antennas to half wave dipole.

  • @fredbloggs4829
    @fredbloggs4829 3 роки тому

    I really like the raw, back to basics of this project. Here are my thoughts. Effectively you have a digital pipe with errors and you want to transmit voice in the best way possible. This topic has been covered to death of course for mobile phones since the 80's and the answer is ... voice codecs. What would make a really interesting project, is not to add one of the old voice codec chips, but to find a SW version and run it on an Arduino.

  • @PauloDoutel
    @PauloDoutel 4 роки тому

    You are FANTASTIC....
    Best regards from Portugal

  • @cezarcatalin1406
    @cezarcatalin1406 4 роки тому +3

    Now encrypt the signal

  • @filipeterra8981
    @filipeterra8981 4 роки тому

    those helical antennas are highly directional... you could get a better range pointing one against the other or using an omnidirectional antenna. those chinese antennas are not guaranteed to resonate at the required frequency too. using a simple wire and trimming it until best results is a good approach if you don't have the required equipment to measure S11 (reflection)

  • @rokolczuk
    @rokolczuk 4 роки тому

    hey Scott! Been following you for a while and I have to say that seeing you in the videos definitely make them more interesting! Keep it up!

  • @brzydka_i_bestia
    @brzydka_i_bestia 4 роки тому

    This is supposed to be a walkie-talkie not a music transreceiver, you can easily cut off any audio above 3-5kHz because human speech doesn't go that high, they do this in telephones and VoIP software. You could also make use of active filtration (with op-amps) to help get rid of that carrier. But the range is a bit low anyway. I'd suggest looking into something like HC-12 modules to try to extend the range, they work on serial so you will need an arduino but it will let you apply data correction and maybe some light compression (or you can use STM32 for more processing power if ATMega328p won't cut it)

  • @kaushalsuvarna1284
    @kaushalsuvarna1284 4 роки тому

    Stay creative 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
    And I'll see youuuuuu next timeeeeee😎

  • @sriharshakavuri98
    @sriharshakavuri98 4 роки тому +5

    Great channel mate! Keep the great work up... Also hope you are safe during this nightmarish pandemic.

    • @joshtr4645
      @joshtr4645 4 роки тому

      They survived two world wars, do you think this "made in china" low quality flu will make any harm to them?

    • @sriharshakavuri98
      @sriharshakavuri98 4 роки тому

      @@joshtr4645 LOL

  • @notmyname5449
    @notmyname5449 4 роки тому

    I have the receiver that got the best frequency results in the video. It is really surprising how good it is. I can use it through three walls over 10 meters and still get 95% of the data.

  • @bashaaksema94
    @bashaaksema94 4 роки тому +12

    1:16 it looks like he is dead on the inside XD
    Has the walki talki finally got to you or do you feel sad for the wasted PCB's
    ;)

  • @davcap
    @davcap 4 роки тому

    Please further develop this project it is really interesting.

  • @leozendo3500
    @leozendo3500 4 роки тому +2

    Either go full analog or full digital. Try out RpiTx, it works amazingly well. You just need to figure out a way to attach a microphone to the raspberry pi zero and you can transmit on 0-900Mhz.

  • @arnislacis9064
    @arnislacis9064 4 роки тому

    You should use FM transmitter and reciver with carrier frequency 30MHz.

  • @rhr-p7w
    @rhr-p7w 4 роки тому

    I read on some book, some years ago, that you should also generate the carrier frequency on the receiver, and somehow you inject that tone 180° shifted into the audio signal, so you get rid of the carrier noise. I havr no idea, my RF experience is zero.

  • @caffeinatedinsanity2324
    @caffeinatedinsanity2324 4 роки тому

    Using Black Pills with nrf24 modules would probably be overkill but at least you'd get a nice I2S interface to make the job easier. Or an esp32 works but you'd probably draw more current and it'd be a waste.

  • @IvegaEletrônica
    @IvegaEletrônica 4 роки тому +3

    Genial, muito bom

  • @liammchugh9439
    @liammchugh9439 4 роки тому

    Love your videos dude. Keep it up!

  • @EwingTaiwan
    @EwingTaiwan 4 роки тому

    8:17 OOOUUUUCH!!! What is that SUPER HIGH PITCH and HIGH VOLUME NOISE!

  • @GyanenderSirohi
    @GyanenderSirohi 4 роки тому

    I ran some tests on NRf24L01 with different range, power mode and data rate but the data I transmitted was not completely recieved even when the transmitter and receiver were 1 feet apart.
    I also used my bluetooth speaker in NRf24L01 walkie talkie, the result was that it worked perfectly some times but it wouldn't work at all and created a tik tik sound.

  • @wilsonaguilar306
    @wilsonaguilar306 2 роки тому

    Great video nice tests!

  • @mattle3
    @mattle3 4 роки тому +15

    This time I got the notification

    • @greatscottlab
      @greatscottlab  4 роки тому +5

      Perfect :-)

    • @Slushee
      @Slushee 4 роки тому +1

      @@greatscottlab He may be one of the algorithm's samples, I have all notifications on and I didn't get it :/
      Great video anyways!

  • @josedominguez2021
    @josedominguez2021 4 роки тому

    I love your videos Man !!!!
    See u next time !!!!

  • @deankq4adj125
    @deankq4adj125 4 роки тому

    Great video, lot's of useful information for us "beginners." Keep up the good work!!