Why You Should NEVER Use The Marksman And Mage Emblem!

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  • @embutido8723
    @embutido8723 11 місяців тому +201

    Eudora with the assassin emblem is hell for the enemies, especially with the right talents. Yeah she's still squishy but one combo can kill the enemies squishy heroes in a blink of an eye.

    • @onion69420
      @onion69420 11 місяців тому +7

      And leave with a fast af speed lol

    • @iloveboba1234
      @iloveboba1234 11 місяців тому +3

      I use her and I just use 2nd and 1st to kill a full hp enemy if the enemies are squishy I would recommend using her

    • @shintaroiwata1778
      @shintaroiwata1778 11 місяців тому +5

      ​@@onion69420what do u mean she can't leave fast she doesn't have any escape skills. It's flicker in, kill a mm or squishy jg, then 50/50 u make it out alive

    • @onion69420
      @onion69420 11 місяців тому +4

      @@shintaroiwata1778 killing spree can grant her movement speed

    • @straypaper
      @straypaper 11 місяців тому +2

      I hate the bush sitter Eudoras. Not even a tank roamer can rotate unscathed. Which is crippling because roamers rotate to foil ganks. Not much gank you can foil with half HP

  • @Queen_Alisha_Plays
    @Queen_Alisha_Plays 11 місяців тому +82

    Hello everyone , I'm the one using Alice in the clip, thank you MLG for featuring my gameplay. ☺️ 1:22

  • @gluttonyarchbishop
    @gluttonyarchbishop 11 місяців тому +109

    11:53 Each point of fixed Physical Penetration Lesley acquires is converted into 0.5% Critical Damage, but her base Critical Damage is reduced to 140%.

  • @Demoninst
    @Demoninst 11 місяців тому +53

    Tip: Killing Spree for Karina is just nothing..
    edit: *rupture, weapon master, impure rage* try it..

    • @laffy134
      @laffy134 11 місяців тому +4

      The only thing good about it is the extra movement speed tbh

    • @luffytaro7789
      @luffytaro7789 11 місяців тому

      THISS

    • @slimslimee4411
      @slimslimee4411 11 місяців тому +1

      Wdym? She needs the quick regen shes a reaping hero

    • @josef-1209
      @josef-1209 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@slimslimee4411does she really need the regen if all the enemies are dead in a second?

    • @purevanilla6827
      @purevanilla6827 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@josef-1209It's good if you're going to attack multiple enemies for sustain but i do get your point lol

  • @demi6916
    @demi6916 11 місяців тому +63

    If marksman emblem had better stats like removing the useless af lifesteal and replace it with Crit chance and base adaptive attack (like 10-20) maybe it would be good.
    If mage emblem had 10% CD reduction like support emblem and a little more penetration maybe it would also be good.
    There could also be a problem that assassin emblem is too good in general...

    • @valkeditz31
      @valkeditz31 11 місяців тому +1

      The lifesteal is good in the early game for heroes like Hanabi

    • @Sky_Sora1
      @Sky_Sora1 11 місяців тому

      Lifesteal are good for mm bruh

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb 11 місяців тому +2

      You all think of MM emblem’s lifesteal, not knowing that your Hanabi with quantum charge will just buy DHS and WON anyway.
      You cannot lifesteal when you die. And you cannot lifesteal when you get stunned. The 10% lifesteal of WON has phy dmg immunity as its better active component, rather than the 5% lifesteal of MM emblem with no defensive attributes.
      Let me tell you assassin emblem is 10x better than marksman emblem in terms of raw damage, with or without malefic roar.

    • @WiSe0014
      @WiSe0014 11 місяців тому

      ​@@valkeditz31doesnt hanabi have a built in life steal.

    • @valkeditz31
      @valkeditz31 11 місяців тому +3

      @@WiSe0014 Bruh… that was Hanabi before she was revamped 💀
      She doesn’t have built in lifesteal anymore because she got revamped

  • @yzrider7774
    @yzrider7774 9 місяців тому +6

    I pretty much agree with the mage emblem however there's a little bit of a mistake in the Marksman emblem category that even I made when I first looked at it. He states that one of the stats in the Marksman emblem are 5 FLAT adaptive attack. However if you look closely it's actually 5% which is actually the MOST adaptive attack that ANY of the emblems give you. Now does this make it viable or not viable that's up to you guys to decide (I think it does for at least a few especially if ur hero needs a lot of attack damage and attack speed cuz yes as he states the attack speed boots also give u 15% but if u have both they STACK) but I just thought I would point this out that it does have the most adaptive attack, plus the 15% attack speed and 5% life steal. Hope this helps.

  • @Badget007
    @Badget007 10 місяців тому +5

    I like how Fwyd really said in his emblem tier list to never use Basic Common Emblem yet it is regarded one of the most versatile in the META especially the mana hungyr heroes

    • @yzrider7774
      @yzrider7774 9 місяців тому +1

      I mean IDK I think it's OK at best but honestly there are usually better choices. Also what most don't realize is the hybrid Regen some people mistaking for like lifesteal or spell vamp type healing but 1) it's not 15% it's just 15 which is VERY low for HP (it's barley even ok for mana TBH but not horrible I guess) and 2) it's Regen so it is not given for doing any type of basic attack or ability damage and also u only get the Regen when ur NOT in combat so I mean the Regen is low as it is and the fact u don't even get any of it when attacking or taking damage makes it pretty useless IMO. IDK I just think there are better options.

  • @doge_slaya
    @doge_slaya 11 місяців тому +30

    Common emblem better than Support emblem for Cecilion. Hybrid Regen is just too good. No need to buy Demon Boots at early game. Get 2 of your core items first before buying Boots. It helps you get stacks way faster. I managed to reach 200 stacks on Cecilion in the 7mins mark. The Hybrid Regen can also maybe affect Cecilion's regen in his Ult but I'm not too sure.

    • @wanjagger6012
      @wanjagger6012 11 місяців тому

      For main cecil , 5min for COD is a must

    • @straypaper
      @straypaper 11 місяців тому +1

      Common emblem on the vampire heroes are wild. Alice with the attack and regen is too good while she also wants to be thicc in HP

    • @ShAhEzKy
      @ShAhEzKy 11 місяців тому +1

      Actually common emblem is really weak on ceci because your stacks adds to ur mana but u are not getting extra mana regen from common emblem so its a lost at late game and ceci is a late game hero so...

    • @straypaper
      @straypaper 11 місяців тому

      @@ShAhEzKy you get mana regen from common

    • @davidjrsebastian2238
      @davidjrsebastian2238 11 місяців тому

      1 week ago, I told my teams mage user to better use common emblem. but didn't listen

  • @kohinoorkhamcha
    @kohinoorkhamcha 11 місяців тому +41

    We should be thank full for MLG for making so many guides for us and so consistently.
    Before when we had to learn hero mechanism specifically it was way harder.
    So as a returning player, i am very thankful for your service.

  • @jameso2782
    @jameso2782 11 місяців тому +9

    If you use starlium scythe on a mage hero, the mage emblem fits well because of the added magic damage (ex. zhask, lunox)

    • @Tom-rd8dd
      @Tom-rd8dd 2 місяці тому +1

      scythe on lunox?????

  • @cuppa_moon
    @cuppa_moon 11 місяців тому +23

    i already use common emblem for cecillion and let me tell you, as a support main, my jaw dropped when you mentioned the support emblem

    • @muthurafahmed9752
      @muthurafahmed9752 11 місяців тому +1

      Well I use Yu Zhong in support emblem

    • @topheemacaban261
      @topheemacaban261 11 місяців тому +1

      Common emblem for ceci for that early game mana sustain you can spam his 1st skill even early stages

    • @arckanumsavage2822
      @arckanumsavage2822 11 місяців тому +1

      The same for Lunox. Usually Lunox has 0 mana if she farms to lvl 4 without going to the base. Then just 1 combo of her ult requires more than a half of her mana. Common emblem let's her spam her skills infinitely from lvl 1

    • @slimslimee4411
      @slimslimee4411 11 місяців тому

      ​@@muthurafahmed9752it works, it works

  • @voltressmoss1329
    @voltressmoss1329 11 місяців тому +1

    Good guide very useful since I've been running marksman emblem for a while

  • @mafimok
    @mafimok 11 місяців тому +5

    9:15 SMH. MISINFORMATION.
    Marksman Emblem provides +5% (PERCEEEEEEENT) adaptive attack, meaning it scale for LATE GAME like most MARKSMAN do.
    That lifesteal and aspd also scales for late game since the better your items are, the better those stats become, like most MARKSMAN do.

    • @tunkamil7180
      @tunkamil7180 11 місяців тому +1

      I scroll through comment first to check bout this. Apparently a lot of people didn’t know how to read and differentiate the number.

    • @omnirico
      @omnirico 11 місяців тому

      Early game win snowballs so much that sometimes it doesn't come to late game. Getting that early game advantage is more important.

  • @dingpeng2317
    @dingpeng2317 11 місяців тому

    Thank u for the information!!! It is really helpful

  • @mdshihabislam6721
    @mdshihabislam6721 9 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @rosiapng1112
    @rosiapng1112 11 місяців тому

    Yes what you said about mm emblem is true, i as claude user found basic emblem is really really usefull and even made him stronger. Thanks for the sharing bro you always the best

  • @rutan4000
    @rutan4000 11 місяців тому +8

    Interesting. I used to think Lesley would still benefit from MM emblem as penetration does her no good. But after actually doing the bot test myself i came to realise the actual damage difference. I shall show the numbers below based on the following build: Endless battle, Berserker's fury, BoD x 3, max level on damage bot
    MM emblem w/o items:
    passive hit: 486
    regular shot: 249
    first skill shot: 669
    2nd skill + regular shot: 910
    Total: 2314
    MM emblem with full build:
    passive hit: 1894
    regular shot: 922
    first skill shot: 2749
    2nd skill + regular shot: 2426
    Total: 7991
    Assassin emblem w/o items:
    passive hit: 511
    regular shot: 249
    first skill shot: 439
    2nd skill + regular shot: 748
    Total: 1947
    Assassin emblem with full build:
    passive hit: 1908
    regular shot: 889
    first skill shot: 2875
    2nd skill + regular shot: 3185
    Total: 8857

    • @Exachad
      @Exachad 11 місяців тому

      Obviously, the Assassin emblem will be better for late game and only counting the full burst damage when the passive is active after the 1st and 2nd skill since the 16 penetration gets converted into 8% additional crit damage. But, the MM emblem provides attack speed that can help in lane clearing in the early game as well as +5% adaptive attack, which is more useful than the 8% additional crit damage in the early game when Lesley doesn't have a 100% crit chance yet. The last stat is subjective (MM emblem gives 5% Lifesteal and Assassin emblem gives 3% Movement Speed). Overall, 8/10 people in the Top 10 Global use the MM emblem. 2/10 (including the no. 1 himself) use Assassin. They're both viable depending on playstyle. The top global always queues with his Roam Angela and Hyper Julian, which means he can be babysitted by in the early game in exchange for late game power.
      Also, 3 BoD is not a realistic build anymore. Only 1 person in the Top 10 Global right now builds even 2 BoD (no. 7 as of now). The rest all build 1 Bod. Nobody builds 3. You're trading away the passive of 2 items for the extra BoD. Windtalker (burst magic damage every 2 seconds) and Sea Halberd (+8% damage on enemies with higher HP) can sometimes do more or similar damage than an extra BoD depending on the enemy composition and they give a lot of extra stats. Even when they deal slightly less damage, they're still way cheaper. You're rarely going to have enough money to buy 3 BoD. For your last BoD, you'll be stuck with a useless legion sword until you can get 2100 gold to upgrade it. Alternatively, WoN and Rose Gold are meta for her as well since Lesley is already extremely strong, so she can build a bit defensively. Most people in the Top 10 build at least one of the two.

    • @rutan4000
      @rutan4000 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Exachad Yea the chances of getting 3 BoD are quite slim, hence the 3rd BoD is usually swapped out for something depending on the game situation. But I'm not that pro to even think about top global build. I'm stuck in epic with so many headless chickens that build doesn't really matter much. Even building tank Lesley can't save me from 4 headless chickens. Just thought it would be interesting to know the difference in damage between MM and Assassin emblem.

    • @animejuggernaut2553
      @animejuggernaut2553 10 місяців тому

      ​@@rutan4000If you work on yourself, you can carry brother! I'm a Lesley one trick, the highest I've climbed was mythic 26 stars!

  • @LoRGaming623
    @LoRGaming623 11 місяців тому +6

    Fun fact: The adaptive attack from Marksman Emblem is not a flat number rather it's percentage number, but still not recommended tho.

    • @ShAhEzKy
      @ShAhEzKy 11 місяців тому

      Yeah but not for lesley since she build 3 BoD so...

    • @tapgames3465
      @tapgames3465 11 місяців тому

      ​@@ShAhEzKyreally depends since you swap out the 3rd bof for items like won or shield sword

    • @ShAhEzKy
      @ShAhEzKy 11 місяців тому

      @@tapgames3465 personally though i go for 3rd BoD since i can outplay heros like: melisa, ling, lance, eudora...
      I only use them when facing heros like:
      Haya and nata which is rare so most of the time i go for 3 BoD ( i have 80% wr so it works )

  • @Reubenture
    @Reubenture 10 місяців тому +5

    the healing effect on support emblem doesn't heal you but it increases the heal when you heal your teammates like rafaela heal and estes heal on his allies

  • @user-lb9vo8he5s
    @user-lb9vo8he5s 10 місяців тому +1

    @ML Guide The Marksmen Emblem is the only one that gives %5 adaptive attack... All other emblems are flat rated emblems. I didn't notice that at first either. I still do think some work better with ass emblem though.

  • @iloveboba1234
    @iloveboba1234 11 місяців тому +14

    The Mage emblem should have a 10% Mana Regen and Replace the useless Penetration to Movement speed since Magic damage heroes already do more damage in early game

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb 11 місяців тому +1

      Mage emblem must have an overhaul.
      I’d say CDR, mana (or hybrid) regen, and movement speed.
      Same goes for MM emblem that should have an overhaul.

    • @slimslimee4411
      @slimslimee4411 11 місяців тому +1

      Ey keep the magic power. Just swap out the penetration for mana regen. If you want movement spd just use agility

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb 11 місяців тому

      @@slimslimee4411 keeping the magic power will still make the mage emblem as niche as it is now.

    • @slimslimee4411
      @slimslimee4411 11 місяців тому

      @@myopiamlbb wont that just make the common emblem's existence useless cuz it does everything but better. At least have it be unique like idk..... bump it up to 40 magic dmg?

    • @iloveboba1234
      @iloveboba1234 11 місяців тому

      @@slimslimee4411Mhmmm yeah I think they should increase the cd reduction

  • @jussyncro3647
    @jussyncro3647 9 місяців тому

    As a eudora main i love this so much thank you ML ❤❤

  • @mokyodai
    @mokyodai 11 місяців тому +2

    Basic emblem for roamers is very useful especially for Diggie, Rafaela and Faramis. I don’t need to build Enchanted Talisman for mana, and focus on more defense or utility items.

  • @SunsetsandThingpuiSenhang
    @SunsetsandThingpuiSenhang 9 місяців тому

    People should see this video more, it has to go viral, so many don't onow what "Adaptive" means in rhia game

  • @Dillusionz
    @Dillusionz 11 місяців тому

    Wow. very interesting. what your advice for Joy?

  • @lilshelly8885
    @lilshelly8885 11 місяців тому

    Can u do a video about priority of upgrade new emblems for newbies? Sorry, my English is very bad

  • @IsoyaYasuji
    @IsoyaYasuji 11 місяців тому +8

    FINALLY.. i cant tell u how many times i cringed when i still see some use either of these 2 emblems and realize they dont do enough dmg or give better mana management or sustain compared to the other emblems. Hope this’ll be much more clearer to them :3

    • @elainnatividad104
      @elainnatividad104 11 місяців тому

      But Marksman Emblem is still good on specific heroes because of its 5% extra attack scaling, which is great for the late game especially when paired with weapon master. Its like the Weapon Master before the Emblem Revamp.

    • @IsoyaYasuji
      @IsoyaYasuji 11 місяців тому

      @@elainnatividad104even so. 5% is ABYSMAL. On top of that, most marksmens usually just build either crit or trinity build which dont really give a lot of phy atk making it even worst.
      If you do simple maths, for example you have 500 base physical attack, you get the mm emblem for its 5% adaptive atk. 500 x 5% will only give you 25 phy atk. THATS VERY little and almost no difference in dmg, besides u cant even reach 500 phy atk unless u build multiple BoDs but that’ll only work if the game goes on long enough and enemies are epical glory players.
      Ofc I won’t forget that u can combine it WM, but even so that’ll only give 10% phy atk in total, which is still LOWER than its older emblem system version. So in the end its almost an abysmal attribute unless they give it more numbers. Assassin’s early game phy penetration beats in anyway when it comes to “dealing more dmg”

    • @IsoyaYasuji
      @IsoyaYasuji 11 місяців тому +1

      @@elainnatividad104 yes, only “specific mms” but they need any little advantage for the early game rather than late game, cuz once its in late game, almost anyone can either lose or win, having a better early game will give u a better advantage over the enemies to scale in the late game then just simply stomp them and end the game quick. And still I can definitely tell u that flat/fixed penetration beats overall high amounts of phy atk/magic power in dmg.

    • @10thDoctorWhoovez
      @10thDoctorWhoovez 11 місяців тому

      ​@@IsoyaYasujithere's still some people who insists that MM Emblem is better for Lesley even though she's arguably the worst MM to equip that Emblem....

    • @honorstealer
      @honorstealer 11 місяців тому

      ​@@10thDoctorWhoovezlmao

  • @Ometecuhtli13thGate
    @Ometecuhtli13thGate 7 місяців тому

    Still trying to max out all my emblems anyway.
    But fair point.

  • @b3nd0_ver86
    @b3nd0_ver86 11 місяців тому +3

    Dps mages: Mage or assassin emblem (it can vary cuz some mages have high ap scaling) but assassin is generally better in most cases.
    Utility Mages: Support emblem. Gives 10% cdr with movement speed. Basically gives u free cdr boots so u can build another boot (like magic pen or def) and the movement speed let’s u rotate faster.

    • @forxass4582
      @forxass4582 9 місяців тому

      for change' would assassin emblem work well?

  • @Rayzo_Rblx
    @Rayzo_Rblx 11 місяців тому

    In my experience of using eudora she was actually scary using an assasin emblem because it deals damage much higher. But I don't use lethal iginition I prefer using impure rage (depending on the situation ofc). Impure rage is good when paired with lightning truncheon because the damage outputs are separated and when paried with dire hit you can 1 hit an enemy moskov using her 2nd skill because her 4 different damage outputs. If someone doesn't understand what damage outputs its basically how the total damage from a skill is distributed. For example I I'm using a assasin emblem with impure rage, arcane boots paired with dire hit, COD and LT. She will have 4 damage outputs 1 from the impure rage, 1 from the dire hit, 1 from the LT and the last is from the 2nd skill (Only using 2nd for reference in the early game. Ofc eudora kryptonite is athena sheild but athena shield can only counter single burst damage (consiting of only 1 damage output in a skill) but athena sheild can effectively counter splash burst damage (my own defenition of having multiple damage outputs in a single skill) that why eudora can 1 hit a marksman. Not to mention the buff she reccive which can spam her skills faster and the Blood wings adjustment that can improve her movement speed as heck.

  • @reinhardtayo7450
    @reinhardtayo7450 11 місяців тому

    Just enjoying fredrinn . Thanks man

  • @ChandrakantGhule99
    @ChandrakantGhule99 11 місяців тому

    Hi Nico, can you make a video on how to deal with getting ganked 3 on 1 in solo Q

  • @robvsmine4019
    @robvsmine4019 11 місяців тому

    Hey nico congrats on 200K subs!

  • @-storm_shadow-5824
    @-storm_shadow-5824 11 місяців тому

    perfect commentary :D , entertaining videos :P

  • @simplybananas
    @simplybananas 11 місяців тому +1

    U should make a Lunox guide with these new emblems.

  • @erictroybangcong203
    @erictroybangcong203 11 місяців тому +18

    Lesley doesn't need malefic roar because she has true damage which ignores physical defense

    • @randomduder6692
      @randomduder6692 11 місяців тому

      But for the Ultimate, it is handy for finishing off enemies

    • @ayanafzal7629
      @ayanafzal7629 11 місяців тому

      Doesnt true damage ignore magic defence?

    • @namanhnguyen9799
      @namanhnguyen9799 11 місяців тому

      ​@@ayanafzal7629yes it ignores magic defense

    • @DevIlItion
      @DevIlItion 11 місяців тому

      ​@@ayanafzal7629yeah it does, he just specified the physical defense because Lesley isn't magic

    • @arckanumsavage2822
      @arckanumsavage2822 11 місяців тому

      High lvl players build Malefic roar for Lesley. So you shouldn't do it.

  • @ASHKOR769
    @ASHKOR769 11 місяців тому +3

    Reason pen and Movement is the best and spell bam regen too

  • @timothyzadeng6133
    @timothyzadeng6133 11 місяців тому +2

    I dont know about other players but basic emblem is soo good with some tank that use mana and have mana issue

  • @raffyhaji
    @raffyhaji 11 місяців тому +19

    8:59 The marksman emblem doesn't only have a raw +5 adaptive attack
    It was +5 PERCENTAGE adaptive attack
    Please correct it ML Guide ❤

    • @straypaper
      @straypaper 11 місяців тому

      Oh yeah you're right. That means it should break even if you can get 400 attack at minimum (5% of 400 is 20) Shouldn't be too hard if you stack at least 4 items of your attack stat plus your natural attack growth.

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb 11 місяців тому

      This 5% adaptive attack increase still relies on your base physical attack (or base magic power) and your damage items. Practically useless if you ask me.
      The adaptive attack increase is reduced by defense. Rather invest buying malefic roar or divine glaive with assassin emblem’s penetration than relying on MM emblem’s adaptive attack increase.
      MM emblem is basically an equivalent of “swift boots + power potion combined”.
      If you wanna increase phy atk or mag pwr, just buy items.

    • @straypaper
      @straypaper 11 місяців тому

      @@myopiamlbb most MM not named Lesley or Karrie don't have the early damage to make penetration worth it.

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb 11 місяців тому +1

      @@straypaper Most MM?
      Bea?
      Granger?
      Brody?
      Clint?
      Do these MM need attack speed? Since MM emblem’s attack speed is basically equivalent to swift boots?

    • @straypaper
      @straypaper 11 місяців тому

      @@myopiamlbb Clint still needs attack speed, and he's not doing anything with early penetration anyway

  • @sanae99.9.9
    @sanae99.9.9 11 місяців тому +17

    With the nerf of Divine Glaive, Assassin emblem is now much better than mage emblem because it give so much raw magic pen and movement speed.

    • @F3Y_030
      @F3Y_030 11 місяців тому

      Divine Glaive nerf was reverted, instead the magic power got buffed while keeping the same penet%.
      The only nerfed pen% Items is Malefic Roar.

    • @jaspervincent8585
      @jaspervincent8585 11 місяців тому

      Lol, it provides 40% magic pen, which is damn huge, might as well forget building genius wand

  • @Reachneth
    @Reachneth 11 місяців тому +2

    I like how the thumbnail remind me about the meme that include killing

  • @theaskingman
    @theaskingman 10 місяців тому

    I instinctively change emblem for Selena from mage to assasin, because i can see the damage penetration is somewhat better. And voila, my performance getting haha

  • @nmdarmybts_hope
    @nmdarmybts_hope 10 місяців тому

    damn, those excel sheets😭

  • @LimeArt09
    @LimeArt09 11 місяців тому

    Ever since they removed the movement speed from both emblem, they weren't even close to decent anymore

  • @asaurusrex9165
    @asaurusrex9165 11 місяців тому

    I saw a video of a tank Layla where they use tank emblem with tenacity and firmness on I tried it with Lesley and holy it was fun used physical boots instead of atk speed since most enemies were physical attackers anyways

  • @natalievillaluz
    @natalievillaluz 11 місяців тому

    Hey nico cant you suggest an attack items or attack build that a mages could use. I recently used odette with trinity build/items as marksman due to removing/lack of dash during her ult in her recent vamp. Thanks a lot.

    • @chaotic3158
      @chaotic3158 11 місяців тому

      They're bringing her dash back in the next update. I saw it on Kazuki's latest video. Odette mains will be happy again haha

  • @sableyecore9474
    @sableyecore9474 11 місяців тому +1

    Mage emblem is effective in Karina because her passive relies on magic power

  • @gilbertalconera5635
    @gilbertalconera5635 11 місяців тому

    i still use mage emblem for cyclops to get an early 10% CD reduction.

  • @minerxen
    @minerxen 11 місяців тому +1

    As an ex-top player, I can say MM and normal mage emblem last time was almost never used by me as I am a martis player who has a martis mage build.

    • @minerxen
      @minerxen 11 місяців тому

      And ironically I hardly use fighter emblem for him

  • @Argus_Superstorm_777
    @Argus_Superstorm_777 11 місяців тому +3

    After watching this, I think I should save more Magic Dusts for upgrade Fighter and Support Emblem.
    Btw, since these two emblems are so weak, what should the official do to improve?

    • @10thDoctorWhoovez
      @10thDoctorWhoovez 11 місяців тому +1

      For Mage Emblem, it should be:
      30 > 45 Magic Power
      8 > 10 Magic PEN
      5% > 10% CD Reduction
      Make CD Reduction the main feature of Mage Emblem instead of Magic Power.
      MM Emblem:
      15% Atk Speed > 30% Atk Speed
      5% > 15% Adaptive Attack
      5% > 10% Lifesteal

  • @omalmigampegu3625
    @omalmigampegu3625 11 місяців тому

    Can you please make a tutorial video on fredrin please 🔊🔊

  • @user-fm5eh1fi5z
    @user-fm5eh1fi5z 9 місяців тому

    I use the support emblem on Luo Yi and she's just unkillable with extra shield and movement speed

  • @deenmlb
    @deenmlb 11 місяців тому

    Moonton should put your recommended setups in the game.

  • @veiasylum
    @veiasylum 11 місяців тому +2

    I agree with this video. Other emblems give better stats than these two.

  • @normal2410
    @normal2410 11 місяців тому

    As a semi new player I have a question what do you think is the best emblem for edith

  • @deepakbirua7331
    @deepakbirua7331 11 місяців тому

    Hye MLG, pls tell me best assassin to solo carry noobs and Can u make detailed video on that perticular hero

  • @muhamadprislakamil1484
    @muhamadprislakamil1484 11 місяців тому

    So why is flat pen is better than pure phys atk or magic power again?

  • @RANDOM_GUY4444
    @RANDOM_GUY4444 11 місяців тому +2

    It's so funny that the emblems are dead but there talents are top tier in the meta like lethal ignition and weapon master

  • @shirosoma1896
    @shirosoma1896 11 місяців тому

    What do you think about Cecilion with Common emblem

  • @kerimtamur9839
    @kerimtamur9839 11 місяців тому

    Der bruder hat das spiel in den a.. gef... sehr stark nico. Grüße aus dem niederrhein

  • @Theo-wl8ml
    @Theo-wl8ml 11 місяців тому +1

    What about wanwan though?
    Am I also supposed to play her with a different emblem now?

  • @nonamechannel9235
    @nonamechannel9235 11 місяців тому

    Marksman Emblems for me is still useable, But I Agree with the Mage emblems I've never use it ever since because of lack damage in Late game.

  • @wimpyy7144
    @wimpyy7144 4 місяці тому

    How about lylia? Do we not use mage emblem on her or hust use basic emblem?

  • @foorya4556
    @foorya4556 11 місяців тому

    I still prefer Assasin emblem on Cecil, building LT first + assn embl gives a huge boost to cecil's damage early game that sets up a domination (if your team is not headless chickens :D). ps global 20 cecil.

  • @E.S.A.M
    @E.S.A.M 11 місяців тому

    I have a bad feeling monton is probably going to nerf the common emblem just like what happened to the jungle emblem long long ago.

  • @flop-era_cunty
    @flop-era_cunty 11 місяців тому

    Not me with my level 60 magic emblem

  • @FUZAKEN.
    @FUZAKEN. 11 місяців тому +10

    I do sure love using assassin emblem on Lesley 🗿☕

    • @whatwecalllife7034
      @whatwecalllife7034 11 місяців тому

      No 🧢

    • @timon5196
      @timon5196 11 місяців тому

      Does that mean basic emblem is good for Fanny too

    • @FUZAKEN.
      @FUZAKEN. 11 місяців тому

      @@timon5196 nah just use assassin emblem

    • @10thDoctorWhoovez
      @10thDoctorWhoovez 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@timon5196hybrid regen doesn't include energy regen.

    • @justagamer3016
      @justagamer3016 11 місяців тому

      Bro MM emb is better for Lesley with %5 (not just 5 additive attack)

  • @ahmeds2278
    @ahmeds2278 10 місяців тому

    Malifec roar on Lesley ?!!!! How ?!!!

  • @himejoshier
    @himejoshier 11 місяців тому +1

    what emblem should I use for wanwan

  • @youveseenmeeverywhere
    @youveseenmeeverywhere 11 місяців тому +1

    I use assaassin emblem for Valir because Valir's burn doesn't scale with magic power but rather scales with enemy's % max HP so penetration is benefitial for him combine it with glowing wand which also scales with enemy's % current HP including every ticks of his passive can trigger the scorch from glowing wand plus Divine Glaive if the enemy tank is stacking Magic Defense, so he's not just only effective against tanks but he is also very aggressive early game, he can snowball and he doesn't need any expensive items such as Blood Wings and Holy Crystal since you scale early game from high base damage and using flat penetration (although Glowing Wand is a bit more expensive than Holy Crystal but Lightning Truncheon is the substitute for Glowing Wand (LT for one shot type of mage like Eudora/ if there's no enemy tank use LT instead of GW)), but I use Mage Emblem if I use a Mage with higher % magic power scaling, Mages that uses Blood Wings and Holy Crystal, Mages that scales late game (Combine it with Weapon Master that gives additional 5% of your total magic power from Emblems and Items), with shields, such as Oddette and if you want to clear waves better as magic power is good against minions over penetration, and i also use this for mages that spams long range abilities like gord and Aurora since it has CDR and and they both benefit from raw magic power since they have higher scaling, and also, I kind of wish that they keep the mana (not mana regen) on Basic Common Emblem as I stack mana if I want to increase the damage of LT passive since it scales with % max mana combine it with Clock of Destiny, LT itself has max mana, and Fleeting TIme and it's up to you what to build the rest of the thre remaining slots (and optional if you want to add defensive item such as Dominance Ice as it also has mana) and since Cecilion has skills that scales with % max mana, this build could benefit him, having 5-10% and 1.2% total mana is a lot for beefiest Mana like a beefiest HP and if you ran out of mana easily in the laning phase the Life Drain can restore the mana since it scales with 1.5% max mana plus with 3% HP for survivability of enemy mage poke.
    and also for Marksmen Emblem, I think it's still useful as it gives innate attackspeed, attackspeed is the Marksmen's waveclear power (only for Marksmen who relies on basic attacks to deal damage), as much as Mage's waveclear power lies on raw magic power, especially if you have longer basic attack range like Layla you want to be spamming a lot if you're long range and if you have medium range you need more movement speed instead, I guess the two emblems that are considered useless are also have in common which has waveclear power, but when it comes Claude since he doesn't rely on crit but instead he relies on On Hit Effects, then you can use other emblems if you want survivability you can use basic emblem for its bonus HP like stated in this video, but you can also use Assassin Emblem since Claude is shortish range he can benefit from the movement speed from this emblem and also the On Hit Effect can benefit from the flat penetration since DHS scales with the enemy's % current HP like the Glowing Wand.

    • @DougMarv
      @DougMarv 11 місяців тому +1

      I dare people to read all of it lol
      Really dude?

    • @quay-we7fn
      @quay-we7fn 11 місяців тому +2

      Ain't reading all that 😂

    • @youveseenmeeverywhere
      @youveseenmeeverywhere 11 місяців тому +1

      reading this is challenging than climbing rank

    • @ferbiously
      @ferbiously 11 місяців тому +2

      For valir I recommend you try the common emblem on him, and switch the boots to tough boots or something you get infi mana and can spam 1st skill without lacking any mana

    • @youveseenmeeverywhere
      @youveseenmeeverywhere 10 місяців тому

      @@ferbiously the mana boots is already suffice for mana issues, but common basic emblem is still viable tho

  • @leonlinn7910
    @leonlinn7910 11 місяців тому

    As a player of Mage Bane, I'm really happy with using the support emblem on him

  • @xammerezekielmarco4406
    @xammerezekielmarco4406 11 місяців тому +1

    So wanwan doesn't benefits on mm emblem anymore than what is best emblem for her?

  • @austintgod9621
    @austintgod9621 11 місяців тому

    The basic common emblem surprisingly works very well with utility mages.
    Much better dn the mage emblem.

  • @akumayakiri
    @akumayakiri 11 місяців тому

    Please check the attributes when you use assasin emblem as a mage. When i check mine, it boosted my physical penetration to 15 n my magic penetration did not increase

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb 4 місяці тому

      Is that why you use mage emblem? 😂😂😂

  • @marcchristianchan-chan3093
    @marcchristianchan-chan3093 11 місяців тому

    5:43 why is there a Blade of the Heptaseas, Malefic Roar,and Hunter Strike on Eudora's build in the gameplay?

  • @Leftmarc
    @Leftmarc 11 місяців тому

    I do hope he updates the attack and magic items

  • @xpaul9469
    @xpaul9469 11 місяців тому

    I wish u could make a movie about ml. Ur vids are și intresting that when i first Hear a joke or Something intresting i watch how long îs the video. Gg big brosky

  • @sohamkarmakar1035
    @sohamkarmakar1035 9 місяців тому

    u didnt say natan lack attack speed

  • @axgbb
    @axgbb 11 місяців тому

    Honestly, I don't really use the mage emblem that much but for mm emblem, there are a few heroes that I use it with

  • @christylawrence29
    @christylawrence29 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm literally addicted to common emblem on every hero that uses mana😂😂😂

    • @billm5435
      @billm5435 11 місяців тому +1

      Same. I got mocked but won and,the next game my friends used it lol

    • @omnirico
      @omnirico 11 місяців тому +1

      No more going back to base because 0 mana am i right?

  • @CoxAiau
    @CoxAiau 11 місяців тому

    What about magic assassin and fighters like amonn and julian

  • @azrielarriadi
    @azrielarriadi 11 місяців тому +1

    CMIIW but doesn't the marksman emblem give you percentage adaptive attack and not base adaptive attack which would make it scale better in the late game?

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb 4 місяці тому

      Lol it's still WEAK. Percentage adaptive attack is USELESS against physical or magic defense. You're better off with assassin emblem.

  • @usamakhalid136
    @usamakhalid136 11 місяців тому

    Ayoo i recently maxed MM emblem..my first ever max emblem nd now😶

  • @omniichaaaaan
    @omniichaaaaan 11 місяців тому

    Even if they buff the mage emblem to 50 magic power, I won't be surprised if players would still opt for Assassin emblem. A hero has to have good scaling in order to maximize the magic power given by mage emblem, so it's kind of a bit ignored. Aside from the magic power, the other stats are so lackluster that it's weird that it made it to release that way. If they're planning to make the Mage emblem sort of a utility route, they could give it some good CDR or MS or even mana regen to make it more worthwhile.
    It's ironic that the Common emblem got placed low in the tiers of some creators since it gives "meh" stats. I actually tunnel-visioned on the possibilities of the +15 hybrid regen and just ignored the other stats. Fast forward to now, Uranus is even getting a nerf in the Advanced Server because of the Common emblem and the Common emblem itself is getting some tone-down too.

  • @ixayatoxi5697
    @ixayatoxi5697 9 місяців тому

    Bro some mm need that mm emblem look at the attack speed in emblem , assassin have only speed there

  • @Ubiselfs
    @Ubiselfs 11 місяців тому

    What about Moskov what emblem is right for him? I suppose Assassin but wanted to make sure

  • @countdown_4324
    @countdown_4324 11 місяців тому +2

    You didn’t mention cyclops, he doesn’t need mage emblem. I personally prefer fighter emblem on him since it gives him much more survival against assassin with the hybrid lifesteal

    • @arckanumsavage2822
      @arckanumsavage2822 11 місяців тому +1

      I hate what's a slow sht Cyclops becomes with fighter emblem. Movement speed is top important for him

    • @Shaggybangs
      @Shaggybangs 11 місяців тому

      ​@@arckanumsavage2822try him with support emblem, it got 10% cdr and 6 movement speed (most important stats for cyc) even tho he's not gonna benefit from healing effects increase but still this emblem is a lot better than any other for him.

  • @fuhuge
    @fuhuge 11 місяців тому

    Been playing julian mainly because of my jujutsu skin but still wonder what is the best build for him as exp or jungle, personally i add crit items and atk sp items so yeah, wonder if u can give me some advice

    • @Ornyl
      @Ornyl 11 місяців тому +1

      Use assasin emblem...usually you can play him as hyper or xp...but rare cases you can play as tank and mage too.
      Use assasin emblem+genius wand then divine glaive and for boots pick either tough boots or pen.
      And 3 item for dmg is probably burn..you need much.
      His base dmg from first skill is pretty high..and btw try to a the squishies.

    • @fuhuge
      @fuhuge 11 місяців тому

      @@Ornyl great! Thanks for the advice, will try it later.

  • @RubyKnight2XXX
    @RubyKnight2XXX 11 місяців тому

    Masksman Emblem gives +5% Adaptive Attack, right?

  • @celthonysemine2870
    @celthonysemine2870 11 місяців тому

    mage elm can be used on tank
    and mm elm can be used on fighter hero now so it's not that useless actually. it's just know the hero and skill and build .👍👍it just a swap role.
    if u know what I mean.

  • @kraris777
    @kraris777 10 місяців тому

    Well assasin emblem is for burst, mage emblem for dps.

  • @mdshihabislam6721
    @mdshihabislam6721 9 місяців тому

    But Ceci might benefit more from Basic Emblem.

  • @wimpyy7144
    @wimpyy7144 4 місяці тому

    Is this still valid now at February 2024?

  • @---------______
    @---------______ 11 місяців тому

    Tip: remove lightning truncheon from his Eudora build and replace it with another bloodwings

  • @sio3940
    @sio3940 11 місяців тому

    Natan who is a marksmen that deals magic dmg

  • @JuniorFerreira1
    @JuniorFerreira1 11 місяців тому

    I use the marksman emblem on zhask 😅 plus + 25 atk speed 😂

  • @zikutan5651
    @zikutan5651 10 місяців тому

    Marksman emblem has 5% adaptive attack, not 5 base value

  • @pejhosgatsiona6137
    @pejhosgatsiona6137 11 місяців тому

    Fighter emblem on Karrie makes her regen the true damage she deals more now. Put agility, festival of blood with quantum charge and she’s really strong

    • @myopiamlbb
      @myopiamlbb 4 місяці тому

      Meh. Fuck fighter emblem on Karrie. Use common emblem instead. More true damage from TB, more true damage from EB.

  • @rgyen7797
    @rgyen7797 11 місяців тому

    Hi..
    I'm having a hard time with my emblem for Guin, some players use Mage and some use Assassin. But in the Pro Build, it recommended Fighter.. Like eh? Hayssttt 🤦‍♂️
    Maybe I could get a little help here 😁

  • @jasonbraza9517
    @jasonbraza9517 11 місяців тому

    I don't use pro builds on Minsi, I use the basic common emblem, being a skill spammer the high breed regen is a nice sustain if I use a different emblem I get force to go back to base because of no mana.😂