For the sister story, I'm going to echo others and say that OP did right: Her sister's mental condition is Priority One and _must_ be handled really quickly. OP did right by bringing her sister home ASAP, not calling the cops and pressing charges _at the moment._ (OP did say that she later called the police from home. I hope the charges stick)
I have HFA as well and id likely start screaming and trying to take a swing qt that women if she did that to me, and while i can shop on my own my family is a phone call away to come get me if i need it
As a HFA myself I am lucky to be able to function as a mostly functional adult but if screamed at by some aggressive woman my normal sweet and harmless nature flies out the window as I go hulk mode when I feel threatened.
(TL/DR at bottom) Years ago, I was attacked by a Karen. She saw my shopping cart had a loaf of fresh bread (not your typical “off the shelf” loaf. She asked where I had gotten it, so I pointed her in the direction of the bakery and where to find the same type of bread loaf as mine. Later, as I was leaving after checking out, she came up to me in the parking lot and lamented that the bakery had just run out of the fresh bread, so she wanted my loaf. I politely told her “No. I already paid for this. It’s mine.” She tried to offer me what I had paid for it, I politely declined. I offered to take double what I had paid for it, and she got really angry and started yelling at me, calling me “Selfish”, and “Greedy”. She tried to snatch the bread from my bag, and I pulled the bread away. She tried to push me down and steal the bread, but I took out my pepper spray and aimed it at her (my brother taught me how to safely use Level 3 pepper spray). She backed off, and I finished loading my car. Later, she called the police, after surreptitiously taking down my license plate (used her camera phone to photograph the license plate), and I was pulled over by the police, who claimed I had assaulted this woman and stolen her loaf of bread. I gave my side of the story and showed them the receipt for the bread. We went back to the store, and Karen was screaming at me, and demanding that the cops arrest me and give her the bread loaf. The police suggested checking the store surveillance cameras. Karen refused, claiming it wasn’t necessary. The police told her “We can’t arrest without proof.”. The store manager showed them the footage, showing Karen assaulting me and my pulling the pepper spray can and holding it up in self defense (but not using it). Karen was arrested for assaulting me, for lying to the police, for causing a public disturbance, and abuse of emergency services. Her husband had bailed her out and later she agreed to a plea bargain of a fine and community service. TL/DR: Karen wants my loaf of fresh bread, it was the last one available for sale, I refused, she tried to steal it. I draw pepper spray canister in self defense, she backs off but later calls police and lies to them. I get pulled over by police, explain my side of story, police check parking lot cameras, truth comes out, Karen is arrested.
I feel like a broken record at this point, but how the hell do people feel justified to verbally harass and lay their hands on other people or employees.
That's something will never be understood even if there was a reason why of the justification. Aside from the feeling of the customer is always right or Dominancy
Its amazing they never learnt the basic preschool/kindergarten lesson, dont touch someone without permission, always be nice to others. They should be made to go back to school
Unfortunately with the case of the autistic sister, the priority was to get the sister (who was having a shutdown) out of the store ASAP. She wouldn't have been able to handle waiting around for the police, then waiting even longer (and possibly having to give a statement then and there) before she could get home to where she feels safe and is able to decompress. I say this as someone on the spectrum. It's great you want the lady to be charged and not get off easy (and I really hope she doesn't get off easy for assaulting the poor girl), but with the case of someone with a disability like autism who is already having trouble, it's just not feasible for them to wait around for the police.
I’m a female, veteran. My husband learned the hard way to never sneak up behind me. I’m 5’4” 100lbs, he’s 6’4” 198lbs. He came up behind me and wrapped his arms around me, very stealthy. He was on the floor struggling to breathe within less than a second! Poor guy. He was just trying to be romantic. Be careful out there touching people, most don’t put up with it.
I'm not a veteran. I'm about your same build. Anyone ever snuck up behind me or tried to touch my nether regions and, at the very least, they'd get a very sharp elbow right in the midriff very very solidly. The goods aren't for sale, rent or touching. One exception was when I attended a show in a pub/bar, when I was 7 months pregnant. It showed all in the front, but not from behind. As my girlfriends and I tried to get through the crowd to our table, some guys had taken up strategic positions to "cop" some free feels. I noted one guy ahead of me was focussed on the girl moving through in front of me, and I turned a bit sideways anyway (to not lead with my stomach, protectively). We got momentarily held up in our congo line through the crush, and Handsy Guy decided to feel me up from the back. I let him. Then his hands got around to the front and ARRGGGHHH. He dropped his hands away like he'd picked up a hot poker. Still laugh about that.
Do employees really lie about being employees so much that we can't just believe a person when they say they don't work there? Like do Karen's really think these people come to work just to take off their name tags and pretend to be a customer all without their managers and fellow employees noticing? If these people used their brains just a tiny bit they'd be able to see how stupid that is.
@@TheBlkSimsQyeen that's just unacceptable. You're a better person than me bc if I was in the stall and they tried talking to me I'd probably open the stall and invite them in since they're questions are sooo important and time sensitive they can't wait 2 mins or go find someone else to help them. My ass would be fired quick as hell. I love your name btw 💚
Nice to see the fines for assault can go that high. But the question to pose to Karen is "What gives you the right to grab ANYBODY in a store?" Employee or customer it doesn't matter it's still not right.
As a person that worked (as a manager) in retail for 20 years, YES!!!! It's a thing!!! Karens have never wanted help... They've wanted an assistant to do things for them... and they expect you to drop everything to do it with a smile on your face and yes ma'am on your lips!!!! ugh!!!
The funny thing is that 100 years ago, you would shop by giving an employee a list and they would gather and package the items for you. It was pretty normal then, so if the person looks to be 100years old, maybe that’s why?
They want the personal shopper treatment without actually hiring one or going to a fancy posh shop that offers one. It's not about laziness. It is about (the illusion of) power and dominance. They are the lead singers in their own opera and everyone else is a supporting extra with sole purpose in life to make the diva look and feel good.
Last story: she went to the manager to demand "compensation" after the scene... yeah, it was a scam, but she screwed up by not picking an actual employee.
Not really messed up, no. They know full well someone isn't an employee. Because, how often have you seen the phrase "Then Karen went and got the manager"???? so why do people still insist on believing the Karens' lies? It's all a lie. It's a distraction. Maybe they have an offsider who is shop lifting. Maybe they're trying it on to get free stuff (usually always). But they ALWAYS know where the employees, the real ones, hang out. Always. And why the victims don't yell for security or a manager first, beats me.
Story 5, the lady making a scene, had JUST stolen a bunch of shit. The manager telling her to leave before they call the police is JUST what she wanted. She didn't get searched on her way out. This is a classic tactic.
The girl with the disability story hit a personal spot for me, as me and my niece both have Autism, even though I was lucky to not have ever been bullied or harassed like the poor girl was. But I so would've had her arrested on the spot if that did happen.
What gets me about all these, is in what world do these people get the idea that it is "okay" to verbally or physically assault people, customers or staff or not? Entitled and abusive people, ignorant idiots or not, they all deserve to be shut down, charged or in some cases arrested to they can maybe learn how to behave in society.
Story two: I had a store manager ask me to do the shopping for an elderly customer. She told him it was just a few items. It was a few notebook pages, every single line on both sides After I was done getting every single item, she insisted that I grab another cart, so she could check off the items from her lists. I did it! She then had another "few items", which was another page that I needed to shop for her. The manager had been paging me throughout my shopping and asking what was taking me so long. I told him. He did not believe me until he saw the lists. He had me finish. He told her why did she say it was a few items. She insisted it was a few. He said items and she left it at that. She did not correct his assumption of it being items and not pages. After she gets checked out, she loads up the bags (over 12 bags) and walks out without the cane or limp. Her old lady wig fell off. He was livid and I told him never again!
Hey, Fluff. What Karen did in the liquor store was battery because she made “offensive contact with another person without their consent. In Indiana, where I live, it’s a misdemeanor and can get one 180 in jail. Usually assault is included, that would be a felony, and that can get one up to 2 years in the slammer.
As I worked in a more specialty retailer for 10 years, I can confirm that some people do just come in with lists and expect you to find things for them. I worked my way from grunt to store manager and I've seen pretty much all the entitled behavior stories out there in person. Think my worst example of anything (bad mother, entitled, etc) was a woman who brought her 2-3 year old son into our store. She shopped around for a while and I would say about 15-20 minutes in the son was pulling at her arm and hand on the basket and doing the potty dance. She ignored him. By the time she left, he had already soiled himself and was crying. When she stopped by the door and picked him up, he'd been sitting in his own filth for a long time. Long enough for it to completely soak through the diaper, his shorts, and everything else. There was a stream of crap that came down when she picked him up. She looked down at that, looked at me and said, as she was walking out the door, "you can clean that up." I was livid. Since I was the closing manager, I took the cart outside and hosed it down. Luckily, most of the crap stayed in the cart and didn't really run or had a lot of splatter inside the store/on the floor. We did have to replace our front door rug and clean up a little bit around it, but that was really it. Since I was a manager role/key carrier for 4 of those 10 years, I have a LOT of stories about entitled attitudes, people trying to abuse the system/employees, bad employees, really bad company practices, etc.
I know the feeling. I once had to get a dirty diaper out of a cart when I worked at Tuesday Morning. I almost took the cart to the back and burned it. Don't worry. I disposed of the diaper properly. Also, I washed all of my clothes the next day. My gloves that I wore for winter were made of sweatshirt material, and is machine washable.
If I had been in your place, I would have asked her to stop so I could take her picture. I would have then let her know she was banned from the store for life. I don't care what corporate policy is, you don't treat people like that. For one thing, feces is a health hazard. Second, it is not your responsibility to clean up after a grown woman who refuses to take care of her own child. After all that, I would have found her name and address from store records (receipts, etc.) and reported her behavior to child protective services. Failing to take care of your child to the point that they shit themselves is blatant neglect!
I'm usually very soft spoken and docile, but I've got a fierce and violent protective instinct. If someone tried attacking my sister while I was there, I'm 95% certain the culprit's hand wouldn't be what I slapped.
As much as I would really like to tear into that woman for what she did, I wouldn't. to Karen's it's a game, and sometimes they win that game, I'm not about to give a Karen anything that can be used against me, that's how they win the game
many years ago I actually reached out and touched a female police officer who was in the line ahead of me to cash a check. What I did was give her a neck and shoulder rub because she looked tense. She did thank me and I did not get into trouble.
With story #4, calling the police right then and there wouldn't be the best idea since it was OP's priority to make sure her sister is ok. The confusion and more unfamiliar faces probably would have stressed her out more. At least the woman's info was taken and the store footage was used for the later report.
In the story where the woman grabbed the little sister's hair she should get into even more trouble for assaulting a minor. What is wrong with people how come people can't just accept it when someone tells them they don't work there ? Love your videos Peace and love to you and your family 💙💜💙💜💙💜
Gonna be honest. The moment that woman touches my sister's hair, she'd be beaten with one of the shelving units. As an ex-retail merchandiser, I know how to get those in and out.
I know right I’m autistic myself if that were me and my niece I would scream for my parents and have them call the police And what is up with people using the R word that’s very insulting to us
Had a man walk up to me in Lowe's plumbing department and hand me a list of fittings.A LONG list! I was checking for fittings I needed and had pulled some that were in the wrong place and was putting them back where they belong. I handed back the list and said that I would help him with finding his stuff as soon as I finished but he was having none of this. I tried to tell him I didn't work there but he cut me off and went on a rant about customer service, lazy workers, managers and getting me fired. I said "FIRED! OH NO!" I took his list, pulled my lighter out and lit his list. When it burned out I dropped it on the floor. I looked at him and said "So much for fire." He stood and watched until I finished and I left. Hope he remembers what was on his list. Not!
I will never understand how someone can try to argue with you about whether or not you work somewhere. If someone says they don’t work there, why would you try to argue about it 😂
I would press charges and sue the Karen who pulled the girl’s hair Kid is traumatized and the Karen knew the girl was disabled since she called her a R. Why do these people think it’s okay to put their hands on anyone employee or not especially in an aggressive manor 🤦🏻♀️
That Karen probably didn't actually know that the girl was on the spectrum. Oftentimes, people just use that slur to be a piece of shit to anyone they think is beneath them. Definitely still sue, though. Karens don't learn to not be pieces of shit without consequences.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 i know. People do overuse the word and call it to anyone they don’t like or whatever but since she used it makes her look worse either way. She dug her own hole using that word so loosely whether she meant it literally or not
You asked two questions: 1: The name-calling has nothing to with the person the name is aimed at. The user is using a slur that they hope will cause pain to the other person. Just like any other name-calling. 2: They think they can go around grabbing or slapping people because they do it to their family all the time and no one calls them on it or lays them out properly. I have always believed the stories we see on these YT channels and read in the original Reddit subs occur when one of these people tries to treat a stranger the same as they do their family. It goes poorly for them because the stranger has not been conditioned to put up with her crap. Finally, the 'victim' in these stories often self-identifies as shy, or afraid of confrontations, or being on the spectrum. These traits occur in these stories so often I suspect that the bullying personality somehow senses that these folks will be especially susceptible to their behavior. This is not 'blaming the victim', just that the bully may seek out people that are more vulnerable. The fun stories. of course, happen when either they attempt to bully someone who is equipped to deal with them, or the Karen picks on someone who would normally be vulnerable but has a defender nearby to intervene.
I want to express that story 4 makes sense for OP leaving quickly, as their sister's mental state matters more in that instance then immediately punishing the Karen. Same end result, but the sister will be in better shape.
Yup. I understand the desire to fight back and serve some immediate justice, but it's not a good idea in that situation. The sister's mental health matters a bit more than bloody-ing a Karen's filthy mug or demanding that officers immediately slap cuffs on the psycho bitch. Sensory processing disorders are no joke. Managing those symptoms takes precedence.
Omce I got home I would have enlisted my parents in calling the police on that lady who assaulted a disabled child. This kid is now traumatized by her actions! The police should be involved.
Hey DarkFluff, While I do agree that in most cases, calling the cops right there is the best thing, OP's course of action was the superior one. When someone with such a severe mental disability (such as her sister's trust issues) goes through something as traumatic as having your sanity/safety assaulted, it must be treated much like you would if you found your sibling half beaten to death by their SO: get them out, get them save, then get justice. Seeking justice first will only add abandonment to the trauma.
For the OP defending their sister.... kudos on restraining yourself because if it was me, the paramedics would have taken that Karen out on a stretcher.
Story 4: Quite frankly, Karen was lucky. I imagine there are many people out there that, in response to a loved one getting assaulted for nonsense reasons, would’ve gladly knocked a row of teeth out of her, regardless of whether or not they’d be jailed for it.
NEVER HIT SOMEONE IN THE MOUTH! You will lacerate your knuckles and get a nasty infection. Also, intinctive reaction will cause the person to move their head to avoid the blow. Go for the stomach.
OP's family should bring a suit against the Karen for the additional therapy that the poor girl may have to receive to recover from her traumatic department store experience.
The store I worked had actually had a policy that you had to help customers with shopping, if they'd ask. It was my favourite thing to do; it'd take up a solid chunk of my shift and if I had not finished by the end, I could just say I was helping customers with their shopping. It's policy, after all!
I don't see a issue with helping out if your an employee but if anyone treated me that way I wouldn't help , even if I worked there.I can't belive how some people think they can treat others !
I am a blind person and need help with my in store shopping. I shop mostly at a couple stores. most of the people that help are extremely helpful and we are on a first name basis. I can say my shopping experiences are a lot fun and the employees enjoy helping me because we talk make jokes and laugh. to bad the karens of this world could only get over themselves they might actually learn to enjoy life.
Story 2: When Karen STILL doesn't take "I don't work here" as a legitimate response...try "Do you understand English? Should I try saying in different language 'I don't work here'?" Story 3: Karen's need to keep their hands off other people (and other people's property) if they wish to remain out of jail...always...ALWAYS prosecute a Karen Assault! Story 4: The comment saying it's a class C felony may not be correct depending on the state. In mine...if you assault a child (16 years old = child) who is also disabled...it's a class B. Story 5: For some fully loaded nachos I might actually let a Krazy Khunt Karen yell at me for a minute :)
Retail worker of 15 years here. I have never had a customer shove a list at me, nor have I seen a customer do this. However, customers who have those hand baskets, will sometimes try to trick you into carrying it around the store for them while they shop. No, Sir/Madame/Swamp Thing...I don't get paid enough to do that for you, and I have a ton of other things I need to get done.
Retail worker of 20 years here; same. We sometimes do shopping for customers who call in (Doubly so after the pandemic started up) but there's a shopping charge and a delivery charge. I live in a small town though so only mini-Karens at worst.
I have had people walk up to me in stores thinking I am a manager if I go into the store after work as we have a dress casual policy. I have never had a Karen encounter though. I did work retail when I was young while in college and encountered Karens all the time. Unfortuately for them, I am quite outspoken and have never had an issue dealing with them while keeping a professional demeanor. My manager told me that I have an uncanny ability to get the worst acting customers (many who behave badly everytime they shop in the store) to straighten up and act right. It didn't take the manager long to put me into the customer service department. It also didn't take long for the Karen custoers to figure out I was no longer out on the selling floor. What they didnt know but found out right quick and in a hurry was that when they demanded to speak to a manager, I was the one who would show up to deal with the situation. They would go from raging b*tch to sweet as sugar instantly.
I've been mistaken for an employee a couple times, but a quick "Nope sorry I don't work here" has always been the end of it. That said, if someone is polite, and asks me a question, I'll usually answer it if I know. I know employees aren't always that helpful, and the stores I shop in I've been going to for years, so I know where a lot of things are.
The third story just reminds me of myself and my little brother. I’m extremely protective over him as he’s extremely autistic and is also epileptic. If anything were to happen to him, I’d probably lose my shit. Same goes for all of my siblings. Every time I hear that something has happened regarding my siblings, I’m over there with big sis mode on, ready to fight
Question for those in retail: do people just walk up to you and give you lists expecting you to shop for them? Answer: yes. Absolutely. Though generally speaking it's elderly and in my experience they do tend to be somewhat nice about it. Example: when I worked in a grocery store we had a regular guy that would come in who was mostly blind and couldn't see to shop or walk around the store but was otherwise on his own with no outside help. As a courtesy one of our employees would generally help him around the store. On especially busy days he would wait patiently up front for someone to become available. He would keep his lists short enough to maintain himself for a week no months. And he always tipped whomever helped him. Example of the opposite side of that. We had another regular at the same store. Similar situation that he was disabled and on his own for the most part. No one really wanted to offer this guy the same courtesy however because he was morbidly obese and needed physical help much of the time to get in the mobile cart, tended to smell like he hadn't bathed in years, and because this old skeezy creep thought he was entitled to hit on our underage cashiers and made lewd commentary under the guise of it being a joke. I stopped sending any of my female employees out to help him when I was working, and when I had to do so myself and he would make these 'jokes' I would not laugh and tell him they're not in the least bit funny when he would try to reiterate it was a joke while simultaneously standing several feet back with my phone at the ready and a clear posture indicating I had no intentions on touching him at all and was only there to monitor in case he fell so I could call emts straight away (happened once. Guy ended up sliding to the ground instead of his car seat when he tried to transfer and looked at me as though expecting me, a barely buck twenty sized woman who also happened to be chronically disabled to pick his 400 pound plus ass up off the ground. I can barely pick up a toddler much less that.) Moral of those stories? 1. If you need extra assistance you're more likely to get it being nice and not a creep. 2. Being served by someone does NOT entitle you to lewd commentary or actions with said server.
The fourth story hits close to home in that I have Asperger's. Though, regardless of a person's condition, you don't grab a stranger by the hair when they refuse to help you.
I will never understand why people feel entitled to lay hands on anyone else. And "You're just some dumb employee" only makes it worse. Like being at work doesn't mean you give up your bodily autonomy.
Okay, I work in the produce section of a grocery store. So far, no one has come up to me with a list saying "I need you to find these for me." Now, I almost daily get someone going, "Um, where's the Shredded Lettuce?" (we don't have it with the salad bags). Thus, I point and say, "Just past the peppers." Of course, when one is taking cardboard and trash to their compactors, I tend to get someone going, "Excuse me, but where is Item X?" Sometimes I'm able to look up at a sign nearby, and say, "Aisle Y." Other times, I have to say, "Sorry, but I'm not sure - I work in Produce." In this last case, I tend to advise them to ask someone who does work in that section. Haven't run into too many crazies just yet.
I don't think you can prevent these Karen attacks. I've heard stories of people wearing yellow, black, blue, and more random colours being 'mistaken' as employees. Not only in a red shirt. I think Karens are just blind for anything but age (and race for some weird reason, what's wrong with those people?).
@@ammalyrical5646 probably not, but Target (the bullseye store) had a uniform (or they did)of any Target red top and khakis. I love wearing red, but hate when I have to make a quick stop there and have on a red top. Employees stop and ask me if I know where stuff is. They didn’t have a store name on the shirt. I’ll have to look and see if that’s changed. I haven’t been paying attention.
Karen was either stealing, trying to steal or has stolen in the past. She wouldn't have been thinking about an employee following her if she was genuinely just shopping and nothing else.
I would have taken a picture of hair pulling Karen and posted it on every social media possible to say what she did. Reported her to the police, and pressed charges as well as (if I had the ability) track down her workplace to tell her manager how she acted to a disabled minor. But none of that would be in front of my sister because I wouldn't want to upset her.
i have never read a more stupid comment... you pull the hair of my sibling right next to me and next thing that is happening is you flinging your extremities around like an octopus on land... all within a split second there is no time to pull your cellphone * Sorry i think you meant afterwards.... my bad ;)
@@paul16451 I mean, I'm only speaking hypothetically because I haven't ever had a Karen encounter like this...but if that somehow did hypothetically did happen, she wouldn't get a cent no matter what. Because i would be willing to go full scorched earth to ensure it.
I really don't understand why anyone would go into a regular store, hand an employee a list, and expect them to shop for you. i know it's basically how things were done a long time ago before grocery stores switched to their current format, but that was a very long time ago. It keeps coming up in these stories, though.
Way back in my parents' younger days (about 100 years ago) you could find that still. But more recently some high-end stores provide personal shoppers, and some people work independently as personal shoppers (well-paid I'm told), so it's understandable (Karens being Karens) that they would assume that *for them* everyone is providing that service free of charge and privileged to do so. Also, I suspect the prevalence of curbside pickup adds to this presumption.
In the Walmart I used to work they had a thing called “assistant shopper” or something like that, but it was only for people who have limited mobility or are disabled in some way… they sure as hell weren’t for some random Karen trying to act important or was too lazy/stupid to do her own damn shopping.
There are times I needed help finding items at the grocery store because they get moved all the time but I don't just shove a list in an employee's face because it's not polite. I'd just straight up ask them to show me where they are so I'd know for next time.
Since I'm the youngest of 4, I get often mistaken for any of my siblings' son. It's hilarious. Yes, I do have nieces and nephews who are older than me. So, it'd be hilarious if someone tried attacking any of them. The next oldest is 69. Oh, and, yeah, he happens to be a multiple black belt. My two older sisters have their ways with handling people. One has the "dad stare". It's the kind of thing that makes even adults back down in fear of a butt getting tanned. The other has years of experience with repairing farm equipment and for a thin frame has more than enough muscle to hogtie anyone who decides to unleash on her. As for me, I have some professional diplomacy that I prefer to use.
Karen calm down it’s just bread, what a good big brother, she doesn’t work there Karen and there’s no need to bring a nasty language, I feel so sorry for his sister, Employee or not you do not grab people by their hair I don’t care who you are .
If someone wants to charge me with assault for defending myself, you can bet I'm going to EARN that charge! I'm 5' tall, 55 years old with PTSD from an abusive childhood. I go out of my way to avoid confrontation, but if someone insists, that's on them.
Adopted Sister Story: If I had been in OP's place, they WOULD need to call both the Police (for me) and an Ambulance (for Karen) as the moment Karen grabbed my Sister's hair, I'd have grabbed Karen by the neck and done my absolute best to throw her through the nearest wall of the store...The way I'd haul Karen away from my Sister in preparation to throw her would be designed to snap her neck like a twig so they might have to replace the Ambulance with the Coroner's Van... I'm not generally a Violent person, but you Attack my Friends or Family and I lose all sense of Sanity, Restraint and Humanity...I turn into something that would scare even the Hulk in full Rage Mode... In Dungeons and Dragons terms, my Alignment would instantly switch from Lawful Good to Chaotic Evil... Don't fuck with my Friends and Family because I won't kill you... I won't be NEARLY that nice to you...
My daughter was in a situation were screaming racism was used to cause a distraction. She picked up security tags off the floor by the fitting room. Didn't think whomever was still around. A customer immediately accused her of being racist and she's not a thief. Long story short my daughter defended the customer and the customer was the thief.
I used to work at a place stocking shelves. I would tell the new employees to beware the people who expected you to shop for them. "Where is the dish soap? Take me there! Show me!" Had some newbs not believe me until it happened to them, usually within 3 days of being hired in.
For story 4, OP was completely right in her order of actions. Sure the lady was waaaaaaay out of turn, and deservs to be punished. But first priority is to get S out of the stressfull situation, and into a safe environment. Getting her info, and calling the police later is absolutely the right move.
3rd story OP has good self control. Last time I was attacked from the back I instantly turned and uppercut-punched the aggressor. I only registered the event one half second after the hit. Whoops.
I'm raised by my parents to always help others in need, wether if it's asking directions or defending them from a racist tirade or assault. I WILL help those people and Karen would have gotten hurt for attacking a disabled person, you can bet on that. Karens, racists etc... make my blood boil. EDIT : i don't do well with sudden touches, especially from behind, that can make me black out and really hurt you. But then again, just don't grab strangers in general.
That's 'Donner'. The family and party that tried to cross the Rockies on foot but, in desperation from starving, resorted to cannibalism. It's well known in the US even though it happened during the early years of settling in the Western areas.
Oh, I get so tired of the people who scream "Do you know who I am?" My recommended answer, after a slow, contemptuous look up and down, is: "I know *what* you are".
Ah cheers DarkFluff, you’ve brightened up my Saturday! Red weather alert in NE Scotland, I’m under 2 blankets and a duvet, have the heating on and thick clothes, it’s very cold! My friends house was almost hit by a falling tree, the neighbour nearby had a partial chimney collapse, properties have had roofs start coming off, so I’m hiding inside where I can try and stay warm, so you’ve made my Saturday a LOT better!!!
I listen to so many of these. A big big hug to all the OPS. I hug you, and the mistreated. It makes me sad how mistreated everyday people are Treated. You shouldn't have to endure this. No one should.
“Looking at me, the way a cow looks at an oncoming train” 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 I literally almost just fell out of my wheelchair-that amount of unexpected laughter shook me so hard! 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
I work in a grocery store and I have had a few customers ask me to get stuff for them. Usually something they can't find on the shelf but occasionally something that is above/too deep for them to reach. The only one who has ever given me a list is the one woman in a wheelchair who shops with her 7 yo grand daughter and likes organic foods that are usually on the to shelf.
If someone assaulted a disabled family member like that, I would go both criminal and civil routes. The additional attention and therapy required to bring the sister back to baseline would be expensive and needs to be covered.
"If I was in that position, I would have noped out of there so fast" well that's the plus side about stories like this, you, and infact most folks don't have to worry about being in that position because we're not crazy karens xD
Yeah I have PTSD too, if a Karen grabbed me I wouldn’t be shouting tho, whenever I go through hyperarousal (fight or fight) my body picks flight and I’ll physically defend myself.
I have PTSD as well from emotional abuse as a child. I've been very fortunate to have not been triggered into a physical response before. At my current age (54)and physical condition, I would try not to strike out. I would find the nearest object and throw it at them, though. I can't run, either.
These stories are so crazy. I’ll be in Walmart looking for an employee for help. I’ll see a person in the Walmart vest, walk up, quietly say “excuse me” and sometimes they turn and walk away. My reaction is, “Ope! Guess I’ll go find someone else 🤷🏻♀️”
I am surprised at your reaction to the sister not wanting to wait for the cops. With the type of issue the little sister has, the most important thing is to very quickly get them into a safe environment so they can calm down. Remaining in the store for the police would only make the situation worse for her sister. But she did get all the information taken and called the police later to file a report.
In Lucky it’s in the isles next to or across from the PB&J, which is in the isle equidistant between the bakery and the frozen cases. All the factory bread is there.
I was working at Rite Aid around 1999 on Christmas Eve. We were the biggest retailer for 40 miles in rural Northern California. So, we were crazy busy. The lines were like 15 people long. We also sold Christmas trees. There was something like 15 varieties. The customer had to remove the tag for the specific tree they wanted and bring it in to be rung up. This young Karen is in my line and when it's her turn she says that she wants a tree. I told her the process. As she was leaving she asked if she could cut the line when she got her tag or so I thought. Being nice, I said I would allow it. While she was gone, I rang up 2 people and was finishing up with an elderly man. She comes back in screaming that I told her I'd wait for her. Um, no. So, I ring her up after I finished with the old man. After she pays, she asked about a rope to tie it to the top of her car. I told her that if we had any that it would be in aisle 10 (hardware). She screams that she should get rope for free. She demands that I look behind my counter. I'm at information where we stored tobacco. I was there nearly every day. I was quite aware of what was back there. I told her, "No." [Even if we had rope, I wouldn't be allowed to give it to her.] She yells/asks, "So, you're not even going to look?" Once again, I say, "No". She screams that she's going to call my manager and get me fired. I told her to go ahead. The customers afterward expressed their sympathy. For the record, during the whole transaction with this woman, I kept the blandest look on my face and my voice was low key. One of the customers told me he would not have handled the situation so kindly. The next day I worked my shift manager, Gary, asked what happened. After I explained, he said that's what he told the manager, Brett, probably happened. I never heard a thing more about it. Yeah, we dealt with some rude customers, but I never had someone other than her act so demanding. I never had someone push a grocery list in my face. It was always polite. I worked there for about a year.
Karen’s going to Karen until someone beats the Karen out of them. At some point you would think that by acting like that the only things that they are entitled to is a physical beating and jail time. At least that’s what I think fluff. Hopefully Steveo is enjoying the season and you are taking care of him
I was once in a major department store, in a designer area of the store. I was actually wearing the designer blouses at the time. A Karen approached me asking for assistance. I'm sorry I don't work here. Her response was so funny, "You really shouldn't dress like that when you're shopping!" Cute. All I could say was, "Thank you so much!" Had a good chuckle over that one.
I find it so insane people are willing to grab complete strangers like that. I would turn elbows out the second someone dug their nails into my shoulder out of reflex
I was confronted by an I've get you fired Karen. I told her that while I was not an employee, she could not get me fired. She was, on the other hand, a customer. If she persisted, I'd see that she was blacklisted from ever shopping in that store again.
Having worked retail for 19 years (finally got out just before 2020), I can say yes...some people do come up and give you a list expecting you to get their stuff, though it was not very common. Now in some of their defense they may be disabled in some form. The place I worked had some people who would handle such things. But as a general rule we declined and just gave them back their list telling them where things were. It was not a grocery store or anything as large as Wal-Mart or Target and didn't carry such a variety of randomness. So that could play into the infrequent times that we encountered it. On the other subject of people just assuming you work places and not taking your word that you don't. I've had people assume I worked somewhere but in every situation they've acknowledged their mistake and went on their way. Sometimes you just have the body language and presence that makes you look like you "belong" and I suspect that's what confuses them. I have no idea why anyone who actually did work for an establishment would lie about it. I would presume all the retail companies would have some rule on the books that doing so would lead to discipline and/or termination. The place I worked certainly did. So nobody in their right mind would dare try that, unless they were trying to get terminated.
"I don't work here lady" stories are my favorite. There's just something crazy about people who are so entitled that they can't accept the notion that they had made a mistake. Karens are crazy.
I’m a seven-year retail employee, the only times I’ve had someone give me a list or show me their phone with a screenshot is when they are buying something for someone else and either the person with the list/photo doesn’t know if we carry it or has no idea what it is. My grandmother has done this before when trying to find Christmas/birthday gifts and she will write down what we want or have us write it and she’ll ask an employee if they know what it is and where to find it, but she does it very politely as she worked retail for 30+years
I normally just sit back and joy the stories, but you asked people in retail if customers just shove a list into your face and demand that you get the items for them. Yes, customers do it all the time. Thank you for the enjoyable stories Darkfluff and Steveo!
What would you do if someone tried to attack your sibling? Would you call police or teach them a lesson right then and there? 🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥🔥🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Oh I'd scream first, then wait for the police, making sure sister is okay first. If she continued to attack, her face would look like Picasso.
Agreed, CT 1035. No one picks on my little(not so little) brother but me, and now his daughters. It has always been my right. Lol.
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Definitely both. I’d make it where they don’t know where I bury the body
For the sister story, I'm going to echo others and say that OP did right: Her sister's mental condition is Priority One and _must_ be handled really quickly. OP did right by bringing her sister home ASAP, not calling the cops and pressing charges _at the moment._ (OP did say that she later called the police from home. I hope the charges stick)
I have HFA as well and id likely start screaming and trying to take a swing qt that women if she did that to me, and while i can shop on my own my family is a phone call away to come get me if i need it
As a HFA myself I am lucky to be able to function as a mostly functional adult but if screamed at by some aggressive woman my normal sweet and harmless nature flies out the window as I go hulk mode when I feel threatened.
(TL/DR at bottom) Years ago, I was attacked by a Karen. She saw my shopping cart had a loaf of fresh bread (not your typical “off the shelf” loaf. She asked where I had gotten it, so I pointed her in the direction of the bakery and where to find the same type of bread loaf as mine.
Later, as I was leaving after checking out, she came up to me in the parking lot and lamented that the bakery had just run out of the fresh bread, so she wanted my loaf. I politely told her “No. I already paid for this. It’s mine.” She tried to offer me what I had paid for it, I politely declined. I offered to take double what I had paid for it, and she got really angry and started yelling at me, calling me “Selfish”, and “Greedy”. She tried to snatch the bread from my bag, and I pulled the bread away. She tried to push me down and steal the bread, but I took out my pepper spray and aimed it at her (my brother taught me how to safely use Level 3 pepper spray). She backed off, and I finished loading my car.
Later, she called the police, after surreptitiously taking down my license plate (used her camera phone to photograph the license plate), and I was pulled over by the police, who claimed I had assaulted this woman and stolen her loaf of bread. I gave my side of the story and showed them the receipt for the bread. We went back to the store, and Karen was screaming at me, and demanding that the cops arrest me and give her the bread loaf. The police suggested checking the store surveillance cameras. Karen refused, claiming it wasn’t necessary. The police told her “We can’t arrest without proof.”. The store manager showed them the footage, showing Karen assaulting me and my pulling the pepper spray can and holding it up in self defense (but not using it). Karen was arrested for assaulting me, for lying to the police, for causing a public disturbance, and abuse of emergency services. Her husband had bailed her out and later she agreed to a plea bargain of a fine and community service.
TL/DR: Karen wants my loaf of fresh bread, it was the last one available for sale, I refused, she tried to steal it. I draw pepper spray canister in self defense, she backs off but later calls police and lies to them. I get pulled over by police, explain my side of story, police check parking lot cameras, truth comes out, Karen is arrested.
That's a great Karen story! She got what she deserves! I'm sorry you had to experience that, it probably ruined your entire day.
I feel like a broken record at this point, but how the hell do people feel justified to verbally harass and lay their hands on other people or employees.
Because their victims never press charges or knock them out.
That's something will never be understood even if there was a reason why of the justification. Aside from the feeling of the customer is always right or Dominancy
Mental illness, trauma coping, bigotry, bad upbringing...
Some combination of the above.
Because birds aren’t real
Its amazing they never learnt the basic preschool/kindergarten lesson, dont touch someone without permission, always be nice to others. They should be made to go back to school
Unfortunately with the case of the autistic sister, the priority was to get the sister (who was having a shutdown) out of the store ASAP. She wouldn't have been able to handle waiting around for the police, then waiting even longer (and possibly having to give a statement then and there) before she could get home to where she feels safe and is able to decompress.
I say this as someone on the spectrum. It's great you want the lady to be charged and not get off easy (and I really hope she doesn't get off easy for assaulting the poor girl), but with the case of someone with a disability like autism who is already having trouble, it's just not feasible for them to wait around for the police.
I’m a female, veteran. My husband learned the hard way to never sneak up behind me. I’m 5’4” 100lbs, he’s 6’4” 198lbs. He came up behind me and wrapped his arms around me, very stealthy. He was on the floor struggling to breathe within less than a second! Poor guy. He was just trying to be romantic. Be careful out there touching people, most don’t put up with it.
I’m tempted to make a joke here but I don’t know if it’s worth it.
@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 I’m a good sport, I lived with 11 guys for years! Go for it
I'm not a veteran. I'm about your same build. Anyone ever snuck up behind me or tried to touch my nether regions and, at the very least, they'd get a very sharp elbow right in the midriff very very solidly. The goods aren't for sale, rent or touching. One exception was when I attended a show in a pub/bar, when I was 7 months pregnant. It showed all in the front, but not from behind. As my girlfriends and I tried to get through the crowd to our table, some guys had taken up strategic positions to "cop" some free feels. I noted one guy ahead of me was focussed on the girl moving through in front of me, and I turned a bit sideways anyway (to not lead with my stomach, protectively). We got momentarily held up in our congo line through the crush, and Handsy Guy decided to feel me up from the back. I let him. Then his hands got around to the front and ARRGGGHHH. He dropped his hands away like he'd picked up a hot poker. Still laugh about that.
@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 make the joke i wanna hear it
You’re badass, either way, still having the muscle memory to knock someone a foot taller than you down like he’s a small child and not a grown man.
Do employees really lie about being employees so much that we can't just believe a person when they say they don't work there? Like do Karen's really think these people come to work just to take off their name tags and pretend to be a customer all without their managers and fellow employees noticing? If these people used their brains just a tiny bit they'd be able to see how stupid that is.
That's the problem, most of these people don't have functioning brains.
The lights are on, nobody's home.
Lol as a grocery store employee we get asked even in the restrooms… it’s annoying but I understand
@@TheBlkSimsQyeen that's just unacceptable. You're a better person than me bc if I was in the stall and they tried talking to me I'd probably open the stall and invite them in since they're questions are sooo important and time sensitive they can't wait 2 mins or go find someone else to help them. My ass would be fired quick as hell. I love your name btw 💚
@@TheAttacker732 LOL! Yep, nobody home!
They can't imagine being wrong
Nice to see the fines for assault can go that high. But the question to pose to Karen is "What gives you the right to grab ANYBODY in a store?" Employee or customer it doesn't matter it's still not right.
Story 3. OP did right by taking her sister home first, and then calling the police. She needed to get her back to a safe place First!
This. The sister's mental health is the first priority. Charges, etc can happen later. (and I hope they did charge the woman.)
That's story 4.
*Story 4
My thoughts exactly.
As a person that worked (as a manager) in retail for 20 years, YES!!!! It's a thing!!! Karens have never wanted help... They've wanted an assistant to do things for them... and they expect you to drop everything to do it with a smile on your face and yes ma'am on your lips!!!! ugh!!!
Imagine being too lazy to do your own grocery shopping, oh wait you don't because people like this actually exist, I do not envy you good sir
The funny thing is that 100 years ago, you would shop by giving an employee a list and they would gather and package the items for you. It was pretty normal then, so if the person looks to be 100years old, maybe that’s why?
@@Robynhoodlum it's really not giving service that gets me, it's being treated like a servant. (Being disrespected and treated like I'm below them.)
@@Robynhoodlum so something, something, okay boomer?
They want the personal shopper treatment without actually hiring one or going to a fancy posh shop that offers one. It's not about laziness. It is about (the illusion of) power and dominance. They are the lead singers in their own opera and everyone else is a supporting extra with sole purpose in life to make the diva look and feel good.
Last story: she went to the manager to demand "compensation" after the scene... yeah, it was a scam, but she screwed up by not picking an actual employee.
Not really messed up, no. They know full well someone isn't an employee. Because, how often have you seen the phrase "Then Karen went and got the manager"???? so why do people still insist on believing the Karens' lies? It's all a lie. It's a distraction. Maybe they have an offsider who is shop lifting. Maybe they're trying it on to get free stuff (usually always). But they ALWAYS know where the employees, the real ones, hang out. Always. And why the victims don't yell for security or a manager first, beats me.
Story 5, the lady making a scene, had JUST stolen a bunch of shit. The manager telling her to leave before they call the police is JUST what she wanted. She didn't get searched on her way out. This is a classic tactic.
The girl with the disability story hit a personal spot for me, as me and my niece both have Autism, even though I was lucky to not have ever been bullied or harassed like the poor girl was. But I so would've had her arrested on the spot if that did happen.
What gets me about all these, is in what world do these people get the idea that it is "okay" to verbally or physically assault people, customers or staff or not?
Entitled and abusive people, ignorant idiots or not, they all deserve to be shut down, charged or in some cases arrested to they can maybe learn how to behave in society.
My 18 year old son is also high functioning autistic. I've had to calm him down a few times because of idiots who don't get it.
Story two: I had a store manager ask me to do the shopping for an elderly customer. She told him it was just a few items. It was a few notebook pages, every single line on both sides After I was done getting every single item, she insisted that I grab another cart, so she could check off the items from her lists. I did it! She then had another "few items", which was another page that I needed to shop for her. The manager had been paging me throughout my shopping and asking what was taking me so long. I told him. He did not believe me until he saw the lists. He had me finish. He told her why did she say it was a few items. She insisted it was a few. He said items and she left it at that. She did not correct his assumption of it being items and not pages. After she gets checked out, she loads up the bags (over 12 bags) and walks out without the cane or limp. Her old lady wig fell off. He was livid and I told him never again!
Hey, Fluff. What Karen did in the liquor store was battery because she made “offensive contact with another person without their consent. In Indiana, where I live, it’s a misdemeanor and can get one 180 in jail. Usually assault is included, that would be a felony, and that can get one up to 2 years in the slammer.
As I worked in a more specialty retailer for 10 years, I can confirm that some people do just come in with lists and expect you to find things for them. I worked my way from grunt to store manager and I've seen pretty much all the entitled behavior stories out there in person.
Think my worst example of anything (bad mother, entitled, etc) was a woman who brought her 2-3 year old son into our store. She shopped around for a while and I would say about 15-20 minutes in the son was pulling at her arm and hand on the basket and doing the potty dance. She ignored him. By the time she left, he had already soiled himself and was crying. When she stopped by the door and picked him up, he'd been sitting in his own filth for a long time. Long enough for it to completely soak through the diaper, his shorts, and everything else. There was a stream of crap that came down when she picked him up.
She looked down at that, looked at me and said, as she was walking out the door, "you can clean that up." I was livid. Since I was the closing manager, I took the cart outside and hosed it down. Luckily, most of the crap stayed in the cart and didn't really run or had a lot of splatter inside the store/on the floor. We did have to replace our front door rug and clean up a little bit around it, but that was really it.
Since I was a manager role/key carrier for 4 of those 10 years, I have a LOT of stories about entitled attitudes, people trying to abuse the system/employees, bad employees, really bad company practices, etc.
I know the feeling. I once had to get a dirty diaper out of a cart when I worked at Tuesday Morning. I almost took the cart to the back and burned it. Don't worry. I disposed of the diaper properly. Also, I washed all of my clothes the next day. My gloves that I wore for winter were made of sweatshirt material, and is machine washable.
If I had been in your place, I would have asked her to stop so I could take her picture. I would have then let her know she was banned from the store for life. I don't care what corporate policy is, you don't treat people like that. For one thing, feces is a health hazard. Second, it is not your responsibility to clean up after a grown woman who refuses to take care of her own child. After all that, I would have found her name and address from store records (receipts, etc.) and reported her behavior to child protective services. Failing to take care of your child to the point that they shit themselves is blatant neglect!
And she didn't get in ANY trouble? Wtf
@@WinterPains Why would she get into trouble? Accidents with small kids happen.
@@dtz1000 That was more than just an accident, that was negligence.
I'm usually very soft spoken and docile, but I've got a fierce and violent protective instinct. If someone tried attacking my sister while I was there, I'm 95% certain the culprit's hand wouldn't be what I slapped.
I would do a lot more. My earrings may come out.
I wouldn’t have stopped with the hand
agreed
As much as I would really like to tear into that woman for what she did, I wouldn't. to Karen's it's a game, and sometimes they win that game, I'm not about to give a Karen anything that can be used against me, that's how they win the game
@@kingtony_xx_0517 In my case the Karen would go to the ER with a broken fucking jaw, let's see them think they won "the game" after that.
I have never touched an employee of a place in my life to get their attention or to harass them. What is wrong with these people?? 😲😨😡
many years ago I actually reached out and touched a female police officer who was in the line ahead of me to cash a check. What I did was give her a neck and shoulder rub because she looked tense. She did thank me and I did not get into trouble.
@@olinewright6877 Why would you do that? Why would you touch a stranger and rub their neck and shoulders?!
That is so creepy! I hope you are joking.
With story #4, calling the police right then and there wouldn't be the best idea since it was OP's priority to make sure her sister is ok. The confusion and more unfamiliar faces probably would have stressed her out more. At least the woman's info was taken and the store footage was used for the later report.
In the story where the woman grabbed the little sister's hair she should get into even more trouble for assaulting a minor. What is wrong with people how come people can't just accept it when someone tells them they don't work there ? Love your videos Peace and love to you and your family 💙💜💙💜💙💜
Only one in a hundred thousand people is like this Possibly even fewer.
Gonna be honest. The moment that woman touches my sister's hair, she'd be beaten with one of the shelving units. As an ex-retail merchandiser, I know how to get those in and out.
@@BrokensoulRider Same here. I would have probably punched her in the face the moment she grabbed her hair. Some triggers should NOT... be triggered
@@robinb.905 So true. She'd be in the ICU if it were me. 👿
I know right I’m autistic myself if that were me and my niece I would scream for my parents and have them call the police
And what is up with people using the R word that’s very insulting to us
I feel bad for op and her sister. The sister has been traumatized by that Karen
Problem being little sis is also a minor at the age of 16.
Inform the damn karen of the results of her stupidity and sue her for damages
Had a man walk up to me in Lowe's plumbing department and hand me a list of fittings.A LONG list! I was checking for fittings I needed and had pulled some that were in the wrong place and was putting them back where they belong. I handed back the list and said that I would help him with finding his stuff as soon as I finished but he was having none of this. I tried to tell him I didn't work there but he cut me off and went on a rant about customer service, lazy workers, managers and getting me fired. I said "FIRED! OH NO!" I took his list, pulled my lighter out and lit his list. When it burned out I dropped it on the floor. I looked at him and said "So much for fire." He stood and watched until I finished and I left. Hope he remembers what was on his list. Not!
Nice 👍
Haha brutal!
I will never understand how someone can try to argue with you about whether or not you work somewhere. If someone says they don’t work there, why would you try to argue about it 😂
Exactly! I have had that happen a few times at random stores, but as soon as I said I don't work here they just say oh I'm sorry.
I would press charges and sue the Karen who pulled the girl’s hair Kid is traumatized and the Karen knew the girl was disabled since she called her a R. Why do these people think it’s okay to put their hands on anyone employee or not especially in an aggressive manor 🤦🏻♀️
That Karen probably didn't actually know that the girl was on the spectrum. Oftentimes, people just use that slur to be a piece of shit to anyone they think is beneath them. Definitely still sue, though. Karens don't learn to not be pieces of shit without consequences.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 i know. People do overuse the word and call it to anyone they don’t like or whatever but since she used it makes her look worse either way. She dug her own hole using that word so loosely whether she meant it literally or not
You asked two questions:
1: The name-calling has nothing to with the person the name is aimed at. The user is using a slur that they hope will cause pain to the other person. Just like any other name-calling.
2: They think they can go around grabbing or slapping people because they do it to their family all the time and no one calls them on it or lays them out properly.
I have always believed the stories we see on these YT channels and read in the original Reddit subs occur when one of these people tries to treat a stranger the same as they do their family. It goes poorly for them because the stranger has not been conditioned to put up with her crap.
Finally, the 'victim' in these stories often self-identifies as shy, or afraid of confrontations, or being on the spectrum. These traits occur in these stories so often I suspect that the bullying personality somehow senses that these folks will be especially susceptible to their behavior. This is not 'blaming the victim', just that the bully may seek out people that are more vulnerable.
The fun stories. of course, happen when either they attempt to bully someone who is equipped to deal with them, or the Karen picks on someone who would normally be vulnerable but has a defender nearby to intervene.
I want to express that story 4 makes sense for OP leaving quickly, as their sister's mental state matters more in that instance then immediately punishing the Karen. Same end result, but the sister will be in better shape.
Yup. I understand the desire to fight back and serve some immediate justice, but it's not a good idea in that situation. The sister's mental health matters a bit more than bloody-ing a Karen's filthy mug or demanding that officers immediately slap cuffs on the psycho bitch. Sensory processing disorders are no joke. Managing those symptoms takes precedence.
Exactly. I don't understand how this isn't obvious to everybody ...
Oh heck yeah! Days are always improved when stevo and fluff tells us stories of people who are Awful. So we feel better about ourselves! 😂
My sister and I both have some mental issues, but we won't hesitate to defend each other from psychotic weirdos.
Somebody messes with our family, vengeance shall be mine!
Omce I got home I would have enlisted my parents in calling the police on that lady who assaulted a disabled child. This kid is now traumatized by her actions! The police should be involved.
Hey DarkFluff,
While I do agree that in most cases, calling the cops right there is the best thing, OP's course of action was the superior one.
When someone with such a severe mental disability (such as her sister's trust issues) goes through something as traumatic as having your sanity/safety assaulted, it must be treated much like you would if you found your sibling half beaten to death by their SO: get them out, get them save, then get justice. Seeking justice first will only add abandonment to the trauma.
For the OP defending their sister.... kudos on restraining yourself because if it was me, the paramedics would have taken that Karen out on a stretcher.
Story 4: Quite frankly, Karen was lucky. I imagine there are many people out there that, in response to a loved one getting assaulted for nonsense reasons, would’ve gladly knocked a row of teeth out of her, regardless of whether or not they’d be jailed for it.
Agreed.
NEVER HIT SOMEONE IN THE MOUTH! You will lacerate your knuckles and get a nasty infection. Also, intinctive reaction will cause the person to move their head to avoid the blow. Go for the stomach.
OP's family should bring a suit against the Karen for the additional therapy that the poor girl may have to receive to recover from her traumatic department store experience.
Ironically the liquor store story triggered the most painful PTSD memories in my life.
Oof... Have an unwind spell. Treat yoself to some yummy food and a good movie.
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 seconded and a nice warm bath or shower
Us
Same here. And boy oh boy do I understand pulling over for the ugly cry and try to calm down.
The store I worked had actually had a policy that you had to help customers with shopping, if they'd ask.
It was my favourite thing to do; it'd take up a solid chunk of my shift and if I had not finished by the end, I could just say I was helping customers with their shopping.
It's policy, after all!
If you're an employee yes...when this happens it's always to someone that doesn't work there.
I don't see a issue with helping out if your an employee but if anyone treated me that way I wouldn't help , even if I worked there.I can't belive how some people think they can treat others !
r/maliciouscompliance
I am a blind person and need help with my in store shopping. I shop mostly at a couple stores. most of the people that help are extremely helpful and we are on a first name basis. I can say my shopping experiences are a lot fun and the employees enjoy helping me because we talk make jokes and laugh. to bad the karens of this world could only get over themselves they might actually learn to enjoy life.
Story 2: When Karen STILL doesn't take "I don't work here" as a legitimate response...try "Do you understand English? Should I try saying in different language 'I don't work here'?"
Story 3: Karen's need to keep their hands off other people (and other people's property) if they wish to remain out of jail...always...ALWAYS prosecute a Karen Assault!
Story 4: The comment saying it's a class C felony may not be correct depending on the state. In mine...if you assault a child (16 years old = child) who is also disabled...it's a class B.
Story 5: For some fully loaded nachos I might actually let a Krazy Khunt Karen yell at me for a minute :)
Retail worker of 15 years here. I have never had a customer shove a list at me, nor have I seen a customer do this. However, customers who have those hand baskets, will sometimes try to trick you into carrying it around the store for them while they shop. No, Sir/Madame/Swamp Thing...I don't get paid enough to do that for you, and I have a ton of other things I need to get done.
That's ridiculous I wouldn't be even think about asking an employee to carry my basket.
Retail worker of 20 years here; same. We sometimes do shopping for customers who call in (Doubly so after the pandemic started up) but there's a shopping charge and a delivery charge.
I live in a small town though so only mini-Karens at worst.
I have had people walk up to me in stores thinking I am a manager if I go into the store after work as we have a dress casual policy. I have never had a Karen encounter though. I did work retail when I was young while in college and encountered Karens all the time. Unfortuately for them, I am quite outspoken and have never had an issue dealing with them while keeping a professional demeanor. My manager told me that I have an uncanny ability to get the worst acting customers (many who behave badly everytime they shop in the store) to straighten up and act right. It didn't take the manager long to put me into the customer service department. It also didn't take long for the Karen custoers to figure out I was no longer out on the selling floor. What they didnt know but found out right quick and in a hurry was that when they demanded to speak to a manager, I was the one who would show up to deal with the situation. They would go from raging b*tch to sweet as sugar instantly.
I've been mistaken for an employee a couple times, but a quick "Nope sorry I don't work here" has always been the end of it. That said, if someone is polite, and asks me a question, I'll usually answer it if I know. I know employees aren't always that helpful, and the stores I shop in I've been going to for years, so I know where a lot of things are.
Me too.
The third story just reminds me of myself and my little brother. I’m extremely protective over him as he’s extremely autistic and is also epileptic. If anything were to happen to him, I’d probably lose my shit. Same goes for all of my siblings. Every time I hear that something has happened regarding my siblings, I’m over there with big sis mode on, ready to fight
Question for those in retail: do people just walk up to you and give you lists expecting you to shop for them?
Answer: yes. Absolutely. Though generally speaking it's elderly and in my experience they do tend to be somewhat nice about it. Example: when I worked in a grocery store we had a regular guy that would come in who was mostly blind and couldn't see to shop or walk around the store but was otherwise on his own with no outside help. As a courtesy one of our employees would generally help him around the store. On especially busy days he would wait patiently up front for someone to become available. He would keep his lists short enough to maintain himself for a week no months. And he always tipped whomever helped him. Example of the opposite side of that. We had another regular at the same store. Similar situation that he was disabled and on his own for the most part. No one really wanted to offer this guy the same courtesy however because he was morbidly obese and needed physical help much of the time to get in the mobile cart, tended to smell like he hadn't bathed in years, and because this old skeezy creep thought he was entitled to hit on our underage cashiers and made lewd commentary under the guise of it being a joke. I stopped sending any of my female employees out to help him when I was working, and when I had to do so myself and he would make these 'jokes' I would not laugh and tell him they're not in the least bit funny when he would try to reiterate it was a joke while simultaneously standing several feet back with my phone at the ready and a clear posture indicating I had no intentions on touching him at all and was only there to monitor in case he fell so I could call emts straight away (happened once. Guy ended up sliding to the ground instead of his car seat when he tried to transfer and looked at me as though expecting me, a barely buck twenty sized woman who also happened to be chronically disabled to pick his 400 pound plus ass up off the ground. I can barely pick up a toddler much less that.)
Moral of those stories? 1. If you need extra assistance you're more likely to get it being nice and not a creep. 2. Being served by someone does NOT entitle you to lewd commentary or actions with said server.
The fourth story hits close to home in that I have Asperger's. Though, regardless of a person's condition, you don't grab a stranger by the hair when they refuse to help you.
I will never understand why people feel entitled to lay hands on anyone else. And "You're just some dumb employee" only makes it worse. Like being at work doesn't mean you give up your bodily autonomy.
Okay, I work in the produce section of a grocery store. So far, no one has come up to me with a list saying "I need you to find these for me." Now, I almost daily get someone going, "Um, where's the Shredded Lettuce?" (we don't have it with the salad bags). Thus, I point and say, "Just past the peppers."
Of course, when one is taking cardboard and trash to their compactors, I tend to get someone going, "Excuse me, but where is Item X?" Sometimes I'm able to look up at a sign nearby, and say, "Aisle Y." Other times, I have to say, "Sorry, but I'm not sure - I work in Produce." In this last case, I tend to advise them to ask someone who does work in that section.
Haven't run into too many crazies just yet.
NEVER wear red to Target... you just might be mistaken for an employee
Or anything blue in Walmart.
Every darn time 😂 especially a red shirt with khaki pants. I have employees try to ask me questions. 😂
I don't think you can prevent these Karen attacks. I've heard stories of people wearing yellow, black, blue, and more random colours being 'mistaken' as employees. Not only in a red shirt.
I think Karens are just blind for anything but age (and race for some weird reason, what's wrong with those people?).
@@ammalyrical5646 probably not, but Target (the bullseye store) had a uniform (or they did)of any Target red top and khakis. I love wearing red, but hate when I have to make a quick stop there and have on a red top. Employees stop and ask me if I know where stuff is. They didn’t have a store name on the shirt. I’ll have to look and see if that’s changed. I haven’t been paying attention.
That's easy cause I don't go to Target unless I absolutely have to. And that is very rare.
Karen was either stealing, trying to steal or has stolen in the past. She wouldn't have been thinking about an employee following her if she was genuinely just shopping and nothing else.
Not if she was African Amercan. We get followed in stores a lot. Hence, the racism accusation from the Karen.
I would have taken a picture of hair pulling Karen and posted it on every social media possible to say what she did. Reported her to the police, and pressed charges as well as (if I had the ability) track down her workplace to tell her manager how she acted to a disabled minor. But none of that would be in front of my sister because I wouldn't want to upset her.
Exactly gotta keep your sister's well being in mind
If it were me, that woman would've been face first on the floor choking on her own blood less than 2 seconds after the hair grabbing.
i have never read a more stupid comment... you pull the hair of my sibling right next to me and next thing that is happening is you flinging your extremities around like an octopus on land... all within a split second
there is no time to pull your cellphone
* Sorry i think you meant afterwards.... my bad ;)
Be careful...such posts could get you into legal trouble if Karen sues for libel.
@@paul16451 I mean, I'm only speaking hypothetically because I haven't ever had a Karen encounter like this...but if that somehow did hypothetically did happen, she wouldn't get a cent no matter what. Because i would be willing to go full scorched earth to ensure it.
I really don't understand why anyone would go into a regular store, hand an employee a list, and expect them to shop for you. i know it's basically how things were done a long time ago before grocery stores switched to their current format, but that was a very long time ago. It keeps coming up in these stories, though.
Way back in my parents' younger days (about 100 years ago) you could find that still. But more recently some high-end stores provide personal shoppers, and some people work independently as personal shoppers (well-paid I'm told), so it's understandable (Karens being Karens) that they would assume that *for them* everyone is providing that service free of charge and privileged to do so. Also, I suspect the prevalence of curbside pickup adds to this presumption.
Though now-a-days, if you want a store employee to do your shopping, then order online at a place that does pickup.
@@bagnome exactly, but it's still not done by handing your list to an employee. People are so weird.
In the Walmart I used to work they had a thing called “assistant shopper” or something like that, but it was only for people who have limited mobility or are disabled in some way… they sure as hell weren’t for some random Karen trying to act important or was too lazy/stupid to do her own damn shopping.
You’re a wonderful person to protect your sister. I hope PB went to jail.
There are times I needed help finding items at the grocery store because they get moved all the time but I don't just shove a list in an employee's face because it's not polite. I'd just straight up ask them to show me where they are so I'd know for next time.
Since I'm the youngest of 4, I get often mistaken for any of my siblings' son. It's hilarious. Yes, I do have nieces and nephews who are older than me. So, it'd be hilarious if someone tried attacking any of them. The next oldest is 69. Oh, and, yeah, he happens to be a multiple black belt. My two older sisters have their ways with handling people. One has the "dad stare". It's the kind of thing that makes even adults back down in fear of a butt getting tanned. The other has years of experience with repairing farm equipment and for a thin frame has more than enough muscle to hogtie anyone who decides to unleash on her. As for me, I have some professional diplomacy that I prefer to use.
I feel like an extremely understanding, observant and intelligent person in society when I hear these stories. Lol
I would have sued Karen for therapy for my sister. Get the right lawyer and doctor, you could get thousands for your sister
Karen calm down it’s just bread, what a good big brother, she doesn’t work there Karen and there’s no need to bring a nasty language, I feel so sorry for his sister,
Employee or not you do not grab people by their hair I don’t care who you are .
In the fourth story if that happened to me I would have tackled that woman to the ground if she tried to grab my sister's hair.
If someone wants to charge me with assault for defending myself, you can bet I'm going to EARN that charge! I'm 5' tall, 55 years old with PTSD from an abusive childhood. I go out of my way to avoid confrontation, but if someone insists, that's on them.
"The car needs to be serviced not me"..Priceless!!
"Your car needs to be serviced, not me."
bruh-- 😭😂😂
Adopted Sister Story: If I had been in OP's place, they WOULD need to call both the Police (for me) and an Ambulance (for Karen) as the moment Karen grabbed my Sister's hair, I'd have grabbed Karen by the neck and done my absolute best to throw her through the nearest wall of the store...The way I'd haul Karen away from my Sister in preparation to throw her would be designed to snap her neck like a twig so they might have to replace the Ambulance with the Coroner's Van...
I'm not generally a Violent person, but you Attack my Friends or Family and I lose all sense of Sanity, Restraint and Humanity...I turn into something that would scare even the Hulk in full Rage Mode...
In Dungeons and Dragons terms, my Alignment would instantly switch from Lawful Good to Chaotic Evil...
Don't fuck with my Friends and Family because I won't kill you...
I won't be NEARLY that nice to you...
My daughter was in a situation were screaming racism was used to cause a distraction. She picked up security tags off the floor by the fitting room. Didn't think whomever was still around. A customer immediately accused her of being racist and she's not a thief. Long story short my daughter defended the customer and the customer was the thief.
That's what I thought, it was a distraction from an her stealing.
"Your car needs to be serviced, not me." BRILLIANT!!
I used to work at a place stocking shelves. I would tell the new employees to beware the people who expected you to shop for them. "Where is the dish soap? Take me there! Show me!" Had some newbs not believe me until it happened to them, usually within 3 days of being hired in.
For story 4, OP was completely right in her order of actions. Sure the lady was waaaaaaay out of turn, and deservs to be punished. But first priority is to get S out of the stressfull situation, and into a safe environment. Getting her info, and calling the police later is absolutely the right move.
3rd story OP has good self control. Last time I was attacked from the back I instantly turned and uppercut-punched the aggressor.
I only registered the event one half second after the hit.
Whoops.
The story about the woman and her sister really warms my heart. That is such a beautiful bond.
I was also mistaken for a Walmart employee once. As soon as I explained I didn't work there. They apologized, I was able to help them anyway.
I'm raised by my parents to always help others in need, wether if it's asking directions or defending them from a racist tirade or assault. I WILL help those people and Karen would have gotten hurt for attacking a disabled person, you can bet on that. Karens, racists etc... make my blood boil. EDIT : i don't do well with sudden touches, especially from behind, that can make me black out and really hurt you. But then again, just don't grab strangers in general.
That's worse than the Dolmer defense: "My family was so mean to me, I had to eat that guy's eye balls "
That's 'Donner'. The family and party that tried to cross the Rockies on foot but, in desperation from starving, resorted to cannibalism. It's well known in the US even though it happened during the early years of settling in the Western areas.
@@kaithorenfawkes8312 no. Jeffrey Dolmer, serial killer that ate his victims
"I don't work here, I just drink a lot" I died right there 😂
Oh, I get so tired of the people who scream "Do you know who I am?"
My recommended answer, after a slow, contemptuous look up and down, is:
"I know *what* you are".
Ah cheers DarkFluff, you’ve brightened up my Saturday! Red weather alert in NE Scotland, I’m under 2 blankets and a duvet, have the heating on and thick clothes, it’s very cold! My friends house was almost hit by a falling tree, the neighbour nearby had a partial chimney collapse, properties have had roofs start coming off, so I’m hiding inside where I can try and stay warm, so you’ve made my Saturday a LOT better!!!
I listen to so many of these. A big big hug to all the OPS. I hug you, and the mistreated. It makes me sad how mistreated everyday people are Treated. You shouldn't have to endure this. No one should.
“Looking at me, the way a cow looks at an oncoming train” 🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
I literally almost just fell out of my wheelchair-that amount of unexpected laughter shook me so hard! 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂
YAY thank you! Fridays are always lonely without you and your content. I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend :)
I wish people wouldn't just walk away and let those who have assaulted them get off ... always press charges.
I work in a grocery store and I have had a few customers ask me to get stuff for them. Usually something they can't find on the shelf but occasionally something that is above/too deep for them to reach. The only one who has ever given me a list is the one woman in a wheelchair who shops with her 7 yo grand daughter and likes organic foods that are usually on the to shelf.
If someone assaulted a disabled family member like that, I would go both criminal and civil routes. The additional attention and therapy required to bring the sister back to baseline would be expensive and needs to be covered.
"If I was in that position, I would have noped out of there so fast" well that's the plus side about stories like this, you, and infact most folks don't have to worry about being in that position because we're not crazy karens xD
Yeah I have PTSD too, if a Karen grabbed me I wouldn’t be shouting tho, whenever I go through hyperarousal (fight or fight) my body picks flight and I’ll physically defend myself.
I have PTSD as well from emotional abuse as a child. I've been very fortunate to have not been triggered into a physical response before. At my current age (54)and physical condition, I would try not to strike out. I would find the nearest object and throw it at them, though. I can't run, either.
Sister of the year! Your sister is lucky to have such an amazing support system.
These stories are so crazy. I’ll be in Walmart looking for an employee for help. I’ll see a person in the Walmart vest, walk up, quietly say “excuse me” and sometimes they turn and walk away. My reaction is, “Ope! Guess I’ll go find someone else 🤷🏻♀️”
These karens are getting desperate for everything and anything, karens gonna karen though
What makes it sad is, imagine if all that Energy went to Good things.
Yes. ALL THE FREAKING TIME LOL. I worked retail for 14 years and I now work in a warehouse without customer interaction!
I am surprised at your reaction to the sister not wanting to wait for the cops. With the type of issue the little sister has, the most important thing is to very quickly get them into a safe environment so they can calm down. Remaining in the store for the police would only make the situation worse for her sister. But she did get all the information taken and called the police later to file a report.
Story 4: WTH, bread is in the same place in every (large) grocery store in America (last isle across or after the Dairy Stuff).
Not even close at Meijer. It's between the canned goods and the soft drink section.
In Lucky it’s in the isles next to or across from the PB&J, which is in the isle equidistant between the bakery and the frozen cases. All the factory bread is there.
Well when you call for a service call be sure the right crank gets shafted.. *snicker*
I was working at Rite Aid around 1999 on Christmas Eve. We were the biggest retailer for 40 miles in rural Northern California. So, we were crazy busy. The lines were like 15 people long. We also sold Christmas trees. There was something like 15 varieties. The customer had to remove the tag for the specific tree they wanted and bring it in to be rung up.
This young Karen is in my line and when it's her turn she says that she wants a tree. I told her the process. As she was leaving she asked if she could cut the line when she got her tag or so I thought. Being nice, I said I would allow it. While she was gone, I rang up 2 people and was finishing up with an elderly man. She comes back in screaming that I told her I'd wait for her. Um, no. So, I ring her up after I finished with the old man. After she pays, she asked about a rope to tie it to the top of her car. I told her that if we had any that it would be in aisle 10 (hardware). She screams that she should get rope for free. She demands that I look behind my counter. I'm at information where we stored tobacco. I was there nearly every day. I was quite aware of what was back there. I told her, "No." [Even if we had rope, I wouldn't be allowed to give it to her.] She yells/asks, "So, you're not even going to look?" Once again, I say, "No". She screams that she's going to call my manager and get me fired. I told her to go ahead.
The customers afterward expressed their sympathy. For the record, during the whole transaction with this woman, I kept the blandest look on my face and my voice was low key. One of the customers told me he would not have handled the situation so kindly.
The next day I worked my shift manager, Gary, asked what happened. After I explained, he said that's what he told the manager, Brett, probably happened. I never heard a thing more about it. Yeah, we dealt with some rude customers, but I never had someone other than her act so demanding. I never had someone push a grocery list in my face. It was always polite. I worked there for about a year.
Karen’s going to Karen until someone beats the Karen out of them. At some point you would think that by acting like that the only things that they are entitled to is a physical beating and jail time. At least that’s what I think fluff. Hopefully Steveo is enjoying the season and you are taking care of him
That's when my inner Madea comes out. For every Karen, there will be Madea.
I was once in a major department store, in a designer area of the store. I was actually wearing the designer blouses at the time. A Karen approached me asking for assistance. I'm sorry I don't work here. Her response was so funny, "You really shouldn't dress like that when you're shopping!" Cute. All I could say was, "Thank you so much!" Had a good chuckle over that one.
I find it so insane people are willing to grab complete strangers like that. I would turn elbows out the second someone dug their nails into my shoulder out of reflex
I was confronted by an I've get you fired Karen. I told her that while I was not an employee, she could not get me fired. She was, on the other hand, a customer. If she persisted, I'd see that she was blacklisted from ever shopping in that store again.
Having worked retail for 19 years (finally got out just before 2020), I can say yes...some people do come up and give you a list expecting you to get their stuff, though it was not very common. Now in some of their defense they may be disabled in some form. The place I worked had some people who would handle such things. But as a general rule we declined and just gave them back their list telling them where things were. It was not a grocery store or anything as large as Wal-Mart or Target and didn't carry such a variety of randomness. So that could play into the infrequent times that we encountered it.
On the other subject of people just assuming you work places and not taking your word that you don't. I've had people assume I worked somewhere but in every situation they've acknowledged their mistake and went on their way. Sometimes you just have the body language and presence that makes you look like you "belong" and I suspect that's what confuses them.
I have no idea why anyone who actually did work for an establishment would lie about it. I would presume all the retail companies would have some rule on the books that doing so would lead to discipline and/or termination. The place I worked certainly did. So nobody in their right mind would dare try that, unless they were trying to get terminated.
"I don't work here lady" stories are my favorite. There's just something crazy about people who are so entitled that they can't accept the notion that they had made a mistake. Karens are crazy.
Nah, they're psychotic.
Your car needs to be serviced, not me. What a legend.
I’m a seven-year retail employee, the only times I’ve had someone give me a list or show me their phone with a screenshot is when they are buying something for someone else and either the person with the list/photo doesn’t know if we carry it or has no idea what it is.
My grandmother has done this before when trying to find Christmas/birthday gifts and she will write down what we want or have us write it and she’ll ask an employee if they know what it is and where to find it, but she does it very politely as she worked retail for 30+years
I normally just sit back and joy the stories, but you asked people in retail if customers just shove a list into your face and demand that you get the items for them. Yes, customers do it all the time. Thank you for the enjoyable stories Darkfluff and Steveo!
Going straight into an exam and what better way to calm your nerves than Fluff and Stevo giving you the best of Karens getting shut down. 🤣🤣🤣🤣