Jack the Ripper: The Evidence for Guilt. Part Four
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This is the fourth episode where Edward Stow examines the trail of guilt pointing to Charles Lechmere as being the man known to history as Jack the Ripper. In this episode Edward Stow follows established investigative practices by delving into this suspect's family background to see if Charles Lechmere had an reasons to have grievances or triggers that might have influenced his behaviour. Despite being raised in one of the poorest districts in London, Charles Lechmere had close connections to the landed gentry.
With thanks to Gary Barnett for researching some of the family background details and to Mike Pemberton for the colourisation of the Charles Lechmere photograph.
Mike's UA-cam channel can be found here: / @pembysgamingworld
For further information check out these films:
Part 1 of the Evidence for Guilt
• Jack the Ripper: The E...
Part 2 of the Evidence for Guilt
• Jack the Ripper: The E...
Part 3 of the Evidence for Guilt
• Jack the Ripper: The E...
Lechmere and the Whitechapel Murders Part 1 ( Annie Millwood, Ava Wilson, Emma Smith and Martha Tabram)
• Lechmere and the White...
Lechmere and the Whitechapel Murders Part 2 (Polly Nichols and Annie Chapman)
• Lechmere and the White...
Lechmere and the Whitechapel Murders Part 3 (Liz Stride and Catherine Eddowes)
• Lechmere and the White...
Lechmere and the Whitechapel Murders Part 4 (Mary Jane Kelly)
• Lechmere and the White...
Lechmere and the Whitechapel Murders Part 5 (Annie Farmer, Rose Mylett, Alice Mckenzie, the Pinchin Street Torso and Francis Coles)
• Lechmere and the White... to the House of Lechmere
Absolutely outstanding!
Thank you kindly!
I find this family history episode quite mesmerising. You are a wonderful narrator - your love of history is inspiring, and although I used to steer clear of JtR accounts, because of the horrible violence to those poor women, I am captivated by your documentaries, partly because you treat the victims with dignity as well as your amazing research.
Wooo been waiting for this!
Excellent!!
Combining two of my abiding interests: true crime (which started 40 years ago with JTR and Victorian crimes) and genealogy. Brilliant content, Edward! Thank you for all your research and great presentation!
I had been watching Richard Jones' Jack the Ripper Tours channel, and I had come across your channel by chance. When I saw the title, "House of Lechmere" I clicked instantly! I was not disappointed!! I've had an interest in the Whitechapel murders for a few decades, especially after watching "Murder by Decree" as a little kid and the woefully inaccurate Jack the Ripper TV miniseries with Michael Caine and Lewis Collins (R.I.P) When I was 12 in 1988. The more I thought about the case, it occurred to me that out of all the fantastical theories and steaming piles of conjecture that goes with them. I always saw that image of Jack the Ripper with the top hat, cape, bag, and big knife as stupid! He would have looked like an ordinary bloke, the Top hat image meant he would have stuck out like a sore arse at an orgy!! It had to be simpler than that, and when I saw the documentary "Jack the Ripper; the missing evidence!" And Christer Holmgen's assertion of Lechmere, it suddenly made sense! Kosminski, Tumelty, and even Frederick Bailey Deeming seemed too far-fetched and full of inaccuracies. The simple solution has been there in the annals of Ripper history all this time! It had to have been Lechmere! Awesome channel, I love it!!!
Thanks
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 You're very welcome!!
Just came across your channel while watching jack the ripper your with Richard 👍
Welcome!
A very interesting episode. 👍🏻
Brilliant work Eddy So much work you have done here. With the history. There is a great great chance he is Jack the Ripper. Thanks for posting
Many thanks!
Absolutely ludicrous indeed.
Excellent 👍
If it takes Days or Weeks !! I’ll watch every History Lesson that you Produce Sir Thank You So Much 🙏✅🥂
Awesome Lechmere Family Tree Research, Edward😀👐
Thank you kindly
Brilliant, I can't wait for further episodes❤️🙏👍
Excellent .Having done some research into my own family history (which incidentally also has a Hereford connection) I can appreciate how time consuming and difficult such an undertaking is. To then present that information in a clear and structured way ,even more so. Looking forward to you expanding on this fascinating story .
Thank you
This is my favourite episode so far
I'm glad you liked it
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Very interesting information. As to 'evidence of guilt' - you're too Ridiculous.
@bethryan9077
Make sure you watch every single episode. Ideally back to back so you don't forget any details.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 I have watched all your episodes & I'll put it another way for ya - your thought processes are Ridiculous.
@bethryan9077
10/10 for attainment... if you have watched all 51 (so far).
Obviously your score will diminish considerably if you only watched the 'Evidence for Guilt' series.
For Achievement only 1/10 and I'm being generous.
Your debating skills would hardly gain you entry into the Oxford Union, even on a bad year.
You need to develop your arguments better, give examples, quote contemporary sources, that sort of thing.
Fascinating and such thorough research. Made sure I’ve subscribed 👍
Great work Edward, it all puts pieces together 👍
More to come!
Thank you as always for such a fascinating channel. It's very much appreciated.
This^^
Fair play to you for stretching this out mate to make a good channel out of it. I suspect eventually the material will be exhausted.
Not for a long time?
Most thorough family tree investigation and revelation, magnificent work Ed, we need to get down to the bottom of it all, why CAL perpetrated his horrific path and also to what might have been his motivation of the horrendous crimes, financial frustration, being shunned out of family wealth could possibly have been a contribution to it all but not necessarily the core or main reason. This family background research video part four is most intriguing, please keep it coming, Thank you
Thanks
EXCELLENT
Many thanks!
What thorough research and a wonderful presentation of it. Well done, Edward. How have I lived in East London for almost a decade and have never heard the Tiger Bay reference is beyond me. I have learned so much from your channel. Many thanks to all that bring this together! A handsome host doesn't hurt either. 😊
You are very kind
And keep watching. I have covered loads of East End general history along the way.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Excellent. Something to look forward to.
Yet another interesting video.Thankyou for sharing this Ed.Keep up the good work on this.
I wonder if he ever reached out to his real father ? His family background gives us some motivation and insight into his makeup. He must have felt aggrieved at being the only branch of the family to live in poverty. Perhaps he felt he didn't belong in the east end and grew to despise the slums and the people who lived there. His sense of injustice at his lot in life, being abandoned by his father, seeing his mother bigamously marry a younger guy, more in the age range of a big brother than a dad, must have affected him. There's a lot going on in Lechmere's background.
And let’s not forget that he was brought up in one of the most notorious red light districts in the East End - Tiger Bay. His stepfather had to deal with the local ‘Tigresses’ and their male protectors on a daily basis. How would his mother have warned her adolescent son against these people?
Ditto, Bob. I've been pondering the same questions, particularly after seeing Edward's interviews with Christer Holmgren and reading "Cutting Point". There is al LOT going on there. It would be fascinating to hear what a professional 'profiler' might make of it all.
There is a lot of food for thought here
The more you dig up about this man and his family the more it points to him being Jack me personally and a am nobody's fool am totally convinced it is 💯👌 great work my friend 👏👏
Thanks
Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address.
The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool-Aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
Thank you for your research. Intriguing.
Glad you enjoyed it
Very interesting watch, thanks. For one moment I thought you were going to tie Copped Hall Into it all.
Well spotted
Magnificent research I'm very impressed and can't wait till the next one. You should post 2 videos next and call them the double event. How Gary and you found out so much is mind blowingly awesome. Thanks Edward
Thank you
Better and better. The mystery deepens. Thanks for the hard work and dedication. Special thanks for putting things under the right light. We're step by step getting closer to the complex and sinister mind hidden behind the squalor of Whitechapel. The layers of protection, expertly placed more than a hundred years ago by the same evil mind, begin to crumble. Brilliant, captivating and addictive.The man was so feared that even in death some didn't want to rest in his vicinity
Firstly, there is Zero evidence that Cross was Charles Lechmere. Next - now that Andrew CROSS has Identified himself to a witness & a Cop, he attends the Inquest so More cops & More people can Identify the man who was first at the scene of the vicious Knife murder & yet he continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours in the coming Weeks going after more women & doing the same & much worse. Really?
I’m from Hereford, and this is wild!!
Jack the Ripper - made in Hereford
Great research 👍
Interesting! I'm looking forward to your future videos about the Lechmeres. And yes, JtR must have been driven by very strong/disturbed emotions to commit the deeds he did. That sense of resentment and frustration your're describing fits in very well to that I think.
Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address.
The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool-Aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
You sir are the best excellent knowledge
So nice of you
Fascinating. Thanks for all your work. I grew up in Whitechapel and I can see how much it's changed. My memories from the 60's make it easier to imagine the Ripper period, Bucks Row was still very sinister in those days. By the way, my great grandmother has the middle name of Allen. Perhaps it was quite common? Or perhaps I'm related to Lechmere! Crikey!
Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address.
The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool-Aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
I'm very much looking forward to your next video on the Lechmere locales in the East End. I live the USA but my grandmother grew up on St. Leonards Road in Poplar and met a US soldier in London in 1943 and married him (my grandfather). She moved to the US in 1946 and the rest is history, as they say. She died in 2013 at age 88.
Ah ha - I know St Leonards Road
Your grandfather - "Overpaid, oversexed and over here". As the British servicemen used to say about the Yanks! 😂
"squirearchy" 😂very good
What’s so funny? It’s an actual word.
How amazing... painstaking research....well worth it though, so Lechmere was from the gentry...a fallen man.. excellent work Edward
Glad you enjoyed it
One of the Worlds most puzzling mysteries--SOLVED !
Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address.
The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool-Aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
Great work. Keep it up. Thank you.
Thanks, will do!
Another great video.
Not that it has any particular impact on the case but it is more of a psychological observation.
Lechmere is a very uncommon surname, yet as we see they were a landed family, a member of which was a MP at the time of the murders.
I think it is quite possible that Lechmere used the surname Cross at the inquest out of embarrassment at the thought that his lowly status might come to the attention of his wealthy relatives had he given his legal name and it be reported in the press. Cross is a surname that can be easily forgotten.
This is extremely interesting and fills in some context of the Lechmere family. I will point out that the lines "Nothing in my hands I bring, simply to the cross I cling," is a lyric from the hymn Rock of Ages.
Thank you - I didn't know that
This illuminates my prior musings on naming conventions and his mental state. The frustrated sense of entitlement must have grated on his mind his whole life.
Absolutely!
Stop drinking the Kool-Aid.
@@bethryan9077stop being negative and commenting your bile on everything.
Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address.
The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool-Aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
@@vjc2270 There is Zero evidence that someone by the name of Lechmere, was Charles A. Cross.
love this!!!!
I dont no if resentment is enough to blame a killing spree in 1888 for this man ,he seemed like a hard worker and bad things happened around him .
Good point.
....."Who'd have thought there'd be a connection between JtR and the battle of Trafalgar!!, Oh and the titled nobility" 😂😂😂😂 🤦
Which member of the titled nobility? 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Do we know what educational background is?
Really excellent. Thank you. Personally i can't wait for you to get your hands on Lechmere's mother, figuratively speaking, to see if there's any blood on her hands. I think it's going to be nearly impossible to prove anything relating to any knowledge or suspicion she may have had regarding her son's murderous activities. But i look forward to seeing what you dredge up.
I'm astounded as to why people buy into his Crap.
In those days he might have changed his name to cross. To save his family name from shame.
Hello Edward, interesting video! Does the name Lechmere sound French to you? I hope Jamie is feeling better. Cheers!
I think it is Flemish in origin
I'm confused. I thought this got uploaded the other day?
Either that or I'm a very very confused ....
The other version didn't load onto UA-cam properly
Interesting.
As an historian of religion, I found the myth/legend of the pelican very fascinating. :)
These are so good, so enjoyable. They are well throughout and the information is top notched.
Thank you for your hard work on such a great mystery,presented so wonderfully.
Thank you very much!
Just an incredibly well researched and incredibly narrated video! Amazing Work! This was so invigorating!!
Thanks!
Thanks for this research, a fascinating series of videos. Buck's Row was on my walking commute to work for 10 years. So is the implication that Charles Fox Lechmere was impulsive and perhaps not trusted with money? Was this perhaps an early indicator of traits that Charles Allen Lechmere would inherit?
Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address.
The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool-Aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
The sense of disgrace could explain Lechmere’s use of a false name.
If innocent where was his disgrace? He started businesses on his real name
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 I suspect that a business at that time would have its prospects improved by a posh name. He may have felt the social failure in talking to officials when attired as a cartman. But of course I’m just speculating.
@@davethebrahman9870
I doubt many residents in Mile End Old Town associated Lechmere with being a posh name, nor would they be particularly aware that there were posh Lechmere's.
A most interesting hsitorical video.
Brilliant. I like how you take time to step back and really dig into the profile, psychology and family history of Charles Lechmere. I hope this in-depth work you’re doing can be put into a volume of books that close the case once and for all. Also… why hasn’t Hollywood taken up this story as a new look into Jack the Ripper case…? Time for ripperologists to finally come to terms with this evidence.
Ohhh - I would love to see a dramatisation of the Lechmere story, but preferably as a British film. Hollywood tends to glamourise too much (e.g. all the victims would be played by 20-year-old starlets in extravagant dresses). I'd also like to see another good Lechmere documentary - Jack the Ripper documentaries are a dime a dozen and most of them just recycle to same old material. There's been nothing on Lechmere since the fabulous Christer Holmgren documentary in 2011 - time to present all the new evidence! 😀
Hollywood beckons
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Hollywood? It will be another woke Cleopatra style disaster if they got their hands on this story. Aberline played by Denzel Washington perhaps? Lechmere played by Samuel L Jackson....I'll stop now.🤪
@@thehouseoflechmere9407hi ed,i know we disagree alot,but ur research is great,im enjoying hearing more about lechmere and his past and distant relatives and their connections,history etc. Thank you.
@@leslierock5005
Thank you - keep watching!
Very interesting background story! As always a pleasure to listen to. On a critical note: the title does not really cover the content as I don't see any evidence for guilt in this video. 🙃
There are four indicators here - and when building a psychological profile of a suspect it is common practice - in real life cases as in Ripperology, to do this.
For example with Kosminski his Jewish background in Poland being a cause of resentment against society.
In this video we have the potential psychological impact of the pelican myth, his comparative poverty on contrast to family wealth, the lack of knowledge by his descendants about his involvement in the case, and his infatuation with Lechmere family names when he called himself Cross at the inquest.
Quite a lot of material I would suggest.
Imo just the best thing in this series is how Ed has managed to build the full picture of this guy Charles allen lechmere allowing viewers to build a profile in their minds and to form an intuition of the guilt based on the background of the guy and the possible motives which drove him to become a serial killer of prostitutes. I take the title as "high likely guilt" not an absolute guilt
I am so engrossed in your videos...the factual evidence and detail is exceptional.
Glad you like them!
Just wondering, maybe it's of interest ? Fownhope to the next village Much Marcle, Herefordshire, is a distance of 7 miles if you travel via 'charlie' FOX HALLS lane and the Cherry Orchard .. home once to the infamous serial killer Fred & his wife Rose West. Imagine walking up and down the same lane each day to work, totally different time frames but similar spaces.
Blimey
Edward, there is an interview that you did about a year or 2 ago here on UA-cam, but it looks like it has been removed! Do you have that link please ?
www.mostnotorious.com/2020/08/31/was-charles-lechmere-jack-the-ripper-w-edward-stow/
Thanks!!!
@keredsilloc4095
It was taken off UA-cam for some strange reason
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 strange 🤔? 🤔
@@keredsilloc4095 censorship
Another wonderful education for all of us. Thank you for the time you put into these.
Admiralty to carman; yeah, I'd be pissed.
Holmgrens book was too short, yours shud be 600 pages + with all the family information you've found.
A wonder if the Scudamores you mention are related to the Scudamores involved in horse racing
No idea!
The pelican sacrificing itself for ots chicks is on the state flag of Louisiana, of all places!
Is there any descriptions or early photos? of what Charles looked like as in attire & hair style and any facial hair as beard or mustache.
At the time of 1888 -Victorian period
From his family descendants or in written newspapers of the time?
In a word - no
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 i watched online here perhaps of a AI ( i believe) of Charles de-aging,
i wondered if police have this technology to do the same?
be interesting to see from the one photo of Charles in his garden at old age.
By professional police work.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 What a shame. That might have gone some way in giving an indication as to whether he's a viable fit for the witness descriptions (particularly those on the night of the double event, which I regard as the most reliable). If I were to venture a hypothesis, again on the assumption CAL is the culprit, then perhaps he was too canny to get his mug caught on camera? His photo as an old man depicts him with full facial hair but does not give a clear enough indication about his other facial features, which could be precisely the point. Anonymity through obscurity. Even with this limitation, his face is sufficiently broad as per witness testimony, and I have often wondered about John Best's statement to the *Evening* *News* (London)** about what he claimed to have seen on the night of the Elizabeth Stride murder -- especially the bit about the eyes missing some eyelashes, which could indicate the killer had a condition known as madarosis.
The reason this possible clue interests me is because it was reported by Mary Ann Cox that she thought she had seen Mary Jane Kelly on the night in question with a man whose overall appearance (including the billycock hat, AKA, "bowler") matches John Best's testimony and added to it another interesting detail: this man had blotches on his face. Some people may not know this, but madarosis -- that is, the loss of eyelashes and/or eyebrows -- is a condition that is often associated with a dermatological condition known as seborrhoeic dermatitis, a condition which, you guessed it, causes one to have blotchy skin about the face. If CAL was also an alcoholic (remembering that Mary Ann Cox said the man was carrying a can of beer), then there's a chance this was him as there's between a 7 and 11 per cent chance that an alcoholic will develop seborrhoeic dermatitis; the condition itself also usually begins in puberty and peaks around the age of 40, which is within the age range CAL would have been at the time of the Whitechapel murders. Other than the obvious reason of self-knowledge of his own premeditated guilt, if Jack the Ripper did have both these conditions, then this could be one more reason why the killer tried to hide his face and only gave sidelong glances into the premises.†
On the basis of the above, is any evidence that Charles Allen Lechmere might: 1. Have been an alcoholic; 2. Had seborrhoeic dermatitis; and, 3. As a consequence of 2., also had madarosis? I know the answer is most probably negative given your other statements on related matters, Edward, but even if that's the case, what are your thoughts concerning these diverse witness statements?
Anyway, I came back to this comment because @milchmanuk sparked a bit of curiosity by reminding me of these witness reports. Sorry it is so long.
** Personally, I do not dismiss this man's witness statement as he does seem to have gotten a very good eyeball of the man Elizabeth Stride was canoodling with and even supposedly told her 'that's Leather Apron getting round you', after which they disappeared in a shot, and further stated that the 'man was no foreigner; he was an Englishman right enough.' The fact she actually did turn up dead must have really shaken him when he found out about it.
† This, too, is common to witness statements. How reliable those statements are is subject to discussion, but this is common enough to indicate the suspect -- whomever he really was -- was self-conscious enough to not like being looked at, perhaps even going beyond the point of simply not wishing to be identified to also include some identifying medical condition. I'm speculating, of course, but I do wonder.
Is it just me, but aren't there rather a lot of convenient deaths connected with this family. 😂
Indeed
If Lechmere really is responsible for the murders, then the name John - the lack of it in his children's names - is quite significant, in that it shortens to Jack.
Jack was always used as a sobriquet for the common person… Jack and the beanstalk, Jack and Jill, Jack Frost, every man Jack, jack o lantern, Jack in a box Jack of all trades, steeple jack, lumber Jack etc
I wonder if Charles had any personal connection with these more distant relatives.
I certain he did
Whats the music at the beginning
Bach
Errr, the theme to Jackanory ??
Did Lechmere receive any financial support from his relatives to start or maintain his own business? Did he work as a carman at the same time as he operated his own business? Is there any information about his business activities from contemporary sources?
He almost certainly received inheritances. He worked as a carman while running at least two businesses.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 Is there any information on how many hours Lechmere spent on his daily work journey?
No
Is his background, Dial A Friend for a cosy bath?
In french and Norwegian
In french and Norwegian
Is that an anagram?
As much as I find this interesting I still the most of the evidence is just circumstantial and Charles Alan lechmere wasn’t Jack the Ripper, I could be wrong and he has an interesting history either way, defiantly worth watching
The nature of this case is that evidence will necessarily be circumstantial.
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 very true, I think most of the evidence for each suspect is circumstantial, I just find it strange how the murders suddenly stopped and the police stopped looking for the ripper, I think the police had a good idea who it was but couldn’t prove it
Absolutely brilliant! Entitlement and resentment: their importance can't be overstated. Thank you Edward (and Gary) so much for all your meticulous research. Can't wait for the next episode! Will you consider the trend for "marrying down", which seems to have begun with the boot maker marrying the daughter of a servant (although the position of butler is at the top of the service heirarchy) and continued with Charles Alan marrying an illiterate woman from the East End? Maybe it contributed to CAL's distaste for 'low women', particularly if he valued his wealthier and presumably more refined aunts. Just a thought.
Interesting thoughts
Randolph,Gull,police chief
Lots of people died around the Letchmeres. I would not have married one of them for "love nor money".
Chance would be a fine thing
The cut mark on his face is pretty conspicuous; wonder what the story behind that is. Could picture him engaging in some self harm out of self loathing for not being able to control his urges.. kinda reminiscent of the pelican in his family crest.
Excellent work. As a military history buff I particularly enjoyed the connection to the Battle of Trafalgar. Didn't see that one coming.
Cheers Ed.
I was going to go into more detail about Trafalgar!
Oh that would have been great. Maybe another time? I'll look forward to that.
Jack The Ripper has a "connection" to the battle of Trafalgar????? hahahahahaha
@@jimlewis2395
Yes indeed
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 LOL Like I said pal, you are definitely one clever guy, with this whole Lechmere fantasy You can pretty much put EVERYTHING on him, huh?. I bet you could make a video about how Lechmere was the one who kidnapped the Lindbergh baby and it would be interesting to watch and people would believe you
Lol theyre all called Charles
Stop calling Charles Lechmere Jack the Ripper, you're doing nothing but making an even bigger Numpty of yourself.
Hear hear 👏 😂
Ed is perfectly entitled to call lechmere a JTR suspect. Although I am sceptical that the case is proven, both Ed and Christer do put forward credible theories. I personally would not have wanted to name Lechmere because I think futher research is necessary to back up the main theory. Credit should however be given where credit is due. The approach taken in their research and reasoning has led at the very least to new thinking on the Nicholls case and therefore to the other cases. Let's not get petty about this at the end of the day I think we would all like to see this "cold case" solved if only to give the victims the peace and justice they deserved.
@@wattyler2994 Well, yes, agreed, perfectly entitled to suggest Lechmere as a JtR subject, and, if that's all they had done, I wouldn't have commented on their opinion. However, they don't put forward a strong enough case to suggest that Cross/Lechmere is a viable suspect,... They insist that He categorically, definitely WAS JtR, and they use a good deal of modern conjecture and supposition to do it!.
I understand, and Lord knows, am familiar with some people who cannot reason with the seemingly too simple , brutal truth of such events as the Whitechapel murders, the assassination of Jack Kennedy, the absolute tragedy that was the death of Marilyn etc and that some people become utterly overwhelmed and overtaken by such events that they absolutely must find a solution to the mystery, or cause of an event in order to satisfy their curiosity and sense of control and closure
To some, that is enough and having satisfied themselves that they know the truth and it really doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. However, there are some who do not find their final theory satisfies their "itch" , and seek affirmation and acceptance from others that they are right. This is the firmament in which most of our ardent and delusional 'Conspiracy Theorists ' are created. Mind you, that doesn't address the cause of all whacky ideas and theories!, There's always those who pursue their ideas and theories purely for the revenue!!. Nobody, NOBODY, knows who JtR was .
And NOBODY, ever, EVER will.
@@wattyler2994 Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address.
The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool-Aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
Only twisted minds would think that this case is going to be solved. How old are you? 10?
@@wattyler2994 Firstly, there is No evidence let alone Proof, that Cross lived at that address & so, no Proof that Cross is Lechmere. An inquest document online - Chas. Andrew Cross. The fact of the matter is - no killer, let alone a Knife killer, would approach a witness who has Seen him now, then walks away chatting with him & then makes himself Known to the Cops. Then, continues skulking around the streets in the early morning hours when Many people know he was on the scene of that victim & he is Known to More of the cops because he did go to the inquest. Even if Cross is actually Lechmere, who lived in Whitechapel his whole life & worked at Pickfords for over 20 years, then he is Well Known to loads of locals & work colleagues & as a carman, also business associates. A couple of Morons make a doc & fooltube videos putting about that - he continued walking the streets in the black early morning hours for Weeks & carried on approaching prostitutes In Front of people & did the killings with the same & much worse MO. LOL. Really??
All the jibber jabber about 'times' for 3 cops & 2 other men is boring as all hell Childish friggin Bunk, nobody will Ever get it sorted. 5 men have No Idea what time they were where. End of. Each one says a time, each newspaper states various times & Christer made up His own time to suit his stupidass 'theory' about a guy by the name of Charles A. Cross & Christer does Not Know his home address. Putting modern font on a page with 1888 newspaper headers above, is Not proof of Cross' home address.
The professional hypnotist Stealthy Eddy Stow has made up His own 'times' to suit His mind numbing Gobshite & repeats it all over & over as his Brainwashing tactic. LOL.
There most certainly Were other males who came across other of the bodies.
Cross sure Did raise the alarm Straight Away, he did Not keep walking on down the road. It is very understandable considering the Times & the conditions for that area in 1888, that when he saw a woman who lay prone on the ground, his thoughts went to someone who had maybe been attacked & as there were lots of prostitutes who roamed around in the early morning hours, he was very well aware that would be the case & as they were known to Drink, his first thoughts did not turn to murder. If I was a male back then in Whitechapel, I sure as hell would Not have wanted to be the male to try & wake her up at 3.30 a.m., all by myself, at the very least, in whatever state, she could have just started screaming. He did Nothing wrong.
I do Not believe the Rubbish from Holmgren or Stow, both dopes who think they are smarter than all the police involved including Inspector Abberline from Scotland Yard who was brought in after the murder of Mary Ann Nichols, as he knew Whitechapel very well.
And BTW - in regards to Nichols, there were Two cuts to her throat plus 2 stabs to the vagina, several stabs & cuts to the abdomen causing the Bowels to Protrude through the abdomen. Now you are Informed of the basics, pleease don't carry on as if there would have been no blood on that friggin Knife, or anywhere else. In the black of night down that road with high buildings both sides, the killer would Not have Known about blood on his person, clothes or shoes. End of.
And FYI - Mary Ann had bruises on her face And on her hands, meaning, she put up a Fight.
And people are drinking the Kool-Aid no matter the lunacy of the dumb as dog doo ‘reasoning’ behind the blather. Jeez.
No evidence of guilt in this video I guess
It’s exploring his background and upbringing which can detail cause and effect for the psychological development of somebody capable of committing serial murders. A child’s upbringing is incredibly important in explaining what drives killers down the path they end up on which is still important circumstantial evidence when viewed in its totality.
This is simply what building a case against a suspect is, it’s looking at all of information available and showing that the suspect was indeed capable of committing the crimes they are charged or suspects with,
@@ItsSVO I would not call psychology evidence
@@Meine.Postma I would call it circumstantial evidence in a case because it’s been used as such in many serial killer trials over the years. Their backgrounds are always researched and presented to show how they came to able to commit murder of such a horrendous nature. It was done with bundy, it was done with Kemper, it was done with BTK… the list goes on and on.
You clearly need to research what circumstantial evidence is, why and how it’s important in a case and how heavily it’s weighted in a court room.
@@ItsSVO It would maybe explain their deeds but it would not prove it
@@Meine.Postma Of course not because that’s not what circumstantial evidence does.
When I told you to go and research what circumstantial evidence is and how it’s applied it was for this very reason. If you’d have done that you’d have found that there is very rarely ever irrefutable proof of a crime outright otherwise there would be no need for trials to take place.
Most murders aren’t caught on camera therefore how can we prosecute them and prove a suspect is guilty? That’s correct, we gather all the circumstantial evidence together which then shows who it was and why.
'The evidence for guilt, Part 4' and still absolute Zero evidence. Just weak speculation like
- maybe he had a dominant mother
- maybe he visited his mother in the middle of the night
- maybe he was a skilled butcher (because years later his mother sold catfood)
......quite funny (but well presented).
- maybe he supported Millwall (we know they are brutal).
It goes to show that you can't please everyone
@@thehouseoflechmere9407 You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
@@bethryan9077 By any standards today, this would have investigated much more, which is what he is doing. Who are your suspects?
Who on Earth would put an infanticidal mother on their family crest? Even if it's a pelican and she supposedly fixes the whole thing through self-mutilation...
Yes it's a weird story to embrace