@@breaseeee70 I don’t see it as sad, more positive tbh. I think sim racing could be a good virtual recording of old tracks when they disappear in real life, thanks to laser scans etc. We can race old cars on new tracks, or new cars on old tracks, in a virtual world with limitless possibilities. Not the same as the real thing no, but better than mere black & white photos.
Happening already since the big earthquake in 2021 that landslided Ebisu and the owner decided it was not worth it to re asphalt and thus re‐converted Minami course to a dirt rallycross track.
Two F1 tracks from the top of my head come to mind: - Hockenheim (pre-2002 layout). Officially in any F1 game of the era, like Grand Prix 4. - Silverstone (the Bridge layout or old GP). iRacing.
Two reasons (actually three - Nurburgring with different Sector 1... and Magny Cours "old layout" (diffferent final chicane part). why I always have F1 99-02 installed on my computer. Even if just for 2-3 laps a month. "Nostalgia".
Ebisu circuit and the old Fuji circuit layouts in Japan would be neat to feature. Fuji from the 80s is easy to access in Gran Turismo, but older than that I'm not sure. Ebisu in particular is intresting since its featured as a drift track in some games, but in racing configuration it's much rarer.
Ontario Motor Speedway, arguably the world's first "supertrack" that hosted Indy car, NASCAR, IMSA, drag racing and the one-off F1 vs. F5000 Questor Grand Prix, was in Papyrus' "NASCAR Legends" (even though Ontario's first NASCAR race was in 1971, one year after the season in which the game was set).
4:41 Riverside also exists in a remade form in some of the EA Nascar games! It's called the Old Spice or Boulder circuit. It has more banking and is run in the opposite direction, but it's still a really neat tribute.
As someone who lives in Curitiba and went to the track, a couple of times it's sad to see the track go away. I was practically crying seeing images of it. Definitely deserved better
Rockingham is a track based in the UK which was an oval track. It later turned into a car park. Live For Speed has a laser scanned version of the track preserving the track.
Great shout! Rockingham was a mega circuit, I raced there in real life a few times too, such a good flow to it. We covered it in our first video if you want to check that out, although since then we have given it a go on LFS :) - ua-cam.com/video/iep3leu85ws/v-deo.html
Longfords '67 setting comes from it original recreation for Grand Prix Legends. Gorgious in rF2. Hearing of the loss of Curitiba saddened me. Won't cry for Adria though. Yeah and Pukekohe was real fun.
Thank you so so much for including and Talking about Pukekohe. It is my home circuit. I grew up around Motorsport, and was there as a kid to now (27). I finally had the opportunity to drive full speed of one of their track days. She was and still is an amazing circuit. Our last race is the end of the year, which will be a huge send off with 10 class including Super Trucks.
That will be so bittersweet. Crazy to think about it all, but sadly that's the reality for so many circuits over the years🙁 I don't know the area at all but hopefully there is another circuit you can call home!
@TraxionGG Hampton Downs is the track, but Pukie will always be home. And she was unique, I'd you tried to rebuild the exact some track elsewhere, you will never get it right. The bumps down the front straight and through turn 1, Ford mountain etc. And she's also the fastest Drifting track in the southern Hemispheres, clocked at 205kph entry
Curitiba is punch in the gut for the brazilian racing. The track is awesome to race both in real and sim racing, a bunch of people rallied so it wouldn’t be demolished but to no use, it’s really saddening to see it go.
I also remember very well Enna Pergusa from GTR2. Incredible fast track with intimidating chicanes, that hosted FIA GT and F3000. I loved that track. That's why when I had the opportunity to travel to Sicily a few years ago, I entered the circuit (it was open for everyone) and when walking through the kerbs of the first turn, childhood memories came to me. As for the track, when I went there it was abandoned but I think a few years ago the 24h series run in there.
Seeing all these tracks being preserved in these old games even without the benefit of mods is really awesome. I'd love to see a video on unique modded circuits eventually, but this is a great selection of official stuff regardless.
I'm always filled with tears when i here about racetracks being demolished for property. If only motorsport wasn't that expensive to compete in I'm pretty sure many tracks would have been saved. I'm curious about the cost of track days and how they work, but even so, just a 20min go-kart race with hired karts is out of my budget range, sadly
The game Nascar Legends from 1999 is based off the 1970 Nascar Cup Series and has the since abandoned tracks of Riverside, Ontario Motor Speedway, and Texas World Speedway.
Another track that qualifies is the Detroit Grand Prix circuit, also known as the Belle Isle Circuit. With racing in Detroit going back around the Rennaissance Center this year, the Belle Isle circuit will no longer be used. Fortunately, it's on iRacing for future virtual racing.
I have been to Jacarapegua and Curitiba to watch a lot of different races, from Indycar to WTCC, as well as Brazilian Stock Car, Porsche Cup and so on. Curitiba in particular was a very special place for me to go. It was a bit depressing seeing these two Brazilian tracks in the list. At least we can still enjoy them in Automobilista.
Great stuff! I enjoyed 1000's of laps of the version of Riverside that was converted from GPL to race in the GTP Mod for Nascar2003. I used to drive by that shopping center every few months. There is a commemorative plaque in the parking lot of the Shopping Center, so some of its' history is still intact. The original Marquee was present for years, just with Home Depot Advertising, etc. on it.
I think everyone loved Curitiba on Race 07, I am also guessing because it was the first race of the season, it was the one that we all played the most 😂 Also, the Porto circuit was crazy!
@@TraxionGG Porto was crazy! I still play Race 07 from time to time, and Brno has a special place too. But Curitiba takes the number one in my opinion!😅 Since I started playing Automobilista 1 and 2 I was so surprised to see how many cool and fun tracks Brazil had
And then there are the tracks still in use, but the layout has changed so much that it may as well be a different circuit, where the historic layouts have been preserved thanks to sims.
Myrtle Beach Speedway on iRacing down in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Myrtle Beach Speedway had some big names such as the Earnhardts (Ralph, Dale Sr., Dale Jr., and Kelley), the Pettys (Lee, Richard, Kyle, and Adam), and Jeff Gordon. They held a lot of late model events most notably the Myrtle Beach 400 which is now at Florence Motor Speedway renamed as the Charlie Powell Memorial 400 with its last winner at the track being Will Burns in 2019 before moving to Florence Motor Speedway in 2020. They even held the Myrtle Beach 250 for the NASCAR Busch Series (NASCAR Xfinity Series) with its last winner at the event was Jeff Green in 2000. It's capacity was 12,000. It was an Asphalt track. It's length was 0.538 miles (0.866 km). It's turns was 13°. It's straights were 4° front, 3° back. They've even had the NASCAR Racing Experience, some Monster Truck events, etc. It really was a great track back then, now it's just rubble, and nothing much is there anymore. R.I.P Myrtle Beach Speedway 1958 - 2020
I do agree about saving these memories of racetracks. I said that since Saugus Speedway is still around but used as a flea market they still have the ability to scan the track. I know it’s like a parking lot but the history is there for west coast bullrings and early SuperTrucks history
I'm gonna miss pukekohe, I went for the last v8 supercar race last year and I'm going to the final ever event in March, and ive had the joy of driving the track myself
This is the first video I have watched of yours and really good content! Not sure if it has been mentioned but the original Kyalami track that hosted F1 from the 60's to the 80's is lost in reality but available on AMS 1 if memory serves and seems it was used in AMS 2 as well
Thank you for including pukekohe Park. I would have suggested it otherwise, It's a great track. My local track. And it's going to be missed, by alot of people, I still hold out hope it will be saved, the Toca version is great for what it is, but the current version on rf2 is the best currently available one, I wish they had the no chicane version, and the old club circuit loop though. When iracing drops it this year, alot of people will lose their shit
Well said mate. I was born in Pukekohe so the track has always held a special place in my heart. I went to the final Supercars race there last year and it was such a bittersweet feeling when it was all over. Easily one of the best things I've ever done in my life that I won't soon forget. Needless to say I'm extremely thankful that iRacing are preserving it so future generations can continue to enjoy it alongside Oran Park which still features regularly in official sessions for the slower series' on the sim. It'll be a day one buy from me that's for sure.
Wow, proud to see the AIC (Autódromo Internacional de Curitiba) here but sad because we don't have it anymore. It had glorious days with multiple categories like Brasilian Stock Car, Truck Series, World Series, and some touring car championships like WTCC. It was famous for the drag races too. But now we don't have it anymore. In 2022 the AIC was sold to a building construction company and will turn into residential buildings. Street races are growing again, and it comes with more traffic accidents. I hope someday we have an official track to race here in Curitiba again.
Excellent video. I would allow myself the liberty to add one more to your list with a slight caveat. A circuit that never was - The Sliven International Circuit near Sliven, Bulgaria. Work was started at the same time as the Hungaroring and had similar design. The Hungarians however finished theirs in record time, and as such the Soviets saw no need for a second Grand Prix circuit in the Eastern Block and pressured the government into abandoning the project. Work slowed and when in 1989 the communist government was overthrown, the country had bigger problems to deal with than an unfinished racing track and so it remains to this day. The groundworks were complete and a shanty town spawned near it. To this day Bulgaria doesn't have a purpose built racing curcuit. Sliven International however exists as recreation in rFactor 2 and an Assetto Corsa conversion.
You can also mention Circuit de Rouen - Les Essarts (France), which is featured officially in 1998 game "Grand Prix Legends". The track was using open roads which still exist nowadays, you can stilll drive partially on it. The track is also available in Project Cars 2.
See Circuito da Boavista in Portugal. Awesome track, previouslly called Mini Nordschleife by ex-F1 driver Nicola Larini and favourite track of many WTCC starts. It had multiple versions, was home of the F1 Portuguese GP for many years as well
-Nazareth Speedway closed in 2004 but still exist in some EA Sports Nascar games on PS2 -Monza oval, no longer used in real life due bad shape, but playable on Rfactor -Imola, Pre 1995 layout in Grand Prix 2(ironically game takes in 1994 season where Roland Ratzenberger & Ayrton Senna died)
A track that I know that is saved thanks to simracing is the Grenzlandring (Wegbergring).. this track was used for bikes and F2 / F3 cars between 48-52 and closed after a big accident. You can technically still race on it as it's part of a freeway now
Charterhall in the Scottish Borders, where Jim Clark started his career. Not very active but its in a very secluded location and its a pity that it isnt used for anything anymore
Thank you for a nice video Would highly encourage people to try Riverside and Longford in AC, absolutely fabulous tracks. edit: Well you just said that at the end haha
For the next episode, maybe the Solitude-Rennstrecke in close proximity of Stuttgart. It was a street course in the 50s and hosts the Solitude Revival event once a year aswell as one of Europe's largest motorcyclists meet ups. After googling apparently it exists in Project Cars.
Another game to look at for some courses is CART Flag to Flag on the Sega Dreamcast (better than Spirit of Speed, I promise). Not only does it include a couple courses mentioned in your videos (Cleveland and Autódromo Internacional Nelson Piquet) but it has a few more no longer in use street courses (Detroit, Vancouver, Houston and the Gold Coast of Australia) and it has the currently SBNO Nazareth Speedway, which has hosted a lot of events in most types of American racing.
10:35 the track was at the eastern side of Curitiba, not western. To be 100% accurate, it was actually located in an adjascent city called Pinhais. That river above the track photo is the border between Curitiba (east) and Pinhais (west). :)
Maybe the FIA should (in my opinion, they really must) demand a track due for closure to be laserscanned for the vault, so it can be revived in racing simulators in the near or far future. So many great tracks were already gone before sim racing could digitize them, so sad. One such example is Brooklands in the UK.
Maybe a little late to the party, but Circuito da Boavista (Porto, Portugal) is available in the Race09 WTCC game. Although is a street circuit and the streets are still there is known that at least in the foreseeable future no races will be held in there
It's a shame for us in Brazil to be in the list, twice! Specially talking about Curitiba, but we're still fighting in the Justice to try to bring our beloved track back!
@@TraxionGG no. It’s still up and running thankfully. I was saying that when that inevitable day comes when it shuts down, it is in iRacing so it is forever immortalized.
The Indy car game that has riverside can be found on the Wii, it was a great game but it could be difficult to advance the game so be warned if you do find it
I like these tracks in sims mostly to drive cars made long after said tracks/layouts no longer existed (i.e. driving the Porsche 919 around the 1964-1972 layout of Le Mans) idk, I just like the idea of a '60s/'70s crowd watching modern cars fly by
All the sims should share the same file format for the circuits. This would help a lot to preserve the circuit memory because, with what we have today, you just need one decade or less to vanish the opportunity of racing in there before the game developers shut down their servers or the game came out of the stores taking with it those circuit files while nowadays sims lack them.
Nice vid, but It's a petty our dear track is in this list! Nevertheless we are revamping our track for Assetto Corsa to recreate one of the great events held there the 12h of Curitiba!
@@TraxionGG very nice! Our track is based in a early conversion from Race07 that, as said before, are being completely revamped and the most important, we're keeping the bumps! I'll let you know when we're ready! 😊
The version of Langhorne Speedway that exists in Indy 500 evolution technically never existed in real life. The layout of the track in game is the original dirt layout, but in the game it is paved. When the real life track was paved in 1965 it took more of a "D" shape to it instead of the original ellipse oval
I wish iRacing would try and save the Nazareth Speedway because a lot of those races were so good and imagine the current gen NASCAR cup cars on that track.
NASCAR heat 5 has the auto club track. This year in 2023 was the last year that the track will be used and the entire track is going to be made into a much smaller track. Also Project cars 2 has the old hockenheimring and the old spa-francorchamps
Wakefield park will sadly join this list due to having to close due to urban sprawl encroaching into the track. And their is sadly the possibility of the famous sandown track being added as well
I almost went to the last v8 race at puke but was way too hungover after my mates 21st the night before and ended up sleeping to after the race had started so absolutely annoyed I didn't go
Video games have a lot of value in terms of conservation. Assassins Creed unity had the most realistic 3d model of Norte dame and was actually used to aid in the reconstruction after the fire.
Will be great! On that second point, we haven’t included mods in this video, as pretty much every circuit may have a mod available in some capacity. Might be a seperate video in future 😊
The thing that pains me the most about pukekohe is that horse racing should be 100x more likely to be banned because of the ethics of it. The Auckland Council has Greyhound Dog racing in it's last legs even! All the rich people that like betting on horses can do it for cars, have actual visible sponsorships on the cars, AND not get hated for supporting the cruelty these horses go through in training (they can lie all they want but we all know its a cruel industry).
Texas World Speedway showed up in NFS ProStreet. I know it’s definitely not a sim, but apart from Shift, I think it’s the closest NFS will ever get to being one. Also, I’m pretty sure F1 2020 has the Hanoi circuit that was never used. I don’t know if any others have it or not, or even if it’s been mentioned before.
So sad know about this tracks....i shocked to know about Adria.....Unfortunelly my hometown and near of my home, Curitiba now are demolished to be a commercial / residencial area....But the builds was estimated to be finished at this year, but i don't believe in that. Lost our circuit for nothing! Congrats to this real estate speculation...(for info, the area of Circuit since 1990 at today increased x10 - x15 times!)
I will buy a house where Curitiba circuit was placed... it will be a haunted house on where I will hear drivers dead curses about missing the T1... all the time
Check out our original video :) - ua-cam.com/video/iep3leu85ws/v-deo.html Since making it, we have discovered Rockingham on LFS, and it's a superb version!
In the future people will start to value sim racing more as a way of having a memory of old lost tracks
That's sad
@@breaseeee70 How? 🤦♂️
@@breaseeee70 Real racing will always live on, but people will respect Sim Racing more. To quote Bernie Sanders: "That's a good thing."
@@breaseeee70 I don’t see it as sad, more positive tbh. I think sim racing could be a good virtual recording of old tracks when they disappear in real life, thanks to laser scans etc.
We can race old cars on new tracks, or new cars on old tracks, in a virtual world with limitless possibilities. Not the same as the real thing no, but better than mere black & white photos.
Happening already since the big earthquake in 2021 that landslided Ebisu and the owner decided it was not worth it to re asphalt and thus re‐converted Minami course to a dirt rallycross track.
Two F1 tracks from the top of my head come to mind:
- Hockenheim (pre-2002 layout). Officially in any F1 game of the era, like Grand Prix 4.
- Silverstone (the Bridge layout or old GP). iRacing.
Two reasons (actually three - Nurburgring with different Sector 1... and Magny Cours "old layout" (diffferent final chicane part). why I always have F1 99-02 installed on my computer. Even if just for 2-3 laps a month. "Nostalgia".
Zandvoort (southern bit) and Spa Francorchamps had some amazing fast sections in their previous lives
Old Hockenheim with chicanes can also be found in Project Cars 2
@@TrolledBy old silverstone as well i think
@@TrueSonOfWalhall yes, with the chicane. Assetto Corsa has old Silverstone without the chicane at the end.
Ebisu circuit and the old Fuji circuit layouts in Japan would be neat to feature. Fuji from the 80s is easy to access in Gran Turismo, but older than that I'm not sure. Ebisu in particular is intresting since its featured as a drift track in some games, but in racing configuration it's much rarer.
you have them all in assetto corsa for pc, there are terrabites of tracks and cars available from 3rd party devs
@@valojj3197 Very true, I was focusing on tracks included in games from the get-go
@@christopherc7075 yeah it would fit forza to have the whole complex since turn 10 has a history of having drifting partnerships
Need for Speed Shift has Ebisu South and West, and Shift 2 also includes the touge course. Although that game hardly counts as a sim.
@@TrolledByI didn't know that, I'll have to check it out! :)
Ontario Motor Speedway, arguably the world's first "supertrack" that hosted Indy car, NASCAR, IMSA, drag racing and the one-off F1 vs. F5000 Questor Grand Prix, was in Papyrus' "NASCAR Legends" (even though Ontario's first NASCAR race was in 1971, one year after the season in which the game was set).
4:41 Riverside also exists in a remade form in some of the EA Nascar games! It's called the Old Spice or Boulder circuit. It has more banking and is run in the opposite direction, but it's still a really neat tribute.
also, Riverside has been perserved in assetto corsa through modding as well. its a personal favorite of mine, its sad to see its been destroyed.
This made me sad, but it also showcases the extreme value of sim racing. So bitter sweet?
Excellent work on this one!
Thank you so much Top Sim! - Oasley
What value? It's still a video game. The tracks are still gone.
@@corail53 ... youre almost there. the tracks were going away anyway. so its either you drive them virtually or not at all.
As someone who lives in Curitiba and went to the track, a couple of times it's sad to see the track go away. I was practically crying seeing images of it. Definitely deserved better
Rockingham is a track based in the UK which was an oval track. It later turned into a car park. Live For Speed has a laser scanned version of the track preserving the track.
Great shout! Rockingham was a mega circuit, I raced there in real life a few times too, such a good flow to it. We covered it in our first video if you want to check that out, although since then we have given it a go on LFS :) - ua-cam.com/video/iep3leu85ws/v-deo.html
That isn't preserving the track at all. It is still gone.
I remember touring cars on Rockingham
You should make an episode for modded tracks. Stuff like the Targa Florio project for GP Legends is a milestone in historic track recreation.
I second this! I would nominate the Limerock park Long layout, since it makes a fast, flowing track even crazier
Such a pleasant surprise to see two Brazilian tracks on this list!
Longfords '67 setting comes from it original recreation for Grand Prix Legends. Gorgious in rF2.
Hearing of the loss of Curitiba saddened me. Won't cry for Adria though.
Yeah and Pukekohe was real fun.
Thank you so so much for including and Talking about Pukekohe. It is my home circuit. I grew up around Motorsport, and was there as a kid to now (27). I finally had the opportunity to drive full speed of one of their track days. She was and still is an amazing circuit. Our last race is the end of the year, which will be a huge send off with 10 class including Super Trucks.
That will be so bittersweet. Crazy to think about it all, but sadly that's the reality for so many circuits over the years🙁 I don't know the area at all but hopefully there is another circuit you can call home!
@TraxionGG Hampton Downs is the track, but Pukie will always be home. And she was unique, I'd you tried to rebuild the exact some track elsewhere, you will never get it right. The bumps down the front straight and through turn 1, Ford mountain etc. And she's also the fastest Drifting track in the southern Hemispheres, clocked at 205kph entry
Curitiba is punch in the gut for the brazilian racing. The track is awesome to race both in real and sim racing, a bunch of people rallied so it wouldn’t be demolished but to no use, it’s really saddening to see it go.
I also remember very well Enna Pergusa from GTR2. Incredible fast track with intimidating chicanes, that hosted FIA GT and F3000. I loved that track.
That's why when I had the opportunity to travel to Sicily a few years ago, I entered the circuit (it was open for everyone) and when walking through the kerbs of the first turn, childhood memories came to me.
As for the track, when I went there it was abandoned but I think a few years ago the 24h series run in there.
From my knowledge, Pergusa Is still used. At least, there Is a race calendar for 2023
Seeing all these tracks being preserved in these old games even without the benefit of mods is really awesome. I'd love to see a video on unique modded circuits eventually, but this is a great selection of official stuff regardless.
I'm always filled with tears when i here about racetracks being demolished for property. If only motorsport wasn't that expensive to compete in I'm pretty sure many tracks would have been saved. I'm curious about the cost of track days and how they work, but even so, just a 20min go-kart race with hired karts is out of my budget range, sadly
Sucks to see such nice racetracks going away, but at least they're saved in the sim racing world
The game Nascar Legends from 1999 is based off the 1970 Nascar Cup Series and has the since abandoned tracks of Riverside, Ontario Motor Speedway, and Texas World Speedway.
Another track that qualifies is the Detroit Grand Prix circuit, also known as the Belle Isle Circuit. With racing in Detroit going back around the Rennaissance Center this year, the Belle Isle circuit will no longer be used. Fortunately, it's on iRacing for future virtual racing.
I have been to Jacarapegua and Curitiba to watch a lot of different races, from Indycar to WTCC, as well as Brazilian Stock Car, Porsche Cup and so on. Curitiba in particular was a very special place for me to go. It was a bit depressing seeing these two Brazilian tracks in the list. At least we can still enjoy them in Automobilista.
I had no clue Canberra had such a really cool rally stage
So sad it was shut down cause I'd love to see rally cars race there again
1:55 the Rio Circuit was also driveable in the somewhat forgotten Newman/Haas Racing from 1998 which was on PsOne and PC.
Great stuff! I enjoyed 1000's of laps of the version of Riverside that was converted from GPL to race in the GTP Mod for Nascar2003. I used to drive by that shopping center every few months. There is a commemorative plaque in the parking lot of the Shopping Center, so some of its' history is still intact. The original Marquee was present for years, just with Home Depot Advertising, etc. on it.
I remember watching the WTCC on Curitiba and afterwards firing up Race 07.
Brings tears to my eyes how good those days were..
I think everyone loved Curitiba on Race 07, I am also guessing because it was the first race of the season, it was the one that we all played the most 😂 Also, the Porto circuit was crazy!
@@TraxionGG Porto was crazy! I still play Race 07 from time to time, and Brno has a special place too. But Curitiba takes the number one in my opinion!😅 Since I started playing Automobilista 1 and 2 I was so surprised to see how many cool and fun tracks Brazil had
There is still a piece of riverside memorialized. Several of the street names in the area are of racing drivers alluding to the history of the area
And then there are the tracks still in use, but the layout has changed so much that it may as well be a different circuit, where the historic layouts have been preserved thanks to sims.
They haven't been preserved because they aren't real.
Rockingham in LFS. And pukke actually in rf2 as an "half official" mod with the ft60
Myrtle Beach Speedway on iRacing down in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
Myrtle Beach Speedway had some big names such as the Earnhardts (Ralph, Dale Sr., Dale Jr., and Kelley), the Pettys (Lee, Richard, Kyle, and Adam), and Jeff Gordon.
They held a lot of late model events most notably the Myrtle Beach 400 which is now at Florence Motor Speedway renamed as the Charlie Powell Memorial 400 with its last winner at the track being Will Burns in 2019 before moving to Florence Motor Speedway in 2020.
They even held the Myrtle Beach 250 for the NASCAR Busch Series (NASCAR Xfinity Series) with its last winner at the event was Jeff Green in 2000.
It's capacity was 12,000.
It was an Asphalt track.
It's length was 0.538 miles (0.866 km).
It's turns was 13°.
It's straights were 4° front, 3° back.
They've even had the NASCAR Racing Experience, some Monster Truck events, etc.
It really was a great track back then, now it's just rubble, and nothing much is there anymore.
R.I.P
Myrtle Beach Speedway
1958 - 2020
It's a great thing rFactor has both Riverside and the original layout of Interlagos available.
I do agree about saving these memories of racetracks. I said that since Saugus Speedway is still around but used as a flea market they still have the ability to scan the track. I know it’s like a parking lot but the history is there for west coast bullrings and early SuperTrucks history
I'm gonna miss pukekohe, I went for the last v8 supercar race last year and I'm going to the final ever event in March, and ive had the joy of driving the track myself
This is the first video I have watched of yours and really good content! Not sure if it has been mentioned but the original Kyalami track that hosted F1 from the 60's to the 80's is lost in reality but available on AMS 1 if memory serves and seems it was used in AMS 2 as well
you deserve more subs! interesting vid
Thanks!
This was beautiful
Thank you for including pukekohe Park. I would have suggested it otherwise,
It's a great track. My local track. And it's going to be missed, by alot of people, I still hold out hope it will be saved, the Toca version is great for what it is, but the current version on rf2 is the best currently available one, I wish they had the no chicane version, and the old club circuit loop though. When iracing drops it this year, alot of people will lose their shit
Well said mate. I was born in Pukekohe so the track has always held a special place in my heart. I went to the final Supercars race there last year and it was such a bittersweet feeling when it was all over. Easily one of the best things I've ever done in my life that I won't soon forget. Needless to say I'm extremely thankful that iRacing are preserving it so future generations can continue to enjoy it alongside Oran Park which still features regularly in official sessions for the slower series' on the sim. It'll be a day one buy from me that's for sure.
Wow, proud to see the AIC (Autódromo Internacional de Curitiba) here but sad because we don't have it anymore. It had glorious days with multiple categories like Brasilian Stock Car, Truck Series, World Series, and some touring car championships like WTCC. It was famous for the drag races too. But now we don't have it anymore. In 2022 the AIC was sold to a building construction company and will turn into residential buildings. Street races are growing again, and it comes with more traffic accidents. I hope someday we have an official track to race here in Curitiba again.
Excellent video. I would allow myself the liberty to add one more to your list with a slight caveat. A circuit that never was - The Sliven International Circuit near Sliven, Bulgaria. Work was started at the same time as the Hungaroring and had similar design. The Hungarians however finished theirs in record time, and as such the Soviets saw no need for a second Grand Prix circuit in the Eastern Block and pressured the government into abandoning the project. Work slowed and when in 1989 the communist government was overthrown, the country had bigger problems to deal with than an unfinished racing track and so it remains to this day. The groundworks were complete and a shanty town spawned near it. To this day Bulgaria doesn't have a purpose built racing curcuit. Sliven International however exists as recreation in rFactor 2 and an Assetto Corsa conversion.
You can also mention Circuit de Rouen - Les Essarts (France), which is featured officially in 1998 game "Grand Prix Legends". The track was using open roads which still exist nowadays, you can stilll drive partially on it. The track is also available in Project Cars 2.
I'm so utterly heartbroken over the closure of Pukekohe.
Got one: old Hockenheim Layout with the long straight through the woods
See Circuito da Boavista in Portugal. Awesome track, previouslly called Mini Nordschleife by ex-F1 driver Nicola Larini and favourite track of many WTCC starts. It had multiple versions, was home of the F1 Portuguese GP for many years as well
-Nazareth Speedway closed in 2004 but still exist in some EA Sports Nascar games on PS2
-Monza oval, no longer used in real life due bad shape, but playable on Rfactor
-Imola, Pre 1995 layout in Grand Prix 2(ironically game takes in 1994 season where Roland Ratzenberger & Ayrton Senna died)
A track that I know that is saved thanks to simracing is the Grenzlandring (Wegbergring).. this track was used for bikes and F2 / F3 cars between 48-52 and closed after a big accident. You can technically still race on it as it's part of a freeway now
Props to getting the pronunciation of Pukekohe correct.
Charterhall in the Scottish Borders, where Jim Clark started his career. Not very active but its in a very secluded location and its a pity that it isnt used for anything anymore
As a Scot, I would love to give Charterhall a blast on a sim!
@@TraxionGG The original track isn't that interesting unfortunately, but the layout of the place could be used as a fantasy track
Thank you for a nice video
Would highly encourage people to try Riverside and Longford in AC, absolutely fabulous tracks.
edit: Well you just said that at the end haha
For the next episode, maybe the Solitude-Rennstrecke in close proximity of Stuttgart. It was a street course in the 50s and hosts the Solitude Revival event once a year aswell as one of Europe's largest motorcyclists meet ups.
After googling apparently it exists in Project Cars.
Another game to look at for some courses is CART Flag to Flag on the Sega Dreamcast (better than Spirit of Speed, I promise). Not only does it include a couple courses mentioned in your videos (Cleveland and Autódromo Internacional Nelson Piquet) but it has a few more no longer in use street courses (Detroit, Vancouver, Houston and the Gold Coast of Australia) and it has the currently SBNO Nazareth Speedway, which has hosted a lot of events in most types of American racing.
Ah that’s cool!
10:35 the track was at the eastern side of Curitiba, not western. To be 100% accurate, it was actually located in an adjascent city called Pinhais. That river above the track photo is the border between Curitiba (east) and Pinhais (west). :)
Thanks!
Maybe the FIA should (in my opinion, they really must) demand a track due for closure to be laserscanned for the vault, so it can be revived in racing simulators in the near or far future.
So many great tracks were already gone before sim racing could digitize them, so sad. One such example is Brooklands in the UK.
After hearing pukekohe was going to be on Iracing it gave me the push to check out sim racing, I'm hooked now and can't wait for this track
Subscribed ! Has an only lost track championship take place on SIM out there ? If not, I would appreciate so much!
Thanks! And that's a very cool idea
Maybe a little late to the party, but Circuito da Boavista (Porto, Portugal) is available in the Race09 WTCC game. Although is a street circuit and the streets are still there is known that at least in the foreseeable future no races will be held in there
the original Adelaide GP track lay out
It's a shame for us in Brazil to be in the list, twice! Specially talking about Curitiba, but we're still fighting in the Justice to try to bring our beloved track back!
Fingers crossed!❤️
We could add the original layout of Interlagos to the list too.
The day I see my local track destroyed, I will be defeated, however it will and always be immortalized by iRacing
Pukekohe?
@@TraxionGG no. It’s still up and running thankfully. I was saying that when that inevitable day comes when it shuts down, it is in iRacing so it is forever immortalized.
And it’s 5 Flags Speedway
The first track you mentioned is part of the 87-88 f1 season mod pack o. R factor 2
The Indy car game that has riverside can be found on the Wii, it was a great game but it could be difficult to advance the game so be warned if you do find it
People are still trying to save Curitiba,i really hope they do save it
The track of Curitiba is found in another game called Copa Petrobas de Marcas
Wow. I played RBR for the first time and I was like NO way mineshaft really had a jump like that. NO way
Bridgehampton circuit... Next time👌
I like these tracks in sims mostly to drive cars made long after said tracks/layouts no longer existed (i.e. driving the Porsche 919 around the 1964-1972 layout of Le Mans)
idk, I just like the idea of a '60s/'70s crowd watching modern cars fly by
All the sims should share the same file format for the circuits. This would help a lot to preserve the circuit memory because, with what we have today, you just need one decade or less to vanish the opportunity of racing in there before the game developers shut down their servers or the game came out of the stores taking with it those circuit files while nowadays sims lack them.
Nice vid, but It's a petty our dear track is in this list!
Nevertheless we are revamping our track for Assetto Corsa to recreate one of the great events held there the 12h of Curitiba!
Mega! I loved it from the Race07 days in particular 🙌🏼
@@TraxionGG very nice! Our track is based in a early conversion from Race07 that, as said before, are being completely revamped and the most important, we're keeping the bumps!
I'll let you know when we're ready! 😊
The version of Langhorne Speedway that exists in Indy 500 evolution technically never existed in real life. The layout of the track in game is the original dirt layout, but in the game it is paved. When the real life track was paved in 1965 it took more of a "D" shape to it instead of the original ellipse oval
I wish iRacing would try and save the Nazareth Speedway because a lot of those races were so good and imagine the current gen NASCAR cup cars on that track.
Dunsfold Aerodrome (top gear circuit) may well be one soon. Theres been proposed plans to remove it all and build housing there.
This is why Sim Racing will not die
Sim racing need to save Circuit Mont-Tremblant near Montreal in Quebec before it gets torn down in favor of houses 😥
Totally agree, what a circuit! Let's hope
NASCAR heat 5 has the auto club track. This year in 2023 was the last year that the track will be used and the entire track is going to be made into a much smaller track. Also Project cars 2 has the old hockenheimring and the old spa-francorchamps
Wakefield park will sadly join this list due to having to close due to urban sprawl encroaching into the track. And their is sadly the possibility of the famous sandown track being added as well
0:38 which one is this?
This is Oran Park, which we covered in the original video 😊 - 8 Real Racing Tracks Saved By Sim Racing
ua-cam.com/video/iep3leu85ws/v-deo.html
IIRC Rfactor 2 have some kinda-sorta official versions of Adria and Pukekohe too
0:13 what track is that?
Avus 😊
The 2 mile and road course variants of Fontana will sadly be added soon
I almost went to the last v8 race at puke but was way too hungover after my mates 21st the night before and ended up sleeping to after the race had started so absolutely annoyed I didn't go
Is there a sim of Thunderdome in Calder park
Imagine modern rally monsters going full tilt on that canberra stage, so much death
So much downforce and power, they would probably dig their own hole through the ground and avoid the jump that way!
Video games have a lot of value in terms of conservation. Assassins Creed unity had the most realistic 3d model of Norte dame and was actually used to aid in the reconstruction after the fire.
That's crazy!
you can find a few games that are either officially in or modded into the game. sad some of these are long gone for the modern race tracks.
You mention Pukekohe, I feel compelled to mention the FailRace video in which he and the filming crew race on a recreation of Pukekohe in GTA 5.
Wicked! We love FailRace videos.
At some point I imagine these scans could be used to recreate these tracks
Can't wait for Pukekohe to be in iRacing, but something you didn't mention is that its already on rFactor and Assetto Corsa
Will be great! On that second point, we haven’t included mods in this video, as pretty much every circuit may have a mod available in some capacity. Might be a seperate video in future 😊
@@TraxionGG Ahh that makes sense!
I literally take the bus through Monsanto on my way to work
Riverside - ua-cam.com/video/KHV295mo9YY/v-deo.html
Curitiba - ua-cam.com/video/1S9VRkXBnPk/v-deo.html
The worst part of this video is I didn't know about WTCC legend track Curitiba.
Miss u Curitiba ❤😢
The thing that pains me the most about pukekohe is that horse racing should be 100x more likely to be banned because of the ethics of it. The Auckland Council has Greyhound Dog racing in it's last legs even!
All the rich people that like betting on horses can do it for cars, have actual visible sponsorships on the cars, AND not get hated for supporting the cruelty these horses go through in training (they can lie all they want but we all know its a cruel industry).
Texas World Speedway showed up in NFS ProStreet. I know it’s definitely not a sim, but apart from Shift, I think it’s the closest NFS will ever get to being one. Also, I’m pretty sure F1 2020 has the Hanoi circuit that was never used. I don’t know if any others have it or not, or even if it’s been mentioned before.
Hanoi was featured in the previous episode
Add North Wilksburough to the list. It wouldn’t be the all star race this year without its one off in iracing during the pandemic
We covered it in our first video 😊
@@TraxionGG ah, didn’t see that. Good to know that all Motorsports get some recognition in the sim racing community.
I don’t know if you did this one but north wilksboro was literally saved nascar is racing there this year after 20 years abandoned
We did, check out part 1 :)
ua-cam.com/video/iep3leu85ws/v-deo.html
I live on the Longford track
Don't forget about North Wilksboro
You're absolutely correct, our first video on Tracks saved by Sim Racing covers North Wilkesboro - ua-cam.com/video/iep3leu85ws/v-deo.html
So sad know about this tracks....i shocked to know about Adria.....Unfortunelly my hometown and near of my home, Curitiba now are demolished to be a commercial / residencial area....But the builds was estimated to be finished at this year, but i don't believe in that. Lost our circuit for nothing! Congrats to this real estate speculation...(for info, the area of Circuit since 1990 at today increased x10 - x15 times!)
Such a shame :(
Pescara: am i a JOKE to you?
(I know It can be played only with a mod on Rfactor 1)
I will buy a house where Curitiba circuit was placed... it will be a haunted house on where I will hear drivers dead curses about missing the T1... all the time
Not the most exciting track in the world I know but huge history….Brooklands in the UK. Some of it still stands but most was demolished.
Totally agree! It was the first track we covered in our previous video :) - ua-cam.com/video/iep3leu85ws/v-deo.html
You forgot Rockinham Motor Speedway that is playable un Live For Speed
Check out our original video :) - ua-cam.com/video/iep3leu85ws/v-deo.html
Since making it, we have discovered Rockingham on LFS, and it's a superb version!
think IRacing is working on Riverside Raceway. if not already...
Would love to see that