Mace is getting NERFED, now what?
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Mace nerf using elytra and new ways to use mace 1 hit kill attack. Then compare mace to instant kill arrow breeze wind charge cannon. Minecraft 1.21 update added new weapon that's a mace made from breeze rod and heavy core from vault block using trial key from trial spawner when beating the breeze in the trial chambers. Mace does knockback, prevents fall damage, and extra damage when falling. ►More cool Minecraft glitches: • Real Glitches
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#Mace - Ігри
Honestly elytra into falling sounds a bit more interesting than just being even more op when you get elytra
I think that the fall damage immunity from the mace shouldn't be applied on pointed dripstone. Using dripstone as a defensive counter to spam on the ground would be a fun counter to the mace
You could just pearl away no? To escape being hit and escape the dripstone? Or breeze ball before hitting the dripstone to reset momentum?
@@donutbedum9837 then u can't hit them
@@Me-da-Ghost sry i think you misunderstood, you'd only pearl away at that point to save yourself, you wouldn't be thinking abt hitting the dude anymore if hes put dripstone would you?
wild theobaldthebird spotted
@@Samstercraft77 ???
The moment I saw the mace I instantly thought of elytra combo. Thought that was intended. It is beyond me how mojang didn't expect it
it was a bug not "they didn't expect it"
@@minerminecrafter464the devs didn't except it when implementing the feature, hence the bug
Who ever made this bug report hates fun
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Prob the same guy who reported bulps
I bet this is the same guy who reported a ‘bug’ with bulbs
it literally doesn't matter. the mace is still way too powerful, just watch 0:27 through 1:28
@@duckified. it’s hard to get so it should be powerful
When you kill someone it should say “player brought the hammer down on player”
Nah, “[Player #1] got bonked by [Player #2]’s Mace” sounds funnier
"[Player #2] market gardened [Player #1] using Mace"
"[Player 1] has used the Ban Hammer on [Player 2]"
"[Player #1] felt the ire of [Player #2]"
"[Player #2] brought ruin upon [Player #1]"
I rather expected them to cap the damage
They confirmed there won't be a damage cap on the mace
let's hope they don't
Let's hope they do. There's no reason you should be able to one-shot the Ender Dragon or a Warden without insane setup.
my thoughts exactly@@TwiliPaladin
@@TwiliPaladin Why? The Warden dosent drop anything that worth to farm it and the Ender Dragon you only need to kill it 1 (or 20) times, who cares if you one shot them with the mace.
And its a shame that The Warden was desing to be a mob that you better, or can only, run away instead a mob you can fight against, because in some mod packs, like ATM9, its a good fight.
Tbh I’m not too sad that a one hit kill weapon got nerfed
It was really OP
but think of the fun
@@Mediocre_Soup Completely stripping any challenge from the game isn't fun
@@Nico_com_c not the challenge of one shotting full netherite friends
it is barely a nerf you just can't abuse elytra
@@findot777 what exactily is the nerf? You can't use elytra with it, or ia it that damage is less? You could just take of the elytra as you can't cancel the elytra in the air unlike bedrock
I think damage should be logarithmic meaning the damage increase is less and less as you increase drop height
Also increased durability use as you fall further
I think, they should add diminishing returns to the mace's damage from the fall distance. So that first 5 blocks give 10 damage (for example), next 5 blocks add 5 damage, then 3.3 damage, then 2.5, then 2, then 1.6 and so on.
This way, there is no damage cap, it can accumulate up to infinity, but it would take a lot more fall distance to one-shot a warden. And this effect would be only noticeable when you want to deal tons of damage in a single hit.
That's a bad idea. I have an idea, we shouldn't nerf it at all.
Ignore the previous comment please, you gave a great idea that could potentially fix the mace.
Now that the mace requires a tiny bit more setup my insanely complicated and impractical machine becomes a real alternative! XD
Kidding, Ray. Cool machine. XD
Totems actually get rid of ALL potion effects (even the positive ones) so the poison arrow is a little-
Pointless
Yeah, you think that. But that didn't seem to be the case when Ray was testing this. Ray would use the poison arrow on a player with the totem, and they'd still have Poison. It could be that totems don't actually get rid of poison, or it could be an order of operations thing, where the poison arrow does enough damage at impact to kill the player, the totem kicks in, and then the poison effect from the arrow is applied shortly after that.
@@another_jt oh maybe
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Even though the mace was extremely fun to mess around with, I'm glad mojang are taking steps towards nerfing as otherwise I could see the mace ruining pvp and combat. Personally though I think that mojang should try and rework the mace rather than just straight nerfs to make the weapon more interesting
2:10 harming arrows do not work in Minecraft. There is an issue about this in the bug forum, basically either the harming damage OR the arrow does the damage. I did see however they changed this in the combat snapshots. idk if they changed that nowadays
People really be calling this a nerf
Because it is, it makes it less powerful which is the definition of a nerf
@@neoncat6820you are talking to a brick wall here
it is by definition a nerf
@@neoncat6820it’s literally just as powerful as before. You can’t even shield against it. All they did was make it so that you have to not be bad to use it, which is a very fair trade off. “You can one shot bosses, but you gotta have clutch game” is more than fair.
@@Syntex366 I'm not saying it was balanced before or even now, I'm simply saying that it is a nerf. There's literally no opinions here, it is OBJECTIVELY a nerf as it's making it do less damage under certain conditions without anything making it stronger in any way.
Another pretty important reason why you couldn’t use the piglin to shoot piercing arrows is that if you took them into the overworld, the would convert to a zombie piglin and no longer fire arrows, but if you were to do it in the nether, you would not be able to use the bubble column to store the arrows.
If you hit someone from over 4000 blocks and the player survives the damage, don't worry! the particles will surely kill their cpu
So basically the mace is an anvil on a stick
Omg yes
lol it is, I need a texture pack for that 😂
@@LisqrTheFox thanks, now im imagining it lol
Fr
With that said, new enchantments should be added.
Minecraft thumbnails from now on : How I Took over a Server with only a Mace 🤯
You could also use a bogged instead of a skeleton for extra poison
I think the elytra thing should be allowed, but the mace should increase fall damage when it’s being held. So if you miss your mace hit, you’re more likely to die
Now thats a good Nerf, plus it opens up a new skill for players like swiching the mace instantly after attacking to prevent dying to fall damage if they miss, but they should also make it so that the wind charge does not nullify fall damage if you attack before touching the ground, this way no one would be right to complain against the mace as it would be a high risk and high reward item, just as intended.
Oh and for the elitra it could make it slower to turn your camera while flying.
I’m happy that they nerfed it. It was waaaaaaay to OP before.
You could kill a prot 4 netherite player from 14 blocks up, it absolutely needed a nerf
@@Cera_01you underestimate how big 14 blocks is
@@Bradboss10 if you were fighting on the side of a mountain, you could divebomb off the side and easily measure 14 blocks or more
@@Bradboss10youre overestimating how high 14 blocks is
@Cera_01 how do you get the target to stand still? You can't move while falling and they can just step a single block in any direction
i mean this was too op you could just fly and kill 5 netherite guys in seconds.
replace skeleton with bogged and give it power 5 flame bow, ungodly weapon of mass destruction
Nerfed or not I better be seeing some smp kills from the top rope when this comes out
Plus, this might have an interesting balance vs. end crystals, since those are most powerful from below
In bedrock edition you can disable elytra mid air so you can still use that on bedrock edition 😅
crystal pvp is going to be so much different now
Everybody mad about the elytra mace bug but don’t realize that since this is the only thing that was changed about the mace it means Mojang actually intends to leave this thing as a one-hit KO on anything, they just want the trade-off to be that you need to actually be skilled enough to land your hits. High risk high reward weapon. I don’t see the problem with this.
I don't think this thing is OP at all, unless you're playing against an afk player or fighting a mob with no AI.
@@thetele8646 that is literally what this coment says.
@@saucemaster6452 my bad, didn't read it properly.
Can there be a more compact and survival friendly ender dragon killing machine with this mechanic?
It didn’t get nerfed lol, it got buffed like crazy
well.. this aged like milk.
ofcource it is
You forgot to mention that Piglins become Zombie Piglins outside of the nether
I’m confused what the nerf means. If it means that it doesn’t count the elytra’s kinetic energy, that’s stupid. But just flying downwards should still deal the damage. If it doesn’t, that just makes the weapon make even less sense, and several bug reports will come out of that in the future.
It's exactly what it means. Damage from an Elytra is kinetic damage, not falling damage. I mean technically falling damage is kinetic damage as they're both based on force being applied to an object to accelerate it, but not according to the game mechanics. Falling damage in the game is calculated by the distance between you and the ground when you started to fall, kinetic damage is calculated by your velocity before coming in contact with a hard surface while wearing an Elytra.
I really like it when my opponent does not move
Could you add lava or fire to the damage farm so when they hit it will be fire arrows
You just need one arrow from the Skeleton, because damage is managed in damage-ticks. If you damage a mob, for a short period of time it will just accept the damage from the source with the highest damage. Cubicmertre made a good video about that topic.
There's a new enchantment called Density, which is basically the fix for this
Honestly probably the only nerf it needed the elytra is already the most powerful movement item, it’s probably best for it not to be a powerful combat item with the mace
Still too op, atleast they should make it so it has a base 3 attack damage or smthin
3 sounds like too much of a nerf i feel like 5 damage and the Axe cooldown would be More than enough.
12:21
Also piglins won't work in the overworld (or end I think)
An automatic wither invoking and killing machine with the new arrow mechanism?
Hey, the youtuber Gerg said it, and I think you can build it (it's suppose to be easy):
In the short video in minecraft live or something that shows the trial chamber, you can see the custom spawner thing gived DIAMONDS as loot for killing the mobs. So can you build farm for it? Just, maybe do it in the official release, so it doesn't get removed... Anyway, if you think this is a nice idea but you don't want to make it yet, please just like this comment or something, so I know you loved the idea. Goodbye (:
Well. So much for the Winged Death drop attack.
:(
Still Op. Wait till hacked clients abuse this infinite damage when falling, you'll be crying then.
Then again, it's probably trivial for servers to put a damage cap on it.
It’s not Mojang’s problem that servers have shitty moderation and anti-cheat.
yo raysworks wont the piglin turn it into a zom piglin?
Can you break someone's armor with the breeze accelerator?
this aged terribly. now you can just enchant the mace to be busted beyond belief.
Most people hold 2 totems. 1 in each hand
what if the bow breaks?
use lava to make the arrow with flame
The mace with elytra was so op you were basically a falcon. Go up, hit target, repeat. The mace not having a damage cap is actually good. It gives options to players who doesnt want to invest 100% in combat. For example, now I prefer to kill the Wither by building a 100 block tower and hit it like a damn falcon hunting a rabbit instead of trapping it below the end fountain. For the first beacon maybe fight it normally, but for the tenth is tedious. The mace isnt a standard combat weapon and I understand why some people are upset about it is way op.
At least you can still basically do infinite damage still, wish elytra was possible with it still but guess so you don’t get trolls of the sky
This isn't a nerf exactly , only by definition. You can still one shot with mace using other tricks and nothing actually about the weapon is merfed.
Oh wow, how useful, a machine that one shots players if they stand in an extremely specific spot
That's a weak nerf, thank god
agree
After just 2 days, mace is now OP again. Breach IV = -60% armor effectiveness 😂
next mojang anti player update:
Arrows can no longer be pushed by pistons
the elytra thing was deserved
@@fldom4610bro you ever play on a survival server? People use end crystals to blow each other up, have and inventory full of totems, and ender pearl around like Dragon Ball Z characters. The mace was not too OP it was simply a breath of fresh air in the PvP meta and now it's ruined because people like you making the mindless comments.
@@robertmendez8383 bro the thing that you could fly with an alytra and hitting players in light speed is just more unbalanced than crystals. It has a big difference i would not call this a nerf cuz the mace is still pretty useful. Just imagine all the trolls in the sky flying around and one shotting people with the mace whiel flying at light speed. The mace itself is pretty cool its just that expoit that the community found that just made it off limits
@@fldom4610 I see someone buzzing around my head with an elytras? It's called place an obsidian and an end crystal then blow it up when they swoop down.
@@robertmendez8383 crystals can be avoided but flying with elytra and one shotting players at light speed and there is no way you can fail it is more unbalaned than the existanec of crystals. Its good to have this nerf it makes the mace harder to use with a good outcome... thats how it should be. I prefer balance over fun (unless ofc its an april fools update)
I'm fine with this change, really. A mace should use potential energy, not kinetic.
as soon as you accelerate whiel falling you convert your potential energy to kinetic energy. you gain potential energy by going up
I'd say the elytra not working on maces isn't enough a nerf, as it's already such a late game strategy. Durability taken stacking with damage could be a very good way to nerf the mace without removing its unique infinitely stacking damage mechanic.
that just makes the mace twice as grindy for repairs and i'm pretty sure anyone who has it would not want to get stuck in trial dungeon most of the time
not mandatory to even get it, but making it take durability depending on the damage dealt just makes it really annoying to use
it doesnt need any more nerfs, i think its a balanced weapon now. (considering its rare)
Everybody complaining, you guys are the same one trapping the wither in an underground box to farm for wither stars
Bro fr like some ppl jus need to 🤐
wtf is the point of this change?? Increased damage from flying at someone with a mace makes total sense. I swear they just love taking away the ways to have fun
TIL you can spectate ender pearls :)
Damn must’ve been a CrystalPvP player
Literally makes no sense to nerf the mace in that manner...
I could care less about it coming to the game, but now I care even less 😂
Hey Ray are you trying to make a horizontal arrow shotgun cannon if that’s at all possible I want to see a 300 arrow rain type thing to fire at say another players base
I think you should be able to block a mace with a shield
Wouldn’t make sense; if the mace is “heavier” then the axe, and the shield can be disarmed by an axe, there is no way a shield could block that. (Although it swings as fast as a sword so idk)
@@JonUhThan88 I think it should be blocked by the shield but disarm it for a little longer than an axe or for a proportional amount to the damage that would be dealt because as it is the mace is terribly overpowered
@@DefinitelyNotAnAi yeah, actually that’s very true
Did you make this video or copy it like everything else you copy?
I'm pretty sure the power V bow does nothing when the arrow has already come to a stop, I think it's all on the wind charges.
Jump-boost2 strength2 and a Breeze charge jump one shots a player in prot 4 netherite
minecraft is EVOLVING *procedes to evolve into a worse version lmao
Good thing you can play any version from the launcher instead of bitching endlessly
For once half of the community isn’t complaining, and a lot of people even saying this is the best update in years. And here we are finding people still bitching about shit.
@@JonUhThan88 was talking about me still stuck in 1.8
0:58 Hm, perhaps a better way to resolve people using the elytra in combination with the mace is to make the elytra's durability go down in correspondence with the weight of what you carry where the mace is exceptionally heavy. Or a better idea is to make the elytra lose durability as well as the mace when you use the mace, maybe you can explain this as being the result of the shock from suddenly losing so much momentum affecting the elytra negatively.
I don't disagree with the nerf in a vacuum. But a Power 5 bow from a full speed Elytra has a similar one hit kill effect. If they are nerfing one of these, they should nerf both. If not, leave it alone because it is more consistent with already established game logic for the mace to have higher damage when used with an Elytra.
It is way more difficult to land a shot from flying an elytra, and even if you do, you can't one shot a full prot player
Blud had never tried aiming a moving target while flying at high speeds
Why would anyone want to kill the dog tho?
The whole trial chamber just feels modded to me. I feel like trial chamber generation should be a world gen option that's turned off by default
So, how many bones do you have?
@@somedinguswholikestea 206, same as any other non-amputee. If you're asking in-game from trial chambers, none.
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I thought this was intended behaviour??? Vertical momentum is vertical momentum, it shouldn't matter how it's generated
Not according to game mechanics. You don't technically take falling damage on an Elytra, you take kinetic damage. Kinetic damage is measured by velocity and not distance like falling damage is. I don't know why Mojang chose to calculate damage that way but it was probably easier than having to calculate kinetic damage because you slammed into a wall on your Elytra and then also have to calculate separately what damage you took from falling.
@@sergeantsapient I don't know what fall damage, elytra damage and mace damage all use internally but they all should just use velocity.
Fall and mace damage should use just the vertical component and elytra the direction perpendicular to the surface you slammed into
@@KYO297 I kind of agree but I think when they added Elytras they probably didn't want to drastically alter how fall damage is calculated as that could have other effects down the line. For example, Feather Falling mitigates a portion of fall damage but not the kinetic damage from smacking into a surface with an Elytra which I believe is only mitigated by armor and Protection and that does make some sense. If I had to guess, there would other things that would have to be altered to make fall damage consistent with velocity like kinetic damage, like landing on powdered snow and slime or honey blocks which completely negate fall damage.
IT GOD BUFFED LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The piglin also would be surviving in the overworld. We need water which doesn’t work in the nether and piglins need to stay in the nether to not zombiefy
So many dogs were harmed in the making of this video. 😔
"nerfed"
I like that it's powerful, but should be some kind of limit
After the “mace is OP” video, we all knew this was bound to happen. But it is still cool that the mace still hits that hard.
No
Yes
YESN'T
Mace is still op
aaaand they ruined it again! without elytra it is pretty much impossible to hit a moving player
wind charges:
womp womp 💀
Ride that pearl!
This is a good move
I would be upset that they removed the depth that elytra adds to the mace, but honestly I just can't bring myself to care. I think adding a weapon like the mace is going to do nothing but make a mess anyways.
I'm astonished Mojang decided to add a weapon that has quite literally infinite damage potential. I pray that they have considered the ripple effect this decision will have on future updates for the game, because I can't even fanthom what all those consequences will be
And why even add a weapon like the mace to Minecraft? It is only useful for the gimmick of boss one-shotting and player one-shotting, and neither of those things are good for the game so what's the point of adding such a weapon? I really really hope this isn't another blunder from Mojang
@@viniciusgoulart5077 LMAO, there will be no consequences. "point of adding such weapon" Read your comment, kid. Also, no those things you mentioned are good for the game.
Man, Minecraft community loves complaining when Mojang adds something yet they complained when they don't add something.
@@GoTouchSomeGrassBro you are pretty dumb if you think adding an easy to use, portable, and reusable oneshoting weapon does not have consequences
@@viniciusgoulart5077 this is the purpose of the mace, to one shot someone. Its easy to dodge while the other is flying with an elytra by shotting him arrows and the moment they land you can start attacking them.
@@GoTouchSomeGrassBroYou maybe could convince me that the boss one-hit is good, but how on earth is player one-hit "good for the game"?
Im happy its not the nerf i was expecting I the elytra still kills you so i do still think this is stupid using it only gets you to the max falling speed quicker that's all, the mace couldnt save you form the elytra kinetic damage as it not fall damage which is another reason i think this is stupid but hey in bedrock you can cancel flight in air and in java you can just switch it out or take it off so the only real loss is getting to the max falling speed.
how it nerfed?
Elytra+mace combo doesn't work anymore
That's aMACEing! (ok it didn’t even spell correctly🤦♂️)
Okay. Simple enough, you can technically still can use it with elytra.
that poison arrow is useless btw. cause totems remove all effects
These comments are something else man, genuinely nothing changes you can just take the elytra off and it works the same. Using an elytra the whole time made the 1 hit kill way too easy imo, you should at least should have to hit an MLG for it
bad
Nah, blud is making videos of the strategy that I already wrote in other comment sections with the chest piece swap xD
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
called it