In my youth back in the End street Shukokai Dojo had pleasure to train with Sensei Des Botes, but most of my training was with Sensei Lionel Marinos incredibly honoured to have done so. Patrick Joseph, Alistair Bisschoff, Alex Couto were all youngsters coming up in their gradings. Met Sensei Kimura a couple of times. Best time of my life ever.
Sensei Kimura was a special person. Humble by understanding the body mechanics! I was lucky have spent 8 years with him! Also getting two black belt from Sensei Tani!
You were fortunate to have trained w/ Kimura Sensei & Tani Sensei. I met Tani Sensei in ‘91 but a problem in transportation prevented me from training w/ him.
@@edsmith5848 Sensei Tani came to visit in Hackensack and Tenafly! I had the gracious honor to train with two of his students in Tenafly! That’s when Sensei Kimura was focusing on the left punch and wanted to teach and show Sensei Tani students how powerful it was! I remembered Sensei Kimura telling me to put my right hand in my belt. I could only spar with the left hand. And I did very well! Very fast! He believed if the left was weak then the right would be too! And if you hit them hard with the left? It would make them think??? Hmmm... The right must be deadly! So they were very careful when you hit them with that left. Quite a hit! To this day! He always had a giggle with that technique! Perfection!
You were very fortunate and as you say Sensei Kimura was a special karateka. I started training in Shukokai in 1974 with Brian Helsby and Peter Consterdine, I still train although mainly solo these days
I had the pleasure of training with Sensei Smith from a child to a teenager. He had great patience with me when I look back now. Karate not only trained my body to be more agile and lighter on my toes but also my character/mind to be disciplined in my work ethic. Thank you Sensei Smith
I studied Shukokai from 1977-2012, having previously studied wado Ryu. In fact I've moved between GoJu Ryu and Shukokai for decades . I became very ill in 2019 and have not trained since. I miss it terribly.
Another great episode...Found Sensei Ed Smith's block and punch technique fascinating. Thanks for sharing all the magnificent knowledge of these 52 Masters series. Excellent Job!
Shukokai is my style. Sensei Ed displayed a great representation of what Shukokai karate is about. Our practices look very similar here in NJ. Thanks for the support in the MA Karate community.
@@davdooo-k9w I didn't know we had one in Hawthorne! May I ask who teaches there? I'm currently out of state finishing school, but when I return to NJ I might be bouncing between Tenafly and Pearl River.
I have no idea what is wrong with UA-cam, this channel is really good content, should have higher subs. Plenty of martial arts people who appreciate content from a person who genuinely loves what he is providing.
Wow! This is good technical methodology and good technical instruction!!! I'm seeing a lot of parallels with Shukokai Karate and Ashihara style Karate! Especially with regard to moving the aggregate mass of the body in conjunction with executing the striking motions of the martial art system!
Good eye. A friend & fellow Sensei in California (Brad Burklund) is Ashihara trained. We shared & I learned a few “nice” things about Tai Sabaki & leg kicks.
Sensei Lionel and Chris Thompson are excellent masters of Shukokai and the lady Eddie Daniels I’ve trained with all of them and St. George from Finland is excellent
@@edsmith5848 Sensei B Brewsaw wasn’t Kimura’s favorite! I remember one time at a training session! S Kimura told Bill to leave! Even though Sensei Brewsaw is high ranking! To this day! He still doesn’t understand the technique!!! Sensei Kimura was trying to change the stance and technique in the early 90’s Sensei Kimura would say often. Bill you’re just not getting it! Then after a few hours. He would ask Bill to leave. Remembered Sensei Mac Albus was training next to me! And we looks at each other and shrugged our shoulders! Sensei Kimura really didn’t like Bill! Just the plain truth! Bill was just a bit delayed.
@@edsmith5848 I was lucky before Sensei passed away. Just a few of us were working with him on circles in regards to punching. Being very squared, tight circle and having our technique sharp and able to strike with either hand with equal power. Plus showing us block and hit together! It was as I say to this day! High tech karate! It was a gift! That he showed us!
Body Mechanics 360 Martial Arts Interesting... As I stated, I traveled from CA & was only able to make 3 WCIC. Of all the chief instructors, I got the most from Marinus & Thompson. Sensei Thompson & I had a talk following the last WCIC - he was friendly & direct. He invited me to join KSI but I explained that prior to my 1st WCIC, I’d joined Shito-ryu Shukokai Union under Yamada. Leaving so soon after affiliation would have been bad manners. He understood. Norm & Chris Ensil have continued to be my friends for years.
I found this gem quite by fate I guess. Someone had posted on FB that they had just gotten their BB in Shukokai Karate. I never heard of it so I did a YT search to see what it looked like. The first video I came across honestly did not impress me. Then I tried this video. Very Nicely done!!! Not only the video work, but also the interview and the teaching. So now, I obviously am going to check out the other videos on this channel. BTW: I am a (low rank) Uechi ryu guy. The wrist blocks/strikes Sensei Smith demonstrates (at 9:33) is straight out of a Uechi technique and part of the Uechi kata Konchin.
Thank you for your kind words. Shukokai is international & there are many interpretations but the key component within what Chojiro Tani & Shigeru Kimura pursued & taught is the effective application of body mechanics to produce maximum impact w/o relying on just muscles. Good luck in your search. Ed Smith
@@m.jenkins8503 What I mean... Circular motion with your impact, blocks, etc... Missing from the video. Torque and compaction gives you a circle that releases the power without seeing it. It’s internal! Not just straight in! It may look straight in. But it’s not! Circular motion is the hidden secret of the technique!
@@edsmith5848 I have to say Sensei I very much enjoyed your explanation of power generation in Shukokai. I started it in 1977 after four years of wado Ryu but never felt I grasped the essence of the style. As mentioned I moved between GoJu and Shukokai until 2019 when I became ill. Your video so inspired me I began to look for clubs to train at again in my area. I'll almost certainly return to my last club which is GoJu but would love a dabble at Shukokai. I will be 67 years of age tomorrow and not quite as invincible as I believed I was until 2019. Thanks
Antony Ware Thank you for your comments. Today I’m 66 & also started my karate journey in ‘77. Just keep doing whatever you can despite the inevitable aches & pains. Osu!
enjoying watching your series. I, myself, am doing a very similar thing as well. I also post what I can to my yt channel. I started in Sho Rin Ryu in 1978 but my path was altered in the mid 80's to other arts. I too am traveling around the U.S. with my wife and exploring. Part of that adventure I am going to other dojos and training in arts I have little to no experience in, to learn and experience new things. I am 53 heading to 54 in 2020.
Wow, there is so many similarities in the generation of power via body movement. As students, wouldn't it be great to just learn the basic principles to move forward and show appreciation to the Sensei on at least learning the basic body movement to generate above average power and effect, which must be delivered responsibly. If you hit someone, depending on age, in a pressure point you may be sharing a room with bubba down the road.
Thank you for your input. I usually begin my seminars w/ a brief review of legal issues, especially since everyone has a cell phone. The main thing I stress is to keep a clean record because the person you defend yourself against has probably been in trouble w/ the law before. Ed
Sensei Smith, where is the dojo? Also, I know you said you were leaving a lot out but -- was this technique a successor of the double-hip? It looks a bit different than the way some of Kimura's students move in NJ.
+Joe Natale Dojo is in Keaau, just south of Hilo (Puna Hongwanji Temple) as Big Island Shukokai. Not completely Tani’s “Double-hip”. Good eye - you’re correct. There are differences between Kimura’s method as taught by KSI & this. This is more of a hybrid. Thanks for your inquiry. - Ed Smith
@@SenseiFord Hybrid or "midway point" is exactly what came to mind. Thanks for the prompt response! If you're still available -- where can I find out more about how you came to teach this hybrid?
I live across from a MASTER of this discipline I know it, because I see it, in the WAY he trains..... he is like 85 yrs old.................I can see just by the way he trains.............. he is a master. Thank FUCK he likes me heheheheh!
In my youth back in the End street Shukokai Dojo had pleasure to train with Sensei Des Botes, but most of my training was with Sensei Lionel Marinos incredibly honoured to have done so. Patrick Joseph, Alistair Bisschoff, Alex Couto were all youngsters coming up in their gradings. Met Sensei Kimura a couple of times.
Best time of my life ever.
Sensei Kimura was a special person. Humble by understanding the body mechanics! I was lucky have spent 8 years with him! Also getting two black belt from Sensei Tani!
You were fortunate to have trained w/ Kimura Sensei & Tani Sensei. I met Tani Sensei in ‘91 but a problem in transportation prevented me from training w/ him.
@@edsmith5848 Sensei Tani came to visit in Hackensack and Tenafly! I had the gracious honor to train with two of his students in Tenafly! That’s when Sensei Kimura was focusing on the left punch and wanted to teach and show Sensei Tani students how powerful it was! I remembered Sensei Kimura telling me to put my right hand in my belt. I could only spar with the left hand. And I did very well! Very fast! He believed if the left was weak then the right would be too! And if you hit them hard with the left? It would make them think??? Hmmm... The right must be deadly! So they were very careful when you hit them with that left. Quite a hit! To this day! He always had a giggle with that technique! Perfection!
You were very fortunate and as you say Sensei Kimura was a special karateka. I started training in Shukokai in 1974 with Brian Helsby and Peter Consterdine, I still train although mainly solo these days
I had the pleasure of training with Sensei Smith from a child to a teenager. He had great patience with me when I look back now. Karate not only trained my body to be more agile and lighter on my toes but also my character/mind to be disciplined in my work ethic. Thank you Sensei Smith
Nate, was that at my Whittier dojo? Those were some good times w/ good students.
I studied Shukokai from 1977-2012, having previously studied wado Ryu. In fact I've moved between GoJu Ryu and Shukokai for decades . I became very ill in 2019 and have not trained since. I miss it terribly.
Another great episode...Found Sensei Ed Smith's block and punch technique fascinating. Thanks for sharing all the magnificent knowledge of these 52 Masters series. Excellent Job!
+Steve Shiroma Thanks, Steve!
Yes my dojo has been practicing that same technique last several weeks oss!!
Thank you
Fascinating stuff ! To have fun so you keep coming back and working is very important indeed !
+David Markham 😃👍
Thank you. This is only a small portion of my Nagashi-waza/Sen-no-Sen/Irimi method w/ some Impact thrown In because it fits.
Shukokai is my style. Sensei Ed displayed a great representation of what Shukokai karate is about. Our practices look very similar here in NJ. Thanks for the support in the MA Karate community.
👊🙏
Hey, David! Which is your dojo, out of curiosity?
@@joenatale5513 Hawthorne, NJ and where is yours?
@@davdooo-k9w I didn't know we had one in Hawthorne! May I ask who teaches there? I'm currently out of state finishing school, but when I return to NJ I might be bouncing between Tenafly and Pearl River.
@@joenatale5513 Very Nice. Sensei Alex is our instructor
Yeah, Shukokai, my first Karate style, where my heart belongs. Thank you for sharing. 🙏🙏🙏
You shown again true humility and some valuable points which we all could use.
I have no idea what is wrong with UA-cam, this channel is really good content, should have higher subs. Plenty of martial arts people who appreciate content from a person who genuinely loves what he is providing.
Thank you, I do love the journey
Wow! This is good technical methodology and good technical instruction!!!
I'm seeing a lot of parallels with Shukokai Karate and Ashihara style Karate!
Especially with regard to moving the aggregate mass of the body in conjunction with executing the striking motions of the martial art system!
Good eye. A friend & fellow Sensei in California (Brad Burklund) is Ashihara trained. We shared & I learned a few “nice” things about Tai Sabaki & leg kicks.
Sensei Lionel and Chris Thompson are excellent masters of Shukokai and the lady Eddie Daniels I’ve trained with all of them and St. George from Finland is excellent
As I mentioned, I was fortunate to have trained w/ Senseis Bressaw, Thompson, Marinus & Daniels. Wonderful training & camaraderie!
@@edsmith5848 Sensei B Brewsaw wasn’t Kimura’s favorite! I remember one time at a training session! S Kimura told Bill to leave! Even though Sensei Brewsaw is high ranking! To this day! He still doesn’t understand the technique!!! Sensei Kimura was trying to change the stance and technique in the early 90’s Sensei Kimura would say often. Bill you’re just not getting it! Then after a few hours. He would ask Bill to leave. Remembered Sensei Mac Albus was training next to me! And we looks at each other and shrugged our shoulders! Sensei Kimura really didn’t like Bill! Just the plain truth! Bill was just a bit delayed.
@@edsmith5848 I was lucky before Sensei passed away. Just a few of us were working with him on circles in regards to punching. Being very squared, tight circle and having our technique sharp and able to strike with either hand with equal power. Plus showing us block and hit together! It was as I say to this day! High tech karate! It was a gift! That he showed us!
Body Mechanics 360 Martial Arts Interesting... As I stated, I traveled from CA & was only able to make 3 WCIC. Of all the chief instructors, I got the most from Marinus & Thompson. Sensei Thompson & I had a talk following the last WCIC - he was friendly & direct. He invited me to join KSI but I explained that prior to my 1st WCIC, I’d joined Shito-ryu Shukokai Union under Yamada. Leaving so soon after affiliation would have been bad manners. He understood. Norm & Chris Ensil have continued to be my friends for years.
I have to agree
I am a Student from Germany and i where on many WCIC
I love all of the Shihans
R.I.P. Shihan Daniels 🕊️♥️
A thorough and well explained video by Sensei Smith.
🙏👊
Thank you
I found this gem quite by fate I guess. Someone had posted on FB that they had just gotten their BB in Shukokai Karate. I never heard of it so I did a YT search to see what it looked like. The first video I came across honestly did not impress me. Then I tried this video. Very Nicely done!!! Not only the video work, but also the interview and the teaching. So now, I obviously am going to check out the other videos on this channel. BTW: I am a (low rank) Uechi ryu guy. The wrist blocks/strikes Sensei Smith demonstrates (at 9:33) is straight out of a Uechi technique and part of the Uechi kata Konchin.
Thank you for your kind words. Shukokai is international & there are many interpretations but the key component within what Chojiro Tani & Shigeru Kimura pursued & taught is the effective application of body mechanics to produce maximum impact w/o relying on just muscles. Good luck in your search.
Ed Smith
Awesome episode. Great explanation for Go no Sen, Sen no Sen and Sen.
+slickx82 Thanks, as always, for your support!
Thank you.
I really enjoyed this episode!
Thank you
I love my karate😁😁😊😊 but its always nice to see your karate in some other dojo's too
I truly believe that it’s best to experience other MA/ styles. Insulating yourself from the world is usually a problem w/ the teacher.
I trained with Sensei Kimura starting in 1987. This video is good. But remember instill circles!
What do mean by "instill circles"?
@@m.jenkins8503 What I mean... Circular motion with your impact, blocks, etc... Missing from the video. Torque and compaction gives you a circle that releases the power without seeing it. It’s internal! Not just straight in! It may look straight in. But it’s not! Circular motion is the hidden secret of the technique!
@@onestrikeonekillaka6761 I haven't heard some of these terms and phrases in a WHILE! S and everything ... where do you train? :-)
Lovely idea...looking forward to watching the series
(Also, I'm 51!)
So hard to find real hardcore karate dojo today finding one is like finding a hidden gem, so many mcdojos around and a over saturation of bjj today.
Thank you
Trained with Mr. Kimura 40 years ago in the US. Was amazing.
Hackensack or Tenafly?
@@joenatale5513 Hackensack
@@brucesnyder690 wow wonderful! Do you remember what years? Old double hip / punch and thrust with the belts hitting twice, or newer techniques?
you are number one God bless you legend go ahead you amazing
Thank you but I’m FAR from #1. It’s always a journey - sometimes up hill, sometimes down hill, sometimes holes & bumps, sometimes smooth.
I love these!
This is really awesome stuff. Keep up the great work Sensei
Thank you for watching and for your comment!
Thank you.
I vaguely remember Eric Tomlinson from my competition days in the 1970s.
Thank you for remembering Eric. He changed my (karate) life the moment we met. I miss him every now & then.
@@edsmith5848 I have to say Sensei I very much enjoyed your explanation of power generation in Shukokai. I started it in 1977 after four years of wado Ryu but never felt I grasped the essence of the style. As mentioned I moved between GoJu and Shukokai until 2019 when I became ill. Your video so inspired me I began to look for clubs to train at again in my area. I'll almost certainly return to my last club which is GoJu but would love a dabble at Shukokai. I will be 67 years of age tomorrow and not quite as invincible as I believed I was until 2019.
Thanks
Antony Ware Thank you for your comments. Today I’m 66 & also started my karate journey in ‘77. Just keep doing whatever you can despite the inevitable aches & pains. Osu!
I Practice Wado Ryu but regardless, this is some really good stuff 👌🏻
Excellent explanations. Osu!
+isaacflorentine 👊
+isaacflorentine Osu! Thank you for watching and for commenting. I respect you and admire your work.
William
Thanks, Isaac.
Kungfuesque Karate👍😊
enjoying watching your series. I, myself, am doing a very similar thing as well. I also post what I can to my yt channel. I started in Sho Rin Ryu in 1978 but my path was altered in the mid 80's to other arts. I too am traveling around the U.S. with my wife and exploring. Part of that adventure I am going to other dojos and training in arts I have little to no experience in, to learn and experience new things. I am 53 heading to 54 in 2020.
🙏👊
Do an episode of wing chun
Have you heard of Paul Graham from the UK?
Sensei Graham is a karate practitioner with his dojo based in Warrington, correct?
@@SenseiFord great knowledge. Glad to see Paul has respect throughout the world of Karate
Wow, there is so many similarities in the generation of power via body movement. As students, wouldn't it be great to just learn the basic principles to move forward and show appreciation to the Sensei on at least learning the basic body movement to generate above average power and effect, which must be delivered responsibly. If you hit someone, depending on age, in a pressure point you may be sharing a room with bubba down the road.
Thank you 👊
Thank you for your input. I usually begin my seminars w/ a brief review of legal issues, especially since everyone has a cell phone. The main thing I stress is to keep a clean record because the person you defend yourself against has probably been in trouble w/ the law before.
Ed
Sensei Smith, where is the dojo? Also, I know you said you were leaving a lot out but -- was this technique a successor of the double-hip? It looks a bit different than the way some of Kimura's students move in NJ.
+Joe Natale
Dojo is in Keaau, just south of Hilo (Puna Hongwanji Temple) as Big Island Shukokai.
Not completely Tani’s “Double-hip”. Good eye - you’re correct. There are differences between Kimura’s method as taught by KSI & this. This is more of a hybrid. Thanks for your inquiry. - Ed Smith
@@SenseiFord Hybrid or "midway point" is exactly what came to mind. Thanks for the prompt response! If you're still available -- where can I find out more about how you came to teach this hybrid?
Joe Natale No website yet but my karate-dedicated email is:
Hedkikrz@gmail.com
I live across from a MASTER of this discipline I know it, because I see it, in the WAY he trains..... he is like 85 yrs old.................I can see just by the way he trains.............. he is a master. Thank FUCK he likes me heheheheh!
What is his name? Thanks.
ossu awesome
OSU!
+Dan 👊
His interpretation of Go no sen and sen no sen is erroneous.