1000HP SINGLE TURBO BMW E90 CANTCU 335 DCT SETUP
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2023
- In this video we attempt to get the BMW E90 Converted DCT car working. The owner has been struggling with various issues over the last few years running the HTG controller and decided to see if the CanTCU DCT controller would actually get his 1000hp beast working again!
The car runs a Haltech and this was our first CanTCU install, so was a massive learning curve, please come along for the journey.
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I'm running a CANTCU on a 2nd gen 8HP50 behind an M50B28 turbo in an e30 and I'm very happy with it. Got paddle shifters and an F82 DCT shifter, all working together with DBW controlled by ECUmasters Black.
What power level are you running?
@@SinghsPlace
At the moment it is running approximately 240rwkw but has made 360rwkw on E85. I have not tuned the new ECU and cams yet so keeping it on base level for now.
Kenneth from CANTCU has also been so helpful to me and to all his customers - even the ones that refuse to read instructions! ;-)
@@peted3637 appreciate the quick response, I’m in between a hp45 or hp70. I have very limited room but 600hp to the wheels right now.
@@SinghsPlace
At 480whp it was theoretically making ~ 700NM at the crank. The 8HP50 may become a bit challenged past that point and limiting the TQ in the midrange will probs be necessary. Serious TQ reduction on shift will also be needed. The 8HP50 is just so easy and cheap to get so it was a no brainer. I do have an 8HP70 under the bench, but the OEM TCU was ripped out for an HTG build. Hard to find 70s now though.
BTW, I don't think I'd bother with the 8HP45.
@@peted3637 I read the 8hp50 was 500NM
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZF_8HP_transmission
Duuuuuuuude. Im so glad you're here!
THANK YOU!!!! Hope things get better over there! Definitely love the e90 content!
Thanks man!
So glad to see a new video from you Andrew! 😊 lots going on in my world too but just pulling for you in every way!
Thanks man!
Glad to see you back. Hope everything with the laptop "thing" sorts out soon.
Glad to see you back! Hope you've been well
Thank you! How are you going? Still have the 46?
Love how nice the CANTCU seems to be, I want to 8hp swap my e60 n54 car. Thanks for the new video, I appreciate the content more than I can express
Our pleasure!
Glad to see ya back on! Hope you had a great thanksgiving! I bought a GTX3582R with the T51R mod. So I’m going big single finally. It should be here tomorrow, I’ll keep you posted, I’m going to get a top mount Speedtech kit after Christmas. I put on a phoenix racing port injection plenum & Precision Raceworks ignition a few months ago. Gonna get a stage 3 pump & motiv reflex plus after Christmas & im going to control the lpfp off the reflex along with the mac valve. Keep you updated on here or the other place, I’m a member now. So hope to see you more as hopefully everything gets better after next month. If I don’t talk to you have a great Christmas & a happy new year….✌🏻💪🏻🏁
That thing is awesome. Crazy how quite it is for that much power.
Good stuff Andrew I hope it goes well and next year is back on the front foot for you
Thanks man! I miss my cars so much! This was fun to be around, brought some memories back.
Great driving machine guys. Thanks for sharing. Regards Nico.
Thanks for watching and good to see you in the comments man!
Nice! I'm running a S55 DCT with Cantcu on my 927BHP single turbo N54 E91 it works flawlessly
Did you upgrade the clutches?
that sounds epic. any videos of the e91
Yes, I'm running SSP spec X clutches@@mot8862
Lovely to see a new video from yall❤️
Hope you enjoyed it!
Legit work!
I don’t have any questions but I do like those side skirts on the e90. They look like the drift version that are for e36 models.
Awesome stuff mate!
CanTCU, finally ! I'm about to order 5 units for my customers 😊
Nice!!
1000hp DCT 1.5j is 🔥🔥🔥 those shifts 😍. Dope build‼️
Good work guys
Thank you
Whoooo sooooo happy to see this 😊
Just need a real ecu lol that thing should be on motec or Emtron 😅
UA-cam remembers my subscription!
Well thats a nice surprise... haha hope you are well man
That looks amazing. Genuinely like OEM driving characteristics with super smooth shifts. Really really impressive. What are your thoughts on this versus HTG and Turbolamik?
This had a htg and it just didn’t work with any form of consistency. The lamik is great, but it won’t control a dct.
The 8hp is the shit 👌 have to come and see the shop one day love the shirt btw 😊
hurry up and get over!!!
Nice job andrew i must send you some pics of my turbo fg barra zf6hp26 powered e90 took some time off and now back getting it buttoned up chees from broken hill
Keen to see some pics!
Big Dog DCT, yeahhhhhh buddy!
hell yeah brother!
Using cantcu on my e90 335 2jz 8hp70. It works great and it’s braindead easy to install
Hey buddy. I am looking to do a similar trans swap. I see that you are using an 8hp70. Which model BMW did this come from and was it mounted to your E90 without modifying the body for fitting it?
from n63 motor 550i 750 650@@shanebryan7496
Back to your root guys! Great!
Great build. Certainly puts out heaps of power and torque. Unfortunately, being a rear wheel drive vehicle, I doubt if he will ever be able to put that level of power to the ground but it would be fun trying.
You would have pretty easy at the drag strip. I am keen to see how it goes at rolls tho..... feels nippy
Maxxxecu is always a option
One day ima do a 8hp swap 👍
I have a E46 M52 being turbocharged, got a 8hp45 from 120, looking to do the swap.
Is this your 1st use of CanTCU. Why not TurboLamik TCU? Is that ZF8hp only? You are definitely the only shop that appears transparent and trustworthy , and getting favorable results, IMHO for these swaps. From my understanding, the ZF 8HP appears superior for street and track in all characteristics and use scenarios. What do you think, DCT seem obsolete by now, what can it do better than ZF8hp, seems like nothing? What are, if any vehicles, have you done that are completely dialed in and with what eng/trans/TCU ? I agree, I have not seen other channnel/project videos showing working cars with around town drivability.
Thanks. I'm in SoCal, if I was local to you, I would have you swap ZF8hp in my Silvia(SR20det), Rx7 FD 13b, R33 GTS-t RB25det and HJ61 12H-t Land Cruiser(has A440 automatic). Can TurboLamik TCU integrate with these cars OEM TCU's ? Also Pajero EVO would be transformative. Best Regards!
Yes, first CanTCU. We havent had any issues with the Lamik, however they are only 8hp. You are spot on the 8hp is much more forgiving for street use. I also think the extra ratios help the 8hp in the speed department. BUt there is not hiding a lot of people want the DCT. And a lot of people have spent a lot of money on DCT conversions that cant use them. Of the cars you mentioned none are supported with OEM lamik intergration.
Can we have some more content please. 😊
1023Nm is the max the TCU can read basically, so you cant send more than that :) Regarding the auto mode, different Drivelogic mode will change the auto shift behaviour noticable.
Hope you have been well man!
@@ZeroTo60Tube Yes thanks, nice to see a new video! :)
Need more N54 content love your videos keep making more content or maybe some b58 too
More to come!
I was wondering you mentioned you'd give another try at a budget forged build. Thinking you'd utilize a machinist /engine builder to really analyze the budget rods and pistons and give insight on what could be done to make those same budget rods effective and at what power level and would be the highest power level achievable via tuning. Honestly were all waiting for you to revist the budget build car to actually diagnose the end result . I'm an Og of the channel and own two n54s lol So where alway looking for conformation to proceed ...@@ZeroTo60Tube
@@ZeroTo60Tube glad your posting again. We all miss you guys ! Hello 👋 from Las Vegas NV!
this weekend, the e92 is back
@@ZeroTo60Tube yes SIR
Havent seen your video for a long time. Btw i tried the mfactory single mass flywheel. My car has this terrible noise at low rpm. Im not sure if it has anything to do with my hard transmission mount. Are you on stock mounts?
I just replace my transmission mount to the stock ones. The effect as day and night.
i see this cars taillights in my nightmares
Hi, what would it take to go from an GM box auto E82 125i N52 to a ZF8HP? im sure there are many N52 125/130 guys who would love to do this swap. the 8HP45 probably from the N20 would work.
Bring back the old school videos
Man, i'd love to.
Cool video :) any chance you can please name the front bumper?
i have no idea.... hopfully someone else sees this
Hey man i know this is really off topic but i remember you speaking before about people you know rebuiliding their n54's with the chinese rebuild kits ... Any news on those ? How was the quality of the parts ? Any info on how theyre doing long term ? Thanks man !
All the ones i know of made good power but also had engine failures not long after. Which goes for any built motor. Once you are past 700whp there is no reliability.
Sick build ! What headlights are being used on this pre lci ?
They are actually an aftermarket headlight replacement.
@@ZeroTo60Tube do you happen to know the name of them or a link to them that would be awesome love the videos man well informed on all builds and a big help the community
I dont sorry@@calleverops
Please tell me your going to also do a di delete when the kit drops for rhe N54 !!!👍
Absolutely
can you help me with some information? I want to do a B58 engine and transmission swap in the E90 but there’s no guide on what I would need to get it to work
I can't speak with any experience, but i would look in to Maxxecu to control the engine, you will need to delete DI. And a lamik or cantcu to do the trans.
Where's the best place to source a replacement TCU and loom? I'm in the same boat with an r31 skyline with 26/30 and 7 speed dct with htg ecu. It's a work in progress and I'm thinking of biting the bullet and going cantcu, but need to source stock TCU and loom for it
They are hard to find. Its likely worth just buying a complete spare DCT box.
@@ZeroTo60Tube yeah I'm kinda at that point hey lol would be easier just to buy a whole new box and just use that one and sell the converted one
SLG have them in stock
Hey man !! Whats up with the n54 oil dip stick ! I need to buy one please and thank you 🙏
Hey man, we never sold them publically as when you unplug the factory oil level sensor the the oil temp on the dash switches to coolant temp.
@@ZeroTo60Tube damn so only way to cure that is standalone ECU right ?😭
Seeing how brake input disengages the clutch there isn’t brake boosting in a DCT ?
You can brake boost. There are a few conditions that have to be met for it to open the clutches. If you are accelerating and braking it will keep the clutches engaged. Even if braking while decelerating and with keep them engaged for engine braking. However depends on how much torque the engine making
Using cantcu with an 8hp on a big single n54.coulsnt be happier
whats the full car setup?
Pte 6466 at 28 psi on full E with an 8hp45X.
For drive logic modes I used the factory m3 buttons and wired them through cantcu to control it for the oem plus llok as a bit of an idea for the car :)
@@ZeroTo60Tube went with an 8hp45 to find the limits as nobody could give me a real answer. So far after 100-200 pulls it hasn't skipped a beat. I do recall you saying the benefits of a 70 over a 45 but never really went into detail. I'd love to know your thoughts on it
So pure race application with no torque reduction (anything using a clutch pedal) the 8hp45 we broke one at 500whp in about 2 mins. The 70s seem much much stronger. Now you add some torque reduction to the mix and the 8hp45 will hold a lot more. But you loose a lot of the agression with torque reduction on.@@Twittenberg
@@ZeroTo60Tube makes alot of sense. In Canada we can get the 45's for about $500-$750CAD. 70's about $2000-$3000CAD. Seemed like a good excuse too test it lol. Been using Ken's custom settings and it's been an absolute delight to drive.
Hi Andrew - first i appologise that i misuse this video - but i feel if i use an older video it may go unseen
For quite some time I think of 8hp swaping my manual E90 LCI 325i xDrive using the cantcu
I see quite some informations for the 8hp45 on the N54 - eg. your video series on the 135i, but the N53 are rather rare
I can not remember where I read it, but the main gist of it was
that with a 1st gen h8hp45 from an N55 powered F30 or F10 the mechanical side of the install should be quite the bolt on experience.
Saying: replace the DMF for the Auto Flywheel with flexplate, use the 8hp45 with its converter, replace the F-Series TC with the E90 transfercase, drifeshafts can be reused
add a shifter the cantcu likes (eg the F-Series 8hp Shifter or the E9x DCT Shifter from x35 cars)
sort out the wireing and add the cantcu, recode the car from MT to AT and you are good to go
can you confirm or revoke those statements - since you have so much experience with those gearboxes
hope your troubles are sorted out soon and you can leave that stuff in the past
regards
Hi There, yes you are all correct. My only concern you may need to change the output flange on the 8hp45.
@@ZeroTo60Tube
Awesome - Thank You VERY much for your reply
I will check this - my E90 has a ATC300 and the F10 N55 has a ATC350
- funny enough the X1 E84 with N52N Engines also have the ATC350 like the F-Series
oh well - need to do some digging
THANKS for the Info - have a nice day
@@odie0815 im sorry i didnt realise yours was xdrive. I am fairly confident the xdrive box will bolt in fine. Easier than the rwd swaps.
Isn't dbw kinda the go to answer for modern builds?
Absolutely! However this was originally built about 5 years ago.
@@ZeroTo60Tube fair do's
hey i have a 6hp21 i wanna mate to my m52 engine to run high 400 to low 500hp how can i go about that
Would the cantcu have any benefit installed into a factory dct car?
No, not at all. Unless you were e series, you could change to a f series transmission.
Doing a similar swap with my E90. Wondering if I should go CanTCU from the start?
Depends what you are doing with the car. Factory DCT will work fine. You wont gain any features with the Cantcu currently.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Drag/Roll Racing. ~1200whp 2J swap with an E9X M3 DCT
then you will definitely need cantcu. There is no compareable controller for the DCT transmission. I have heard good things about DKGECU, but not tried one myself.@@LegendaryDrumr
@ZeroTo60Tube Looks like CanTCU is the way to go from watching this video. I'm using MaxxECU for the engine and I've been reading that it can control the DCT as well but I haven't seen it in action like you showed in the video
for e series DCT, the maxx and cantcu will work the same. however maxx doenst currently support f series DCT. @@LegendaryDrumr
Now I just want to put an e60 550i v8 with a dct in my wife e92 335i
Where’s the power limit on these gearboxes? I’d love to use one in a drag/drive car
I would not recomend DCT for drag application at all. 8hp for drag. In fact 8HP for everything..... faster, stronger, smoother...... 8hp every day
@@ZeroTo60Tube As in "8HP THE WORLD??" LOL.
Any updates on Dans e46 m3??? 😜
Sitting pretty on a lift, which is where its been for about 6 monhts. Currently has a b58 in its engine bay..... :P
@@ZeroTo60Tube Nice, so next vid B58 dyno runs!! 😜
the real dilema..... whats going to happen first me get time to make a video or dan get time to finish his car lol...... oh man 8speed has been brilliant, but my gosh we are run off our feet@@ashleycullen6335
I guess ill go buy a htg gcu to see what all the fuss is about.
HTG needs to learn how torque management works, Seen a bunch of broken DCT's because the torque reduction doesn't work properly.
CANTCU is a great option.
I dont think its a torque management issue....... But many other issues with the product/software. I've spoken to many with damaged DCTs whos engines dont make enough power to hurth the DCT clutches. Then all the 8hp70 failures as well, which will take an absolute spanking with out torque management.
@@ZeroTo60Tube It depends on the user I guess, my buddy has a supra with a DCT. While on the HTG he broke gears after gears. Car makes about 900 ft-lbs.
Swapped to CanTCU with proper torque management and has not had anymore issues.
@@ZeroTo60Tube i got a 1st gen pt cruiser 2.4 sportswagon 2door panel van conversion just had new luk sac clutch fitted but idiot in bham never heard of self adjusting clutch keeps sayin no such thing as a magic clutch so i am unfortunatley gonna have to buy replacement tools stands trolley jack & fit it myself wen my breathing will allow it as reg.disabled. but my ask if i were to turn the block as i'd wish for either awd or rwd, do u kno if its possible to try keep it plug n play would chryslers tcm trans contol module with a re-flash be compatable for the 8hp70 on basically no budget to do 8sp seq or dct bcoz i can source chrysler/merc or chrysler/dodge tcm easily enough & a 8hp70 if i miss a few meals i still gotta feed the dog on demand as my bigbadbud likes gettin his teeth into stuff(he mike tyson a birds ear in redditch.uk where we live"she did her best to piss him off first then gave him a scooby snack+stupidly tried2take it back,so well my k9bud stood up on two legs grappled her+one snap as a warning2her during which this bird sarah lost the top of an ear.it cudn't be found but so you'all kno what she's like my dog was muzzled for her protection only+also she later blamed her fella daver+told police he'd bit it off.after tryin get in my pants hrs after bein bit wen she turned up at my door after askin my mate lesley where i live.took hrs get rid of her said i prefer a fuller body wen lesley heard she piss'd herself laughin.☆joedog+mybigbadbud☆pt~van☆
Does the cantcu dct can do clutch kicks ?
It can with f series dct, but its not recomended. The factory TCU doenst have the tuneability to react to a clutch pedal input like the turbo lamik. Howveer that may change.
Hi man how ar u hope all good God bless
Hey man! heaps going on. Next wednesday is d day!
❤
Can the cantcu be used to dct an e60 m5?
I believe the intergration is very close. That's to a standard s85 dme.
@@ZeroTo60Tube cool, maybe you could do a quick video about if it becomes possible. Thanks
Can this work on an n20 car???
that is very open questions. so yes.
I have a 2013 f30 328i with the n20 4 cylinder and the 8hp so I was wondering if the cantcu would work to build my car into a drift car!
no the cantcu will not suit drifting @@TylerF30
Where’s the old X5 4.6
Gone, had to sell a lot of things to pay some significant bills this year.
Yes it’s been long time, cause last video you have posted your hair was black 😅
We need bmw engine 😔😔
Move to America or Canada u at least drive without police trying sue u
Andrew help me to find a good tuner with a good price
To my n54 🤍
A good tuner will always be expensive...... sorry. The reality is Ken from wedge, he is the one for N54 DME. No one else comes close. However Ken is so down the line he doesnt make you feel good. He doesnt BS about your car. He tells it the way it is. If there is something wrong with your car, he says you have to fix it.
What about jsrtuning ?
I think wedge is the way to go.@@info3132