Roto Grip Optimum Idol & Storm Phaze 2 In Depth Comparison On PBA Viper Oil Pattern!
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2024
- Today we are comparing the all new Roto Grip Optimum Idol and Storm Phaze 2 on the 39 foot PBA Viper Oil pattern! Both of these bowling balls are going to be great options on both sport shots and house shots!
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As primarily a league bowler, i could really appreciate your videos more than the pro review videos. Although you choose to do a sport shot on this video, most of you videos are on house shots which i think most of us can relate to.
Have you considered doing an arsenal video? Showing whats in your bag and what you look for specifically for your league house shots.
Great video !! Keep up the good work!!
I think Phase 2 cover is slightly weaker making it more responsive to dry boards. The Idol appears to have a little more core and cover … making it slightly earlier and rounder. I bet you could have both in a 6 ball arsenal if you knew what you were bowling on beforehand. In an “all - purpose “ 6 ball, I’d say not enough room for both.
I’m essentially a beginner to a little above a beginner bowler and I enjoy your videos. I have very low ball speed (12 mph) and likely super low revs. I bowl on house conditions and I have been thinking about getting a Phase II
Absolutely would be a good option! Just always remember to adjust the surfaces until you get the right spot for you
You’ll also like Brunsnick- Luis and and him are excellent instructions on everything. Love em both. ❤
I had the Idol, and it was my GOAT.. I wish I bought another one to hold on to, but I didn't. After mine cracked I drilled up a phase 2 and absolutely love it.. I am very curious how this new Optimum looks. I had the Helios and I could not stand that ball.
I've had the Phaze II for a while and I love it. My only issue with the Optimum Idol is the color. I might still get it though.
Man I was hoping you would get this review out sooner rather than later. This is gonna be a good one.
Question: Do you have an idea of when you’ll do/release the league play review?
I hope you liked it! I will throw the Idol in league tonight
I'm thinking of getting another that Idol since I already have the Idol synergy, so it'll be a nice ball up from it
This will be the perfect ball up from the Synergy!
Nice hair cut Luis... looking good! I have a Phaze 2. It is in the bag for league, but doesn't get to see a whole lot of lane time since it is pretty strong, even with a medium drilling. It's definitely better for tournament play. Optimum Idol looks like $$$
Would you be able to do a comparison between optimum Idol versus zen gold label? I get Zen GL is cleaner, should be sharper, but I think both should grab the lane earlier because of the core, etc. Would love to see a comparison. Thanks again!
I’m planning on getting a second Phaze II.
I am finally looking to upgrade my ball - love the videos! I throw an old Hyroad X - would recommend any fo the newer balls? like an absolute power / harsh reality? or older like a phaze2?
If you want something similar but newer better wait and get the Road
Your analysis is usually very good Luis. Give yourself a little credit sir. Ult Idol def earlier no doubt. Luv the 7-10 and stone 9 and the end. Beautiful lol
P2 looks like it is shined up more than the Idol. Did you surface them both the same?
Great video as always. I do not know if I told you this yet I finally got my hands on my very first phase too late last month and I have a two ball arsenal now with my IQ tour solid, so I finally have my dream ball originally got the IQ tour when I talk to my Proshop because I want to control as a beginner which definitely did do that for me but I wanted some more action and flare so I can clearly see the difference in shape like you said they both have low RG but what differentiates between the two I have is the higher differential has a unique shape, and the right circumstances shapes well with a good strikes when it doesn’t work, my solid stays a little more straight and it does not shape as much. I am very inconsistent but my scores are getting a little bit better slowly, but surely I may ask what are you planning to do when it comes to bowling ball, reviews and or comparisons plus are you still maybe thinking about doing tutorials/drill videos for us to get better with our game? Thank you you have a good rest of your day.😀🎳
Thats a great one two punch!
I'm planning on getting both the P2 and Optimum Idol. Could a low rev/speed dominant (210ish/17+mph) bowler as myself get away with using the same pin layout on both, or should I do pin up on one and/or surface change to make them more different?
I would do different layout AND different layout!
Getting a phaze 2. How should I drill it? Pin up or pin down? And I'm a 2 finger bowler
Fresh haircut!! And I wonder how the O Idol compares to the Exponent.
Thanks! I think the Idol will be MUCH stronger
So the optimum idol is a nano “Micro” base cover correct?
The older now gone Idol Pro was a solid cover with no nano, basically R2s base.
Is that right ?
no idea LOL I just know its the same cover as the OG Idol
Luke Rosdahl mentioned in one of his reviews that it is indeed the same base formula of the OG idol, just with the nano tech added. So you are correct!
Would you please give the dual angle lay outs also? Thanks
30x4.5x30
@@LuisNapoles thank you sir
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
I love my phaze ii. I wonder if/when the Velocity Core will get the AI treatment.
you just blew my mind LOL
Definitely would like to see this in the Phaze line. Something like a P2.1
Luis in your opinion for bench mark ball for league phaze2 or xponent
Depends on oil volume
thank you luis for posting the real video.. not the selected ones to post.. thats the reality.. the outcome occurs unexpectedly.. bottom line, its the bowlers choice what to use..
Good stuff!!
Thanks!
Is it good to have both balls because I am getting rid of everything the guy at the pro shop drill non spi balls for a right hand bowler and I'm a lefty
Could be yea!
I love how you compared same shots with 2 balls knowing one shot isnt necessarily the best route for a particular ball because thats the only way you can get a thorough comparison of the differences between different balls. You can't just try to line up a strike every throw from the angle thats meant for the ball which a lot of youtubers do.. if im making sense.lol
yea I hear you on that!
Looking forward to the Optimum. I had a p2 before, and I was largely disappointed. Same goes for the OG idol. neither complimented my game.
I wonder when they're going to wrap the velocity core with the AI outer core. call it the next phaze :P
More videos using sport patterns! I like this
You got it!
I am quickly falling in love with the reality check to I can throw it on the fresh or in transition sometimes the xponent doesn't leave my bag I go reality check to xponent pearl
Good stuff man!
Good morning Luis Napoles
Hello!
@@LuisNapoles how are you doing today Luis Napoles
Never had a Phase 2, but I hear good things..
It's an all time great ball !
@LuisNapoles is there a need for the Optimum and the Phase2 in the same bag?
Hey Luis, what ever u have been doing to ur mechanics has really improved. Love ur arm swing. Very smooth. 😇👍
Cool video talk tech bowling ball roto grip optimum idol bowling ball with ai technology in the bowling ball more strike and spares hitting power at time Luis napples
Color wise the Phaze II looks a lot like the old Storm 2Furious
Kool aid looking good!
Not wrong!
If you only bowl on house shot it would be nice to see
I shoot this on house shots as well!
everyone loves the phaze 2 but idk i’ve had mine for like two weeks and im just not that good with it. my highest with it is only 189 :/
Not all of us are gonna match up with every ball! But give it some more tome!
much love man will do
Fresh haircut 💯
yup!
@@LuisNapoles Optimum & Helios in the bag for that RG Jutsu
summit vs idol?
Ill make that happen
Would like to see this also.
Thinking about the Idol, attention star, and maybe the absolute power.
Currently have a summit, P2, and xponent. All 3 give me different options, bowl 2 different houses.
Love your videos and find them to be very helpful. However, I’m not a fan of the turn around and talk to the camera after every shot. Let us see the ball more and give us a summary at the end of the video like you used to.
I just got the Phaze II
Nice! How do you like it
I love it
My favorite ball. It’s an all time great ball.
I just sold my phaze 2 after 9 games. 👀
@@jaywhey8822How come? I’ve tried out my friend’s Phaze II and to me it seems to jumpy and responds really hard and fast.
What is the core that you hope gets the AI treatment the most?
Centripetal C3 core from the !Q series and the Velocity core
I liked the optimum item better.
Same same
@@LuisNapoles you prefer the optimum over the p2?
Not excited, it overlaps with balls I already have.
Which balls? Just wondering is all
you need specto on your reviews...........
Big haircut! 😂
Phaze 2…. Why? Because it’s the Phaze 2 lol
Dude are you just recording your strike shots noway u cant strike all day with that swing lol
How do you think it stacks up against the Cosmos? I feel they may overlap because of how strong the Cosmos cover is.