what lol? are you daft? pieray was meant to be used by devs and not regular players. if mojang decided to hide pieray behind a command, would you cry the same way towards mojang? Q.E.D , L
@@hippityhoppity5035 neither of us would lol. not sure if you actually watched the video but if this decision was made by Mojang then I don't think anyone would make a big deal about it. the point of this video is that the purity server owner shouldn't be the one to say that a vanilla feature is not allowed anymore. it's not because penguin said that "it wasn't intended" that he's right on that.
As a rather casual player just trying to hide his base, I strongly agree. It is so easy to counter pie ray that most of us probably flew around the overworld with the feature on while not knowing there is a base underground (unless you play on uneasy or simply, their playerbase seem to have never heard of that feauture lmao). I mean Purity staff could also hire a few players to check, but this probably assumes that the money flows to more than the server bills and their pockets.
Good video, and mostly agreed on all points. I know of at least one post on the official Mojang feedback site suggesting that the pie chart and other F3 tools be individually toggleable by server owners - that way if admins prefer a more immersive experience without use of the debug screen certain features can be simply disabled, instead of having to "ban" them and cause a whole host of headaches from players trying to circumvent their rules. (/reducedDebugInfo already exists as a gamerule but since that also disables coords it probably won't be accepted on most servers.) Either way, this toggle seems like it would be a good compromise.
Do what eusurvival did and force base hunters to record. Not too hard to get a good clipping tool or just record during a base hunting session. Rly disables any hacking
"Why can't you just record yourself using pieray" Because then someone will ESP a shulker, fly backwards, turn off ESP, turn on pieray, and then start recording. Pieray is a worthy sacrifice (if you can even call it that) to catch the countless people using ESP and excusing their actions with pieray, which is hard to prove one way or the other. The only people actually upset about this decisions are poor basehunters who don't know enough about basehunting to be able to use anything but aimless flying with pieray, or people who wanted to keep using this cop out of a basehunting tool for content.
idk if you've actually watched or not because I kinda cover this topic. The thing is that the pieray would have shown a shulker aswell. so that shulker wouldve been found with PieRay just as good as with ESP. PieRay is to be used with other base hunting techniques obviously. You're not gonna find more than just spawn bases if you don't do more than just flying around. PieRay is not as OP as ESP in a lot of cases because for example you can't spot nether portals etc. It's a vanilla feature and it gets treated as that by most servers. I wish you could see the point i'm trying to make with this video but sadly I don't think I'd change your mind no matter what argument I say. I do enjoy your content so yeah keep it up and if you ever wanna do something together hmu on discord
I did watch the whole video. Yeah technically you could find the shulker with pieray. I can also get several dubs full of carpets without using a carpet duper, but the duper saves a substantial amount of time. Besides that, the person ESPing shulkers is also probably ESPing other things that won't show up on pieray. It's a commonly abused hack on Purity but one that can have gamebreaking results if the mods don't pick up on it, and they can't always pick up on it. Pieray's ban however should reduce the amount of ESP by an observable amount.
@@glace_ Well that's where the difference is. the pieray isn't an actual glitch and if someone esps something that doesn't show up on pieray then its an ez ban right?
@@Skotoseme what if you ESP a chest (don't know how it works) put a shulker at the base, cover your digging and fly back using pieray and record there?
Well said bro. I'm a purity guy through and through. As far as I'm concerned, despite its flaws purity is the best vanilla anarchy server around. But your criticism is 100% on point. I hope this decision dosent kill the server or snowball in to more dumb shit.
@@Skotoseme unfortunately your probably right. I'm taking the opportunity to diversify my vanilla anarchy portfolio lmao. I joined uneasy and a few others recently.
@@dtectatl1 amazing! yeah i think that's just the way to do this stuff like. Idk why anyone should be like loyal to just 1 server lol it's not like a marriage even tho people do see it like that sometimes
I'd love to try purity, but I've waited an hour in the queue before and was still in 10th place. There's no way it's worth the wait every time you join the server.
@@redsynister4836 I pay for a full join now but early on I had no rank. The q is really not that bad you probably were on a very high traffic night or something.
I have played Minecraft on a laptop before and to open at three you need to click shift and at three because you’re on a laptop I don’t know how they would band that ?
Well, technically if there's a lot of chests, their percentage on the pieray will significantly spike, so in theory you could find even chest-only stash without ESP.
now that pie ray is banable what does people stop from using esp? both things get treated the same way… if you wanna use pie ray why not using esp now that it has the same outcome?I understand why its banned, because it makes it easier for the staff team but I don’t think it should be the way to go. People who hack, will do it anyways even after they get banned. Prevent that from happening and stop perm banning people for stupid things like pie ray. whatever…
Did you actually think Purity had good staff members? TOP KEK. It is very hard indeed to moderate a large minecraft server while also dilating with your other hand.
@@Skotoseme I see. Importing the subtitles on YT would be better imo. Also, I forgot to ask: won’t mobs show like villagers and hostile mobs show up in the pie ray along with animals? If so, how can you deal with that?
@@Anas-gz4my yeahhh villagers will show up on your pieray im pretty sure.. no real reason to deal with that one sadly. you can however make your trading hall a few thousand blocks away from your base just to be sure. as i also said tho that most people won't look on the entities pieray
Based and Based loved the vid bro sorry you left purity and we couldn’t really become bros but I feel like we would’ve been bros so good luck on your channel future bro 👊 WAIT BRO NO DONT MENTION REPLAY MOD BROOOOO lol
to be honest, the banning of pie ray does more good than bad. Base hunters who are actually good at doing what they do, don’t need pie ray, and most didn’t use it before it became mainstream. there are so many false bans about esp, and appeals being made with the excuse/explanation “I was using pie ray and saw a pearl”. Banning it clears up 2 things. The possibility for false bans because of someone using pie ray, and the excuse that espers can use. Purity Vanilla has bigger problems with staff and rules than something that could be fairly considered an exploit.
however the mods have never been good. they don’t do Screensharing and half the time they don’t ask for Logs, no warnings, etc. it’s just “oh it seems like you might have hacked. Banned!” and that’s not the right way to do things, but they refuse to change it
the thing is It shouldn't have been made a huge deal because as you said a lot of base hunters use other methods aswell. What I'm trying to say with this video tho is that there's no good reason to ban pieray if you just ask people to record their pov if they want to use pieray then there can't be any doubt about if they are hacking or using legitmate methods. That way people have a choice at least and it doesn't feel like purity is just trying to be lazy with ban appeals. PieRay is always a vanilla feature no matter how you look at it.
Mojang should have removed it years ago. If someone running a server is fixing problems with Minecraft that Mojang is too lazy to fix, then I consider that a good thing.
But what if you download the map and then use pieray on there? Its not purity vanilla, so your allowed too do that. and then after just visit the base in the actual server xD
Real vanilla players do not use f3 screen... It is a debug screen... It's not should be used in gameplay... Only when you need debugging or trouble shooting. Having real time coordinates,times, chunks info and an entity checker in survival Minecraft.... doesn't seem survival anymore. This is what I personally think and how i played this game for more than 10 years and I think it's great pleasure...the feeling of exploring is incomparable. i guess the owner just wants to defend the players from little immature kids who have fun and feel special to find base and destroy them to feel cooler ... with no purpose in the game and no respect or regard for certain constructions.
I agree for some of this. Navigation alone from F3 removes the core uses of compasses, maps, trail markers, and a lot more (like the more in-depth functionality and skills for mapping and navigation). However I can see the point of disregarding the many regular navigation features for an anarchy server, especially because of the size of the world. I would kind of prefer a server without coords available at all times, but there should be some way to find bases in a world so large (and most people I play with love coords enabled)
Banning pieray is like banning crafting.
what lol? are you daft? pieray was meant to be used by devs and not regular players. if mojang decided to hide pieray behind a command, would you cry the same way towards mojang? Q.E.D , L
Let's ban minecraft
@@hippityhoppity5035 Prove it
@@hippityhoppity5035 neither of us would lol. not sure if you actually watched the video but if this decision was made by Mojang then I don't think anyone would make a big deal about it. the point of this video is that the purity server owner shouldn't be the one to say that a vanilla feature is not allowed anymore. it's not because penguin said that "it wasn't intended" that he's right on that.
@@hippityhoppity5035 no then it would be vannila
Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.
I play on the server had no idea that Purity staff was this bad
As a rather casual player just trying to hide his base, I strongly agree. It is so easy to counter pie ray that most of us probably flew around the overworld with the feature on while not knowing there is a base underground (unless you play on uneasy or simply, their playerbase seem to have never heard of that feauture lmao).
I mean Purity staff could also hire a few players to check, but this probably assumes that the money flows to more than the server bills and their pockets.
true true you can find something on uv and sv in like seconds at spawn pieraying lmao
This video makes me think about an Edok quote: "Fun has been disabled due to an exploit"
AHAHAH wow that really fits this situation perfectly
Good video, and mostly agreed on all points.
I know of at least one post on the official Mojang feedback site suggesting that the pie chart and other F3 tools be individually toggleable by server owners - that way if admins prefer a more immersive experience without use of the debug screen certain features can be simply disabled, instead of having to "ban" them and cause a whole host of headaches from players trying to circumvent their rules. (/reducedDebugInfo already exists as a gamerule but since that also disables coords it probably won't be accepted on most servers.) Either way, this toggle seems like it would be a good compromise.
Great video, waiting for the next one ;)
Hell yeahh
Great Video! The server is shaped for staff ease rather than the community and its always been like that since the very beginning, trust me.
at least purity queue remains unaffected!
dude are you that guy that got the world record in purity parkour queue??
UNAFFECTED!? HOW AM I SUPPSOED TO FIND THE JUMP AND RUN SECTION THAT I DID A THOUSAND TIMES ARLEADY WITHOUT ESPING THE CAMPFIRE!?
😭😭😭
@@Skotoseme duuuuude i got all of em
Do what eusurvival did and force base hunters to record. Not too hard to get a good clipping tool or just record during a base hunting session. Rly disables any hacking
yesss fr based pok
*esps base then goes back and records pie ray*
Lol clearly didnt watch or understand if you say that
@@Skotoseme there is also issues with those who have bad computers and cant run mc and record viably, it would be very unfair to those people
Now its unfair to everyone. Also there are really low end recordint programs that can work on almost every pc
the worst part isnt that, the staff team grief people bases by doing /vanish and tp to any player they want to
You make a good point but I think purity should just disable the elytras so that base hunters can’t be a thing
LMAOO
Oh. So it's you.
"Why can't you just record yourself using pieray"
Because then someone will ESP a shulker, fly backwards, turn off ESP, turn on pieray, and then start recording. Pieray is a worthy sacrifice (if you can even call it that) to catch the countless people using ESP and excusing their actions with pieray, which is hard to prove one way or the other. The only people actually upset about this decisions are poor basehunters who don't know enough about basehunting to be able to use anything but aimless flying with pieray, or people who wanted to keep using this cop out of a basehunting tool for content.
Cope
idk if you've actually watched or not because I kinda cover this topic. The thing is that the pieray would have shown a shulker aswell. so that shulker wouldve been found with PieRay just as good as with ESP. PieRay is to be used with other base hunting techniques obviously. You're not gonna find more than just spawn bases if you don't do more than just flying around. PieRay is not as OP as ESP in a lot of cases because for example you can't spot nether portals etc. It's a vanilla feature and it gets treated as that by most servers. I wish you could see the point i'm trying to make with this video but sadly I don't think I'd change your mind no matter what argument I say.
I do enjoy your content so yeah keep it up and if you ever wanna do something together hmu on discord
I did watch the whole video. Yeah technically you could find the shulker with pieray. I can also get several dubs full of carpets without using a carpet duper, but the duper saves a substantial amount of time. Besides that, the person ESPing shulkers is also probably ESPing other things that won't show up on pieray. It's a commonly abused hack on Purity but one that can have gamebreaking results if the mods don't pick up on it, and they can't always pick up on it. Pieray's ban however should reduce the amount of ESP by an observable amount.
@@glace_ Well that's where the difference is. the pieray isn't an actual glitch and if someone esps something that doesn't show up on pieray then its an ez ban right?
@@Skotoseme what if you ESP a chest (don't know how it works) put a shulker at the base, cover your digging and fly back using pieray and record there?
Well said bro. I'm a purity guy through and through. As far as I'm concerned, despite its flaws purity is the best vanilla anarchy server around. But your criticism is 100% on point. I hope this decision dosent kill the server or snowball in to more dumb shit.
mann wish all purity players thought like you but yeah hope they reverse their decision but im pretty sure they would never do something like that
@@Skotoseme unfortunately your probably right. I'm taking the opportunity to diversify my vanilla anarchy portfolio lmao. I joined uneasy and a few others recently.
@@dtectatl1 amazing! yeah i think that's just the way to do this stuff like. Idk why anyone should be like loyal to just 1 server lol it's not like a marriage even tho people do see it like that sometimes
I'd love to try purity, but I've waited an hour in the queue before and was still in 10th place. There's no way it's worth the wait every time you join the server.
@@redsynister4836 I pay for a full join now but early on I had no rank. The q is really not that bad you probably were on a very high traffic night or something.
And that's why purity is all about queue!! :p Dope video!!
Hell yeah dude next video: why i queue in purity vanilla
@@Skotoseme YOOOOOOOOOOO LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HYPE
I have played Minecraft on a laptop before and to open at three you need to click shift and at three because you’re on a laptop I don’t know how they would band that ?
HAHAH bro you are so right man idk why
Nice Realtalk vid!
PS: i love your subtitles xD
@@FSC_Kirtilot thanks man they took pretty long to add lmao
lame..been dodging purity forever. finally found a your reason. still love you!!
Don’t think not being able to use a method to easily destroy someone’s base is the worst thing in the world.
But I understand the frustration.
now what server should we play on now
Well uneasy vanilla, simply vanilla and eusurvival are the 3 biggest other no hack anarchy servers that do allow regular vanilla features
Great video Dad, as always. Is it true they are chaging the name of the server to poosie vanilla?
LMAO it might aswell be i love you prime
Well, technically if there's a lot of chests, their percentage on the pieray will significantly spike, so in theory you could find even chest-only stash without ESP.
Id have to test tbh i wonder if you its really that big of a difference on the pieray in %
ppl have been using pieray for a good while now and purity staff is just catching up to it now? just wait until they find out about brains eray lol
LMFAOOO id pin this comment but already pinned thesto
Soon: replay mod, litematica and world download mods are banned.
imagine😭😭😭
Man trying to become the next Tommyinnit with these subtitles
I've honestly never seen a Tommy video i didn't know he did them like that lmao
@@Skotoseme Only difference is his subtitles are ×10 the size of yours 😅
@@shykiller7 oh okay yeah no i wanted to keep it lowkey lol
Miss the days of logging onto SV and seeing your name at the top of the list
I miss sv too man
minecraft: removes pieray
skotose_me: "why I dont play minecraft"
Well you missed the part where i mention this in the video lol
@@Skotoseme I actually didnt watch the video because u didn't heart my comment
@@Skotoseme watched it :>
@@buns9642 LMAO
im Apersu and im here to officially announce pieray is gay
Make videos
@@Skotoseme purity gay
@@Apersu theres other servers out there!! The people need you
@@Skotoseme the people dont deserve me
@@Apersu 😭😭😭 true but youll be the next dream
now that pie ray is banable what does people stop from using esp? both things get treated the same way… if you wanna use pie ray why not using esp now that it has the same outcome?I understand why its banned, because it makes it easier for the staff team but I don’t think it should be the way to go. People who hack, will do it anyways even after they get banned. Prevent that from happening and stop perm banning people for stupid things like pie ray. whatever…
I kinda understand why they ban it too now but i also just don't agree with their reasoning yeah but oh well just as i thought they just ignore it
Did you actually think Purity had good staff members? TOP KEK. It is very hard indeed to moderate a large minecraft server while also dilating with your other hand.
i knew about the staff team being bad but decisions like these make me really undertand how bad it actually is
So awkward seeing subtitles within the video (at least for me). What’s up with me?
yeah idk i tried something new lol maybe i just import them into youtube next time
@@Skotoseme I see. Importing the subtitles on YT would be better imo. Also, I forgot to ask: won’t mobs show like villagers and hostile mobs show up in the pie ray along with animals? If so, how can you deal with that?
@@Anas-gz4my yeahhh villagers will show up on your pieray im pretty sure.. no real reason to deal with that one sadly. you can however make your trading hall a few thousand blocks away from your base just to be sure. as i also said tho that most people won't look on the entities pieray
Why don’t I play? I was banned during the gardenia duping moment. :megalul:
Purity’s community was also insanely toxic lol
It’s full of snowflakes bro what do you mean
@@mossy4838 I played 2 years ago. I don’t know the community now
@@joe0001 ah fair enough
Based and Based loved the vid bro sorry you left purity and we couldn’t really become bros but I feel like we would’ve been bros so good luck on your channel future bro 👊
WAIT BRO NO DONT MENTION REPLAY MOD BROOOOO lol
thanks man maybe one day you'll see me on there but no idea when
to be honest, the banning of pie ray does more good than bad. Base hunters who are actually good at doing what they do, don’t need pie ray, and most didn’t use it before it became mainstream. there are so many false bans about esp, and appeals being made with the excuse/explanation “I was using pie ray and saw a pearl”. Banning it clears up 2 things. The possibility for false bans because of someone using pie ray, and the excuse that espers can use. Purity Vanilla has bigger problems with staff and rules than something that could be fairly considered an exploit.
however the mods have never been good. they don’t do Screensharing and half the time they don’t ask for Logs, no warnings, etc. it’s just “oh it seems like you might have hacked. Banned!” and that’s not the right way to do things, but they refuse to change it
the thing is It shouldn't have been made a huge deal because as you said a lot of base hunters use other methods aswell. What I'm trying to say with this video tho is that there's no good reason to ban pieray if you just ask people to record their pov if they want to use pieray then there can't be any doubt about if they are hacking or using legitmate methods. That way people have a choice at least and it doesn't feel like purity is just trying to be lazy with ban appeals. PieRay is always a vanilla feature no matter how you look at it.
pieray does show the % of the items current tho, so if its a big stash of chests the % would be high tho ^^
I see both sides and how they both disagree with each other. I do feel like he should have made like a vote or something rather than just adding it.
There’s an anarchy mode on my favorite fishing server? I’ll need to check it out
😭😭😭
I should remind you event 2b2t banned thunders because it lets people detect bases
based content sad they did this
thanks mike
I'm thinking of chnaging servers (and nearly sure bc of this) any ideas for what to play on?
Id say uneasy vanilla if you want a more laid back and nicer community and simply if you wanna be able to also do some pvp
@@Skotoseme ok! will try
@@Skotoseme is it easy to start out?
@@Skotoseme also could u give me the discord server for uneasy?
@@EmperorStick uneasy spawn is pretty easy yeah it has great highways
Mojang should have removed it years ago.
If someone running a server is fixing problems with Minecraft that Mojang is too lazy to fix, then I consider that a good thing.
Pieray gets updated all the time. Its not a bug that has to be fixed
But what if you download the map and then use pieray on there?
Its not purity vanilla, so your allowed too do that.
and then after just visit the base in the actual server xD
Why is nuhurtcam banned
(Great video btw I'm subbed now)
@@dragonblazer_1432 hell yeahh
pie ray is litteraly Xray
purity??? whats that
never heard of it
7:23 to 8:51 best arguments imo
ty ty
pie ray is allowed on eusurvival!
hell yeah
The pie chart is cheating ?
They should ban coords
Saw one of your signs from a base you pie raided.
My base also got pie rayed, what’s his minecraft username??
Do you know what your name means in greece
Had to throw up the moment u said purity vanilla 🤢
LMAOO
I'm gonna get you a tissue, your gonna need it...
crying over a server you don't even play, LOL!
Yes im for sure crying as you can see in this video
Very epic rip purity
indeed sad
Real vanilla players do not use f3 screen... It is a debug screen... It's not should be used in gameplay... Only when you need debugging or trouble shooting.
Having real time coordinates,times, chunks info and an entity checker in survival Minecraft.... doesn't seem survival anymore.
This is what I personally think and how i played this game for more than 10 years and I think it's great pleasure...the feeling of exploring is incomparable.
i guess the owner just wants to defend the players from little immature kids who have fun and feel special to find base and destroy them to feel cooler ... with no purpose in the game and no respect or regard for certain constructions.
I respect your opinion but I couldnt disagree more
Coordinates should always be an allowed vanilla thing at the very least imo
I agree for some of this. Navigation alone from F3 removes the core uses of compasses, maps, trail markers, and a lot more (like the more in-depth functionality and skills for mapping and navigation). However I can see the point of disregarding the many regular navigation features for an anarchy server, especially because of the size of the world.
I would kind of prefer a server without coords available at all times, but there should be some way to find bases in a world so large (and most people I play with love coords enabled)
Purity bad
hell yeah get them shane
Skotose has pretty eyes
😳
let make a server and i will pay for it
Theres good servers out there already bro theres no need for that
Guessing he got banned lol
Greek?
nope
@@Skotoseme your name means kill me in greek
Anarchy with no pieray and hacks is not anarchy
Watch my video about what true anarchy is. Its all still anarchy even with regulations
Clickbait title and thumbnail. pieray should stay banned. Disliked.
Well you're the type of delusional person that i talk about in the beginning of the video lmao
Hallux u name Gooney u where my bitch in fightflub sit down
@@Skotoseme I disliked for the clickbait not the content, you said it yourself in the end that it was clickbait
@@hallux2635 its a reference. It's not clickbait because this is also a reason to not play pv
wtf is pieray
SWETUGA SHUT UP LMAO