To tinfoil, this means that the swich 2 won't fit old joycons, they will have a new railing and you'll need this to charge your switch1 joycons to connect
thats if its backwards compatible. makes sense because its a charging stand and not a charging grip it would be dumb if switch controllers are not backwards compatible
Very likely. The only way the "magnetic suction" rumours can be true is that the new controllers will be lodged in some casing (thus allowing the S2 to have a proper grip) Therefore absolutely no room for rails
they'll announce themes for switch one when switch 2 is 3 years old. switch 2 won't have themes of course because why would Nintendo ever do anything the obvious way
There's a third party one that's licensed by Nintendo. I have it, but it's kind of pointless. You can't use the joycons while they're charging, so if you specifically want to use joycons and not a pro controller, you still need a backup pair. And at that point, it's really no different from hooking them up to the Switch and charging them through the dock, except you don't need a separately sold accessory for that.
Nintendo RnD so busy building concepts for Mech Suit legs(they have actual concepts patented. It's wild) that they forgot to make a separate joycon charging grip
One of the earliest Switch 2 rumors was that it has an 8 inch screen. Assuming that's true and they want to keep the aspect ratio the same (which they most likely would), then the sides/rails have to be taller and thus unlikely to be backwards compatible with the old joycons. Wirelessly I'm sure they'll connect and work just fine but you'd need a dedicated way of charging them, thus this product is born. (theory)
The absence of an official external Joy-con charger was honestly something that I never noticed or cared about, myself. Then again, I've never had a reason to own more than two Joy-cons, so... *shrug*
It baffled me that the charging grip wasn’t the grip that came with the system. I always felt all the official grips should have charging capabilities. This stand one woulda made sense to launch alongside the NES and SNES “joycons”.
it could just be they had extra stock of some components and repurposing them into this device is a way to get rid of them now that the switch's lifespan is mostly over. Not saying this is the truth just that it's a possibility
The fact that this dock has the USB c coing awkwardly out of the top basically confirms for me that these have the exact same electronics as the joycon charge grip, just with a different plastic shell.
The lack of an official charging station was especially weird after the Switch Lite released. I bet there were at least a few people who bought joy cons for their Switch Lites only to realize they couldn't charge them
Universal Truth: If it makes too much sense, then it's NOT part of Nintendo's plans. Not-making any sense at all it's a core part of that company's philosophy.
Bought an OLED with the white joycons, immediately bought a pair with darker colors that won't show dirt as much. I mean don't get me wrong, I wash my hands frequently. But who thought a totally white, ABS plastic controller was a good idea? Looks cool though.
The only reason I have more than one functioning pair is because I bought my Oled before my (previously) regularly used paring broke. But I guess for a big family, they might have wanted this, you know, 5 years ago
I have more than one pair of joycons that are TECHNICALLY functional. I just subtly make others use the ones with drift when playing with friends. They‘re usually too drunk or don’t play Switch enough to notice.
something I feel I should mention: when all 3rd party charging grips and nintendos own charging grip came out, they were made with only the classic joy cons in mind without anticipating the nes joy con or 3rd party joycon, so the only way to charge those would be to directly connect hem to a switch console. This accessory has no grips or bottom that could prevent controllers from being charged on it meaning it should charge all switch accessories with rails, theoretically
Normally Nintendo ramps down on releasing products like this right before a new hardware generation. Would not be surprised at all if old joycons work on the Switch 2
It was either Nintendo themselves or a leaked internal document that said the old joycons will be compatible with the new Switch. (I distinctly remember reading that before I made the decision to buy an additional pair of ergonomic third party joycons and thumb grips.) With that in mind, they can release one charge stand for both consoles and not be concerned with managing support for people who do or don't upgrade to the new system. I usually play in handheld mode, so I never noticed that they never released an official one until you mentioned it, but I've always seen those stands all over Amazon by third parties.
My theory is that they just want more support. The magnetic suction thing may not be there. This is for multiple joy-cons, wouldn’t the charging grip be a better solution for that problem?
PowerA has one that’s officially licensed by Nintendo, so I guess either their agreement expired or they just wanted to change it I bought one years ago, but the spots where the 4 joycons are is made so close together that you can’t really reach the button to release them while charging all 4 at once
The cable at the top is because it's two pieces and one of the pieces acts like the powered grip. I suspect this might be forwards compatible with the Switch 2's JoyCons, that would make a lot more sense.
I wouldn't have my Nintendo news presented to me by anyone else. You are the perfect person to present that kind of information, imagine it being presented coldly by a news anchor that knows every reason for every decision
Me 3 minutes into the video: WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE!!!??? Ha, Arlo Burying the lead aside, I've been waiting for years for this product. My daughter has a TON of joy cons at this point, but only 2 are ever powered. I looked into an option like this at one point, but could only find third party options and my experience with third party has always been so abysmal that if I can't find first party, I just don't buy anything. So as for who this is for, its for me, or at least my family anyway.
The cord is on the top so you can use it while charging without the cord going back towards your body. Like the Dreamcast controller having the clip to move the cord from the bottom to the top.
I don’t think it has anything to do with Switch 2 tbh, it’s more so Nintendo being Nintendo and giving us something that should’ve been there on release far too late. Although I still wonder how Switch 2 joycons will work, they’re supposedly gonna be magnetic which makes me question how it’ll work. They would have to make them really strong for it to work but hey Nintendo always manages to make the weirdest concepts work.
I’ve never understood the idea of the power cable on the top. I have a TV stand where this would easily sit… if the cable were located in any other location.
Meanwhile the Switch, which is advertised with its own stand to set it up like a little tv even in handheld mode, has only the one on the bottom instead of a secondary one at the top or in the back to maybe allow you to, you know, charge it while using the said stand. xD
@@Buphido I forget if this was standard for the one included with the console, but the stand I have (official Nintendo) plugs into the bottom of the Switch and has a side-facing USB port for charging
@@kryzethx Do you mean the switch dock to connect to the tv? Because that one's fine (though even it has some questionable design decisions). What I mean is the little plastic stand thingie at the back of the Switch itself which can be clicked out to (poorly) make the Switch stand upright in handheld mode in case you want to play with friends on the go.
Nah, i just assume there was probably some unexpected FCC holdbacks on the device itself, despite being a fancy stand. yet promoting NES World Championship edition. but since October was already kind of close, they pushed the game to July, which pushed Emio to August, leaving Mario Party Jamboree for October. they'd probably go safe with Mario for christmas games than risk having their intended-japanese audience for Famicom Detective Club during a time when Dragon Quest 3 is releasing weeks later.
The day one product was a chargeable grip instead of a stand. It worked as a method of charging as well as a second grip for playing. The issue came with the NES joy cons that don't fit in the grip. Edit: Arlo mentions this in the video.
Back when I got my Switch, they were in linited supply, and stores were forcing you to buy them bundled with other goods... so mine came with a copy of Arms, a code for Has Been Heroes (random), a Zelda-themed screen proctector and decal set... and a Joycon charging stand. So. I've had one of these for seven years. Absolutely wild that Nintendo is JUST NOW making their own. Has there really not been a first-party solution for charging more than two Joycons at a time before now??
PlayStation released a back button attachment for DualShock4s in the twilight of the PS4. Speculation pointed to the DualShock5s having back buttons built in. Then the Dual sense was revealed.
If it’s releasing in October maybe that’s a hint that the announcement for the new system will be announced around October that would better explain why this product is necessary
Woody had an interesting theory on the podcast: Switch 2 joycons will have a totally different attachment system, so old joycons will be usable via bluetooth but will not be able to charge in the console, so they are in advance giving people a product that can charge those old ones so when the system release people will gave easier (official) access to it.
3:10 There is 1 offcial charging grip for only 1 pair of Joy-Cons with USB-c by Nintendo. But it costs $30. Other companies give you a charging station for 2 pairs for half the price.
So I have thoughts on why this would be released now outside of the reasonable assumption of a system rail change, as well as the design changes for this as a product: - Mechanically, this is identical to the near launch comfort grip (the charging controller grip), including position of the USB C port. - Unlike the launch grip, the lack of grips is there to allow for support of the NES controllers - The two charging docks released at launch were from Power A, and while the 4-port version is still sold (though lacks clearance for NES controllers), the Pro Controller + 2 Joycon version was discontinued a few years ago, with a spiritual remake that also lacks NES controller support. - Releasing alongside NES World Championship, as well as the above comments, gives a good reason for releasing now. - Lastly, the reason why the USB being on the top; you can still use the grip as a controller with the Joycon configuration, and still be able to charge up. Hopefully this is understood, from a non-tech engineer perspective.
There are multiple theories I got, and some of them might be mutually exclusive. But the main ones: 1 - Switch 2 will take longer than anticipated to come out (e.g. early 2026) and Nintendo is already aware of that and uses this as a way to stall 2 - Switch 2 is pulling a WiiU with the controls where the two generations use the same controllers (WiiMote and JoyCon for WiiU and Switch 2) but maybe without the WiiU Pad equivalent 3 - Someone really just forgot that this is something they should have released years ago (Switch Lite may or may not have been one reason for that given it doesn't use external JoyCons by default) 4 - Someone realized 'we don't have that' and as some companies have the 'just do SOMETHING'-mentality, that guy just decided 'something' is creating this just so he can say he did something
The cable out the top is because they're using the same board as the charge grip, so they didn't have to make new models or anything except the stand and the back plate, that's also why it stands proud so they could reuse the face plate
I remember the charge station for everything from the console to the joycons and you could even put your cartridges there to have them neatly organized. That is weird that this peripheral is being announced when barely we are closer to the announcement of the new console, instead of seeing it the first day of the Switch? Yeah, makes me think that either Nintendo's partnership with third parties expired or they simply want to provide the stuff without depending of these third parties ever again. Maybe the Switch 2 will have joycons but different, a new design and better tech inside that will not allow for more DRIFTING. (THE DRIFTING) We can only speculate anyway.
The fact they never released an official charge stand for the Switch early on, and that they announced the Switch's successor is on its way, makes me think it's gonna be compatible with the Switch 2. It'd be extremely weird if this is purely for Switch 1 with it being so extremely late.
I’d love a Switch 2 skew that was just the handheld itself. No frills. But fits into the dock and allows for your spare joycons to be attached to it. A real plug and go machine. Great Stuff, as always!
Hi! You probably won’t see this comment but it might be because Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition released with NES controller joycons, shown charging in the photos, which can’t be used in handheld, so I guess they thought charging them would be inconvenient.
i have a third party joycon charging stand that just completely ruined the batteries on my old joycons 😩 so thank god for this, yeah i didnt realise its 100% bc the switch 2 wont support charging joycons, and some people may want to get rid of their switch
I've used my 3rd Party charging station (that includes charging for the pro controller) since I got my switch in 2018. This can only mean to me, that the new switch is not going to use the same joy cons. What a weird addition to this already strange timeline.
I remember when the switch first came out and people were remove the handles from the Joycon grip and it was basically this. So yeah it's just the Joycon charging grip without the handles.
The weird placement of the USB cable on the top might be because they just reused the charging grip. It even has the charging LED in the same place. When the charging module is removed from the stand, it looks exactly like it, minus the grips in the back. (Which is so weird, since these are apparently a similar price, but I assume you can‘t play games with this one...)
Many say that the Next Switch will have magnetic Joy-Con, and the current Joy-Con will be incompatible without an adapter outside of Bluetooth. Not to mention many charging solutions don't accommodate for the NES Joy-Con. As for the timing; the Next Switch likely won't release until about a year after this accessory releases. I expect the Next Switch to be unveiled at CES in January 2025, and the release to be in October 2025.
Sounds to me that they were going to release on day one, but maybe something stopped production, not able to get enough stock etc. They then forgot about it until now when they realised that the joy-cons will most likely not work on hand-held for switch 2, as it might not fit correctly if switch 2 is bigger. So they thought, well perfect time to release this product so people can use the "old" joycons on the new switch.
My running theory is that the next console WILL support Switch Joy-Cons, but won’t have a method to charge them on the system itself. That’s the only reason I think Nintendo would release something like the charging stand this late into the Switch’s lifecycle, to give to-be next console owners a way to charge their Joy-Cons assuming they sell their old Switch.
If the cord comes out from the top, maybe they wanted you to play while charging the Joycons too! It has this really interesting 2DS like format to it...
I remember being confused about this in 2017. I plugged in my switch into the dock, hooked the joycons up to that weird controller thing, played Breath of the Wild for a while, and then it tells me that my Joycons are low in battery. And I'm like yeah okay how do I charge them? And I decided I had to stop playing on my TV and try handheld, so that I could plug in my switch to plug in my joycons to my switch. And that was basically the last time I put my switch in the dock. That little inconvenience, that you can't charge the Joycons while you're playing a video game, made it so I never tried again.
I think it will mean that the new Switch 2 can wirelessly connect to the old joycons, but that the console itself wont have the same rails or something meaning you need a separate charger as opposed to just... keeping your old Switch around to use as an over glorified controller charger.
I'm probably one of the very few people who've been annoyed by not having a first party option for this product. But you're right... 7 years in I've already got a third party one that works just fine, *without* a cord coming out the top. I mean I get it, it's also a solution to mid-docked-gaming joycon charging. But I'm sure there could've been a secondary charging port on the charger dock itself, so you can ditch the top cord on the shelf. That would've made it at least a "neat" upgrade from the 3rd party options.
i could def see it being something made primarily with switch 2 in mind, what with the stuff you say about forwards compatibility and the whole magnetic joycon rumor. maybe it's strategically a bit of an odd move but i figure for an accessory like this, it's almost like, might as well just release it right now. it would only sell to people who had the original switch anyway, and i figure it's not like it would've gotten a major spotlight at switch 2's launch anyway, so it may as well be released now to an audience of 140+ million switch owners and then given a short highlight to remind people of its benefits for the switch 2, rather than being aimed solely at a much smaller launch install base for switch 2, especially when some of those buyers (can't imagine a *lot* mind you, but certainly some) won't have had the original switch or joycons from it.
This makes it LESS likely that Switch 2 will use the same rail system IMHO. Currently your joy-con are charged when on the Switch unit itself. The next Switch is rumored to be compatible with current-gen joy-con, but maybe they work but don't physically connect, and this is intended to allow you to keep your controllers charged without keeping your old Switch plugged in
I feel like this is actually a situation of the new nintendo console will use old joycons, but won't mainly use old joycons. It might be a situation of having new joycons for the consoles, but making it available to use old joycons on the new console, because I thought the joycon chargers were unnecessary I mean... How often do people play a game for more than 20 hours, even at that if your battery does run out that is a sign to take a break and let them charge on the dock, and if you really can't wait 3 hours... you can play the switch in portable mode while the joycons charge. It was really unnecessary to have a joycon charging stand. However now it might be necessary with the new nintendo console.
Such a weird thing for Nintendo to release. Hori have had a 4-controller dock out since the console released, and it's been the same price throughout (£27).
The USB cable comes out the top because it's literally just the center piece of the charging grip. This was most likely a "Hey, we already make this charging grip. I could just take the center bit and bolt it to a stand and BOOM, a charging stand for the joycons!"
Switch 2 won’t support joycons sliding onto it at all. Switch 2’s controller will be one piece with a screen on it. The part that docks to the TV will also have a screen on it, and the two parts will combine to form a dual screen portable, split apart to form a highly advanced successor to both Wii U and Switch. Nintendo filed a patent for exactly this. So, Joycons will still be supported as wireless peripherals but they won’t slide on.
This is the same company that was like “oh, btw you have bluetooth. You know that thing where you can have headphones attached without a cord? Yeah that. It’s in your switch. We updated like 3 days ago, I’m surprised you didn’t notice.”
i was just talking with my partner the other day when we found her 3DS about how accessories used to be Nintendo's bread and butter, and how thats whats been missing from the switch experience
I've heard that the Switch 2 joycons are supposed to have a different attachment system, so the idea here was perhaps to allow people to continue using their old joycons. All speculation, of course.
Ok this is crazy but hear me out; is it possible that those third parties patented the JoyCon charger, and Nintendo is only now legally getting the right to make their own? That doesn't seem possible but... is it?
i actually have a sound theory... the nes controllers make the switch oled non-sociable with its included dock. with the nes championship game out now there is going to be an increased interest in the official nes controllers
Exact opposite. The rumours for a long time has been that the Switch 2 will have different. incompatible joycon rails. If you cannot connect your old joycons to the Switch 2, you can't charge them. But you could still use them for wireless, even if not connected. So the solution is you need a joycon charger other than the console.
Possibly the switch 2 will NOT have physically compatible joycons? But if they can still be used as a controller, you'll need a way to charge them. Ideally that way wouldn't be a spare switch 1.
Yeah, would not at all surprise me if they literally just forgor until now, though it wouldn't shock me if the joy cons aren't fully backwards compatible, so you have to use the thing to charge them while keeping them connected to the switch 2
I bought a Joycon charging stand at the same time I bought my switch in like May of 2024. It was on sale! It was officially licensed! It has stayed in its box for over 7 years because I never bought more Joycon!
I actually always wanted this. I never got a charging grip, but I wanted one that didn't add the wings. Just for portability and so I can slide my joycon , connected as a controller, under a shelf on my desk etc.... I don't care about the stand part. I'd use this while playing. $30 is lame though I dunno if I'll bother. I'm not going to buy the next Nintendo console so I'm sorta on my way out this year. I do plan on buying some Nintendo games that are coming out though, along with Metroid Prime 4.
To tinfoil, this means that the swich 2 won't fit old joycons, they will have a new railing and you'll need this to charge your switch1 joycons to connect
This is probably the case.
Exactly what I thought!
thats if its backwards compatible. makes sense because its a charging stand and not a charging grip it would be dumb if switch controllers are not backwards compatible
Very likely. The only way the "magnetic suction" rumours can be true is that the new controllers will be lodged in some casing (thus allowing the S2 to have a proper grip)
Therefore absolutely no room for rails
This is also the current state of switch 2 rumors. Old Joycons will be compatible, but only via wireless.
I'm sure that by christmas, they'll announce themes for the Switch user interface.
it would be hilarious to finally get themes in a random update only to go back to just light & dark with the Switch 2
they'll announce themes for switch one when switch 2 is 3 years old. switch 2 won't have themes of course because why would Nintendo ever do anything the obvious way
@@ribbrana Nintendo pulls another Game Boy Light to Game Boy Color
@@rayshiotile9487 lmao
They will have one that's Mario red and that's it.
HOW IS THE GOOMBA HOLDING THE BATON
Sheer willpower
Veggietales rules
Determination? Magnetism? Psychokinesis? ...He's really sticky?
Same way he plays baseball. Why do you ask?
with he hands
I never even realized that the Switch never had a separate Joycon charging stand
Not an official one I don't think. I've had an unofficial one that charges 4 at once for some years now.
If you only have a pair of joycons then it's really unnecessary. Most people just buy a pro controller after and those can charge from any usb.
I thought nintendo released one shaped like a plus sign that held 4 joycons
PowerA made one officially licensed by Nintendo years ago that’s still available
There's a third party one that's licensed by Nintendo. I have it, but it's kind of pointless. You can't use the joycons while they're charging, so if you specifically want to use joycons and not a pro controller, you still need a backup pair.
And at that point, it's really no different from hooking them up to the Switch and charging them through the dock, except you don't need a separately sold accessory for that.
In other News - Nintendo Engineer wakes up from 7 year Coma.
Nintendo RnD so busy building concepts for Mech Suit legs(they have actual concepts patented. It's wild) that they forgot to make a separate joycon charging grip
One of the earliest Switch 2 rumors was that it has an 8 inch screen. Assuming that's true and they want to keep the aspect ratio the same (which they most likely would), then the sides/rails have to be taller and thus unlikely to be backwards compatible with the old joycons.
Wirelessly I'm sure they'll connect and work just fine but you'd need a dedicated way of charging them, thus this product is born.
(theory)
This.
sounds about right
The absence of an official external Joy-con charger was honestly something that I never noticed or cared about, myself. Then again, I've never had a reason to own more than two Joy-cons, so... *shrug*
They released the charging grip at launch.
I'll admit I'm similar
I've pretty much exclusively played in handheld since day 1 so the Joycons batteries never really meant a thing to me
there was definitely one of those... i had one
It baffled me that the charging grip wasn’t the grip that came with the system. I always felt all the official grips should have charging capabilities. This stand one woulda made sense to launch alongside the NES and SNES “joycons”.
"Then again, I've never had a reason to own more than two Joy-cons, so... shrug"
Oof, that's basically indirectly saying "I have no friends".
it could just be they had extra stock of some components and repurposing them into this device is a way to get rid of them now that the switch's lifespan is mostly over. Not saying this is the truth just that it's a possibility
The fact that this dock has the USB c coing awkwardly out of the top basically confirms for me that these have the exact same electronics as the joycon charge grip, just with a different plastic shell.
With the terrible design of the cord, I’d say you are absolutely onto something!
Great theory. Arlo in the mud. Sorry Arlo
Yep, cable position sells a little more of a "we had to use this because we had a lot of it, not because we wanted to"
"Joy-Con Drift" lawsuit was dismissed May 14, 2024. Could be linked to that in some way.
This honestly does hold some weight.
WHYYYYYYYYY
Maybe it could be the case
well...that or it's just a planned distraction so we don't bring it up near release you'll never know really. 🤷
@@erc3338You can't lose if you're rich.
This is giving when Sony announced that Back Button Attachment for the PS4 controllers right before the announcement for PS5. Such odd timing.
The lack of an official charging station was especially weird after the Switch Lite released. I bet there were at least a few people who bought joy cons for their Switch Lites only to realize they couldn't charge them
1:24 I mean some of the 2017 Galaxy phones literally exploded in people's pockets if memory serves.
It was the Galaxy Note 7 (and the Note 9 too to some extent)
iphones been exploding since 2009 and there have instances of them exploding to this day.
@@carlitos366 not as much as the Note 7 did
@Edoorardo I'm sure it did, but my point is that many phones have had this problem.
@@carlitos366the TSA didn’t ban iPhones from flights lol
Universal Truth: If it makes too much sense, then it's NOT part of Nintendo's plans.
Not-making any sense at all it's a core part of that company's philosophy.
Ooh heard one guy mention this may be in connection to the joycon case that was dismiss this year😯
but that's just speculation of course.
Wait, you guys have more than one pair of functioning joycons?
Bought an OLED with the white joycons, immediately bought a pair with darker colors that won't show dirt as much.
I mean don't get me wrong, I wash my hands frequently. But who thought a totally white, ABS plastic controller was a good idea? Looks cool though.
The only reason I have more than one functioning pair is because I bought my Oled before my (previously) regularly used paring broke. But I guess for a big family, they might have wanted this, you know, 5 years ago
I have more than one pair of joycons that are TECHNICALLY functional. I just subtly make others use the ones with drift when playing with friends. They‘re usually too drunk or don’t play Switch enough to notice.
I have just one pair of joycons and they're not functional
I have 1 pair that sorta functions and 5 pairs that don't, but I don't have the heart to get rid of them.
something I feel I should mention: when all 3rd party charging grips and nintendos own charging grip came out, they were made with only the classic joy cons in mind without anticipating the nes joy con or 3rd party joycon, so the only way to charge those would be to directly connect hem to a switch console. This accessory has no grips or bottom that could prevent controllers from being charged on it meaning it should charge all switch accessories with rails, theoretically
Arlo needs to be on Smiling Friends
Gwimbly for Smash. "Hoo hoo hoo!"
Arlo and Pim would get along very well because of their wholesome vibes lol
I love pikmin charlie, i love pikmin!!!
@@AGoodUA-camUsername “pim I really don’t think you should shout that in front of that Bulblax”
Nah, he needs to be on Don't Hug Me I'm Scared.
Still find it funny we got an official one after 7 years. I LITERALLY just bought a third party one.
Then get rid of it and get that one instead now
@@TheSpeedfoever To own Nintendo's officially licensed, overpriced plastic? Nah I'm good
@@DanominatorHey man, drifting problems get fixed for free
don't worry it's probably better anyway
@@wildbard4112 Because they almost got sued for them! 😂
Normally Nintendo ramps down on releasing products like this right before a new hardware generation. Would not be surprised at all if old joycons work on the Switch 2
What i don't understand is why the charging grip (which was out from day 1 i think) did not have a stand feature like the Switch itself has.
I've had a charging stand for years and sort of just assumed it was official lmao 😅
Same! I got mine from a friend and just assumed it was official
It was either Nintendo themselves or a leaked internal document that said the old joycons will be compatible with the new Switch. (I distinctly remember reading that before I made the decision to buy an additional pair of ergonomic third party joycons and thumb grips.)
With that in mind, they can release one charge stand for both consoles and not be concerned with managing support for people who do or don't upgrade to the new system. I usually play in handheld mode, so I never noticed that they never released an official one until you mentioned it, but I've always seen those stands all over Amazon by third parties.
Switch 2 will be compatible with Joy-Cons but unable to charge them. That's all
this would make sense actually
My theory is that they just want more support. The magnetic suction thing may not be there. This is for multiple joy-cons, wouldn’t the charging grip be a better solution for that problem?
The switch is a joycon charging stand...
It don't count
Whaaaaat? Really?!?
Well yes but this is more for people that like to have multiple pairs of joycons... We all know this is probably just for switch 2 compatibility.
i have the feeling they had an excess of joycon grips so they made it to a charging stand
It says its a "two-way" thing, so probably a way to use the joy cons as wired controllers while docked, if i had to guess.
This is technically already kind of a thing with the middle part for Hori split pad pros
It does look to be about the same size as the joycon grip that comes with the Switch itself
@@ListlessWither true but this would be the first first party product.
PowerA has one that’s officially licensed by Nintendo, so I guess either their agreement expired or they just wanted to change it
I bought one years ago, but the spots where the 4 joycons are is made so close together that you can’t really reach the button to release them while charging all 4 at once
The cable at the top is because it's two pieces and one of the pieces acts like the powered grip. I suspect this might be forwards compatible with the Switch 2's JoyCons, that would make a lot more sense.
They were selling the controller grips that had charging ability, so it might have been redundant.
Its launching next to Super Mario Party Jamboree so hey thats gonna be great at least! It might sell out quickly too!
It seems like you could potentially attach a grip to the part it attaches to the stand.
I wouldn't have my Nintendo news presented to me by anyone else. You are the perfect person to present that kind of information, imagine it being presented coldly by a news anchor that knows every reason for every decision
Me 3 minutes into the video: WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE!!!???
Ha, Arlo Burying the lead aside, I've been waiting for years for this product. My daughter has a TON of joy cons at this point, but only 2 are ever powered. I looked into an option like this at one point, but could only find third party options and my experience with third party has always been so abysmal that if I can't find first party, I just don't buy anything. So as for who this is for, its for me, or at least my family anyway.
I feel like they didn't make this until now because the Charging Grip exists
The cord is on the top so you can use it while charging without the cord going back towards your body. Like the Dreamcast controller having the clip to move the cord from the bottom to the top.
There's already a charging grip. The cord on the top is probably because the internals are identical the charging grip to save money.
I don’t think it has anything to do with Switch 2 tbh, it’s more so Nintendo being Nintendo and giving us something that should’ve been there on release far too late. Although I still wonder how Switch 2 joycons will work, they’re supposedly gonna be magnetic which makes me question how it’ll work. They would have to make them really strong for it to work but hey Nintendo always manages to make the weirdest concepts work.
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I’ve never understood the idea of the power cable on the top. I have a TV stand where this would easily sit… if the cable were located in any other location.
Meanwhile the Switch, which is advertised with its own stand to set it up like a little tv even in handheld mode, has only the one on the bottom instead of a secondary one at the top or in the back to maybe allow you to, you know, charge it while using the said stand. xD
Meanwhile the 3rd party stands got this right back in 2017 with the cable connecting to the base.
@@Buphido I forget if this was standard for the one included with the console, but the stand I have (official Nintendo) plugs into the bottom of the Switch and has a side-facing USB port for charging
It's so you can charge and use them at the same time
@@kryzethx Do you mean the switch dock to connect to the tv? Because that one's fine (though even it has some questionable design decisions). What I mean is the little plastic stand thingie at the back of the Switch itself which can be clicked out to (poorly) make the Switch stand upright in handheld mode in case you want to play with friends on the go.
Nah, i just assume there was probably some unexpected FCC holdbacks on the device itself, despite being a fancy stand. yet promoting NES World Championship edition. but since October was already kind of close, they pushed the game to July, which pushed Emio to August, leaving Mario Party Jamboree for October. they'd probably go safe with Mario for christmas games than risk having their intended-japanese audience for Famicom Detective Club during a time when Dragon Quest 3 is releasing weeks later.
This could also be bundled with a docked-only "Switch TV" for cheap.
Been had a similar third party product that charges four instead of two since 2019. Is this year of slowpoke again?
The day one product was a chargeable grip instead of a stand. It worked as a method of charging as well as a second grip for playing. The issue came with the NES joy cons that don't fit in the grip. Edit: Arlo mentions this in the video.
Back when I got my Switch, they were in linited supply, and stores were forcing you to buy them bundled with other goods... so mine came with a copy of Arms, a code for Has Been Heroes (random), a Zelda-themed screen proctector and decal set... and a Joycon charging stand. So. I've had one of these for seven years. Absolutely wild that Nintendo is JUST NOW making their own. Has there really not been a first-party solution for charging more than two Joycons at a time before now??
Maybe the license for the 3rd party product version ran out?
PlayStation released a back button attachment for DualShock4s in the twilight of the PS4. Speculation pointed to the DualShock5s having back buttons built in. Then the Dual sense was revealed.
I think the switch 1 joycons will only be forward compatible wirelessly. (assuming that it is connected to the switch 2 in anyway)
If it’s releasing in October maybe that’s a hint that the announcement for the new system will be announced around October that would better explain why this product is necessary
Woody had an interesting theory on the podcast: Switch 2 joycons will have a totally different attachment system, so old joycons will be usable via bluetooth but will not be able to charge in the console, so they are in advance giving people a product that can charge those old ones so when the system release people will gave easier (official) access to it.
3:10 There is 1 offcial charging grip for only 1 pair of Joy-Cons with USB-c by Nintendo. But it costs $30. Other companies give you a charging station for 2 pairs for half the price.
So I have thoughts on why this would be released now outside of the reasonable assumption of a system rail change, as well as the design changes for this as a product:
- Mechanically, this is identical to the near launch comfort grip (the charging controller grip), including position of the USB C port.
- Unlike the launch grip, the lack of grips is there to allow for support of the NES controllers
- The two charging docks released at launch were from Power A, and while the 4-port version is still sold (though lacks clearance for NES controllers), the Pro Controller + 2 Joycon version was discontinued a few years ago, with a spiritual remake that also lacks NES controller support.
- Releasing alongside NES World Championship, as well as the above comments, gives a good reason for releasing now.
- Lastly, the reason why the USB being on the top; you can still use the grip as a controller with the Joycon configuration, and still be able to charge up.
Hopefully this is understood, from a non-tech engineer perspective.
There are multiple theories I got, and some of them might be mutually exclusive. But the main ones:
1 - Switch 2 will take longer than anticipated to come out (e.g. early 2026) and Nintendo is already aware of that and uses this as a way to stall
2 - Switch 2 is pulling a WiiU with the controls where the two generations use the same controllers (WiiMote and JoyCon for WiiU and Switch 2) but maybe without the WiiU Pad equivalent
3 - Someone really just forgot that this is something they should have released years ago (Switch Lite may or may not have been one reason for that given it doesn't use external JoyCons by default)
4 - Someone realized 'we don't have that' and as some companies have the 'just do SOMETHING'-mentality, that guy just decided 'something' is creating this just so he can say he did something
The cable out the top is because they're using the same board as the charge grip, so they didn't have to make new models or anything except the stand and the back plate, that's also why it stands proud so they could reuse the face plate
I remember the charge station for everything from the console to the joycons and you could even put your cartridges there to have them neatly organized.
That is weird that this peripheral is being announced when barely we are closer to the announcement of the new console, instead of seeing it the first day of the Switch? Yeah, makes me think that either Nintendo's partnership with third parties expired or they simply want to provide the stuff without depending of these third parties ever again. Maybe the Switch 2 will have joycons but different, a new design and better tech inside that will not allow for more DRIFTING. (THE DRIFTING)
We can only speculate anyway.
"Nintendo is weird."
....Yup.
This is why Nintendo should’ve hired Stanley.
Can only imagine no one will know what you're talking about care to elaborate?😐
we've had the Snakebyte Four:Charge basically since day 1, it still does its job perfectly fine lol
The fact they never released an official charge stand for the Switch early on, and that they announced the Switch's successor is on its way, makes me think it's gonna be compatible with the Switch 2.
It'd be extremely weird if this is purely for Switch 1 with it being so extremely late.
I’d love a Switch 2 skew that was just the handheld itself. No frills. But fits into the dock and allows for your spare joycons to be attached to it. A real plug and go machine.
Great Stuff, as always!
Hi! You probably won’t see this comment but it might be because Nintendo World Championships: NES Edition released with NES controller joycons, shown charging in the photos, which can’t be used in handheld, so I guess they thought charging them would be inconvenient.
i have a third party joycon charging stand that just completely ruined the batteries on my old joycons 😩 so thank god for this, yeah i didnt realise its 100% bc the switch 2 wont support charging joycons, and some people may want to get rid of their switch
I've used my 3rd Party charging station (that includes charging for the pro controller) since I got my switch in 2018. This can only mean to me, that the new switch is not going to use the same joy cons. What a weird addition to this already strange timeline.
I remember when the switch first came out and people were remove the handles from the Joycon grip and it was basically this. So yeah it's just the Joycon charging grip without the handles.
The weird placement of the USB cable on the top might be because they just reused the charging grip. It even has the charging LED in the same place. When the charging module is removed from the stand, it looks exactly like it, minus the grips in the back.
(Which is so weird, since these are apparently a similar price, but I assume you can‘t play games with this one...)
You’re supposed to use this while playing in docked mode, that’s why the cord comes off the top. There’s two pieces to it, the stand and the charger.
Many say that the Next Switch will have magnetic Joy-Con, and the current Joy-Con will be incompatible without an adapter outside of Bluetooth. Not to mention many charging solutions don't accommodate for the NES Joy-Con. As for the timing; the Next Switch likely won't release until about a year after this accessory releases. I expect the Next Switch to be unveiled at CES in January 2025, and the release to be in October 2025.
Sounds to me that they were going to release on day one, but maybe something stopped production, not able to get enough stock etc. They then forgot about it until now when they realised that the joy-cons will most likely not work on hand-held for switch 2, as it might not fit correctly if switch 2 is bigger. So they thought, well perfect time to release this product so people can use the "old" joycons on the new switch.
My running theory is that the next console WILL support Switch Joy-Cons, but won’t have a method to charge them on the system itself. That’s the only reason I think Nintendo would release something like the charging stand this late into the Switch’s lifecycle, to give to-be next console owners a way to charge their Joy-Cons assuming they sell their old Switch.
If the cord comes out from the top, maybe they wanted you to play while charging the Joycons too! It has this really interesting 2DS like format to it...
Damn, they even had the tweet ready with an October 2017 release in mind, but forgot to change the date!
it's just a creative way to tell the lie they've always told. "The switch 2 isn't a replacement for the switch"
I remember being confused about this in 2017. I plugged in my switch into the dock, hooked the joycons up to that weird controller thing, played Breath of the Wild for a while, and then it tells me that my Joycons are low in battery. And I'm like yeah okay how do I charge them? And I decided I had to stop playing on my TV and try handheld, so that I could plug in my switch to plug in my joycons to my switch. And that was basically the last time I put my switch in the dock. That little inconvenience, that you can't charge the Joycons while you're playing a video game, made it so I never tried again.
It baffles me to this day that adapter doesn’t have a plug!
I think it will mean that the new Switch 2 can wirelessly connect to the old joycons, but that the console itself wont have the same rails or something meaning you need a separate charger as opposed to just... keeping your old Switch around to use as an over glorified controller charger.
I'm probably one of the very few people who've been annoyed by not having a first party option for this product. But you're right... 7 years in I've already got a third party one that works just fine, *without* a cord coming out the top. I mean I get it, it's also a solution to mid-docked-gaming joycon charging. But I'm sure there could've been a secondary charging port on the charger dock itself, so you can ditch the top cord on the shelf. That would've made it at least a "neat" upgrade from the 3rd party options.
Arlo, I absolutely adore the little bits you do imagining Nintendo as an absurdist comedy
"I push this button...
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I SAID I push this button...
DAMMIT! This STUPID button"
i could def see it being something made primarily with switch 2 in mind, what with the stuff you say about forwards compatibility and the whole magnetic joycon rumor. maybe it's strategically a bit of an odd move but i figure for an accessory like this, it's almost like, might as well just release it right now. it would only sell to people who had the original switch anyway, and i figure it's not like it would've gotten a major spotlight at switch 2's launch anyway, so it may as well be released now to an audience of 140+ million switch owners and then given a short highlight to remind people of its benefits for the switch 2, rather than being aimed solely at a much smaller launch install base for switch 2, especially when some of those buyers (can't imagine a *lot* mind you, but certainly some) won't have had the original switch or joycons from it.
How does the Goomba hold the baton if it has no hands?
This makes it LESS likely that Switch 2 will use the same rail system IMHO. Currently your joy-con are charged when on the Switch unit itself. The next Switch is rumored to be compatible with current-gen joy-con, but maybe they work but don't physically connect, and this is intended to allow you to keep your controllers charged without keeping your old Switch plugged in
I like Arlo's version of the events--that button was probably big and red too.
I feel like this is actually a situation of the new nintendo console will use old joycons, but won't mainly use old joycons. It might be a situation of having new joycons for the consoles, but making it available to use old joycons on the new console, because I thought the joycon chargers were unnecessary I mean... How often do people play a game for more than 20 hours, even at that if your battery does run out that is a sign to take a break and let them charge on the dock, and if you really can't wait 3 hours... you can play the switch in portable mode while the joycons charge. It was really unnecessary to have a joycon charging stand. However now it might be necessary with the new nintendo console.
Such a weird thing for Nintendo to release.
Hori have had a 4-controller dock out since the console released, and it's been the same price throughout (£27).
The “button” 🤣🤣🤣
The USB cable comes out the top because it's literally just the center piece of the charging grip.
This was most likely a "Hey, we already make this charging grip. I could just take the center bit and bolt it to a stand and BOOM, a charging stand for the joycons!"
Switch 2 won’t support joycons sliding onto it at all. Switch 2’s controller will be one piece with a screen on it. The part that docks to the TV will also have a screen on it, and the two parts will combine to form a dual screen portable, split apart to form a highly advanced successor to both Wii U and Switch. Nintendo filed a patent for exactly this. So, Joycons will still be supported as wireless peripherals but they won’t slide on.
Huh interesting I don’t think I ever realized there wasn’t an official one
But they charge on the system… and they sell charging grips…
On the topic of Lockstin, when’s that collab coming? You’re like neighbors now right?
This is the same company that was like “oh, btw you have bluetooth. You know that thing where you can have headphones attached without a cord? Yeah that. It’s in your switch. We updated like 3 days ago, I’m surprised you didn’t notice.”
i was just talking with my partner the other day when we found her 3DS about how accessories used to be Nintendo's bread and butter, and how thats whats been missing from the switch experience
I've heard that the Switch 2 joycons are supposed to have a different attachment system, so the idea here was perhaps to allow people to continue using their old joycons. All speculation, of course.
I like cord on the top because you can play while it charges
Ok this is crazy but hear me out; is it possible that those third parties patented the JoyCon charger, and Nintendo is only now legally getting the right to make their own? That doesn't seem possible but... is it?
Man that was 2 and a half minutes of the finest Yappenese ever spoken in that intro
i actually have a sound theory...
the nes controllers make the switch oled non-sociable with its included dock.
with the nes championship game out now there is going to be an increased interest in the official nes controllers
Exact opposite.
The rumours for a long time has been that the Switch 2 will have different. incompatible joycon rails.
If you cannot connect your old joycons to the Switch 2, you can't charge them.
But you could still use them for wireless, even if not connected.
So the solution is you need a joycon charger other than the console.
it always bothered me that i didnt have an extra charging stand for my extra joycons
Possibly the switch 2 will NOT have physically compatible joycons?
But if they can still be used as a controller, you'll need a way to charge them. Ideally that way wouldn't be a spare switch 1.
Arlo said "Get it twisted!"
Yeah, would not at all surprise me if they literally just forgor until now, though it wouldn't shock me if the joy cons aren't fully backwards compatible, so you have to use the thing to charge them while keeping them connected to the switch 2
It looks really silly how it plugs in on the top and not the bottom of the stand on the side
I bought a Joycon charging stand at the same time I bought my switch in like May of 2024. It was on sale! It was officially licensed! It has stayed in its box for over 7 years because I never bought more Joycon!
I actually always wanted this. I never got a charging grip, but I wanted one that didn't add the wings. Just for portability and so I can slide my joycon , connected as a controller, under a shelf on my desk etc.... I don't care about the stand part. I'd use this while playing.
$30 is lame though I dunno if I'll bother. I'm not going to buy the next Nintendo console so I'm sorta on my way out this year. I do plan on buying some Nintendo games that are coming out though, along with Metroid Prime 4.