i was one of the defenders of angelic 2 the core btw.......lets look at it like this : One time hollywood darling and child star one coreginald feldman finding himself ostracized and disavowed by the industry which once adored him pores his every resource financially , emotionally and energetically into the only document of musicianship which could possibly expose and exorcise the insidious festering underbelly of the corrupt soul less machine that is corporate film making . by way of incredible perseverance , ingenuity and style coreginald single handedly midwifes a stellar slab of perfect folk art to embarrass and decimate all opposition to the rising of this prodigys emergence from the ashes of ignomimity with the assistance of his sexy looking angels and the 90's top 40 radioesque eminently catchy tunes which he propels onto the tape like so many michael jackson hip thrusts ( which he has also perfected . is there anything the man cant do ?) . in closing this album is clearly a magnum opus for this artist and one of the most profound concept albums of all time . for shame , all of you culture vulgarians who have neither the taste nor refinement to appreciate this masterpiece for what it is , for the rest of you who have dismissed it out of hand without actually listening to it i suggest you drop everything and turn on this life changing work of art lickety splickety . FIN
The Limp Bizkit album is so so much harder to listen to than the Nickelback. "At least the Nickelback's catchy," exactly this. Results May Vary is aggressively unlistenable.
@@wendelladams8060 Nice try. There is only one song played in Hell on repeat for all eternity. And that song is "Cherry Pie" by Warrant. You should be so lucky to get one band's entire catalog, no matter how shitty.
I received a record token for Xmas (didn’t know they were still a thing) I decided to hang on to it until lockdown lifted here in the UK and visit a record store (how I’ve missed that simple pleasure) I had a few albums in mind for my purchase, but as it was, with respect, a freebie, I have decided, that purchase is going to be the winner of the “March Badness” contest. I have listened to all four semi finalists and can honestly say, anyone will take pride of place as the worst album I own (although I do have “Victim of Love “ by Elton John on vinyl, so it’s going to be a close call 🤪
Once again, a stellar performance. I'm a 55 year old music school grad who hasn't heard a single Nickelback song but am aware of their poor reputation. I'm in tear's laughing at your commentary. How about an XTC ranking?
I'm hoping for Limp Bizkit vs Corey Feldman in the finals, since Fred Durst appears on both albums. We can also decide which album does a better job of murdering a classic song -- Limp Bizkit with the Who's "Behind Blue Eyes" or Corey Feldman with John Lennon's "Working Class Hero".
I think the difference between The Shaggs and Corey Feldman is that Feldman's is incredibly self-indulgent, while The Shaggs were forced into it by a parent.
@@marktrickett5081 and that’s sad because The Shaggs suck, I love Beat Happening; a lot of people hate them tho, and I don’t get why. I know RateYourMusic hates them.
That Boston album takes the cake. I remember being so pumped for the return of that band and.....oh my gosh. It's a chopped up disaster with so many vocalists. Aaaaaaaaaaagh
Taste aside, the Eagles are notorious for attacking every youtuber musician for violating their copyright, at the slightest inclusion of their material in a video, up to teaching their songs. In the UA-cam musicians community, The Eagles are the most hated band for that reason.
It's going to be interesting to see how these matches turn out. I think I know my vote already for one match up but the other I am not so sure. Guess I will have to torture myself again and give them another listen.
Kramzer’s directions for voting for 3rd Round: “vote for the album which is worse. Think as if you are going to have to listen to this album every day for the rest of your life.” Kramzer then votes against The Shaggs and Limp Bizkit to move on. I demand that Kramzer be forced to listen to The Shaggs and Limp Bizkit every day for a month as penance.
@@Sir_Eyeball We Wanted Change would be what I imagine a new David Lee Roth album would sound like. It's not on par with My Pal Foot Foot or It's Halloween. The problem with the Shaggs vocals is their dreadfulness is obscured by the drums and guitars. If the instrumentation had been in tune and on time - as Feldman's is - then the lispy tone dead non melodies would stand out even more.
About Limp Bizkit’s Who cover, it’s absolutely unbelievable they added this bridge with the speak-and-spell which totally demolishes the intent the original lyrics tried to convey. What on earth were they thinking!!????? Even more embarrassing is that I used to be into that kinda stuff and went with them for the first two albums. My ‘angry’ twenties, I guess...
March Badness is absolutely INSPIRED! Loving it!! Begs the question: Is it worse be just be straight up bad from the beginning (Feldman, Shaggs) or is it worse to once be great (Boston, Eagles, Blondie) and then horribly, tragically bottom out???
I still think the existence of "Summer in Paradise" is more egregious than anything here. It has a John Stamos cover of "Forever" and Mike Love rapping all over it. I'm just flabbergasted it didn't make it further.
I said last week that if that Beach Boys album had gone up against anything else, it would be a slam dunk to move on. Unfortunately, it got paired with that Corey Feldman album. It'd be like Gonzaga and Baylor having to play each other in the first round. I'd never heard that album before, but I was surprised to learn they sunk lower than "Kokomo."
1) I'd say the Angelic 2 the Core was the favorite to win, but if it comes down to Corey vs. Boston, it could be an honest toss up. I'd done a decent job forgetting how wretched Life, Love, and Hope was before March Badness came along. 2) I pretty much agree with Jason word for word on 2020 vs. LROOE. Bon Jovi is the equivalent of a good hearted puppy pissing on the carpet, but the Eagles only seem to care about selling $300 tickets to other boomers. I'm offended far more by the latter. 3) Something else to consider in POTW vs. Angelic is that the Shaggs stick to one lane (guitar and drums) with Corey covers a wide array of styles and is wretched at all of them. Point to the Wiggin Sisters.
Joe should know that when that Limp Bizkit album was out, there was a DJ on the radio in England who upon commenting on The Whos set at a festival the night before commended them for playing a cover of Limp Bizkit's Behind Blue Eyes.
"It's unfortunate that I have to defend one of them, again." (Ha!) I'm with Jason in regards to how that Nickelback album sounds horrible. "...just getting slapped in the face with a wet rag." That's pretty funny, too. I don't fully agree with Limp Bizkit moving on as there were moments of sound on there that weren't terrible - and I did not enjoy any of the moments on the Nickelback album, but perhaps I'm nitpicking. I guess I'm going to have to give that Corey Feldman album a full listen.
I keep not voting, because I cannot find the time to listen before voting closes. But in my mind I went against the audience every time:: 1. Shaggs over Boston - the Boston album is bad, (and sounds terrible) but Shaggs was near unlistenable. The title track (and a couple of others) have a tiny bit of charm, but some others (e.g. My Pal Foot Foot) I couldn't conceive of something that bad. 2. NIckelback over Limp Bizkit - Limp Bizkit is terrible, stupid, offensive and that damn album is over an hour long. But I kid you not, my brain developed a headache while listening to Nickelback. Maybe because I had just finished Limp Bizkit and my brain was looking for some excuse to check out, but Nickelback caused me PHYSICAL pain. 3. Liz Phair over Corey Feldman - Feldman is an actor not a musician, Liz Phair has made great music (including my favorite album by a female "Exile in Guyville") I thought her self titled 2003 album was her nadir (including "H.W.C.", which I thought was the most embarrassing song, I'd ever heard) but she really out did herself here especially the first two tracks. Feldman is bad of course but I don't find it as unlistenable as the Shaggs album. 4. Eagles over Bon Jovi - Confession I'm actually a solo Don Henley fan, I think "Boys of Summer" is one of the all time great songs. I "like" the Eagles and find Bon Jovi "okay". Here I feel Bon Jovi's heart is in the right place but just fails badly where as Eagles are just making bland soulless corporate music by design. The "Nickelback" of aging rockers, if you will. I've been loving the tournament. Looking forward to next week.
Don't insult Moneyball like that. It's actually the opposite. Moneyball is the Shaggs, outsider with no money and crappy instruments making crap. Nickelback is the Yankees with infinite resources to make utter shit.
Here's my thoughts on the final four: Boston- Life Love & Hope- this is a truly terrible release from a band that was once great. The songs have progressed zero artistically since the debut despite decades in between the release, and the songs in that unchanged style are worse, and everything is recorded extremely poorly. Every time I try to listen to this album I feel like something must be wrong with my headphones. There's literally nothing that makes me want to pay attention to the album even remotely. Bon Jovi- 2020- another case of a once good artist falling off the rails, but for decidedly different reasons. The level of out of touch shown here is truly astounding. You can hear just how much Bon Jovi is carefully composing his songs and perspective to use his platform to match several problems in the world, but the disconnect between that effort and how the actual product turns out and how it's heard by real people is just crazy and kind of hilarious. The songs sound like they were meant to be parodies for the Onion, but they weren't, and it's just painful to realize Bon Jovi has no idea. Also his voice sounds terrible. That said, I can't say that every song has no redeeming qualities at all, or there aren't things that approach musicality here, but they are few and far between, with zero examples of actual success in execution. Results May Vary- Limp Bizkit is a band that had a little bit of a popular following and of course radio success for a while but which critics have nothing to say good about at any point in their career. I tend to be skeptical when critics completely reject a style or sound that was popular at one time. Limp Bizkit to me sounds "extremely dated". By that I mean I recognize that many people realized how ridiculous their style was from the moment they came out. But for some people, it probably sounded kinda edgy and cool, at least until they learned better and realized how dumb and bad sounding their whole schtick is. From this perspective, and taken in this context, this album has some moments of creativity and catchiness, while other songs just totally fail (the cover of "Behind Blue Eyes" being an example). But of the final four I think this is the "best" one. Corey Feldman- Angelic 2 the Core- yes, this is the worst album by far. This album is absolute garbage in every sense of the word. Some of the hip hop features are not terrible, but Corey's vocals are just the worst thing you could possibly here, and he brings literally no musical value to anything here- I wish it was funny in the way "The Room" is, but you could tell Tommy Wiseau has some kind of heart and desire to make an artistic statement however misguided the product, I don't hear anything here except Hollywood BS. But here's the thing- Corey Feldman has at no point demonstrated any talent in music, and while I know he has fans of his "cache" or maybe acting abilities, I don't know anybody who would say they honestly like this music. As a result, I'm just not really sure it should qualify for this tournament. It's the worst of the albums presented, but if I made and released an album of myself burping, that would be even worse. At some point, who even cares what people decide to do or release, and that's how I feel about it, and that's why I voted for Bon Jovi 2020 despite this being objectively worse as music- because that's a more "memorable" bad.
I have a feeling the fan vote will be overturned in Boston’s favor for the next round. I sampled some of that and can’t wrap my head around why drum programming like that would come from an obsessive studio wizard. Probably the only song I know from Results May Vary is the terrible “Behind Blue Eyes” cover, but I wonder if I’d be a little more forgiving of the album than Boston since there was actually a time on my life where I actually liked their first two Limp Bizkit albums and could tolerate Fred’s obnoxiousness a lot more. I listened to all of 2020 yesterday and it didn’t immediately jump out at me as an all time bad album. Not good by any means and maybe it would turn out to be a lot more awful on subsequent listens, but typical super obvious melodies and overwrought lyrics that are par for the course for Bon Jovi, and the vocals are less overwrought due to Jon’s age, so that might make it more preferable for some people. It’s super generic enough to seem like it came out of a machine but also seems like an album you could play in the background without people demanding to have it turned off. Not sure if that would be the case for Corey Feldman. I listened to the first several songs on that epic and I couldn’t imagine 95 minutes of it not being worse.
Went and did my 4th round voting; one more thing re Bon Jovi album: I think to top it off BJ tried singing with this weary rasp. He's a man from the streets haha..
I like The Eagles initial run of albums but still haven't heard Long Road Out of Eden. Something about it scares me to death. The length, the cover, "Busy Being Fabulous", the length....
Long Road is pretentious but there are enough solid cuts to make me wonder why it’s on the list. How Long is a killer track. No More Cloudy Days, It’s Your World Now, Last Good Time In Town are all solid. I guess after that it starts to fall off
There seem to be extra points given for "they should have known better" and "alot of people bought the album and it gets radioplay, but it shouldn't", instead of actual unlistenability.
Agree with LimpBizKit, Bon Jovi and Feldman moving on. But as bad as that Boston album is, The Shaggs are unlistenable. We’ve all been to crappy junior high music performances...none of us like it. There’s zero musical talent there. It’s like that time that artist did a ‘toilet’ (Marcel Duchamp’s ‘Fountain’) and called it art and everyone was like ‘yeah that’s such proactive art’. No, it’s stupid.
Boston is one of those bands that are way more popular (or hated for that matter) in the US than in Europe. Over here you'll be hard pressed to find someone who can name a song by Boston other than "More than a feeling", even among people who consider themselves knowledgeable on popular music. They would be considered a one hit wonder where I come from. Nickelback are "bad" for all the reasons you mention but they do have some respect among musicians, in particular those who care for perfect play. As a guitarist, you can learn from Nickelback: how power chords work, how to make riffs off a pentatonic that are mildly more interesting than just noodling, ... they are a possible stepping stone on a guitarist's path. You can ignore them of course - well you couldn't really when they were popular. The Eagles are probably the best musicians of the whole lot on display here, which makes their album the biggest disappointment. They are also notorious for being the worst band to youtubers-musicians who take their songs for inspiration or teaching material. Don Henley and his gang have been ruining innocent people's life. They deserve all the hatred for that alone.
2020 and Angelic 2 the Core is a tough matchup. Both are seriously cringe inducing. Just to break the tie, I might give credit to Angelic for being at least somewhat entertaining in its badness (especially if you watch the videos) and having some cool sounds even if they're rendered cheesy in this context, while the Bon Jovi isn't at all entertaining in its badness, just off putting.
Holy shit they're both so bad. I'm leaning towards voting for Angelic now which is far more cringy than amusing. Listening to the album, the campy/cheesy amusing factor soon wears away and is replaced by revulsion. And maybe I will give Bon Jovi credit for at least trying to create a meaningful response to the year 2020 even though the results are terrible. And I can kinda sorta tolerate some of the acoustic guitar. On the other hand, Snoop makes an appearance on Angelic and his presence ever so slightly increases the cool factor (since we're grasping at straws here). It's like looking a two piles of shit and trying to decide which is shittier.
Whichever album wins between Boston and Limp Bizkit should win the whole thing. The albums by Bon Jovi and Corey Feldman could, at a stretch, be appreciated if listened to with the right mindset.
I agree, The Shaggs can't be really critizised for what they've done and Boston can, but the quality difference of the albums without the context is too significant imo. That Boston record is terrible and tasteless, but at least it has some moments that are actually musical. Not good, but musical. The Shaggs record hasn't.
Kramzer said Limp Bizkit gets a little credit for having a song on there that they didn't write, but I think they get an extra demerit for including such a terrible version of Behind Blue Eyes. Having said that, the Boston is still worse.
Last week was Holy Week, and it looks like I missed an extra load of content.. (Happy Easter, by the way!).. I have a 2010 ranking somewhere, I'll post it soon... But no GMA this week?? What gives?
All Hail Joe the Man of the People! Delivering his arguments like a boss! Jason maintains his role as the preserve of artistic expression - where even when I disagree with him I respect him. Kramzer ... Damn, man, you really hate a lot of artists like The Eagles, Billy Joel, and Nickelback. You really need to be more open minded, brother.
@@TastesLikeMusic No. noooo.... Even the most diehard misogynist deserves his soundtrack, man! And Rockstar is them flaunting it for all it’s worth, as if they derive some kind of pride out of what they’re doing.
This is really weird I have my taste and I just look for who of the 3 is more or less in my corner BUTT this show is intoxicating Good go But now I have the awful urge to waste my time listening to at least 4 or 5 of these albums I’m really looking forward to at least a goofy experience listening to the elder and just how bad the Boston cood beeeee THE SHAGS HAVE AUDACITY ON THERE SIDE I WOULD LIKE TO SEA A RUN OFF OF BAD ALBUMS THAT SUM OF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A FANFARE FORE Tejas by ZZ Top is my best example of an album that gets loads of respect I JUST CANT LIKe IT AT ALL
Jo deserves a medal for ensuring Limp Bizkit’s progress to the next round. Just offensively bad on every level. Definitely the right choices were made for the final 4.
Never ever would that Boston album be worse than this cruelty by The Shaggs. What surprised me most was that the people also voted for Boston. I don't get it. That said, I find it really interesting that there are people who like 'Philosophy of the World', but sometimes it feels like they just say that to be provocative.
Say what you will but Philosophy of the World is a much more entertaining listen than Life Love & Hope. Objectively it's "worse" from a music theory perspective but for some reason listening to it is kind of fun and hilarious. Can't say the same about Boston which is just sad, and nothing else.
the point of being a rock star is being popular and selling records ? .....i mean yes partially , but to say that is the sole purpose and end of creating rock music would be a fallacy ......have you not forgotten about all the free drugs and hot chicks JOE ?!? :P
Simply a travesty. There is nothing that compares to the Shaggs. I can actually make it through that Boston album - it's bad, the songs are just like snippets and cast off ideas of previous Boston songs, and it sounds like a cassette tape that came apart and you had to fix it with a pencil and scotch tape. But I can make it through, in sorrow at what had become of them. The Shaggs is physically painful to listen to. I can listen to the beginning of each song but have never made it through any of them. The impossible to tune cheap guitars, tone deaf voices, frighteningly awful lyrics and mindless beatless drums are a category all their own. There's nothing this horrific.
@@sylvestermatera2719 If it had been intentional it would be anti-music. With Boston, I just hear a mediocre album that pales in a bands former greatness, made hard to listen to as it was mixed by a 67 year old rock star who can't hear the wall of noise that hovers over every song making it painful for the rest of us. It probably sounds bright and wonderful to people who have lost the low end of the hearing spectrum.
Damn, I voted for Boston and Bon Jovi and they're currently losing. My current least to worst of the remaining players - 2020, Angelic, Life, and finally Results (which I don't think belongs in this contest, certainly not this late in the mix).
It blows my mind that Limp Bizkit has made it this far. I’ve voted against them in every single round so far. Quite a Cinderella run if you ask me. -Jason
I'm so glad Limp Bizkit made it to the final four. Sure the Nickelback record is pretty mediocre but it's nowhere near the level of awful that Results May Very is.
I may feel bad for them, but I literally cannot listen to the Shaggs. At least with the other albums there is some professional production going on somewhere by some musicians of sorts. Strictly from a music standpoint, the Shaggs ain't.
Bob Jovi was always a poor man’s John Cougar who is a poor man’s Springsteen. Bon Jovi is a no talent wanna-be at the best of times. I just hate his music.
I'm a subscriber and loved this channel until "worst .....ever". seriously so many great lists to do but these are so bad! Not only not nice but not that accurate! Please turn it around fellows I have faith in ya!
Corey Feldman put out something that is self-consciously and purposefully bad. It's a joke and a publicity stunt. I don't believe that this was ever intended to be anything but bad. I hate giving him publicity for it.
I doubt he was actually trying to make something bad. I think he was really trying. But I would need to see real evidence one way or the other to make that call.
@@179rich Listen to the album and watch the videos. The videos are like a spoof, and the album sounds like the Spinal Tap soundtrack at times. He does this goofy Michael Jackson impersonation. There's a cutaway where there's a stadium behind him and the fans are all turned the wrong way. He's playing on a 5×5 stage where no one is listening. It's a self-conscious spoof, and not even a very good one. That is a spoof is so obvious that it becomes bad all over again just because of the complete lack of subtlety. I mean, the Spinal Tap songs were bad, but there was some musicality in them. Feldman's songs are just dumb and bad. Lickety Splickety? Seriously?
It's not a joke to him. He sold pricey tickets for a meet and greet at a rented house. He was so upset that barely anyone paid to see him that he refused to leave the bedroom lol. He wants to be Michael Jackson so badly.
@@frodofraggins If you had a famous abuse case by Michael Jackson and wanted to make serious music, would you consciously try to copy his look? Nothing on the album seems even close to trying to get Jackson's sound or groove. Again, it's more like Spinal Tap (even a very similar voice from the "Creation" track). The album debuted to several videos about how bad it was, and the videos only reinforce the badness. I think it was a conscious publicity stunt to keep Feldman in our consciousness, and a number of people probably bought the album as a joke. But I don't believe that a consciously bad album should have defeated Liz Phair who was actually trying (and failing miserably) to make a good album and just botched it completely.
@@kylelooper2156 have you watched him live promoting this album? He cops michael's moves all the time. I don't think you recognize the level of delusion when it comes to Feldman and his music. He takes it very seriously, and frankly he doesn't have much of a sense of humor anyway.
Boston's not that bad? Boston' is way better than the Shaggs better guitar playing ? Limp Biscuit or Nickel Back yeah a tie both are 1 star. I'll pick Liz Phair better than Cory Feldman Bon Jovi or the Eagles calling this a draw. how about the puck? Joe I think Jason is kidding.
Joe presented his argument on the Nichelback vs Limp Biscuit like a lawyer. Well done Joe!
6:50 Yep! Loved his rhetorical skills!
I listens to all four of these 'winners'. Thank you Listography, for ruining my life.
“It’s all about the he said she Said”. Kramzer you had me rolling. 😅😂
The Bon Jovi fall before he gets to you/ Air ball comments made me laugh - I needed a chuckle today
I am pleased with the audience votes here - helps restore my faith in humanity!
i was one of the defenders of angelic 2 the core btw.......lets look at it like this : One time hollywood darling and child star one coreginald feldman finding himself ostracized and disavowed by the industry which once adored him pores his every resource financially , emotionally and energetically into the only document of musicianship which could possibly expose and exorcise the insidious festering underbelly of the corrupt soul less machine that is corporate film making . by way of incredible perseverance , ingenuity and style coreginald single handedly midwifes a stellar slab of perfect folk art to embarrass and decimate all opposition to the rising of this prodigys emergence from the ashes of ignomimity with the assistance of his sexy looking angels and the 90's top 40 radioesque eminently catchy tunes which he propels onto the tape like so many michael jackson hip thrusts ( which he has also perfected . is there anything the man cant do ?) . in closing this album is clearly a magnum opus for this artist and one of the most profound concept albums of all time . for shame , all of you culture vulgarians who have neither the taste nor refinement to appreciate this masterpiece for what it is , for the rest of you who have dismissed it out of hand without actually listening to it i suggest you drop everything and turn on this life changing work of art lickety splickety . FIN
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The Limp Bizkit album is so so much harder to listen to than the Nickelback. "At least the Nickelback's catchy," exactly this. Results May Vary is aggressively unlistenable.
Limp Bizkit music is played nonstop in Hell to torture people.
I agree, they deserve to "win" this tournament.
I’m a big Limp fan. You’re wrong but this is their worst album for sure . Gotta keep on Rollin
@@wendelladams8060 Nice try. There is only one song played in Hell on repeat for all eternity. And that song is "Cherry Pie" by Warrant. You should be so lucky to get one band's entire catalog, no matter how shitty.
Yeah, and there’s really not much you can defend with Nickelback; they’re both horrible, but Limp Bizkit definitely gets the slight badness edge lol
I received a record token for Xmas (didn’t know they were still a thing) I decided to hang on to it until lockdown lifted here in the UK and visit a record store (how I’ve missed that simple pleasure) I had a few albums in mind for my purchase, but as it was, with respect, a freebie, I have decided, that purchase is going to be the winner of the “March Badness” contest. I have listened to all four semi finalists and can honestly say, anyone will take pride of place as the worst album I own (although I do have “Victim of Love “ by Elton John on vinyl, so it’s going to be a close call 🤪
Once again, a stellar performance. I'm a 55 year old music school grad who hasn't heard a single Nickelback song but am aware of their poor reputation. I'm in tear's laughing at your commentary. How about an XTC ranking?
Lucky you.
And yes to an XTC rating!!!
The best for me would be a tie between Skylarking or Oranges and Lemons
I'm hoping for Limp Bizkit vs Corey Feldman in the finals, since Fred Durst appears on both albums. We can also decide which album does a better job of murdering a classic song -- Limp Bizkit with the Who's "Behind Blue Eyes" or Corey Feldman with John Lennon's "Working Class Hero".
Snoop appears on both too.
I think the difference between The Shaggs and Corey Feldman is that Feldman's is incredibly self-indulgent, while The Shaggs were forced into it by a parent.
The Shaggs might be Beat Happening if they'd had a drummer that kept time.
@@marktrickett5081 and that’s sad because The Shaggs suck, I love Beat Happening; a lot of people hate them tho, and I don’t get why. I know RateYourMusic hates them.
That Boston album takes the cake. I remember being so pumped for the return of that band and.....oh my gosh. It's a chopped up disaster with so many vocalists. Aaaaaaaaaaagh
I understand not "getting" a band, but I don't understand the Eagles hatred. But I know Long Road is a bad album.
It’s just soft, edge-less, uninteresting music. And, Desperado, which is probably their best album, is just blatant misogyny.
Taste aside, the Eagles are notorious for attacking every youtuber musician for violating their copyright, at the slightest inclusion of their material in a video, up to teaching their songs. In the UA-cam musicians community, The Eagles are the most hated band for that reason.
Joe made the right call with Limp Bizkit. :-D
It's going to be interesting to see how these matches turn out. I think I know my vote already for one match up but the other I am not so sure. Guess I will have to torture myself again and give them another listen.
Kramzer’s directions for voting for 3rd Round: “vote for the album which is worse. Think as if you are going to have to listen to this album every day for the rest of your life.”
Kramzer then votes against The Shaggs and Limp Bizkit to move on.
I demand that Kramzer be forced to listen to The Shaggs and Limp Bizkit every day for a month as penance.
The only album in the entire field that could be used as a torture device is the Shaggs.
@@realCaptainSanta Listen to 'We Wanted Change' by Corey Feldman and say that again. It contains the single worst vocal performance in the universe.
Corey’s album is really, really, mind jarring, vomit inducing bad music, but I don’t see how The Shaggs album can even be classified as music.
Lol. That would be true torture.
@@Sir_Eyeball We Wanted Change would be what I imagine a new David Lee Roth album would sound like. It's not on par with My Pal Foot Foot or It's Halloween. The problem with the Shaggs vocals is their dreadfulness is obscured by the drums and guitars. If the instrumentation had been in tune and on time - as Feldman's is - then the lispy tone dead non melodies would stand out even more.
About Limp Bizkit’s Who cover, it’s absolutely unbelievable they added this bridge with the speak-and-spell which totally demolishes the intent the original lyrics tried to convey.
What on earth were they thinking!!?????
Even more embarrassing is that I used to be into that kinda stuff and went with them for the first two albums. My ‘angry’ twenties, I guess...
March Badness is absolutely INSPIRED! Loving it!! Begs the question: Is it worse be just be straight up bad from the beginning (Feldman, Shaggs) or is it worse to once be great (Boston, Eagles, Blondie) and then horribly, tragically bottom out???
That’s the question hopefully this tournament will answer.
I still think the existence of "Summer in Paradise" is more egregious than anything here. It has a John Stamos cover of "Forever" and Mike Love rapping all over it. I'm just flabbergasted it didn't make it further.
It ran up against a buzz saw.
I said last week that if that Beach Boys album had gone up against anything else, it would be a slam dunk to move on. Unfortunately, it got paired with that Corey Feldman album. It'd be like Gonzaga and Baylor having to play each other in the first round. I'd never heard that album before, but I was surprised to learn they sunk lower than "Kokomo."
@@edgustafson Kokomo is a masterpiece compared to what can be found on Summer in Paradise.
1) I'd say the Angelic 2 the Core was the favorite to win, but if it comes down to Corey vs. Boston, it could be an honest toss up. I'd done a decent job forgetting how wretched Life, Love, and Hope was before March Badness came along.
2) I pretty much agree with Jason word for word on 2020 vs. LROOE. Bon Jovi is the equivalent of a good hearted puppy pissing on the carpet, but the Eagles only seem to care about selling $300 tickets to other boomers. I'm offended far more by the latter.
3) Something else to consider in POTW vs. Angelic is that the Shaggs stick to one lane (guitar and drums) with Corey covers a wide array of styles and is wretched at all of them. Point to the Wiggin Sisters.
Re: Shaggs vs. Corey Feldman argument, IMO Feldman's celebrity/notoriety is the deciding factor working against him.
Hehe you guys are too much!
Love these knock-outs! 😂
Don't know any of this horrible albums, but I believe you.
Lol. I’m with you. After listening to them...I’ll just take their word and listen to music I like.
Joe should know that when that Limp Bizkit album was out, there was a DJ on the radio in England who upon commenting on The Whos set at a festival the night before commended them for playing a cover of Limp Bizkit's Behind Blue Eyes.
"It's unfortunate that I have to defend one of them, again." (Ha!) I'm with Jason in regards to how that Nickelback album sounds horrible. "...just getting slapped in the face with a wet rag." That's pretty funny, too. I don't fully agree with Limp Bizkit moving on as there were moments of sound on there that weren't terrible - and I did not enjoy any of the moments on the Nickelback album, but perhaps I'm nitpicking. I guess I'm going to have to give that Corey Feldman album a full listen.
I keep not voting, because I cannot find the time to listen before voting closes. But in my mind I went against the audience every time::
1. Shaggs over Boston - the Boston album is bad, (and sounds terrible) but Shaggs was near unlistenable. The title track (and a couple of others) have a tiny bit of charm, but some others (e.g. My Pal Foot Foot) I couldn't conceive of something that bad.
2. NIckelback over Limp Bizkit - Limp Bizkit is terrible, stupid, offensive and that damn album is over an hour long. But I kid you not, my brain developed a headache while listening to Nickelback. Maybe because I had just finished Limp Bizkit and my brain was looking for some excuse to check out, but Nickelback caused me PHYSICAL pain.
3. Liz Phair over Corey Feldman - Feldman is an actor not a musician, Liz Phair has made great music (including my favorite album by a female "Exile in Guyville") I thought her self titled 2003 album was her nadir (including "H.W.C.", which I thought was the most embarrassing song, I'd ever heard) but she really out did herself here especially the first two tracks. Feldman is bad of course but I don't find it as unlistenable as the Shaggs album.
4. Eagles over Bon Jovi - Confession I'm actually a solo Don Henley fan, I think "Boys of Summer" is one of the all time great songs. I "like" the Eagles and find Bon Jovi "okay". Here I feel Bon Jovi's heart is in the right place but just fails badly where as Eagles are just making bland soulless corporate music by design. The "Nickelback" of aging rockers, if you will.
I've been loving the tournament. Looking forward to next week.
It's like Nickelback applies the Moneyball philosophy to music.
Don't insult Moneyball like that. It's actually the opposite. Moneyball is the Shaggs, outsider with no money and crappy instruments making crap. Nickelback is the Yankees with infinite resources to make utter shit.
@@Ras137 I was talking about the use of analytics to assemble a team and to manage a team. Similar to market research.
@@Ras137 The A's organization isn't trying to field a bad team. It's trying to field a good team using analytics to spend less money.
Here's my thoughts on the final four:
Boston- Life Love & Hope- this is a truly terrible release from a band that was once great. The songs have progressed zero artistically since the debut despite decades in between the release, and the songs in that unchanged style are worse, and everything is recorded extremely poorly. Every time I try to listen to this album I feel like something must be wrong with my headphones. There's literally nothing that makes me want to pay attention to the album even remotely.
Bon Jovi- 2020- another case of a once good artist falling off the rails, but for decidedly different reasons. The level of out of touch shown here is truly astounding. You can hear just how much Bon Jovi is carefully composing his songs and perspective to use his platform to match several problems in the world, but the disconnect between that effort and how the actual product turns out and how it's heard by real people is just crazy and kind of hilarious. The songs sound like they were meant to be parodies for the Onion, but they weren't, and it's just painful to realize Bon Jovi has no idea. Also his voice sounds terrible. That said, I can't say that every song has no redeeming qualities at all, or there aren't things that approach musicality here, but they are few and far between, with zero examples of actual success in execution.
Results May Vary- Limp Bizkit is a band that had a little bit of a popular following and of course radio success for a while but which critics have nothing to say good about at any point in their career. I tend to be skeptical when critics completely reject a style or sound that was popular at one time. Limp Bizkit to me sounds "extremely dated". By that I mean I recognize that many people realized how ridiculous their style was from the moment they came out. But for some people, it probably sounded kinda edgy and cool, at least until they learned better and realized how dumb and bad sounding their whole schtick is. From this perspective, and taken in this context, this album has some moments of creativity and catchiness, while other songs just totally fail (the cover of "Behind Blue Eyes" being an example). But of the final four I think this is the "best" one.
Corey Feldman- Angelic 2 the Core- yes, this is the worst album by far. This album is absolute garbage in every sense of the word. Some of the hip hop features are not terrible, but Corey's vocals are just the worst thing you could possibly here, and he brings literally no musical value to anything here- I wish it was funny in the way "The Room" is, but you could tell Tommy Wiseau has some kind of heart and desire to make an artistic statement however misguided the product, I don't hear anything here except Hollywood BS. But here's the thing- Corey Feldman has at no point demonstrated any talent in music, and while I know he has fans of his "cache" or maybe acting abilities, I don't know anybody who would say they honestly like this music. As a result, I'm just not really sure it should qualify for this tournament. It's the worst of the albums presented, but if I made and released an album of myself burping, that would be even worse. At some point, who even cares what people decide to do or release, and that's how I feel about it, and that's why I voted for Bon Jovi 2020 despite this being objectively worse as music- because that's a more "memorable" bad.
Joe should grow his beard out until you guys do Steely Dan
That Eagles album could be used as torture in some countries...... scratch that........ it could be used as torture in all countries....... :)
Isn't it? They should have titled "Exit Out OF Eden", "Enhanced Interrogation" instead.
Yup , a never ending borefest ha ha
I have a feeling the fan vote will be overturned in Boston’s favor for the next round. I sampled some of that and can’t wrap my head around why drum programming like that would come from an obsessive studio wizard. Probably the only song I know from Results May Vary is the terrible “Behind Blue Eyes” cover, but I wonder if I’d be a little more forgiving of the album than Boston since there was actually a time on my life where I actually liked their first two Limp Bizkit albums and could tolerate Fred’s obnoxiousness a lot more.
I listened to all of 2020 yesterday and it didn’t immediately jump out at me as an all time bad album. Not good by any means and maybe it would turn out to be a lot more awful on subsequent listens, but typical super obvious melodies and overwrought lyrics that are par for the course for Bon Jovi, and the vocals are less overwrought due to Jon’s age, so that might make it more preferable for some people. It’s super generic enough to seem like it came out of a machine but also seems like an album you could play in the background without people demanding to have it turned off. Not sure if that would be the case for Corey Feldman. I listened to the first several songs on that epic and I couldn’t imagine 95 minutes of it not being worse.
Went and did my 4th round voting; one more thing re Bon Jovi album: I think to top it off BJ tried singing with this weary rasp. He's a man from the streets haha..
I like The Eagles initial run of albums but still haven't heard Long Road Out of Eden. Something about it scares me to death. The length, the cover, "Busy Being Fabulous", the length....
Long Road is pretentious but there are enough solid cuts to make me wonder why it’s on the list. How Long is a killer track. No More Cloudy Days, It’s Your World Now, Last Good Time In Town are all solid. I guess after that it starts to fall off
Boston stomped by the Shaggs!
Yes!
Corey , Jon winner better win this thing.
At least Liz Phair has some fashion sense.
There seem to be extra points given for "they should have known better" and "alot of people bought the album and it gets radioplay, but it shouldn't", instead of actual unlistenability.
Agree with LimpBizKit, Bon Jovi and Feldman moving on.
But as bad as that Boston album is, The Shaggs are unlistenable. We’ve all been to crappy junior high music performances...none of us like it. There’s zero musical talent there. It’s like that time that artist did a ‘toilet’ (Marcel Duchamp’s ‘Fountain’) and called it art and everyone was like ‘yeah that’s such proactive art’. No, it’s stupid.
"Market Research Band" 🤣
Haha yeah, as if they’re broadcasted on the airwaves by commission.
Love that line!
Boston is one of those bands that are way more popular (or hated for that matter) in the US than in Europe. Over here you'll be hard pressed to find someone who can name a song by Boston other than "More than a feeling", even among people who consider themselves knowledgeable on popular music. They would be considered a one hit wonder where I come from.
Nickelback are "bad" for all the reasons you mention but they do have some respect among musicians, in particular those who care for perfect play. As a guitarist, you can learn from Nickelback: how power chords work, how to make riffs off a pentatonic that are mildly more interesting than just noodling, ... they are a possible stepping stone on a guitarist's path. You can ignore them of course - well you couldn't really when they were popular.
The Eagles are probably the best musicians of the whole lot on display here, which makes their album the biggest disappointment. They are also notorious for being the worst band to youtubers-musicians who take their songs for inspiration or teaching material. Don Henley and his gang have been ruining innocent people's life. They deserve all the hatred for that alone.
2020 and Angelic 2 the Core is a tough matchup. Both are seriously cringe inducing. Just to break the tie, I might give credit to Angelic for being at least somewhat entertaining in its badness (especially if you watch the videos) and having some cool sounds even if they're rendered cheesy in this context, while the Bon Jovi isn't at all entertaining in its badness, just off putting.
Holy shit they're both so bad. I'm leaning towards voting for Angelic now which is far more cringy than amusing. Listening to the album, the campy/cheesy amusing factor soon wears away and is replaced by revulsion. And maybe I will give Bon Jovi credit for at least trying to create a meaningful response to the year 2020 even though the results are terrible. And I can kinda sorta tolerate some of the acoustic guitar. On the other hand, Snoop makes an appearance on Angelic and his presence ever so slightly increases the cool factor (since we're grasping at straws here). It's like looking a two piles of shit and trying to decide which is shittier.
Whichever album wins between Boston and Limp Bizkit should win the whole thing. The albums by Bon Jovi and Corey Feldman could, at a stretch, be appreciated if listened to with the right mindset.
Like being high on LSD and MDMA at the same time?
I like the Eagles but I can't stand Long Road Out of Eden
Yep, Shaggs have an excuse, Boston should know much better.
I agree, The Shaggs can't be really critizised for what they've done and Boston can, but the quality difference of the albums without the context is too significant imo. That Boston record is terrible and tasteless, but at least it has some moments that are actually musical. Not good, but musical. The Shaggs record hasn't.
@@Sir_Eyeball I gave the Shaggs album some credit for at least being bizarre, intriguing and unique, while the Boston is just repellant.
@@179rich I get your point, I also give them the uniqueness but I wouldn't call this Shaggs album intriguing. Rather horrifying to me.
Kramzer said Limp Bizkit gets a little credit for having a song on there that they didn't write, but I think they get an extra demerit for including such a terrible version of Behind Blue Eyes. Having said that, the Boston is still worse.
Limp Bizkit can recite Shakespeare on music and maim it beyond repair.
Last week was Holy Week, and it looks like I missed an extra load of content.. (Happy Easter, by the way!).. I have a 2010 ranking somewhere, I'll post it soon...
But no GMA this week?? What gives?
Too much Easter!
can i make a suggestion? you guys should vote first and reveal the audience winner after to make it more dramatic
The audience winner is already available on the website there's no cat to let out of the bag
All Hail Joe the Man of the People! Delivering his arguments like a boss!
Jason maintains his role as the preserve of artistic expression - where even when I disagree with him I respect him.
Kramzer ... Damn, man, you really hate a lot of artists like The Eagles, Billy Joel, and Nickelback. You really need to be more open minded, brother.
Out on a limb: Rockstar is a funny, tongue-in-cheek song. It's not THAT bad.
It’s trying to be tongue in cheek but it feels way too close to their reality to be funny. The lyrics to Animals are unforgivable. -Jason
@@TastesLikeMusic No. noooo....
Even the most diehard misogynist deserves his soundtrack, man!
And Rockstar is them flaunting it for all it’s worth, as if they derive some kind of pride out of what they’re doing.
Once again, Joe is the man of the people. He is definitely right on Limp Bizkit
This is really weird
I have my taste and I just look for who of the 3 is more or less in my corner
BUTT
this show is intoxicating
Good go
But now I have the awful urge to waste my time listening to at least 4 or 5 of these albums
I’m really looking forward to at least a goofy experience listening to the elder and just how bad the Boston cood beeeee
THE SHAGS HAVE AUDACITY ON THERE SIDE
I WOULD LIKE TO SEA A RUN OFF OF BAD ALBUMS THAT SUM OF YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A FANFARE FORE
Tejas by ZZ Top is my best example of an album that gets loads of respect
I JUST CANT LIKe IT AT ALL
Jo deserves a medal for ensuring Limp Bizkit’s progress to the next round. Just offensively bad on every level. Definitely the right choices were made for the final 4.
Never ever would that Boston album be worse than this cruelty by The Shaggs. What surprised me most was that the people also voted for Boston. I don't get it.
That said, I find it really interesting that there are people who like 'Philosophy of the World', but sometimes it feels like they just say that to be provocative.
BOSTON KNOWS BETTER. THE Shags are cultural icons.
@@sylvestermatera2719 That's what I meant.
Say what you will but Philosophy of the World is a much more entertaining listen than Life Love & Hope. Objectively it's "worse" from a music theory perspective but for some reason listening to it is kind of fun and hilarious. Can't say the same about Boston which is just sad, and nothing else.
@@zacharypopp3549 Agreed.
the point of being a rock star is being popular and selling records ? .....i mean yes partially , but to say that is the sole purpose and end of creating rock music would be a fallacy ......have you not forgotten about all the free drugs and hot chicks JOE ?!? :P
Neither I, or nickelback could ever forget that. - Joe
Simply a travesty. There is nothing that compares to the Shaggs. I can actually make it through that Boston album - it's bad, the songs are just like snippets and cast off ideas of previous Boston songs, and it sounds like a cassette tape that came apart and you had to fix it with a pencil and scotch tape. But I can make it through, in sorrow at what had become of them. The Shaggs is physically painful to listen to. I can listen to the beginning of each song but have never made it through any of them. The impossible to tune cheap guitars, tone deaf voices, frighteningly awful lyrics and mindless beatless drums are a category all their own. There's nothing this horrific.
Reminded me of early Sonic Youth but a little catchier. - Joe
I like the Shaggs. Anti-music. Great! Boston is just Tom whats his name displaying how bored and bland he is.
@@TastesLikeMusic lol
@@sylvestermatera2719 If it had been intentional it would be anti-music. With Boston, I just hear a mediocre album that pales in a bands former greatness, made hard to listen to as it was mixed by a 67 year old rock star who can't hear the wall of noise that hovers over every song making it painful for the rest of us. It probably sounds bright and wonderful to people who have lost the low end of the hearing spectrum.
I don't know. "My Pal Foot Foot" kind of rocks.
Boston vs Corey Feldman for the final.
I sure hope so. -Jason
Damn, I voted for Boston and Bon Jovi and they're currently losing. My current least to worst of the remaining players - 2020, Angelic, Life, and finally Results (which I don't think belongs in this contest, certainly not this late in the mix).
It blows my mind that Limp Bizkit has made it this far. I’ve voted against them in every single round so far. Quite a Cinderella run if you ask me. -Jason
@@TastesLikeMusic Trying to take that cookie?
I STILL HAVE MY MONEY ON NO FUN BY LIZ PHAIR TO BE THE WORST OF THE BADDIES. PLACE YOUR BETS.
I'm so glad Limp Bizkit made it to the final four. Sure the Nickelback record is pretty mediocre but it's nowhere near the level of awful that Results May Very is.
Feldman and The Shaggs should not even be eligible for the tournament.
I may feel bad for them, but I literally cannot listen to the Shaggs. At least with the other albums there is some professional production going on somewhere by some musicians of sorts. Strictly from a music standpoint, the Shaggs ain't.
Thank you Joe for sending Bizkit to the final four, they deserve to "win" this tournament.
Never heard any of these albums
You’re lucky
@@TastesLikeMusic lol
Only Rock Music? What about Jazz and electronica? Surprise us...
Bob Jovi was always a poor man’s John Cougar who is a poor man’s Springsteen. Bon Jovi is a no talent wanna-be at the best of times. I just hate his music.
I feel the same. The bon Jovi album is clearly the one I hate the most.
I'm a subscriber and loved this channel until "worst .....ever". seriously so many great lists to do but these are so bad! Not only not nice but not that accurate! Please turn it around fellows I have faith in ya!
Oh c’mon!
@@TastesLikeMusic Sorry but no hate we all really just want to find hidden or real treasures not SHIT!
Corey Feldman put out something that is self-consciously and purposefully bad. It's a joke and a publicity stunt. I don't believe that this was ever intended to be anything but bad. I hate giving him publicity for it.
I doubt he was actually trying to make something bad. I think he was really trying. But I would need to see real evidence one way or the other to make that call.
@@179rich Listen to the album and watch the videos. The videos are like a spoof, and the album sounds like the Spinal Tap soundtrack at times. He does this goofy Michael Jackson impersonation. There's a cutaway where there's a stadium behind him and the fans are all turned the wrong way. He's playing on a 5×5 stage where no one is listening.
It's a self-conscious spoof, and not even a very good one. That is a spoof is so obvious that it becomes bad all over again just because of the complete lack of subtlety. I mean, the Spinal Tap songs were bad, but there was some musicality in them. Feldman's songs are just dumb and bad. Lickety Splickety? Seriously?
It's not a joke to him. He sold pricey tickets for a meet and greet at a rented house. He was so upset that barely anyone paid to see him that he refused to leave the bedroom lol.
He wants to be Michael Jackson so badly.
@@frodofraggins If you had a famous abuse case by Michael Jackson and wanted to make serious music, would you consciously try to copy his look?
Nothing on the album seems even close to trying to get Jackson's sound or groove. Again, it's more like Spinal Tap (even a very similar voice from the "Creation" track).
The album debuted to several videos about how bad it was, and the videos only reinforce the badness. I think it was a conscious publicity stunt to keep Feldman in our consciousness, and a number of people probably bought the album as a joke.
But I don't believe that a consciously bad album should have defeated Liz Phair who was actually trying (and failing miserably) to make a good album and just botched it completely.
@@kylelooper2156 have you watched him live promoting this album? He cops michael's moves all the time.
I don't think you recognize the level of delusion when it comes to Feldman and his music. He takes it very seriously, and frankly he doesn't have much of a sense of humor anyway.
Boston's not that bad? Boston' is way better than the Shaggs better guitar playing ?
Limp Biscuit or Nickel Back yeah a tie both are 1 star.
I'll pick Liz Phair better than Cory Feldman
Bon Jovi or the Eagles calling this a draw.
how about the puck?
Joe I think Jason is kidding.
Day 4 asking for soundgarden
Ask Steve Fleming what day he’s on asking for The Beach Boys. We’ll get to everyone eventually.
I don't think they're going to crank out a listography just because you beat them into submission. Also, Badmotorfinger is clearly #1.
@@edgustafson Superunknown