For initial plane alignment honestly the easiest way is straight from the scanner software bring into a 3D slicer and choose lay on face then export to .STL. Easier than any other software, but hopefully some day this will be built in to the scanner software.
been debating buying one of these for doing PPF. You hit me right in the feels with the 13B end plate. now i must buy one regardless of worth or purpose
I instantly recognized the rear iron plate, but you called it a housing. The housing sits between the iron plates with a rotor in it and is make of aluminum.
I sure hope so 3d scanning tech is moving really slow and the software is too but now that there is a bunch of competition I hope that finally pushes larger companies to start more innovation in scanner and software tech
Impressive that it didn't lose tracking which doing such a complex scan, and how fast it re-oriented the model when you started doing more scanning. Surely the low ambient light levels are part of why it scanned so well? I've found any light with mains flicker causes all sorts of scanning problems. It'd be great if the budget scanner makers did add reverse engineering features into their software, but I'm not sure I see that happening. How big is the budget reverse engineering market vs the aesthetic / blender / gaming modelling market? I agree an easy way to align the scan with a cartesian coordinate system, add other planes not in that coordinate system, and the take sections through the mesh parallel to those planes to capture hole and boss centres and sizes would be very useful. Selectively turning sections through near circular features into arcs would be super useful too (although no doubt they'd ned to be an a separate file such as a dxf - not a problem as long as it's on the same absolute coordinate system as the mesh). I don't think such an imaginary piece of software needs to be able to do a lot more than that to make reverse engineering scans of car parts in CAD a lot easier. It would also have the nice advantage of being compatible with any CAD system if it only output stl's and dxf's.
This could be a very useful tool for someone like you with all the modifications and redesigning that you do. Are you planning to use it for making the new dashboard for the hell-wagon? I remember you mentioned that you will be 3D printing it, so I guess you'll make a model first from several different pieces, then 3D scan it and then 3D print it? It will be good to get the dash finished, it's untidy at the moment with it missing.
I have been thinking on getting the scanner . I have 3 3d printers I like to mess with them a lot. Like i said been wanting to buy a scanner The only thing is I have been looking at is Unless your going to use it to make money I am wondering is it worth the money to buy on. Same as my vinyl cutter I have a 34 " cutter I have not used much lately . With everyone going to the printer cutter an the price to them. For doing reverse print to make strips on cars. I started out making banners an layers for your diff colors an graphics on cars. With the way the printer cutter works people don't want to buy the cutters .
If you think 20k for a engine is to much but your going to reverse engineer then build one for less...... you got a very rude awaking coming. youll get 20k in just tooling before you know what happened with a cnc that can handle this task.
All the reverse engineering softwares are way too expensive for hobby use. You would need a business for it. Creality will never add a feature extraction to the scanning software. Shining is now offering their own reverse engineering software but it cost thousands of dollars. The only cheap way is to use section analysis sketches in CAD software. It takes a lot of time but still cheaper than buying a dedicated software.
"The only cheap way is to use section analysis sketches in CAD software. It takes a lot of time but still cheaper than buying a dedicated software." And gives the most accurate results instead of just looking like it fits. It isn't the software choice that gives good results, its the operator/engineer that gives good results, even with crap software.
Once again something you just don't see other car guys doing, excellent video Dave, thanks
Thanks
For initial plane alignment honestly the easiest way is straight from the scanner software bring into a 3D slicer and choose lay on face then export to .STL. Easier than any other software, but hopefully some day this will be built in to the scanner software.
been debating buying one of these for doing PPF. You hit me right in the feels with the 13B end plate. now i must buy one regardless of worth or purpose
I instantly recognized the rear iron plate, but you called it a housing. The housing sits between the iron plates with a rotor in it and is make of aluminum.
No doubt this will look Stone Age in a few years.
Good video Dave!
I sure hope so 3d scanning tech is moving really slow and the software is too but now that there is a bunch of competition I hope that finally pushes larger companies to start more innovation in scanner and software tech
Impressive that it didn't lose tracking which doing such a complex scan, and how fast it re-oriented the model when you started doing more scanning. Surely the low ambient light levels are part of why it scanned so well? I've found any light with mains flicker causes all sorts of scanning problems.
It'd be great if the budget scanner makers did add reverse engineering features into their software, but I'm not sure I see that happening. How big is the budget reverse engineering market vs the aesthetic / blender / gaming modelling market? I agree an easy way to align the scan with a cartesian coordinate system, add other planes not in that coordinate system, and the take sections through the mesh parallel to those planes to capture hole and boss centres and sizes would be very useful. Selectively turning sections through near circular features into arcs would be super useful too (although no doubt they'd ned to be an a separate file such as a dxf - not a problem as long as it's on the same absolute coordinate system as the mesh). I don't think such an imaginary piece of software needs to be able to do a lot more than that to make reverse engineering scans of car parts in CAD a lot easier. It would also have the nice advantage of being compatible with any CAD system if it only output stl's and dxf's.
exactly what i wanna do lol did you finally get all the holes dimensioned and into a cam file? I would be interested to see the finsihed product
This could be a very useful tool for someone like you with all the modifications and redesigning that you do. Are you planning to use it for making the new dashboard for the hell-wagon? I remember you mentioned that you will be 3D printing it, so I guess you'll make a model first from several different pieces, then 3D scan it and then 3D print it? It will be good to get the dash finished, it's untidy at the moment with it missing.
It is not a tracking pad. It is for calibration and should be kept safe. You don’t use it for normal scanning.
Pretty expensive “tracking pad” 😅
I have been thinking on getting the scanner . I have 3 3d printers I like to mess with them a lot. Like i said been wanting to buy a scanner The only thing is I have been looking at is Unless your going to use it to make money I am wondering is it worth the money to buy on. Same as my vinyl cutter I have a 34 " cutter I have not used much lately . With everyone going to the printer cutter an the price to them. For doing reverse print to make strips on cars. I started out making banners an layers for your diff colors an graphics on cars. With the way the printer cutter works people don't want to buy the cutters .
Creality scanner should cost no more than an ender 3, but is priced like a bamboo lab
Are shadows an issue while scanning?
Yes you want good lighting if it's not it will be hard for it to gather points
Do people still hate the software for these?
my only hang up right now
Can someone explain why in the first scan he had 30fps and in the second one only 15 fps?
Can you compare it to Einstar?
I would need one to do it
Nice
If you think 20k for a engine is to much but your going to reverse engineer then build one for less...... you got a very rude awaking coming. youll get 20k in just tooling before you know what happened with a cnc that can handle this task.
I have stuff cnced all the time I can do 20 plates for 150 a plate
It's also $1000
All the reverse engineering softwares are way too expensive for hobby use. You would need a business for it.
Creality will never add a feature extraction to the scanning software. Shining is now offering their own reverse engineering software but it cost thousands of dollars.
The only cheap way is to use section analysis sketches in CAD software. It takes a lot of time but still cheaper than buying a dedicated software.
"The only cheap way is to use section analysis sketches in CAD software. It takes a lot of time but still cheaper than buying a dedicated software."
And gives the most accurate results instead of just looking like it fits.
It isn't the software choice that gives good results, its the operator/engineer that gives good results, even with crap software.
Can you tell which version of creality scan you using? b/c the last update become blind, always couldnt find a "scanning points"