To me, the main selling point of SMT II is that it's probably the best out of the Super Famicom Trilogy, particularly because of the QoL improvements (*cough* map *cough*) compared to the first game. That's just me though.
You know what's terrible is the amount of backtracking in SMT2! Though the different routes in it are very interesting! EDIT: You always gotta make sure you give back the invisibility robe you get from the goddess who was bathing for a bonus, don't be mean and steal people's clothes who are bathing 😅
this is my favourite smt game. the music slaps, the story is miles ahead smt 1 and it's just right on the difficulty sense. sometimes it's a bit hard to figure out what to do but otherwise it's awesome.
I love both smt1 and 2; Also difficulty spikes can be avoided/cheese if you grind for gems; Not only will it help with macca/mag but also the gems give great stat boosts and there is a lot of places in the overworld that has enemies that drop them often.
Other team building exercise: Pizza Party. SMT developer team building exorcise: Visit holy shrines to cleanse ourselves of demonic spirits from making our game.
Running out of magnetite? *Laughs in not summoning any demons* Wel almost When you mentioned the difficulty spikes, I thought that you would mention lucifer. I can't be the only one who had to keep reloading until he decided not to spam charm...
Not to rain on your parade but...Persona 2 never got a full western release even though we got Innocent Sin remade on PSP. They didn't bother with localizing the actual remake of Eternal Punishment. I can't imagine SMT 2 getting a localized release after it was remade twice and ported to several other platforms with nothing for western players. Would love to see it happen but this is Atlus we are talking about. The company that ported P4G to only Steam despite PS4 having a lot of the legacy fanbase from the PS2 originals and PS3 ports of 3 and 4 and a built in audience due to P4 dancing being on PS4, plus all the people who came in with 5 and Royal. The company that put Joker in Smash but has yet to put a proper Persona game on Switch. Despite having the actual sequel to P5 on Switch. If the cash cow of Persona gets that half assed treatment, what hope does mainline SMT have with the older titles?
@@zeroattentiongaming820 The worst one is SMT 1 a game with a full english translation, locked to an unplyable version on and old version of IOS, and they dont just put it on console and charge a few dollars for it
@@Ratta212 So I don't want to link it myself because I'd rather avoid any potential legal issues but I was able to find an English patched SMT 2 rom pretty quickly on Google. I know there's also a patched SMT 1 out there too as I got it ages ago.
@@zeroattentiongaming820i think we should hope about an official translation (on a playable console or pc) of smt 1 and 2, we got official spanish translation for persona 5 royale and strikers and smt 3 nocturne so, maybe, just maaaaybe atlus doesnt hate making money anymore
So thanks to this video I got my shit together after my failed attempt to play smt 1 years ago and fired up that emulator on my 3ds It's actually quite fun but I also was surprised to find out there's: A translation of the gba version of 1 and Spanish translations of both 1 and 2,that really surprised me
The “charm” the game is missing is that it isn’t rough around the edges anymore, the idea of a modern RPG has been done before, so they went back to their bread and butter for the sequel, it causes a change in tone that you’ll appreciate greater if you play Digital devil story megami tensei or the Kyuyaku variation of the game, it not only is just a fun game but recontextualises the entirety of smt 1*2
Minor nitpick, but you mention alignment-locked equipment and demons as being new to SMT2, but SMT1 had the same system in place. It actually became a bit of a nuisance toward the end for my playthrough, as I had a couple Law demons as my main healing source, but wound up taking the Chaos path.
My history with SMT 2 is pretty strange as I ended up playing it before the fan favorite Nocturne and was only my second megaten game overall. That said I really enjoyed it once I got over the culture shock of 1st person view and magnetite. I got through this game well enough and still haven't finished SMT 1 so take that as you will.
I have already been sold on SMT2 for a really long while now and plan on trying that as soon as I'm finished with my Aeon Genesis translated version of SMT1. Now I dare you to try and sell me on SMT if...!
I'm playing through smt1 right now and there are definitely alignment based equipment and you need to be the propper alignment to summon a demon, this wasn't new to 2. Or maybe it changed with the orden patch, since I'm not using it
@@toryficarola y'know, even if i find ff2's dungeons to be trashy and the story to be on the bland side,the midgame-endgame was surprisingly fun to play, if at least better than ff3's
I have no reason for why this is but I always imagined Hawke/Aleph is/was the child of Mr. Thriller and Gabriel. Human sperm and an angel's egg (hehe) coming together (oh my~!) to create new life. My reasoning? Aleph's hair is the most Micheal Jackson I've seen in forever.
Experienced glitches on the final boss. . There’s also a bug where if you buff a character that has higher stats it WILL wrap around making you weaker. . A great game nonetheless. . .
That final fantasy analogy is pretty ridiculous lol. It took ff7 selling 14 million units before we got other old school final fantasies. And that was bc it was the best selling game of its era. Just because there both JRPG series doesn’t mean there comparable mate 🤣.
Who was the guy that called FF3 garbage? That game runs laps around this game in literally every aspect except for the conceptual idea for a plot. SMT 2 is cool, but let’s not pretend that it’s not some horrible antiquated, clunky, game that has a cool idea for a story in theory. I’m not even referring to the remake of 3, but the actual NES version.
You know, i just got into Persona with the switch port of 5R. Why not do a selling you on Persona, from the point of view of a mainline fan? Before Persona I was very much a mainline elitist, hell SMT V is probably the most time I've put into a non Pokemon or Fallout RPG. I love the overall vibe and creatures of MegaTen but the social sim elements where a put off. But now with 5R on Switch I just can't stop playing, I was so wrong to write off this subseries.
I think the missing charm may have to do with the quality of the music. The music was just more catchy and remember while SMTII ost (while good) falls a little flat when comparing the both.
Well, I lost all interest in your opinion when y'all stated that final fantasy 3 was garbage. Look at the year it came out and how much more it did than anything else on 8 bit even came close to. Just later ff games stole from it so much it does not feel unique anymore, and that is in no way it's fault. Famicom FF III was a near masterpiece. SMT 2 is great, but overhyped because of it's rarity by kotaku boys. Like when gamefaqs had a rating system and fan translated only games were all given 5 stars by people who felt cool and special because they were "in the know" for getting to play them.
I guess a young guy like him does not understand all the Influences, artistic elements and design choices marrying into purpose that went onto this game. He is over burdened by modernity and did not fully experience the contrast at that time. Even through explaination someone today won't understand the art of the first phantasy star, for example. It would be as hard as "showing" what the 80's were, or pointing out how specific frustrations and or doubt or unfillment are specific tells to 70's 80's or 90's scifi. Or even how stylistic choices to restrict progress or speed of play or limiting elements with resource requirements could scratch certain itches. Remember what poor "crafting systems" or weaksauce retro art did in the early 2010's on account of people just not "getting it?" You don't get it unless you were their at the time and it played to tastes that were developed by all the other content (and their limits) at the time.
I love Obama, he's my favourite character from Shin Megami Tensei II on the Super Famicom!
Obama has accomplished so much, I understand why my parents renamed me to Dissappointment 2
If you look closely he actually looks like Obama (the president).
i played through smt 2 and didn't see this guy where was he?
So the dev team visit shrines because they know that their game is too demonic...That's terrifying.
Praying to demons for protection from demons. Ironic.
This video will remain relevant longer than stadia ❤️ thanks for having me on macca
Nice video spunt
Thank you Star-Spangler.
You right, Cerly~!
Longer than what?
@@brotbrotsen1100 I think it's called stoodia or something
What if Macca wasn’t really Macca. What if he really is just a Jack Frost who named himself Macca.
we need a face reveal now
HELLO SMT2 I WILL SOMEDAY PLAY YOU
Because of this majestic man right here.
20 hours ago!? Dude what the fuck
@@jovif.spemudaindonesia1841 He is very dedicated
how the fuck did you write this 21 hours ago
To me, the main selling point of SMT II is that it's probably the best out of the Super Famicom Trilogy, particularly because of the QoL improvements (*cough* map *cough*) compared to the first game. That's just me though.
Honestly, with 2022 being 30 anniversary for SMT, if SMTV do actually good in west we may hear about official translation or even fully blown remakes
Right as I watched the first Selling you on this morning, what a fuckin legend
It's time boys let's go
You know what's terrible is the amount of backtracking in SMT2! Though the different routes in it are very interesting! EDIT: You always gotta make sure you give back the invisibility robe you get from the goddess who was bathing for a bonus, don't be mean and steal people's clothes who are bathing 😅
this is my favourite smt game. the music slaps, the story is miles ahead smt 1 and it's just right on the difficulty sense. sometimes it's a bit hard to figure out what to do but otherwise it's awesome.
hello macca
sup dad!?
Who the fook are you?
Final Fantasy 3 isn't nowhere near garbage tho ;____; the job system was great
Rng bullshit and not saving on dungeons
If you need a third for SMT if... let me know. But Marsh he really knows that game inside and out.
Smt 2 is my favorite game of all time. I am so glad that somebody is willing to talk about it.
I love both smt1 and 2; Also difficulty spikes can be avoided/cheese if you grind for gems; Not only will it help with macca/mag but also the gems give great stat boosts and there is a lot of places in the overworld that has enemies that drop them often.
that thumbnail is beautiful
Great video! Didn’t need the FF3 slander though 😤😤
Other team building exercise: Pizza Party.
SMT developer team building exorcise: Visit holy shrines to cleanse ourselves of demonic spirits from making our game.
Running out of magnetite? *Laughs in not summoning any demons* Wel almost
When you mentioned the difficulty spikes, I thought that you would mention lucifer. I can't be the only one who had to keep reloading until he decided not to spam charm...
I love SMT II, but Final Fantasy 3 is fucking great and I WILL fight Spencer on this
as someone who just tried the pixel remasters of 2 and 3, yeah 3 is fun. 2 on the other hand, naw
I kinda like the atmosphere and story of smt 1 more than 2 even tho objectively smt 2 is a better game in terms of gameplay and QoL improvements
Started playing SMT 2 while watching this and thanks to this video looking forward to it a ton more now
Macca Frost is back with another quality video ^^
17:00 HEY HEY HEY!! CAREFUL with the SPOILERS, Macca! D:
I played this game so much one day that I got eye strain and puked.
10/10.
Okay, you won. One more channel in the list of subscriptions.
If Fire Emblem 1 came out to the West after years of not being localized. I have hope SMT II will eventually come to the West officially also.
Not to rain on your parade but...Persona 2 never got a full western release even though we got Innocent Sin remade on PSP. They didn't bother with localizing the actual remake of Eternal Punishment.
I can't imagine SMT 2 getting a localized release after it was remade twice and ported to several other platforms with nothing for western players. Would love to see it happen but this is Atlus we are talking about.
The company that ported P4G to only Steam despite PS4 having a lot of the legacy fanbase from the PS2 originals and PS3 ports of 3 and 4 and a built in audience due to P4 dancing being on PS4, plus all the people who came in with 5 and Royal. The company that put Joker in Smash but has yet to put a proper Persona game on Switch. Despite having the actual sequel to P5 on Switch.
If the cash cow of Persona gets that half assed treatment, what hope does mainline SMT have with the older titles?
@@zeroattentiongaming820 The worst one is SMT 1 a game with a full english translation, locked to an unplyable version on and old version of IOS, and they dont just put it on console and charge a few dollars for it
@@Ratta212 The amount of money Atlus is leaving on the table is just insane
@@Ratta212 So I don't want to link it myself because I'd rather avoid any potential legal issues but I was able to find an English patched SMT 2 rom pretty quickly on Google. I know there's also a patched SMT 1 out there too as I got it ages ago.
@@zeroattentiongaming820i think we should hope about an official translation (on a playable console or pc) of smt 1 and 2, we got official spanish translation for persona 5 royale and strikers and smt 3 nocturne so, maybe, just maaaaybe atlus doesnt hate making money anymore
So thanks to this video I got my shit together after my failed attempt to play smt 1 years ago and fired up that emulator on my 3ds
It's actually quite fun but I also was surprised to find out there's:
A translation of the gba version of 1 and Spanish translations of both 1 and 2,that really surprised me
SMT x Persona Arena would be awesome fighting game
The “charm” the game is missing is that it isn’t rough around the edges anymore, the idea of a modern RPG has been done before, so they went back to their bread and butter for the sequel, it causes a change in tone that you’ll appreciate greater if you play Digital devil story megami tensei or the Kyuyaku variation of the game, it not only is just a fun game but recontextualises the entirety of smt 1*2
Hello there Macca
In the spanish patch made in 2012, they fixed the names.
So then... GG.
Good video btw.
I just want Atlus to launch their games on Steam, so I'll be happy
Minor nitpick, but you mention alignment-locked equipment and demons as being new to SMT2, but SMT1 had the same system in place. It actually became a bit of a nuisance toward the end for my playthrough, as I had a couple Law demons as my main healing source, but wound up taking the Chaos path.
Oh really? My bad, I guess I never noticed since I've always done neutral playthroughs of SMT1.
You kill God at the end.
My history with SMT 2 is pretty strange as I ended up playing it before the fan favorite Nocturne and was only my second megaten game overall. That said I really enjoyed it once I got over the culture shock of 1st person view and magnetite. I got through this game well enough and still haven't finished SMT 1 so take that as you will.
SMT II is pretty awesome and really different in a lot of ways compared to SMT I
6:02 nice name
I love how clean the game looks. What version is this captured from? Ps love the vid
Sorry for the late reply
I used the SNES version in Emuhawk. Recorded it with OBS stream labs.
I have already been sold on SMT2 for a really long while now and plan on trying that as soon as I'm finished with my Aeon Genesis translated version of SMT1. Now I dare you to try and sell me on SMT if...!
I assume smt2 was never localized because they fear the mess of releasing a game where the final boss is literally God
And you play as a Jesus and Maria, siding with Lucifer /Satan to kill God.
I'm playing through smt1 right now and there are definitely alignment based equipment and you need to be the propper alignment to summon a demon, this wasn't new to 2. Or maybe it changed with the orden patch, since I'm not using it
I wish I could play the gba versions of 1 & 2
You can play the GBA version of 1, it is english translated. I played it and it's really good.
You forgot to mention that it's the first game to have skill inheritance (at least as far as mainlines go).
Jionga sounds dope!
Better than localizing it : REMAKE BOTH IN 1 60 DEAL, The exact same game, but HD graphics and optional easy mode
15:18 What the heck game is this!? If I'm not mistaken, SMT2 doesn't have a side-scrolling genre shifting side quest that looks like that. :P
"Super Mario World not listed as one of the best games on the Super Famicom/SNES"
SMW: "And I took that personally"
Can you link the name patch for SMT2?
15:43 wait, they had vr battles since smt 2? Say no more, I'll download it right this moment.
LOL come Obama waits for you lmao. That part 6:47 had me laughing.
10:12, the best part of this video i'love it
nice work, i love that i found your channel
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he said i need someone to break it down to its essentials oh man its been a minute since i laughed so hard
Yo , what was that about ff3!?
Got a little irked when he misspoke there and accidentally referred to FF2 as FF3. At least I hope that was a blooper or mistake. >:|
@@toryficarola y'know, even if i find ff2's dungeons to be trashy and the story to be on the bland side,the midgame-endgame was surprisingly fun to play, if at least better than ff3's
@@GuyParson kinda agree however I only found FF3's endgame and last few dungeons to be bad.
@@toryficarola ff3's last dungeons really feels like a fuck you to people who played whitout specializing their characters, or didnt get a ninja
Did this guy just say that the most important Final Fantasy game: Final Fantasy III is garbage?
Why the hell hasn't Atlus fixed the fact this doesn't have a western release? It blows my damned mind!! Welp, I guess I'll emulate it. Sadness. 😢
Spoonch
I'm pretty sure SMT2 also told you your alignment with the world map icon, I do remember that.
No it doesn't, it always spins the same way no matter what
@@michellewade7346 It does spin, I was playing it a while ago.
@@Crok425 Ik that, but it always spins in the same direction, it never changes to reflect your alignment
@@michellewade7346 nvm, checking online says that it doesn't... weird... I always remembered that it did.
@@Crok425 it's alright, than you for admitting you were wrong
Is there any way you could post that patch somewhere?
I have no reason for why this is but I always imagined Hawke/Aleph is/was the child of Mr. Thriller and Gabriel. Human sperm and an angel's egg (hehe) coming together (oh my~!) to create new life. My reasoning? Aleph's hair is the most Micheal Jackson I've seen in forever.
All these games deserve to get remakes, remasters, or at least direct ports.
Experienced glitches on the final boss.
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There’s also a bug where if you buff a character that has higher stats it WILL wrap around making you weaker.
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A great game nonetheless.
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What if I nerf a really weak character? Will his stats loop around to top-notch boffo specs?
Selling you on SMT if when 👀👀👀👀
But Sponge really should read chainsaw man
Unless you are are into torture, stay away. Me I’m a mashochist, let me do my 5th playthrough .
OLEEEE nice job 🌠🌠✨
So Atlus really like Masadado huh?
The Abyss
Wow, I thought all smt games were 3d. Guess I can play it now.
POLTATO PC!!!
#justacommentofappreciation
Stephen? in a Wheelchair?
Hawk?
Why does this game make a reference to Stephen Hawking?
That final fantasy analogy is pretty ridiculous lol. It took ff7 selling 14 million units before we got other old school final fantasies. And that was bc it was the best selling game of its era. Just because there both JRPG series doesn’t mean there comparable mate 🤣.
So, weird question, why do you pronounce it as [why-aech-vee-aech] and not [Yah-way]? Is it a UA-cam thing?
Its a sin for jewish people
WAAAIT
Why not upload the patch for the names if you have it?
What is the song played in 9:29? sounds really cool
Any tips on finding the best patch? I would love to play this with the best translation possible.
yayyy
i love your art btw
You said aleph wrong
You said your mom's name wrong
...what translation patch had ""Gionga"?
Zionga?
@@haruhisuzumiya6650 no "Gionga" like in the video.
I know of the Zionga translation
“Jionga”
D A N C E !
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Who was the guy that called FF3 garbage? That game runs laps around this game in literally every aspect except for the conceptual idea for a plot. SMT 2 is cool, but let’s not pretend that it’s not some horrible antiquated, clunky, game that has a cool idea for a story in theory. I’m not even referring to the remake of 3, but the actual NES version.
Which FF3? The ACTUAL third FF game or the misnumbered FFVI?
@@edboy5418 pretty obvious he is talking about actual III. It def was an idiotic thing to say, III is not garbage
You know, i just got into Persona with the switch port of 5R. Why not do a selling you on Persona, from the point of view of a mainline fan?
Before Persona I was very much a mainline elitist, hell SMT V is probably the most time I've put into a non Pokemon or Fallout RPG. I love the overall vibe and creatures of MegaTen but the social sim elements where a put off. But now with 5R on Switch I just can't stop playing, I was so wrong to write off this subseries.
GET TO THE POINT
Hard disagree with pretty much everything said in the video. SMT2 is hot garbage.
I think the missing charm may have to do with the quality of the music. The music was just more catchy and remember while SMTII ost (while good) falls a little flat when comparing the both.
Well, I lost all interest in your opinion when y'all stated that final fantasy 3 was garbage. Look at the year it came out and how much more it did than anything else on 8 bit even came close to. Just later ff games stole from it so much it does not feel unique anymore, and that is in no way it's fault. Famicom FF III was a near masterpiece. SMT 2 is great, but overhyped because of it's rarity by kotaku boys. Like when gamefaqs had a rating system and fan translated only games were all given 5 stars by people who felt cool and special because they were "in the know" for getting to play them.
100th comment lets fucking GO
I guess a young guy like him does not understand all the
Influences, artistic elements and design choices marrying into purpose that went onto this game. He is over burdened by modernity and did not fully experience the contrast at that time. Even through explaination someone today won't understand the art of the first phantasy star, for example. It would be as hard as "showing" what the 80's were, or pointing out how specific frustrations and or doubt or unfillment are specific tells to 70's 80's or 90's scifi. Or even how stylistic choices to restrict progress or speed of play or limiting elements with resource requirements could scratch certain itches. Remember what poor "crafting systems" or weaksauce retro art did in the early 2010's on account of people just not "getting it?" You don't get it unless you were their at the time and it played to tastes that were developed by all the other content (and their limits) at the time.
Spoonch