I Played Juno EARLY and... she needs a BUFF
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I saw the queue is 8 min long, then I swap to DPS and pick Echo to copy her instead.
That's so clever I need to do that
Why didn't I think of that. Played 3 games, all 10 min queues. got to play her once, and I was on the worst team possible. LOL.
Just no limits trust me, it’s so much easier
No limits or open queue is the way.
(Open queue is cut-throat you'll have to fight for juno)
No limits will just be all Juno it's kinda annoying
She won't replace Lucio even with more speed on the ring. Her speed is very temporary and stationary. Where as lucios speed is constant and can be used on the go. They both have their uses and spots in the game 😊
I would say the thing that set apart Juno and Lucio is their ult tbh. They are good in different situations. Beat is an amazing defensive ult. Whereas Orbital Ray is an amazing offensive ult. Juno trades off the reliability of a defensive ult for more healing, and speed which is less effective and has longer downtime. And she is also very divable unlike Lucio. Tournament teams would run the Lucio over Juno just for beat alone. Beat allows a second chance to win a fight whereas Orbital Ray secures a fight win.
@@Chazza-01 Great point and very true. They both offer utility in different ways in healing, abilities and general playstyle. I feel like juno will be a bit harder to slot into any team comp like how Lucio pretty much can but it's still way to early to tell. I'm excited to try her after work later
Am I the only one that likes how she is, i don't really think she needs a buff and she also pretty the fun to play
Personally I think a healing buff would be nice, it’s hard to keep teammates alive with her current healing output. Also 16 seconds for for her hyper ring a a little too much
I personally feel she’s perfectly fine where she’s at too.
Like a skill based support hero… that’s actually HEALTHY. You have nothing with her where she can just press a button and get instant heals.
She’s a high risk high reward hero. And that’s actually perfect.
Like I’m literally shocked on the balance she has.
Yeah yall are tweaking, she definitely doesn’t need a buff, if anything she should get a slight nerf to her heatseeking missiles, her healing is nuts, maybe not in low rank but I can easily see her being a problem in high rank
Nah I also think she's good i ver actual state, maybe add vertical movement on the flight, but aside from that she the funniest hero i've played for a while, made me enjoy the game for once
@@sleepybread8894she heals a lot but you have to aim, I think maybe your used to the auto heal lifeweaver
I think she is balanced overall, the gunplay feels tight and snappy. Very satisfying. Once people learn her movement patterns, she will be shot down more easily, the community needs to learn her character silhouette and her movement/abilities before they can actually start destroying her.
agreed, finally a balanced character
overall she's the only balanced character in overwatch right now, maybe a slight buff to her healing, not a massive one like add another 5-10 hp into her burst heals
@@Kittatomo i think she feels specially balanced because she has zero self heal, unlike other support heroes
@@Kittatomo i think she feels specially balanced because she has zero self heal, unlike other support heroes
@@Kittatomo nah her healing is plenty. Its honestly a bit on the high side which makes sense because she has to aim it. I think she is pretty good where she is at right now.
The thing is she is very fragile, yeah she has mobility but no self sustain, sombra or any flanker can kill her without a problem
@@jannikhoops4585 shes not like zen, her hitbox is thin and clunky, plus she has speed and flight, the only time she would be a “easy target” is coming from spawn by herself, and even that isn’t gonna be a cakewalk to kill her, in a mid fight she’s not gonna be alone in the backline like Ana, she’ll be in the middle of her team flying and double jumping, so I don’t think she’s a flankers paradise target tbh.
Yea I don't get it honestly. Bap is super strong in terms of damage AND has sustain along with some movement. Meanwhile Juno just has movement. Which isn't even as good as Lucio movement. They need to buff her damage output.
That would only be true if the person playing her is stupid enough to be alone in the back line which she isn’t built for
@@sycom- you are wrong. In high elo you will lose like 90% of your duells with dps if u don't get pocketed. She is the most diveable support, even more diveable than ana, has no ability to get away from tracer/genji/echo/pharah/sombra - she is a free pick tbh. Her mobility needs a buff if they want her to be viable
@@SherryDC she’s been out for 1 day, so nobody knows how weak she actually is, I also never said she’d win every duel, but her other utility far outweighs the lack of dps, if she could duel dps, then she’d be so overpowered it isn’t even funny. It’s a whole different playstyle that people have to adjust to.
Hot take, I think her kit embodies what supports should be as a baseline.
Low burst kill potential but good steady supplementary damage in fights, no invulns to deny kills but great mobility options to escape, and a non intrusive team utility skill that teammates have a choice of when to take(unlike grip)
Instead of being glorified DPSes that have the advantage in 1v1 duels like Bap, she feels like what you’d expect a support to be.
True but unless they nerf the other supports she's gonna be bad in comparison
@@Reezy911 but when jay played her he had similar healing to the mercy just added 26 kills to itt even got to killer
@Bad3abdul But that's only because he's in quickplay where he was the best player in the lobby. In competitive I doubt she'll be pulling numbers like that
@@Reezy911 wasn't the first game competitive
@@Bad3abdul No juno is disabled in comp till she's fully released next season
lol, today she needs a buff. When she goes live and receives that buff, “WhAt Is BlIzZaRd DoInG!?”
yep
Nahhh no buff. And actual skill based support. Like truly skill based! I’m enjoying her!!
The only thing that's off is probably the auto heal thjng but then again it's not that strong. It's like Ana if she was more mobile and not a sniper
She's bad. Very low damage and healing. VERY. nerf all the other healers then. or buff her. she wont' fit in. She's like mercy, the team needs to be doing well to have any chance but she needs skill so she's almost worse tbh.
@@tyg-zw7nn Agreed, and no one has come to this realization because she's "cute"... its odd, shes very under powered, not even a glass cannon just glass.
@@tyg-zw7nn she’s low damage… FROM far, but if you KNOW how to play with her and get close, she’s great.
She’s meant to be medium range or up close with heals.
She’s the FIRST support that actually has fall off damage with her heals. And she’s just like any other hero. If the team is bad, she can’t just press one button and save the whole team from bad decisions.
I got over 15-20k healing most matches.
She’s a SUPPORT hero. She’s not meant to have high damage or even high as hell healing.
She’s SUPPORT. She supports the team with MOVEMENT.
Just like Sym ACTUALLY used to be support before becoming DPS.
If you use her like a “HEALER”you’re gonna lose, if you use her for MOBILITY which is what her kit is designed for, you’ll do good.
Oh… she’s one of those characters that… hmmm what’s the words I’m looking for… oh yeah.. SKILL based… and she can’t carry a whole team with just one button…” cough Kiri “… “cough Suzu that saves people from making bad choices when diving to far cough” sorry… my throat was dry…😂😂
But you have your opinion and I’ll respect it.
@@WeightsssI think she’s supposed to be high healing and high damage she can pop off with kills or burst teammates to max she’s a lot of fun and fair to play against
I was playing her today and I found that using the orbital torpedos when an enemy is really low almost always got me a kill. When I would get into 1v1s I would shoot them until they were low and then torpedo and it was an instant kill sometimes I got multiple if another enemy was low around the area
You forgot to mention her hiden passive, distracting the enemy team by holding the W key
It is not super effective against straight women so a lot of rng involved.
@@You_are_wrong99Its ok, we have cassidy, sigma, rein, mauga and bap instead ;)
Overwatch has over 40 million players all over the world and a female player base of around 16% (just googled it)
@@Kat-xp8znbap is so hot
She looks like so much fun to play. I am convinced she is going to be my new main the day she drops
She actually feels pretty balanced. I like how she has a ton of utility and her damage is just meh. She actually feels like a solid support. I like how she has sheilds to compensate for the lack of ability to heal herself
The shields feel like self sustain in their own way, she can regenerate so fast I barely have to sit around before I can get back in the fight
I really hope they don’t buff her. I think her mobility alone makes her a really tricky target, and as long as you’re hitting your shots you’re doing decent damage. You can even combo with the homing pulse shots
She doesn't need a buff or nerf imo. She seems to be in a good spot.
her mobility is worse than like half of the support roster wdymmm
Maybe once I learn her movement it won't be so bad to play against, but right now targeting Juno is ridiculous. @@AB-jt4rs
@AB-jt4rs how to tell everyone you're bronze 5 without telling them you're bronze 5
@@Cheshyren Bro if you think her mobility is better than the likes of Lucio or Mercy, you are just plain delusional
I like that you get her speed boost when using the ability and you don’t have to go through the ring. But the cool down should be shorter like 10 secs
They need to name that gun the tickler lol.
Good, as it should be doing that much damage
Seems like shes missing something hey, feels like random abilities over other heroes mashed together
Ohhh wow Juno looks hella fun to play! I'm gonna suck big time as my tracking sucks but damn those abilities look awesome!
Idk who jasmine is but she can NOT stop catching these strays
The takeaway I get from this hero(without playing) is damage is minimal, can’t heal yourself, hero requires good aim to use.
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they need to change the icon the a foot when you get a melee kill
The only thing I hate about her is that she can’t crit that was the first thing I noticed
If she could crit her damage would be way too high. If you connect all your burst on a 250HP target, you kill them in 3 bursts. Now imagine that with crit damage. And if you say then nerf the damage, imagine how bad her damage would be without getting crits. This is the best way for her primary fire to be.
@@Chazza-01 I mean they can just reduce her crit damage at least
lmao she does 84 dmg total per left click, making it a really good base primary fire. heals more than lifeweaver's 80 and ana's 75 too for primary healing.
Add crits and she would consistently 3 shot squishies, making her primary fire way too on par with dps heros.
Bruh, can everyone stop treating this character like a DPS hero 💀 people really wanting to raise her damage, she’s a support.
@@Gunzavageyes a support which does dmg. Not a healer. If you just want to heal, go play lifeweaver where you don’t influence the game at all
Was fun playing with ya thanks for opening it up to viewers!
She Has Crash Bandicoot Sounds
I can see Jay is a Tracer player for how he plays Juno, quite skilled!
I feel that the projectiles for her lock on thing need to move a bit faster they feel slow so it's easy for enemies to dodge around a corner and it takes too long to heal teammates
Only thing i would say to change is to boost her healing a little bit on her to torpedos
And Samito says she's kinda broken.
Almost like a few hours tells us next to nothing and streamers are talking out of their asses (especially those that aren't support mains).
I think she's going to be one of those characters that feels bad in low ranks, but is good in higher ranks. If you use her to coordinate engagements/disengagements with the speed ring through comms, I'm sure she's great. Otherwise, she seems a bit weak.
Yeah, but he kinda needs every hero to be broken so that 5v5 just seems impossible to even design around. He was good points, but his bias makes his other points hard to know
@@MasterMemohe literally says that he think she’s fine. Even says that she’s the best design since Ana. He actually likes her and only stated they should tweak the torpedos on enemies.
So if whoever Samito is says she's broken, but if any other streamer says she needs a buff, it's false?
samito thinks she's in a great spot besides her secondary fire needing a second look + slightly tuned down healing numbers. which i feel is a sober take
Between most her health being shields and the support passive, I think her escape abilities make up for her not having a non-ult self heal. I also like her gun the way it is, supports shouldn't be more powerful than dps, though I don't like having healing falloff on her gun.
The only change I’d make is a minor increase to her projectiles. Especially on console i can easily miss allies when healing. Other than that, i think she’s ready
I feel like her shift could give a small burst heal to herself why else does it have a health icon smh
1:20 that's if they even release skins for her, unlike with venture
the bully was to funny😂😂😂😂😂
She needs one tiny buff since she can’t heal herself like make it if your teammates are full hp then is shoots past teammates and hits enemies that are behind the teammate
Edit was clarifying the people
I think no self heal is deliberate: they gave her shield hp like zen to heal really quickly when not damaged for a little while.
not the jasmine bullying
Juno was extremely fun to play. She'll probably be my new main when she's released.
yea for about 2 weeks then its back to old charactere
I'm still waiting for a healer with a shotgun.
I do not see a single reason to play her in comp if she releases like this if you actually want to rank up when you can just go baptiste who does significantly more damage and more importantly, has much higher kill potential and has much better survivability. Also both can go shoot from the same angles due to their jumps where Juno just gives a meh speed boost when you can just play Lucio
You know at first I thought she needed buff but I think she’s actually perfectly fine you have to actually try and I’m enjoying that it makes her fun and her movement is AMAZING
I found eliminating her with doom to be quite trivial if you land the punch to start off. Though i suppose it also requires practiced hands to play Juno well enough as the players ive seen didnt do much.
my only misgivings about the character is that she does NOTHING to armour, legit like 30 damage per burst; and it takes 6 or 7 bursts to just get a reinharts armour down. I know she isnt supposed to do that, and that isnt a supports job; but she feels far more vulnerable than other supports. Also, she feels horrible against moira, unless you hit EVERY SINGLE bullet, you can't outdamage her life steal, and thats without her using orb either. it should be slightly higher, not too much, but enough to where she has the ability to outplay people if the player is skilled enough.
I love this character so much. Haven’t had this much fun in a while. (but man these queue times)
Go echo, copy. Win
The only problem I have with juno is that if she wants to use her missiles for offensive purposes she puts herself in a vulnerable position and can do anything but move side to side maybe have the missiles lock on faster and have it so she can shoot use ability etc but have a three second timer and anyone in her los gets hit but probably lower the damage for offensive missiles
i dont think the damage is bad but the fact it is split across a 12 bullet burst, but the hitscan and flight should more than make up for that
Pretty sure she’s projectile but she might as well be hitscan with her bullet speed
what an amazing concept for a character smash 5 preexisting hero's together and make it a waifu, amazing game design!
One thing iv notice with her watching streams, she’s being used as helping DPSing more then any healers
So got me thinking, what if she’s just another DPS hero but that can heal a little? Ya u need one HEAVY healer but, she could chnage the meta with being extra DPSing
Or I’m completely wrong lol
she can totally replace lucio in a comp as an off healer and a pseduo main healer, since her main projectile damages and heals for 84 total. Her right click damages for 75 and heals 75 + 60 overtime
she can't 3 tap heros like illari and kirko (no headshot multiplier) unless in ultimate
her mobility is great to evade flankers and dealing 84 per burst makes her good at dueling them.
Na you’re right, I’ve seen 3 streamers already using this hero for primarily DPS. Juno is definitely more of a complex character, so for lower ranks, she’ll definitely be used for DPS
@@Gunzavagehonestly thats a player problem rather than a character problem
@@thatmemeguy2520 I never said it was a character problem. I clearly stated lower rank players will more likely use this hero for dps than support, that’s it.
@@Gunzavage im talking about the overall playerbase on how its a player problem
Feel that. I think they're Balanced right out the gate, if anything a small buff.
The amount of ph content no pun intended coming
The only buffs I think there should be are being able to shoot while charging right click and maybe a boost to jump in addition to the speed for the ring
thinking she felt clunky in training and you make her look tons of fun and strong
I think they’ll reduce her e and missile cooldowns by 1.5-2 seconds
They have got to buff mercy’s healing
In all fairness to the complainers, she feels like the third most helpless support if she gets isolated and singled out in a 1v1 by other dps and healers. Like mercy and Lifeweaver are the only 2 who feel more helpless when caught alone. All the other healers either have really good damage to win a 1v1 or escape abilities. She has movement but she doesn’t really escape a bad situation that easy. It’s also really not satisfying being unable to do headshot damage.
junos speed boost can stack with lucio, she isnt gonna replace him
first time wanting to play anyone other than ana since she came out
Jay trying to make her a dps 😭😭😭😭
I just think they need to make her movement ability (the glide boost) feel like a little more fluid and she will be great, shes already super fun though
On console with no aim assist on allies it’s kinda hard to heal…if they could make her like Ana and have a radius of healing it would be nice 🤷🏾♂️
I think she is pretty balanced mabey some healing buffs and quickened lock on with secondary fire but other then that i enjoy her
Even if they buff her speed ring it wouldn’t make Lucio useless because both speed boosts stack so if anything it would make Lucio MORE useful since u could run hyper rush comps
The only buff she needs is a healing buff either being able to shoot while charging up her torpedos, or increasing the heal over time after the torpedos has hit her allies, either with more heals OR with faster and shorter heal over time
Ignore what I said about heal, it's really good either way. It can't negate burst, but she wasn't meant to, like Illari main heal for example. Her falloff heal can maybe be lengthened, but honestly she's pretty good either way
I can see Juno being Jay’s new main to be honest. High mobility like Tracer
Jay on support is a violation
She doesnt need a buff, shes one of those characters that would be broken just from too many micro buffs
Do juno mythbusters; Can genji reflect the auto aim to his teamates?
Ngl, I love this new character, one of the best characters they've ever comenout with and I honestly don't think she needs any changes either way, at least for now
the gun does feel a little weak so i think they should get rid of the damage falloff
EDIT:tho the ring does feel a little long interms of cooldown
Love hearing the Smash Bros music
They should shorten the cd of right click per enemy/ally locked by it
Hard to say with him against random rank viewers, but she seems pretty well balanced (and quite fun).. maybe slight tweaking, though definitely doesn't need a buff
the only thing I can see them doing is making it to where cancelling right click doesn’t put it on cd and maybe adding 1-2 more bullets per burst
If you don't lock onto anyone, the cooldown is 5 seconds I believe. I think that is fair
@@Chazza-01 that really only for when you accidentally click on the ability, almost always there will be someone to lock on
I thought I was trippin at first but I hear smash bros music lol
Lets not buff her why is everyone obsessed with the idea that heroes have to be op and then complain that theyre too op
Look this may sound broken but what if the enemy team gets slowed when they go threw the speed ring which Lucio would be a good counter to Juno which he can speed his team up if they go through a speed ring
So tell me Blizzard, isn't Juno's ult basically a better transcendence? If you look at the healing you basically become unkillable PLUS you have a damage boost better than Mercy's?
0:03 " Let's go lock it, I swear to god"..."18 MINUTES!!!!"
Jay don't swear anymore
My issue is I cannot deal with a tracer or sombra. Like I can't really do anything with tracer harasses me and if I try to run away with hyper ring and shift I still get stomped 😭😭 I do try to stay by my team but its frustrating facing good tracers
They need to make her right click more noticeable when it's on allies/enemies
bro playing reinhard with lucio AND juno is so fucking fun hahahah
For a new hero she looks pretty balanced imo
She shoots about the same dmg/heal as Ana but slower, like healing with Bap with his primary but bigger projectile
I think give her a 1.5x hs multiplier and she's good to go
She’s beasty she definitely doesn’t need a buff
The only “prob” I see with her is, she can’t heal herself
That's definitely on purpose, her kit trades self heal options for insane mobility and team play; she has shield hp like zen, so she can regen really quickly after winning a flanker duel or gets to safety.
@@DoingNothingKing Juno’s mobility is already too much, making her able to heal herself would just be OP.
I seriously think Juno is already in a good spot. Her damage is decent. You just gotta hit your shots.
in think you can just get rid of the e tbh but maybe buff the ultimate itsself or its charge instead
It will be fun when they make a new ball but I don't know how to make him better
Juno is such a good mobility character but I think they should nerf her dmg and give her crit also kiriko ult with juno ult is crazy try it out
she should have a self healing ability imo
think they need to reduce her ult charge a bit, her ult is really fucking strong and she gets it so fast
I think if she does need a buff, just make her different from ana with the fact that she can shoot enemies through allies and do both damage and reduced healing
No but make it if they are full hp then is shoots past teammates and hits enemies that are behind the teammate
I knew this was going to happen. They gave her too many abilities and because of that each of her abilities isn't strong enough. If they make her stronger she will be op probably
I think its enough to add headshot damage and slightly reduce torpedoes cooldown
@@Fannge no, she’s not a dps
Good job on the video Jay
Jasmine did not deserve that 😭
bro that support is perfect balanced its a support not damge
Finally ah support dat deserves my touch 👏
Her ULT kinda feels it has a to short duration
Theyre DEFINITELY gonna neef her ult charge and orbital healing
I'm a support player and I think she perfectly balanced
So am I the only one that hears the Smash music😭