The only thing I kept thinking of is the scene in the simpsons movie where a guy is dumping a body and tells the cop he’s disposing of yard trimmings. Another cop points out that it was a body and head cop goes “yeah I thought so too but then he said yard trimmings, gotta listen!” And just... wow.
* thirty six bodies being found in the exact same place. Same gender, same hair color, same race, same sexuality, same ethnicity * Police: nothing suspicious here.
honestly i cant believe those cops.. like your gonna bring money into this!? someone literally died and its your job to find out how. sorry this comment is a year late
@@eveissoscared9113 NO. THEY'RE JUST FUCKING LAZY AS HELL. it makes me so mad, they CHOSE to be cops and help people and they won't just because they're lazy or homophobic
The police should have been charged since their incompetence is what let this killer run rampant. These men didn't have to die if the police did their damn job.
The families have taken them to court and they have been charged at least £200,000 for missed opportunities aka the fact they didn't do jackshit because they homophobic
Crazy how John barely knew Gabriel but was such a good friend to him and didn't brush off the weirdness surrounding his death just because he didn't know him like that. Gives you faith in humanity.
@zotha I am not LGBT, but I stand for their rights all the way. The police ARE prejudiced, and it is very, very wrong. It needs to be rooted out and eradicated. Once and for all.
Yea that shocked me. I’m pretty sure they do autopsy’s even if it’s not a murder, but if the family requests it. Well they should. Apparently this police department doesn’t give a fuuuuuuuuck
She said some of the worst and I was like "I don't Think there could be any worse cops then the ones in Junko futara Case" But they were, they were so much worse.
The police sound like a hormonal teen who’s mom told them to do their chores. “UGHHH FINE. I’ll do the stupid autopsy!” “OMG HE SAID HE DIDN’T DO IT SO HE DIDN’T” “JESUS MOM GET OFF MY CASE I DON’T WANNA TEST FOR DNA!” “UGHHHH STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO!”
Policeman 1: Lads, there’s been a murder. Policeman 2: Who was killed? Policeman 1: 4 gay men Policeman 2: Wait what? Policeman 1: I said 4 gay men. Policeman 2: *Did you just say gay?* Policeman 1: Yes. Policeman 2: What’s the evidence? Policeman 1: All killed near the same location, bruises on body, suspicious note near one of them- Policeman 2: *Nah. Doesn’t seem suspicious enough.*
Dora would have been faster at solving this case Can you see the murder weapon? ......................................... Good job! The unused syringe!
@@itsallforpele Yeah, the police seemed to be SUPER anti LGBTQ+, I really hated that because I'm bisexual. I also love your profile pic! Miu Iruma right?
The fact that John and Gabriel hadn't known each other long, but they had built a good enough friendship that John was unwilling to just let his death go on unexplained is amazing. Like, I've known my best friend for going on 8 years now, and I am not sure I would even know where to begin other than bugging the shit out of the police until I annoyed them into checking it out more.
LOL that’s exactly what I thought when I heard that too! That line seems like something you would joke about, that’s how bad it was at not being suspicious
Those innocent victims blood are on those polices hands. Homophobia played a massive part in this case because the evidence was sky high, absolutely disgusting, may those poor beautiful men find peace ❤️
It’s clear that the police tossed this case aside because the victims were gay. The way they were found (SAME FREAKING LOCATION) should have sounded the alarms. That police force is a disgrace and I want those families to be compensated greatly for their emotional distress.
Thingamabob GK I know, i live in Barking and Dagenham, i used to live in barking until i moved to Dagenham. The police here don’t do much.. they’re just fricking annoying
Find a dead girl dead with bruises with GHB in her system? Murder and date rape. Find a dead gay man with bruises with GHB in his system? He must have been a druggie and accidentally overdosed.
As an ex addict, i tried GHB and the difference between a dose where you're having fun (feels like alcohol and molly together imo) and the dose where you're passed out can be so so small, it's very dangerous
The fact that about 60% of the police work was done by John and the Sisters, at their own home with next to no help, just goes to show how infuriatingly incompetent these cops are
More like 95% in my opinion the rest goes to forensics only cause forensics ( not the dr’s but the actual science itself)and maybe the cop who agreed to look at the other block although not even really that cause it was the sisters the cop only used his badge to get access to it and .1 % is to the rest of the police station and that’s only cause they handcuffed dude.
I think it's only fair to blame the cuts that forces have to deal with not the personnel because finance massively limits the procedures they are told they can implement
This hurts me so much as the gay daughter of a cop, The way the police handled this case is an appalling example of systematic homophobia. If I would be so hurt if I ever found out my dad treated a case like this.
THANK YOU. This is the exact term I was scrolling the comments for. That is exactly what it was/still is in some cases, systematic or institutional homophobia.
BOY, THIS MAKES ME MAD. Police homophobia used to be so common, I can't believe this case was so recent. I had a similar event happen. (With officials being homophobic.) I was bullied really badly in 7th grade for being lesbian. And one day in the gym locker room, a few girls assaulted me, breaking 2 ribs. They said that they felt like I was staring at them, or going to rape them. I told school officials what happened and they asked what I did to provoke it, and said it seemed like normal bullying. And that if I didn't want to be hurt I should be normal. But as soon as I told the police they took action. Some people let their homophobia prevent them from being a decent human being. This case is definitely an extreme of that. Just glad the murderer was caught.
@@mollyw9075 Some would but okay. Glad to know you speak for all people. I lived in a veeerrrryyy small town. Teachers were not exempt from being ignorant.
Wow so it was ‘too expensive’ for the police to do THEIR job!! Fucking unbeliveable! These kinds people should not be part of the police force if they’re not willing to help!
He was SOOOOO TERRIBLE at covering up his crimes. Like LITERALLY if ONE of the murders had been investigated just even scratched the surface of investigation, they could've found who he was
The homophobia was what I immediately thought was happening when you were telling the case. That is so horrible those police officers should never have jobs ever again.
According to Google, the police officers involved in this case were *not* disciplined for their (lack of) investigation of the murders. Sadly not very shocking
This doesn't surprise me that nothing was done about it hut its disgusting. They should have been sacked especially the ones who didn't go to their higher ups with information given to them etc. Especially those also who didn't check the sheet or the mobile phones of the victims. The handnwritingnthingnalso really angered me.! As a UK citizen though I didn't expect anything less than them getting away with it all xxxzx
I hope a serial killer out there kills police men who refuse to do their Jobs so arrogantly when theirs clear injustice because you know if they won't do anything out of the kindness of their heart or as part of their job they will sure as hell do it so they're not killed
@@hollyrylatt-price2485 Perhpas the serial killer is friends with one of, or multiple officers. This is the only explanation why the police are refusing to investigate.
This case has INFURIATES me like no other. The police force has a massive history with homophobia and it seems like those kinds of ideals haven't changed. They don't care about LGBTQ deaths most of the time. They didn't care to look into it even though there was so much evidence that foul play was involved and the deaths were connected - they knew all of this, but it would just be too much of a hassle and money to investigate further because the victims were gay. It goes even deeper than just surface level homophobia because a lot of the time when people can seem very accepting and progressive, there's a subconscious attitude towards LGBTQ folk that our "lifestyles" are the reason that harm comes to us. Essentially sort of victim blaming. It's an idea that these deaths, rape, abuse etc. are something we bring upon ourselves because gay people go to these chemsex parties, do sex work/escorting and hook up with strangers online. The fact that our sexuality is already seen as morally reprehensible to these people means that often our deaths are overlooked, seen as our fault or even in some cases thought as something that we deserve. It makes me so terribly sad and very very angry
@@mwoodbridge63 I understand that is the case for a lot of police forces. I'm sure not EVERYONE on your force is openly homophobic but sorry to say, wearing lanyards and putting a few rainbows about doesn't mean that the attitudes on a more institutional level disappear. Like I was saying they can appear to be progressive on the outside but when it comes to doing actual police work to save LGBTQ people's lives, a lot of the time they just don't give a shit about us. Especially gay men and trans women in particular who are more vulnerable.
Yea. If this was a man murdering a bunch of young women, there'd be at least like 30 officers working on it 24/7, talking about how they were just "so young and vulnerable" all over the news on a daily basis.
This seems extremely strange to me: is it common to rule one's death as "unexplained" and not do an autopsy on the body because it "doesn't seem suspicious"?? I've never heard of this before
"Didn't seem suspicious" Really? I think a dead body found partially unclothed against a wall should seem suspicious. Even if it didn't seem suspicious I think someone found dead should be given a proper autopsy or a bit of a look in at their case. The police work, in this case, is horrendous. Edit: I'm now halfway through the video and OMG these police are so irresponsible! He was found on a blue sheet with bruising on his torso and underarms, like, come on. How is that not suspicious?!?!?!?!??! WTF
The killer's fake name on grindr "John Locke" was an English philosopher who essentially believed that selfishness was a good quality. That it was allowed by human nature.
I love how blunt you are in your opinions & see them as FACTS ! I’m a gay man myself & I have grindr. So seeing you did a story about this low key excite me. Sadly this does happen in my community. I don’t do drugs or drink myself. But I see guys on Grindr looking for that stuff . They call it p&p or parTy. It pisses me off that some guys glorify it. The whole police involved in this was absolute trash
My heart is completely shattered by this case, and the police negligence. One of those boys could've been my son. I can't imagine how their families feel. RIP sweet angels
Eleanor Neale, quality is always appreciated over quantity. Your mental health and physical well-being is also valued over your product output. Please, don’t stress about it. Your subscribers love you for you.
Reminds me of the serial killer who was caught recently in Toronto. Everyone was sure that there was someone preying on gay men in the community but the police refused to look into it for a long time. Lots of men lost their lives and the community there was scared for one another for a long time.
Yessss I live about 30 mins from Toronto. When the police were at his house to arrest him; they found him in the process of torturing a man, who is still alive. The killer was an outdoor landscaper and lots of the body parts were found in flower pots.
I've found that when I'm distracted by my drawing, I can watch your videos without getting nightmares after. Now I've made a massive sketch that I'm colouring.
I feel really upset about the way police just ingnored the victims because of their sexuality. They were young men with a whole life in front of them, I'm really sorry for them and their beloved ones.
I hope every detective assigned to this case was fired/demoted whatever. Truthfully, they should be charged with obstructing themselves when they do shit like that.
me: angry police: homophobic victims: in a better place families: better than police video: no scary music murderer: I hope he is conscious in his grave forever
@tocka I mean... everyone dies eventually, somehow. Death is something cops see all the time. But these cops were willfully ignorant as these deaths were so incredibly suspicious.
Eight minutes into the video but I feel so much for John, he didn't know Gabriel long but the fact that he cared so much about him and wanted to figure out what actually happened....ugh I feel like crying PS: love you Eleanor, this video was worth the wait, thanks for working so hard to give us all the information
Its so frustrating that he wasn't caught in the very first murder. He barely even tried to cover his tracks and if any forensics had been done it would have been solved before anyone else had to die.
I think the worst part of this is how the police reacted. Their blatant homophobia and dismissive attitude towards these murders because the people were LGBT+ is shocking 😪
I think if it had been straight laced women the cops would have worked so much harder than they did. If it had been female sex workers though, they probably would have been pretty lazy still. It's sad that some people think one life has more value than another.
You are my all time favorite true crime youtuber. I've watched a few of pretty much every one on here and I just keep coming back! I'm watching them out of order but you've been great from the very beginning. Lots of love xx
The police work in this case annoys me so much. They didn't even care. Everything was suspicious, all the deaths and evidence. They had it all there within the palm of their hand but they just didn't want to investigate it and deliberately ruled it all as accidental without making sure. Annoys me so much. Imagine how the families must have felt knowing that the police cared so little about finding out what had happened to them and they literally had to force them to finally do their jobs. Why did they even go into the police if they didnt want to do their jobs?
_"dont blame the guy i was with last night"_
police: yeah ok. were done here lads
"Yeah, he wrote the note. It's his handwriting."
Emma ‘’ are you Irish
Sisters: "Can you look into it more?!"
Police: "As my old man used to say, 'Don't ask useless questions', because what do you think we are? POLICE??"
'Handwriting doesn't match'
Police: doesn't matter it's unknown
'body has bruises'
Police: definitely not a murder it's unknown
The only thing I kept thinking of is the scene in the simpsons movie where a guy is dumping a body and tells the cop he’s disposing of yard trimmings. Another cop points out that it was a body and head cop goes “yeah I thought so too but then he said yard trimmings, gotta listen!” And just... wow.
* thirty six bodies being found in the exact same place. Same gender, same hair color, same race, same sexuality, same ethnicity *
Police: nothing suspicious here.
Police: "looks like an unknown virus is solely targeting young, gay men with brown hair who frequent a specific corner of this one cemetery in town"
Police: Looks like a virus to me, lets pack it up, boys.
police: THEY’RE GAY? MUST BE DRUGS!
@@kingayy9267 Lol back when this was a funny "non-possible" joke
*having not finished the video * 👀 /thirty six/
blue sheet: HAS LITERAL ACTUAL EVIDENCE TO SOLVE THE WHOLE CASE
police: haha no it costs money
basically
Yeah, also police: "we aren't paid enough!!! Give us more moneyyyy, we deserve it!"
Yes but that money isn’t taken from their salary right ?
honestly i cant believe those cops.. like your gonna bring money into this!? someone literally died and its your job to find out how. sorry this comment is a year late
@@eveissoscared9113 NO. THEY'RE JUST FUCKING LAZY AS HELL. it makes me so mad, they CHOSE to be cops and help people and they won't just because they're lazy or homophobic
The suicide note: “totally don’t blame this random guy that I just happened to be with right before I randomly died”
Police: “seems legit”
Honestly the weirdest part of the story
Cop: says right here “definitely DO NOT blame that guy” so I didn’t 🤷🏼♂️
please ikr
police: ok understandable have a nice day
Thatd be my last thoughts in a suicide note
The police should have been charged since their incompetence is what let this killer run rampant. These men didn't have to die if the police did their damn job.
The families have taken them to court and they have been charged at least £200,000 for missed opportunities aka the fact they didn't do jackshit because they homophobic
Right if you are not good at your job dont be a police rather be a philosopher instead , too much uselness
acab 1312
similar to jeffery dahmer and andrew cunanan, the police just don’t care enough if the victims are gay
Crazy how John barely knew Gabriel but was such a good friend to him and didn't brush off the weirdness surrounding his death just because he didn't know him like that. Gives you faith in humanity.
And then you promptly lose that faith with the police.
pluubooruu omg IKR
Right??♡
He knew even in 2016, homophobia is still endemic in UK police and they routinely ignore LGBTQIA+ victims.
@zotha I am not LGBT, but I stand for their rights all the way. The police ARE prejudiced, and it is very, very wrong. It needs to be rooted out and eradicated. Once and for all.
Body: sawn in half
Police : DEATH IS UNKNOWN no need to do an autopsy
Kayy police: he died of natural causes so sorry :((
Hmmm must’ve been a heart attack sorry
the toes hand them over nah it was definitely a seizure
Autopsy report: -looks over body- hmmm looks like a drowning.
police: seems like he choked, let's pack it up, boys
"You're gonna get mad at the police in this case." I did as soon as they decided it would be a waste of time for an autopsy
Yea that shocked me. I’m pretty sure they do autopsy’s even if it’s not a murder, but if the family requests it. Well they should. Apparently this police department doesn’t give a fuuuuuuuuck
@@foximoxi8533 I find it very homophobic and odd
@@six2071 Absolutely. It’s so disappointing how awful some cops can be.
Yeah that was pretty f*cked up
She said some of the worst and I was like "I don't Think there could be any worse cops then the ones in Junko futara Case" But they were, they were so much worse.
If I was a serial killer these are the police that I'd want on my case
Samantha Muny tbh 😂
Samantha Muny lmfaoo ikr😂
Come to my town, they let a hit man/potential serial killer run rampant for a few days and it wasn't even them who figured out where dude was 😂
Mood
Honestly same
RIP Everybody who got murdered
Cause of death: Incompetent police
Cause of the first death: A madman
Other deaths: Incompetent police
lmao i’m from the area all of this happened 😳 welcome to barking and dagenham
Homophobia isn't spelled incompetent, it's spelled intentional neglect
@@vikia139 It's more like welcome to the UK in general...
Cause of death: homophobic police
Killer:”it’s not me 👀👀”
Police”sounds like a solid alibi to me! Come on champ we’ll buy you a drink!”
Mchoe Art haha
😂😂 fr fr
Killer: It wasn't me!
Police: And what proof do you have against that?
Killer: I don't have any but I swear that it wasnt me.
Police: sEeMs LeGiT!
Killer: on all levels except physical I’m not the murderer
Police: hmmm seems promising let’s get you out of these handcuffs
@@anndashasimmons7537 this is too good for me to not compliment you on lmao !!!
The police sound like a hormonal teen who’s mom told them to do their chores.
“UGHHH FINE. I’ll do the stupid autopsy!”
“OMG HE SAID HE DIDN’T DO IT SO HE DIDN’T”
“JESUS MOM GET OFF MY CASE I DON’T WANNA TEST FOR DNA!”
“UGHHHH STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO!”
💯
Police: *sees a gay man being stabbed on CCTV camera*
Police: lol well we cant see his face sooo
LMAOAOAOAOAOAO NO THIS TOOK ME OUT💀💀
lol ig we'll just have to ignore it i mean we cant see his face like idk lol
I am pleased to tell you I was the 666th like.
i unliked after i saw 666
@@QTY8OU thank you ✌
Policeman 1: Lads, there’s been a murder.
Policeman 2: Who was killed?
Policeman 1: 4 gay men
Policeman 2: Wait what?
Policeman 1: I said 4 gay men.
Policeman 2: *Did you just say gay?*
Policeman 1: Yes.
Policeman 2: What’s the evidence?
Policeman 1: All killed near the same location, bruises on body, suspicious note near one of them-
Policeman 2: *Nah. Doesn’t seem suspicious enough.*
Exactly mate
Me: YOU FRICKING IDIOTS
Its sad really because its more than likely because they were gay that they were all dismissed.
@@TheWitchHazel2001 That's what I was thinking throughout this entire case😕
@@sunnyboi1085
Murderer: *kills all their victims in the same location, gave one body bruises and put a note*
Police: _there's no evidence._
Dora would have been faster at solving this case
Can you see the murder weapon?
.........................................
Good job! The unused syringe!
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lol 😂😄😊😆😅
Name buddies Lex?
Was it them who obviously killed this guy I don’t know will you help me?
The answer is yes
@@toastbread4166 hola mi amigo
It definitely sounds like homophobia. That's horrendous and heartbreaking. Those poor young men didn't get the care they should have!
👎
@@lastminutewonder9602 ?
He was gay tho probably internalized homophobia.
@@AbianahTheGeminii think they’re referring to homophobia from the police xx
John is such a good friend, he was so determined to find out who killed his friend
He wasn't even a police officer and he did much more than those horrible cops, the sisters were also amazing on this case
@@itsallforpele Yeah, the police seemed to be SUPER anti LGBTQ+, I really hated that because I'm bisexual.
I also love your profile pic! Miu Iruma right?
@@reikosachiko9230 Yup, it's Miu Iruma and I'm also bi :)
@@itsallforpele Cool!
Black Rose yes god bless John
"By the way please do not blame the guy I was with last night"
OH OK
cloboclimpinwats how the police didn’t pick up on that I will never know, like that’s a huge lead. It’s so sad how badly handled these cases were....
sounds legit
Oh yeah yeah sounds legit....
cloboclimpinwats sounds legit
The most suspicious thing and police didn’t give a shit.
The fact that John and Gabriel hadn't known each other long, but they had built a good enough friendship that John was unwilling to just let his death go on unexplained is amazing. Like, I've known my best friend for going on 8 years now, and I am not sure I would even know where to begin other than bugging the shit out of the police until I annoyed them into checking it out more.
Yeah we all need friends like John!
John's a good dude
I love John he good boi
@@hahaha7886 True says a lot bout him :)
I've known my best friend for almost five years and I also wouldn't know where to begin.
I love that John and the sisters were so determined to solve their loved ones cases even when the police wouldn't.
"nah lads, that's not murder that's just how gay people be"
-the police in this case
Lmao yeahh
LOL
OMFG LOL
more like let them die
they were anti lgbt thats what they wanted
loool
Take a shot every time the police fail at their job in this case.
I dont wanna die thanks
I’m drunk now
I'm dying of alcohol poisoning at this very moment
Fuck you’d be drunk
I just died from the amount of alcohol flowing through my veins
Defo Gabriel- “I pinky promise that it wasn’t the guy I slept with.”
Police-“Seems legit, let’s pack up boys.”
Some people are honestly stupid 🤦♀️
Lol, no kidding. Although I don't think this was stupidity, I believe they didn't want to get involved with the gay community,Or maybe worse..
LOL that’s exactly what I thought when I heard that too! That line seems like something you would joke about, that’s how bad it was at not being suspicious
im ur 1k !
Yeah and I oop sksksksksk
I dont think they had a lot to pack up xD
Those innocent victims blood are on those polices hands. Homophobia played a massive part in this case because the evidence was sky high, absolutely disgusting, may those poor beautiful men find peace ❤️
It’s clear that the police tossed this case aside because the victims were gay. The way they were found (SAME FREAKING LOCATION) should have sounded the alarms. That police force is a disgrace and I want those families to be compensated greatly for their emotional distress.
Thingamabob GK I know, i live in Barking and Dagenham, i used to live in barking until i moved to Dagenham. The police here don’t do much.. they’re just fricking annoying
I dont think the reason was them being gay just shitty police
Find a dead girl dead with bruises with GHB in her system? Murder and date rape. Find a dead gay man with bruises with GHB in his system? He must have been a druggie and accidentally overdosed.
mhm because the first thing that someone says to police is that they're gay lmao
@@LizardlovesMingi lmfao the audacity you have to reply to several comments pointing out the homophobia,,,
Police-“passed away”
Me-“you mean murdered”
Courtney Kempster they still passed away
As an ex addict, i tried GHB and the difference between a dose where you're having fun (feels like alcohol and molly together imo) and the dose where you're passed out can be so so small, it's very dangerous
The police work in this case enrages me so much
I'd say its homophobia
@@kaylagirl1611 i hate it, but i have to say the same. It fucking sucks. Either that, or they knew about the parties, and someone close was involved.
Same. These men and their families deserved so much more respect.
Literally! It was absolutely diabolical.
I remember the aftermath. The police talked the community after all this. It was disgusting
The fact that about 60% of the police work was done by John and the Sisters, at their own home with next to no help, just goes to show how infuriatingly incompetent these cops are
Or even how smart his sisters were... maybe they need to take the cops jobs! Because they are clearly as you say more competent
More like 70-80%
Or maybe the cops were corrupt.
More like 95% in my opinion the rest goes to forensics only cause forensics ( not the dr’s but the actual science itself)and maybe the cop who agreed to look at the other block although not even really that cause it was the sisters the cop only used his badge to get access to it and .1 % is to the rest of the police station and that’s only cause they handcuffed dude.
The cops weren't incompetent, they were homophobic.
The sisters: So, did you find the murderer?
Police: *sweating profusely*
police: chilling, eating donuts
Police: *eyeroll* "Here we go again..."
They'd have to care to sweat 🙄
@@jilysmiles3320 true 🤔
Things to never have/be:
• a zest for life
• life of the party
• visible happiness
• infectious smiles
• extroversion
The police in this case are unbelievable what’re they getting paid for?
Being reyt arseholes
Looking after the criminals eu made us take in
being homophobic
Reporting people to be dead. clearly it’s the only thing they are good for lmao
I think it's only fair to blame the cuts that forces have to deal with not the personnel because finance massively limits the procedures they are told they can implement
If you took a shot every time the police showed that they didn't care, you'd have alcohol poisoning. Absolutely appalling
Aelin Cat you’d be fukin dead
@@enviisyk and i bet the police wouldn't care lmao
the rampant homophobia throughout this entire case.. it's infuriating and heartbreaking.
“Don’t blame the guy I slept with last night.”
The Police: “Alright! We won’t even investigate him at all! :D”
‘Don’t blame the man I was with last night’
YEAH THAT SEEMS LEGIT COME ON GUYS THATS NOT SHADY AT ALL LETS GO
Nah
Nah dude
Throw everyone who “worked” on this case away
We need to call thanos
Master Dancer!! True dat
They need to go to jail
Can we just take a few moments to appreciate the fact that Eleanor doesn't add creepy music in the background?
(PrAiSe ThE lOrD)
Yes!
Neither jumpscares nor pics without telling us beforehand
she really respects the case rather than sensationalizing it... i love her so much tbh
AND DOESNT GAVE ADs
And tells it like a story which helps my ADD brain concentrate🥲
Next time someone complains that there isn't a straight pride...
let me grab my death note 📓🖋
I remember that, straight people are not oppressed, therefore they don't need a pride event.
the Straights (TM) complaining about heterophobia:
Hey, I'm brimming with straight pride. No need for an event or a month to codify it either 😎
This hurts me so much as the gay daughter of a cop, The way the police handled this case is an appalling example of systematic homophobia. If I would be so hurt if I ever found out my dad treated a case like this.
E_the_most_amazing_tree show him this video..I'm dying to hear his response and opinion.
THANK YOU. This is the exact term I was scrolling the comments for. That is exactly what it was/still is in some cases, systematic or institutional homophobia.
off topic but gay daughters of cops squad
Hoppity eyyyyyyyy!!!
If it was a cop who was killed, the police would devote almost all resources into the case.
BOY, THIS MAKES ME MAD. Police homophobia used to be so common, I can't believe this case was so recent. I had a similar event happen. (With officials being homophobic.) I was bullied really badly in 7th grade for being lesbian. And one day in the gym locker room, a few girls assaulted me, breaking 2 ribs. They said that they felt like I was staring at them, or going to rape them. I told school officials what happened and they asked what I did to provoke it, and said it seemed like normal bullying. And that if I didn't want to be hurt I should be normal. But as soon as I told the police they took action. Some people let their homophobia prevent them from being a decent human being. This case is definitely an extreme of that. Just glad the murderer was caught.
r/thathappened
@@mollyw9075 Yes, it did.
I was thinking the exact same thing through the whole video
Daisie Bundy lol teachers wouldn’t call something normal bullying and let them carry on.
@@mollyw9075 Some would but okay. Glad to know you speak for all people. I lived in a veeerrrryyy small town. Teachers were not exempt from being ignorant.
unfortunately, police forces a lot of the time just do not take issues happening in the lgbt community seriously. it's sad and frustrating.
Ikr justise for LGBT
Scooby Doo.......
This wasnt just a LGBTQ issue..
Black people go thru a lot too not just LGBT
Honestly it's so annoying, they should have equal rights
When I was at uni, I actually went to his court hearing randomly for a module I was doing
“they were doing an awful job... in my opinion” 😂
*i ThInK iTs MoRe ThAn YoUr OpInIoN*
"But of course, Barking and Dagenham police did not care-in my opinion"
tHaTs My OpInIoN
Chill she just doesn't want to get into any drama
It was more than an opinion, it is solid evidence. As much evidence as there was in this case. They wouldn't know that, now would they?
Wow so it was ‘too expensive’ for the police to do THEIR job!! Fucking unbeliveable! These kinds people should not be part of the police force if they’re not willing to help!
Ana Shundi FACTSSS
I know right!
You actually dragged the police to filth😂
And it was deserved!!! Laziest police work I've ever heard of 😑
If you ask me, I'd say it's homophobia.
Ana Luisa Barbosa Rodrigues Might’ve been.
Yeah. Also I love your profile picture!
and then she goes “in my opinion” just to make sure she doesn’t get into legal trouble, smart girl!!
The title should be “A Grindr Killer and his helper Serial Killer Homophobic Police Officers”
You didnt even need "professional analysis" to tell that the writings of the card and note are *TOTALLY DIFFERENT*
He was SOOOOO TERRIBLE at covering up his crimes. Like LITERALLY if ONE of the murders had been investigated just even scratched the surface of investigation, they could've found who he was
literally?? like that guy couldn't have been a SERIAL killer had the police done their job. he would have been caught at his first murder.
Kuroha Exactly, who writes a fake suicide note and says “Pls don’t blame the guy I was with last night”💀idiot
This serial killer said “look look look it’s me I killed them” and the police said “yeah Idk”
John seems like such a good guy to care so much about his friends legacy.
there are currently 84 lipsticks on show in the background
Wow i only have like 3
olivia r I don’t have any lipstick let along 84 lmao
Meh Er actually there are 93
@@soweenychoke6880 aha you counted? 😂
I have one red one, one brownish nude and one lip gloss. I’ve officially been flexed on.
The homophobia was what I immediately thought was happening when you were telling the case. That is so horrible those police officers should never have jobs ever again.
i thought this too
A lot of police are homophobic
DROP EVERYTHING ELEANOR NEALE JUST POSTED!!!
Me
this whole case was just "that's the homophobia luv"
According to Google, the police officers involved in this case were *not* disciplined for their (lack of) investigation of the murders. Sadly not very shocking
This doesn't surprise me that nothing was done about it hut its disgusting. They should have been sacked especially the ones who didn't go to their higher ups with information given to them etc. Especially those also who didn't check the sheet or the mobile phones of the victims. The handnwritingnthingnalso really angered me.! As a UK citizen though I didn't expect anything less than them getting away with it all xxxzx
Yep, all murders...
I hope a serial killer out there kills police men who refuse to do their Jobs so arrogantly when theirs clear injustice because you know if they won't do anything out of the kindness of their heart or as part of their job they will sure as hell do it so they're not killed
It sounds like this was a case of police corruption...
@@hollyrylatt-price2485 Perhpas the serial killer is friends with one of, or multiple officers. This is the only explanation why the police are refusing to investigate.
This case has INFURIATES me like no other. The police force has a massive history with homophobia and it seems like those kinds of ideals haven't changed. They don't care about LGBTQ deaths most of the time. They didn't care to look into it even though there was so much evidence that foul play was involved and the deaths were connected - they knew all of this, but it would just be too much of a hassle and money to investigate further because the victims were gay. It goes even deeper than just surface level homophobia because a lot of the time when people can seem very accepting and progressive, there's a subconscious attitude towards LGBTQ folk that our "lifestyles" are the reason that harm comes to us. Essentially sort of victim blaming. It's an idea that these deaths, rape, abuse etc. are something we bring upon ourselves because gay people go to these chemsex parties, do sex work/escorting and hook up with strangers online. The fact that our sexuality is already seen as morally reprehensible to these people means that often our deaths are overlooked, seen as our fault or even in some cases thought as something that we deserve. It makes me so terribly sad and very very angry
i know that my police constabulary are all about LGBTQ, we do Pride events and they wear rainbow lanyards when Pride comes up in our city
@@mwoodbridge63 I understand that is the case for a lot of police forces. I'm sure not EVERYONE on your force is openly homophobic but sorry to say, wearing lanyards and putting a few rainbows about doesn't mean that the attitudes on a more institutional level disappear. Like I was saying they can appear to be progressive on the outside but when it comes to doing actual police work to save LGBTQ people's lives, a lot of the time they just don't give a shit about us. Especially gay men and trans women in particular who are more vulnerable.
Preach
Yea. If this was a man murdering a bunch of young women, there'd be at least like 30 officers working on it 24/7, talking about how they were just "so young and vulnerable" all over the news on a daily basis.
LGBT*
*_I bet it was to expensive for the police to buy a brain._*
Its Kermet ,B*tch your profile picture is a screenshot off of a Symor VR chat video right ? 🤣
Do Hana what’s your point its just a picture it doesent make her stupid
cecilia rolander She never said it was bad like....u good?
@@helenaa9440 Yeah lol I was bored!
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This seems extremely strange to me: is it common to rule one's death as "unexplained" and not do an autopsy on the body because it "doesn't seem suspicious"?? I've never heard of this before
Oh yeaaaa baby a 48 minute video was so worth the wait!!
Getting pissed off more and more every time the police dont do anything :/
The police should have been charge with discrimination
Never,
@@kayakaziloqo7297 I’m not sure I understand what you mean
It was actually a specific chief inspector that was pushing this case back btw, he lost his job for it :p
@@joeanon8641 obstruction of justice should apply to cops too tbh. As a crime that is actually punished.
“‘Well bring this to our higher-ups and get back to you’”
:D
“And they never did”
D:
Two boys found in the exact same position in the exact same place who met with the exact same mean.
CoInCiDeNcE mAn I dOnT kNoW
Coincidence?
I think yEs
I know your disclaimer off by heart 😂👏🏻❤️
MyStory SoFar same lol
Me too🤣if you're a true fan😂
MyStory SoFar same 😂
Sammeeee
Same
"Didn't seem suspicious" Really? I think a dead body found partially unclothed against a wall should seem suspicious. Even if it didn't seem suspicious I think someone found dead should be given a proper autopsy or a bit of a look in at their case. The police work, in this case, is horrendous.
Edit: I'm now halfway through the video and OMG these police are so irresponsible! He was found on a blue sheet with bruising on his torso and underarms, like, come on. How is that not suspicious?!?!?!?!??! WTF
The killer's fake name on grindr "John Locke" was an English philosopher who essentially believed that selfishness was a good quality. That it was allowed by human nature.
I love how blunt you are in your opinions & see them as FACTS ! I’m a gay man myself & I have grindr. So seeing you did a story about this low key excite me. Sadly this does happen in my community. I don’t do drugs or drink myself. But I see guys on Grindr looking for that stuff . They call it p&p or parTy. It pisses me off that some guys glorify it.
The whole police involved in this was absolute trash
Yo. Stay safe, Fab xoxo
Fabian Toxxic omg, If you were named fabio it would be so convenient
Your anger at these "officers" is incredibly palpable through the screen... and I support it fully!
I can't believe this was 2014, the amount of homophobia from the police would make you think we are still in the times where homophobia was the norm
My heart is completely shattered by this case, and the police negligence. One of those boys could've been my son. I can't imagine how their families feel. RIP sweet angels
I’m raging at the police. I can’t even with them. I feel sick because, these are young children who have died and the police don’t give a poop
goodbird Msp i mean they arent children if they are in their 20s but ok
@@mightyreds1892
theyre young men who had so much ahead of them.* is that what you wanted?
Olivia Bell they were under 18
Jessica 6591 if you actually watch the video they werent
skweeko yes
Oh my god this is literally like 5 minutes down the road from me, I’m so confused as to why I’ve never heard of this wtf
I had never heard of the shanda sheer case until Elenor’s video and I pass the House everyday. Don’t feel bad 😂
im local to this too. Yet i don't recall much on the news
Same for me my brothers school was down the road from there
Eleanor Neale, quality is always appreciated over quantity. Your mental health and physical well-being is also valued over your product output. Please, don’t stress about it. Your subscribers love you for you.
I don't know if I've ever yelled at my screen this much.
😂😂same
I think 25% of it was pure laziness and 75% of it was straight up bigotry and homophobia.
Reminds me of the serial killer who was caught recently in Toronto. Everyone was sure that there was someone preying on gay men in the community but the police refused to look into it for a long time. Lots of men lost their lives and the community there was scared for one another for a long time.
Yessss I live about 30 mins from Toronto. When the police were at his house to arrest him; they found him in the process of torturing a man, who is still alive. The killer was an outdoor landscaper and lots of the body parts were found in flower pots.
Early af, you don't need to apologise we will still all support you even if your a little late xx
The clues were just so simple and laid out in front of them. This is horrible.
I've found that when I'm distracted by my drawing, I can watch your videos without getting nightmares after. Now I've made a massive sketch that I'm colouring.
The incompetence and lack of interest by the police PISSES me off. All these boys died under the same circumstances and yet there's no red flag? Jeeso
Gay men: murdered
Policemen: I pretend I do not see
It happens to anyone so it wasn't because he was gay
@@ripper6342 they always look into deaths
@@ripper6342 STOP OMG your a weirdo !!! It’s obviously homophobic
@@livgarland760 I was just saying its not always homophobia your the werid one
@@ripper6342 i mean... the fact that all 5 victims were gay and none of their deaths was investigated is pretty telling
Police: *Finds someone being stabbed*
Police officer: "Hm...what do you think their favourite colour was??"
I don’t wanna seem rude but seeing how much Eleanor has grown from 4/3 yrs ago to now in 22 , I’m just proud
I feel really upset about the way police just ingnored the victims because of their sexuality. They were young men with a whole life in front of them, I'm really sorry for them and their beloved ones.
I need a friend like John, and sisters like Donna and Jen
Sat down to have coffee after walking my pups and opened UA-cam and your video popped up right then and there! Too excited, worth the wait! Love you❣️
Are you stalking me?
I hope every detective assigned to this case was fired/demoted whatever. Truthfully, they should be charged with obstructing themselves when they do shit like that.
me: angry
police: homophobic
victims: in a better place
families: better than police
video: no scary music
murderer: I hope he is conscious in his grave forever
Hotel? Trivago
i know this is a year late but 'conscious in his grave forever'. that. is. powerful. and terrifying to think about
ok but why did i read it as me: homophobic
@@heyheyheywhat5216 it is now that i think about it but he deserves it
I’m so glad you addressed the idea of homophobia! That’s literally all I kept thinking the entire video!
"not suspicious" in what world are these deaths not suspicious?
Alpaxa in what world are DEATHS not suspicious?
@tocka I mean... everyone dies eventually, somehow. Death is something cops see all the time. But these cops were willfully ignorant as these deaths were so incredibly suspicious.
tocka ! When they have an illness or are over the age of 50 and die in their beds, or during the night
@@awoods1039 but if you just randomly drop dead outside wouldn't that be a little us?
tocka ! Yes obviously, that’s why he said “THESE deaths” not just “deaths”
Now this is why we say ACAB ✨
The blatant homophobia and refusal from police to investigate these HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS deaths is disgusting and not even halfway through.
Eight minutes into the video but I feel so much for John, he didn't know Gabriel long but the fact that he cared so much about him and wanted to figure out what actually happened....ugh I feel like crying
PS: love you Eleanor, this video was worth the wait, thanks for working so hard to give us all the information
You do such thorough research and I love your videos!!
Its so frustrating that he wasn't caught in the very first murder. He barely even tried to cover his tracks and if any forensics had been done it would have been solved before anyone else had to die.
I think the worst part of this is how the police reacted. Their blatant homophobia and dismissive attitude towards these murders because the people were LGBT+ is shocking 😪
Yes but mostly being stupid assholes thinking they were overly drug addicts not murdered
Note: don’t blame the guy I was with, he knows nothing’
Police: hm, that’s pretty believable, this man he was with is no suspicious
I think if it had been straight laced women the cops would have worked so much harder than they did. If it had been female sex workers though, they probably would have been pretty lazy still. It's sad that some people think one life has more value than another.
Well I mean I would treat someone differently if they raped a child
You are my all time favorite true crime youtuber. I've watched a few of pretty much every one on here and I just keep coming back! I'm watching them out of order but you've been great from the very beginning. Lots of love xx
The police work in this case annoys me so much. They didn't even care. Everything was suspicious, all the deaths and evidence. They had it all there within the palm of their hand but they just didn't want to investigate it and deliberately ruled it all as accidental without making sure. Annoys me so much. Imagine how the families must have felt knowing that the police cared so little about finding out what had happened to them and they literally had to force them to finally do their jobs. Why did they even go into the police if they didnt want to do their jobs?