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I dunno... I'm not even a big Luka guy but he beat a number 1 seed while hobbled.
He's playing way harder on defence
He makes his teammates better - PJ looks like a different guy, lively looks awesome.
Hes been super impressive
I’ve criticized Luka often for various things but the disrespect lately has been really insane
This is something that has impressed me a lot, the way PJ, Gafford and DLive look isn't just because they are great players, they are and have been improving, but it is also that they often receive great opportunities. Gafford couldn't miss a bucket and almost had the best record ever in the NBA and many of those situations were made through fantastic passes by Luka, together with the pull that LuKai have on the other players.
Seeing Luka and Kyrie step up on defense has been fantastic, both are fantastic players on the offense and now are respectable players on defense. I hope they can keep it up!
He has the James harden affect. I don't think they are the same player like a lot of people say but I do think he has a similar affect on big men. Harden was making capela look like an all star just like Luka has done with Lively and Gafford.
I don’t know how you can watch that series and say he was better defensively, he’s an all time great, but he’s a cone defensively, and it wasn’t even his best series in general, he’s GREAT but I don’t know if this is the time to be saying it…. Yet.
The question isn’t whether or not he’s been impressive, it’s whether this performance enhances your view of Luka. Maybe I’ve just already held him in higher esteem than others, but Luka is basically doing exactly what I expected him to do
Ordinarily I agree with Broussard. It's his show after all. But expecting Luka to win a championship to change your mind is ridiculous. That's a Skip Bayless analysis.
Saying it's Broussard's show is some Skip-level stupidity as well. Ironic 😂
Agree it’s laughable
We all hate Nick sometimes but it's his show, you know it, I know it. Everybody knows it
The truth is, Broussard is right. We won't see Luka any different if he doesn't win this year. He'll still be seen as a top 3/4 player, a great playoff performer, and still on a legendary pace. If he wins this year, he'll reach another tier, now joining the other Superstars who have won. There's little more that Luka do to surpass how we already see him. I personally think he's the best player in the league who hasn't won yet.
You don’t think that the legacies of some all-time greats drastically change if they had won a chip? The goal of sports is to win. It’s literally that simple.
luka has already a better resume than dame lillard. and isn't dame on the top 75 list?
Paul George should’ve made it over him
@@Renegade-kf8fp Vince Carter shouldve made it, not George!
How many game winners luka has?
@@saucegod8852 enough. already.
@@Smido83dwight should've over either of them
Luka for all his video game numbers and accomplishments, dude is still being underrated. Luka v Ant is gonna be exciting to watch.
Cinema
Probably a sweep.
Underrated? That's a joke😂
@@penkima4923 doubtful
MVP finalist and underrated don't go in the same sentence…
Being disappointed if they don't beat a team that won 64 games is insane
If Luka was in LEASTERN CONFERENCE he'd already have 3 finals Appearances
Yeah, sure, and if the owl had glasses it would see during the day time.
For real. Tatum has been to 4 ECF….in the Leastern Conference
No bro. He'd be there every year. He'd cook Giannis, Embiid and everyone every single year
@@foundationsyth9825 true even Jimmy butler have 2 finals Appearances since 2020 more than tatum you're probably right Luka would've been there every year
@@BassYakCam yeah even trae young went to ECF. Going to WCF is more difficult than going to the finals in Leastern conference
Luka is da truth for real!!!!
He’s overrated kyrie carries hard tho😁
@@yaboisoe178 Cope. Kyrie didn't carry anything on the Nets. He's still not.
Casual. @@yaboisoe178
Haha Wildes has been forced to show up 🤣
Fun useless fact, Rémi Reverchon (beIn sports france) is one of the others to vote for Luka for MVP.
Another useless fact, Reverchon Park in Dallas has the best pickup games in Texas.
I can't believe Luka's 25. WTF he's been carrying the mav's for years!
Is google that hard to come by these days?
@@jehushaphatnot the point bruh. But when I Google "not a real one" your pfp shows up. Hmm
@@MrMancreatedgod Ah, so you CAN google after all! Well, good for you...proud of you, son!
@jehushaphat yes. Yes it is hard. Sometimes they lie, the Google people are fickle folk
@@jehushaphat Why do you want men to look at other men's age?
Sus AF.
The way brou only speaks ball thru individual player narratives makes my brain hurt it’s 5v5 out there man
Exactly lol, times have changed, it is not about individuals.
Luka getting his first ring this year
What ring does he get for getting swept?
haha impossible, u are so delusional
If Rudy or Kat joined Dallas yes Luka will have a chance
I like Luka but Minnesota is tough
Sweep is wild Rudy not gotta battle Gafford Ant v Kyrie so Who on Luka Jaden okay great defensive player but didn’t Luka just gave 3 triple doubles on lue Dort a top 5 defensive player I like the Mavs bro we got better role player more consistent
I forget how young Luka is too cuz he has been great so long. Im rooting for Ant but i really hope Luka gets a couple down the road.
Down the rrroooad?? Naw THIS year
Nah mavs win
@@minuiiHow? Minny EASILY has the best team, and they have confidence to burn. Down 20 in the 3rd quarter on the road in Game 7? NO OTHER TEAM has done that.
@@CorePathwaythat's not completely true. Yall want ant so bad and he hasn't done anything. Luka is gonna shut up a lot of doubters up this series and next.
@@melanatedgod5337nobody is doubting luka. He’s just kind of unlikeable sometimes lol
Both these dudes were hating on the Mavs and the Luka and kyrie duo all of sudden they wanna change their tune bruh
They didn’t even like the trade
Nick has acknowledged his misjudgment several times publicly
Yeah, there's a difference between being the best player on a team, and being the driving force behind a franchise
True. KD has often been the best scorer in every roster he was part of but never been considered a driving force behind a franchise...
Did they just forget basketball is a team sport 😂
But you can not create heroic narratives about the whole roster. Idiotic takes - they know, we know, but we are all playing the game by listening to them. But this take was with 0% logic, they are not running 100 meters on the track to compare them 1:1.
Luka is gonna have to get the respect he deserves at some point. Glad to see some media members are actually starting to talk about it
Luka was interesting for the few years when he played for a team that cannot contend. This is his 6th year, and it's about time he gets a team to contend. So, we can move forward in the discussion about is Luka hogging the ball too much, or can he lead a team to championship and deserve respect. He can't contend this season, so he's uninteresting.
@@penkima4923how high are you rn lmaoo
It’s a European player. Eventhough luka does have character and such Americans and their media will still keep hating em. Can’t be racist against white folks am I right
@@penkima4923 He can't contend? Huh. Not sure where you got that idea.
It's crazy how mavericks entered as underdog in all series but they have won 4 series of them
THIS MAVS TEAM HAS HAD HALF A SEASON TOGETHER AND THEYRE IN THE WCF!!! That is amazing on its own!
Didn’t the Lakers do that last year?
@@BlazerManiacNumber96 didnt they get swept?
@@GodsDumbLamb That means nothing in the context of this discussion. Try to keep up
Been waiting to see Wildes after his Den debacle! 😂
No talking heads picked Dallas only Paul Pierce and they are picking against them again. The fact Luka has to win a title to get respect while leading the league in scoring with 34-10-9 every night is crazy talk.
How does he not get respect? Brou voted for him!!
@@RT-qz5ci Bru doesn't have take consistency.
They did this to Dirk as well before he won his title
@@TheLD012they do it to every supposed great player, Giannis and Jokic being the most recent and they were more proven (MVP winners) than Luka. Plus Dirk choked in the playoffs a lot before he won late in his career that’s why he was doubted even more
3:36 Jayson Tatum was drafted to a team that made the conference finals the year they drafted him lol
I still cant believe doncic didnt get mvp averaging 34pg/9.8 as/9.2 reb
Love the running Paul George GOAT jokes 😂😂😂
Gotta stop moving the goal post.. teams can only play who’s on the court in front of them!!!!
Wildes and Denver fangirls in shambles 😂
Most the media did NOT pick Dallas most said "Thunder in 6"
And media as a whole continues to not take Dallas
@@brandonrush4800i prefer being the underdogs than favorites anyway. no added pressure
Yeah I remember checking ESPNs picks, all 6 or so picked Thunder
Every single commentator at ESPN picked the Thunder.. not one of them picked Dallas..
facts...
Does Bru not realize the east had been hella soft for the last 10 years?
The east isn't soft, the west just has better teams
Not exactly Boston, Philly, Bucks, Miami Toronto when Kawhi was there.
East has been soft for way over 10 years lmao. They've been weaker for like the last 25 years. Besides Boston the "big" basketball markets in the east have terrible ownership, bringing the whole conference down because you don't even need a good team to get into the playoffs.
@@TonyMontana-tp4mn That's what I mean by soft. The west is stacked. The east had 4 good teams max this year.
@bluv5185 In the last 25 years the west has won an NBA title 17 times to the east's 8 times. They've been the easier conference for a LONG time. As for this year the only good teams in the east were The Celtics, Knicks, Pacers and 76ers IMO. The Bucks were a massive disappointment after grabbing Dame.
Let’s emphasize that Luka has now taken 2 entirely different teams to the WCFs. Only Green and Luka played on the previous Mavs team which btw was only 2 years ago
Watching Brou, the seasoned vet and Nick, the studious prodigy go at it is incredible. I hope this cast has an NBA and TNT level run. This is feeding families.
perfect timing, just got home fro work
Mann I’m hiding in my car watching this. I got 1 hour left on my shift😭😭😭
tatum has had the privilege of being on either a great team or a straight up super team literally every year of his career, you trade him and luka's circumstances, and luka has 2 rings already
Name one MVP Tatum has played with? Name any superstars he has played with?
I call him Mr perfect situation
A superteam needs at least two superstars no? The Celtics have never had that, heck some people still argue Tatum isn't even one
These are all hypotheticals though. We’ve seen plenty of super talented teams fail to win it, there’s no guaranteeing Luka wins it in Boston. Also what superstar has Tatum played with, you gotta have at least two to be a superteam.
@@zuhayrakhanwtf being mvp gotta do with it 😂 he playing with 2 all nba players holiday & brown. Not too mention former all star unicorn. Stop it he got the best teammates in the league
Luka has got to at least make the Finals for him to take that next leap. Now, if they lose to the Celtics (who they would likely play), particularly if KP is back, there is no shame in that, the Celtics are a historically great team (I don't understand Brou and Nick's skepticism around the Celtics). But I don't think losing to the Wolves would impact how Luka is seen, he'd still be seen as one of the best players in the league.
Dont expect kp
Its because all those years with Miami
Boston always has the better and find a way to lose
Luca is the same age as them ok. But they have jrue holiday, kristaps, a better bench, and an all time point diff. That’s insane analysis
Yeah, at this point just have them play 1on1.
Luka gets more praise than everyone; expectations should match.
@@vitreo1363 No he doesnt, the media had SGA above Luka in MVP voting.
@readmycomment3707 Yep, and they already love Ant more than him. Luka has been criticized all year, and he still lasted longer than Joker and SGA.
I don’t know bro the mags are deep off their bench
Luka has more points, more assist, more rebounds, is arguably even the better defender. So how is Tatum better than Luka again?
Yeah I am a Celtics fan but I'd take Luka ALL day over Tatum. Tatum's shot selection at times drive me insane. You are a huge wing, if the 3 ain't there, drive.
He’s not
Agree but better defender is rough to say
@@marcosalexandre4044 lmao yeah I’d rather have Luka and he has gotten better on D but Tatum is a much better defender.
Leastern Conference
Been waiting for this all day!
Let’s Go WOLVES!!!!!
How people still rate Book over Luka is beyond me
Fortunately, very few dare doing it anymore as of today.
Comparing the teams Luka has had as opposed to Tatum. Tatum has had arguably the best team if not top 3 team in terms of talent for the past seems like 7 years. Tatum has been underachieving consistently while Luka has been overachieving.
Tatum has been playing for contending teams, but it is rare that #1 options win rings in their early 20's. Ant wins one this season, but he's been extremely lucky with the team that drafted him. And Ant-Man isn't the true leader of his team, or the closer.
People forget that JT and JB were drafted to a team that made the ECF with Isaiah Thomas at PG.
You had 2/10 of the top young players in the league on cheap contracts with a deep roster for 5-6years with 1 finals appearance.
This is the point.
@@penkima4923 I like Tatum but the reason great early 20’s players don’t win is because they were drafted to bad teams and it takes those years to develop a championship roster. Tatum was blessed to be drafted to a team that had championship aspirations and shortly became top 3 in chances to win the finals due to their championship rosters. Celtics typically don’t lose because their team didn’t play up to par, the Celtics typically lose because their two best players come up short.
Every Boston team before 2022 overachieved and it's a lie to say otherwise. Never had a healthy Hayward, had a healthy but toxic kyrie for one season out of the two he was there, never had a healthy kemba, the 2020-21 team was god awful and should never be mentioned as good, the 2021-22 made a historical turn around mid season and beat the defending champ bucks and #1 heat, only to lose to the dynasty, definitely overachieving. 2022-23 team loses in 7 to the heat, that was the only team expected to win it all and underachieve.
it's really sad but true at the same time what JKidd said "we used to see Luka being great and forget to appreciate it" (or something similar along the lines)
The Boston disrespect is crazy here.
Idk I kinda get what Brou is saying. I already think of Luka as a top 5 guy in the league. Really the only place for him to go from here is to become the best player in the world and for that to happen he needs to win a chip
Chris B. Actually right on this one. Luka needs to get it done this year.
When Nick was describing Luka it sounded alot like him describing Jason Tatum
Stop it, tatums been on stacked teams since day 1
@@bmxney3143 wasn't that the same stacked team that he lead to the ECF and went head to head with Bron
@@bmxney3143 Casual
Comparing Luka to JT is like Comparing a Ferrari to a Benz... JT is nice, very nice. But far from a Ferrari
@@FourScore460He was drafted to a #1 seed that had just made the ECF. Cut it out.
Going to ECF in Leastern conference don't hold much value its harder to go to WCF then to NBA Finals in Leastern conference
Jaylen Brown is 2.5 years older than Luka. Jayson Tatum is a year older than Luka. That's not the same age
Nick be spittin man🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️
I agree with Brou. Dallas should be the favorites to win the title. Luka is the best player left and he has the best #2 in Kyrie. Plus very good supporting pieces and a great defense. There's no excuse for Luka not to get his first ring this year.
Luka helping Mavs beat Wolves in the conference finals would be sufficient enough to prove he is the dawg and transcendent player.
If he can help the Mavs win the chip, then he is already a hall of famer.
Broussard needs to understand they are playing 5 v 5 basketbal, not 1 v 1
The consistent Boston slander is wild
Good take brou
Glad to see the Celtics disrespect is at an all time high. Thinking Tatum isn’t nearly as good as Luka is just wrong. Also saying “Boston can’t lose this year” then say it would be embarrassing if you lost to Boston is just haterade at full strength. Makes ZERO sense. Sooo you pick these west teams over Boston, but in the same breath you think it would be a travesty if Boston lost?? Make it make sense my goodness.
Luka is two full tiers above Tatum
@@RyGuyGinger 🤡
Luka is a thousand times better than Tatum!
Honestly, Tatum is elite, but he’s too hot/cold. He’s missing something in his game. Just disappears for long stretches even when Celts are in tight games
I agree with the frustrations on how Boston/Tatum are discussed. Makes no sense.
As for Luka vs Tatum: Look, Luka has had the highest usage rate in the NBA by a mile for several years, and Tatum plays on a team that has no real hierarchy. Luka is clearly the more skilled offensive player, and the numbers he puts up are mind blowing. Tatum is a far more impactful defender (elite perimeter defense, and can guard bigger players, if yall didn’t know). Luka is better, but Tatum has a chance to surpass him and everyone else. Luka has a chance to surpass everyone. To me it comes down to winning, so let’s see who out of this field wins the chip.
3:14 - Most people took Dallas to win the series?! What? 😂
That's not true at all. They were underdogs against the Clippers, and even more so against OKC.
Now they're once again the underdogs, with Vegas & most everyone else picking against them.
Betting lines changed when Kawhi was certain to be out.
Nobody thought OKC was the favorite against Dallas lol. Unless you don’t watch basketball
Dallas was favored against a Kawhi-less Clippers team.
And a ton of folk thought whoever won that series would beat OKC. Everybody wanted that young team to prove them wrong.
@@Musicrunsthewrld Riiight. "Nobody" thought the 1 seed was the favorite. That's why they were the Vegas favorites to win the series, then were favorites in 4 out of 6 games.
But sure, Vegas has nobody watching basketball 😂
@@corey2232exactly. Just talking to talk.
lmao four of my friends audibly went “what” when nick said luka was younger than sga 😂
me too!
I just realized I’m only watching cause of these three guys. I hate basketball but these guys make me listen. Football break is way too long.
How can Nick hate on Boston and say he doesn’t believe in them for years now, but if his 2nd favorite player Luka doesn’t beat them it’s all good. You can’t baby and shield him from accountability. He has an all star level co-star with a good supporting cast. His standard going forward in his career is winning titles. period.
Their trade was graded a D. As was the Kai trade. They were picked to be a play in team at best. Why are they so much better? Luca Fn Doncic. He makes others better. No question now.
@@Jyoandbean Because a certain person or group of ppl have one opinion doesn’t mean it speaks for the public. Many ppl thought those trades were great for the Mavs especially for defensive purposes and it showed. With new information you’re allowed to change the standards. Luka is great but before those trades they weren’t performing well so it’s not ALL about him. And if you wanna make it just about him you gotta do so in both wins and losses.
The Boston/tatum slander needs to end
Could make the same argument with Boston about should be winning titles. Except they’ve had a much much easier path year after year to get to the finals. And still haven’t done it.
@@JJmystic you play who’s on your schedule, buddy.
Kevin Wildes is the MVP. The true and only one leader of this team
Gus Williams is a legend!! Just ask anyone from Seattle. 👍🏻
Y'all say Tatum has a stacked team and Luka's an underdog and then all of y'all turnaround and say Boston won't win the chip. Stop flip-flopping to give Luka a narrative that him making the WCF is some sort of major achievement. If it truly is, then we should be paying more attention to Ant making it since he's younger.
And tbh Mavs were never underdogs this playoffs until now against the Timberwolves.
He said "you got kyrie irving" like its 2017😭😭😭 wat he gone do
You talk as if Kyrie is 40. He's 32! That's younger than any of the top players the Clippers had.
@@jehushaphat A seasoned professional who has been there before. The only other person craftier at scoring just happens to be his teammate.
YEA BRO THIS WASNT A GOOD TAKE 🤣
Bro what? Kyrie has been better than Luka through the playoffs so far. Nobody has been able to guard him
Kyrie is still in his prime bro. Wym😂
Crazy how much shade gets thrown at Tatum. Really hope he gets a ring this year just to remind people who he is.
So, he'd win a ring as one of five all-star caliber players. That would remind us that he's just another all-star, and not a superstar.
@@penkima4923no way u genuinely think they have five all stars please learn to analyze the game beyond espn
Soft.
It's hard out in the west
Can't agree with the Tatum comparison because of the difference in strength between western and Eastern conferences
Luka just won against the 1 seed on one leg, what is Chris's take? Extremely rare nick W
Luka is literally a top 75 NBA ever ... right now. His stats are HISTORIC.
Y’all put everyone in the top 75
You love Luca now lol, look Broussard when Luka entered the Draft.. boy we do not forget
Not surprised, the goal post always gets pushed back when its Luka
Wym? You play the game to win championships right? Not just make it to the conference finals.
See, this is Nick being sensible & having measured takes.
But why can't he give players like Brock Purdy in the NFL the same benefit of the doubt? You have way more control of your team's success in basketball, yet he acts like Purdy losing to the Chiefs *IS* an indictment on him!
Luka losing to the Nuggets wouldn't be an indictment, Luka losing to the team that beat the Nuggets wouldn't be an indictment, but Purdy losing to Mahomes (someone he doesn't even share the field with) means he's not that good.
Nick never said Purdy losing to Mahomes means he’s not good. He’s just stuck in his ways due to the 49ers surrounding talent and previous success with a mediocre QB.
I think the only way Purdy will convince the public that he’s more than just a beneficiary of an amazing situation is consistency and him still being great after he gets paid big money and talent leaves.
We can finally move on to the future GOAT Debates of: Michael Jordan vs Victor Wembanyama, Michael Jordan vs Anthony Edwards, Michael Jordan vs Luka Doncic, Michael Jordan vs Nikola Jokic, Michael Jordan vs Jalen Brunson, Michael Jordan vs Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Michael Jordan vs Ja Morant, Michael Jordan vs Donovan Mitchell, et cetera, et cetera. 💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💪
Lol
Don't forget tatum
Bro you're embarrassing yourself
Stop commenting this
Losing to Denver is Ok
But Losing to Team who beat Denver is not Ok!!!
And beating team who had better seed than Denver in regular season get no credit?
I am puzzled bru my man, Nick cooked.. he hit the hammer right on the nail..
It's funny how Nick's tune was different when Jokic was on this Luka path of being awesome with no post season success. That man was killing Joker. For Luka, he just bloviates about how awesome his post season stats are all time.
The Boston hate in the media is crazy
It’s not Boston hate… they’ve been making the ECF since IT4. JT and JB were amazing picks that came into a winning team due to incredible draft fleecing by their GM.
It’s simply pointing out that incredible rosters with cheap top 3picks haven’t got it done yet.
That’s the point.
@@ryanenewman_9103 the lack of context is crazy. The Celtics have overachieved like every year except last year.
@@mattsell2361 overachieved no bro not this year. they have like 6 all star caliber players. A legit super team. They probably gonna win it even if tatum averages 19 I still think celtics the best team
@@DD-rk6kn no I agree winning this year is not overachieving they should win
THANK YOU
Jokic got his title last year, now i hope Luka gets his🤞🏼
It's the era of defense now, so no, Luka won't get his in a while.
@@penkima4923 oh no i’m so sad now.. i wish you hadn’t told me that
🔥
Luka the Don 💯
Nick talking about JT:
Chokes! Can't win!
Nick talking about Luka (doing what Tatum did in year 3):
This is my god. There is no one more impressive in this world.
THANK YOU
Look at his squad and look how weak the east is.
It's not the same.
@@BroEth24 I don’t want to hear about the weak east argument anymore. Yall praise bron for making 8 straight finals and he was in the weak east. Keep it consistent. Just give Tatum and the Celtics their just due. It’s not that hard, it’s free and it doesn’t hurt
@@SOURJDADDY I mean, the East being kinda bad definitely helped LeBron.
@@SOURJDADDYknow basketball. It was 8 straight.
This is the biggest series in Luka’s career, where ever year he gets mvp votes. But now Antman is younger, a better team player, doesn’t complain constantly, doesn’t flop around the court, doesn’t dribble the air out of the ball… if luka looses in the playoffs again and to Anthony Edwards, Luka will need a career makeover.
Melo type beat
Even with his injury struggles Luka is better than Ant. He showed up when it mattered the most vs OKC, while Ant got carried hard by his team in the deciding game 7. Funny how nearly everyone seems to ignore his 6-24 fg, 2-10 3p and him being a liability yesterday.
@@antifaschi7869the difference is ant is an elite defender even when he’s not scoring, Luka’s whole game is offense which makes him more one dimensional and Luka’s efficiency this playoffs is terrible.
Good points. Not sure they are going to beat the wolves. If they do, I don't think they will beat Boston. By then they will also be dead tired from all those long series.
@@antifaschi7869 Luka is scoring more, sure, but Ant is a much better defender, so that kind of even things out a bit. Also, Luka is the system, he has the ball a lot. The wolves have a system. It's going to be a great series.
I agree with Broussard
People have to reach sooo hard to not show him the love/respect he deserves. It's coming to a point where you can judge someone basketball intelligence based on what they say about Luka. You either know basketball or dont..
If you switch out Luka and Tatum with exact same teams Luka probably has 2/3 rings right now. And Tatum might not even have a conf finals appearance. Unfortunately as good as Luka is he will likely lose to wolves cuz they’re the bigger better team.
If you switch them out the rest of the Celtics will fail to produce due to standing around watching Luka try do do everything and we'll STILL end up talking about how Luka needs help. He had a healthier Porzingis and a younger Brunson, for crying out loud, and still people said he had nobody, and now those guys are balling in other teams.
Shows me you haven’t watched the Celtics lmao. The Celtics have only just become legit title favorites with Tatum as the best player. The year they made the finals no one thought they would ever make that run and Tatum led them. Mind you Tatum has gone toe to toe with Giannis, Kd, Embiid, and Butler. And also went 7 games with Lebron playing the best basketball of his career in 2018.
@jehushaphat You're using a bad faith argument. KP was hurt half the time and is hurt now, btw. Brunson has only shined, having a usage rate equal to Luka. KP isn't even playing and his team still coasted to the ECF. Luka making it through a harder conference as a number 1 option is far more impressive.
Bad take
@@nathanrivas8216 what? They made the finals and was barely an underdog to warriors on their last leg. I saw tatum shoot 36% and choke games away with bad turnovers.
And year after making finals they weren’t legit contenders? lol. Why? Cuz you saw Tatum shoot 23% from deep in conf finals and put up 14pts in a game 7 at home?
But you’re right. I haven’t been paying attention lol
Is no one going to mention that Luka has been a lower seed because he didn’t win that much in the regular season and that’s mostly his fault
Lol
But u didn’t mention the fact his teammates (Theo pinson, Reggie bullock, Dwight Powell, christian wood) before were terrible
Those Luka stats that Nick gave us are objectively nutty. As crazy as those are, there's that 'other' thing...the kid is a straight up killer.
That Brou take is kinda wild. Idk how you wouldn't objectively say the Celtics have a better team than the Mavs, and Kyrie has been very inconsistent scoring-wise in the playoffs. You can't just say "you have Kyrie" as if it's a given that that will be the utmost difference maker in a series against the Celtics. It MIGHT be, but it's not definitive. Meanwhile, The Celtics have multiple other ancillary pieces who could explode and win them games besides Jaylen Brown and Tatum.
"Luke is YOUNGER than SGA!" Bro, sure, by 5 months. SGA outplayed him in this series too, but no one will say that because the team shot 25% from 3 and let him down.
Luka was clearly hurt, you buffoon
We can do this for anyone
Change Luka's freethrows with SGA's and then tell me if he still outplayed him
@@hunterXhamsterSGA barely shot any free throws Games 3 - 6
@@Jaywrites23which is why they lost.
0:01 Luka Doncic is surpassing LeBron James. LeBron James is the BIGGEST NBA Western Conference Failure in NBA History - LeBron James: 2019 -> FAILED to make the NBA Playoffs, 2020 -> Asterisk BUBBLE Consolation Prize, 2021 -> LOST in the 1st Round, 2022 FAILED to make even the NBA PLAY-IN Tournament👀😅, 2023 SWEPT 4-0 in the Western Conference Finals, and 2024 Gentlemen’s SWEEP 4-1 in the 1st Round. Now we see why LeBron James went to 8 straight NBA Finals. Michael Jordan locked the GOAT Position at #1. Now ranking Kareem, Magic, Kobe, and Bird ahead of LeBron James sounds very logical. And yes, the basketball world is starting to rank Tim Duncan over LeBron James as well.
Your tripping
Lebron past his prime won finals mvp. Luka is yet to win mvp or reach the finals. Imagine if luka loses to ant, who's only 22.
Skip, that u?
that asterisk bubble nonsense is dumb. the rest of the league had that same bonus.
Dallas giving off vibes bro
NBA is going to give us a Dallas vs Boston Finals watch. Kyrie getting the last laugh against r@$!$ Boston, and im here for it all.
LOL! Don't censor yourself and let's compare notes between Dallas and Boston when it comes to racism…
@vitreo1363 lol ya I know what's coming so I pivot accordingly. And what a horrible thing to do to compare racism 😅 I'm guessing you're from Boston.
@@APTTMH_3 Yeah, I'm sure you're one of those republicans who says it's better to not talk about racism… unless it's for a narrative.
@@vitreo1363 😅 you were better off not replying after 2 weeks. You tried to compare racism
Thats crazy that Brou is gonna hold Luka more accountable for losing to Edwards than the self proclaimed greatest offensive player ever and best player in the league
Nick is 💯 here
Luka is playing with a sprained knee, a nagging other knee and a nagging ankle. If he were healthy you would have witnessed another tremendous offensive postseason from him. And yet he’s still leading his team to playoff success by playing great defense, being the best playmaker in this playoffs, and hitting timely shots down the stretch.
Y’all just hate on him because you doubted him from the start so you want to keep doubling down
If Luka plays in the East, he'd be in ECF every year.
Tatum done all of that plus more (the list of post season success Nick listed for Luka) but god forbid i state a fact… incoming haters
"AIGHT" is not an arguement, Brou. 😉
So losing to Denver okay but losing to the team that beats Denver is worst ? Make it make sense Brou.
Tuxedo Wright
Win lose or draw, a finals appearance at 24/25 is insane and him actually winning would be otherworldly. That means he would go thru the 4/3/1 seed in the west AND the Number 1 Eastern conference team?! HE GOTTA DO ALL THAT TO SAY HE TOOK A STEP FORWARD? Mind you most analysts said the kyrie trade was a failure, and that the trades for pj and gafford didn’t move the needle much(when they occurred) now you saying it’s win a ring at 25 with this team or bust 🤯🤯🤯😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
Luka's only competition is Referees with blessing of NBA.
So What About Tatum?
I think what kind of bothers me with his argument, is that going into the series it’s always “this team beats the mavs” but once they do its “they haven’t proven anything yet.” The celtics will be the most rested team heading into the finals. They will likely finish the pacers in 5.