How to run E85 in the 86 WITHOUT FLEX FUEL!

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  • @theskwashmob310
    @theskwashmob310 4 роки тому +8

    This was so confusing that I had to re-watch it several times. I managed to understand the steps. Step1: empty your fuel tank. Step2: Add E85 and have the Open flash tablet connected. Step 3 drive until the ST And FT Are in between 10 and -10, at that point pull over and install the E 85 stage 2 tune. Step:3 Continue driving till the FT and ST are balanced between 10 and -10. Step 4: once the FT and ST are balanced, make a few pulls starting at 2500 rpm all the way to 6000 rpm. You're welcome

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  4 роки тому +5

      Crazy that this video is two years old with almost 9k views and you’re the first person to find it confusing lol

  • @youcdtube
    @youcdtube 4 роки тому +8

    Just get the flex fuel automatic conversion kit installed. Then an E85 Ekutek tune. Then the sensor will automatically adjust to the difference of the fuel mixture of say 93 /91 and e 85 No stress!

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  4 роки тому +8

      Yeah if you’re willing to drop the money then go for it. This is an option for those on a budget.

    • @apexcentra4018
      @apexcentra4018 3 роки тому +1

      What type of comment is this, the whole video is about running e85 without buying a flex fuel kit. Then you just go and comment. “Buy a flex fuel kit” are you a moron?

  • @tokyosuoh-yx9jb
    @tokyosuoh-yx9jb Рік тому +1

    I wonder if upgrading your fuel pump to the e85 one might help🧐

  • @friskoskiez3761
    @friskoskiez3761 4 роки тому +6

    What needs to happen is make 2 dyno tests. One with a flex fuel "KIT" and one with an 85 tune, to see what sup.

  • @jbrockskill
    @jbrockskill 6 років тому +4

    Definitely make a vid when you notice the horrible cold starts when the temp is below 60 degrees. If you adjust the tune you can make it able to start at 50 degrees minimum. If it is 40 or below good luck man( multiple start attempts to even start) for me I’m only running it in the summer. I even have the AEM E85 fuel pump

    • @curtdragon
      @curtdragon 6 років тому

      Never had an issue with cold start all through winter. Then again I have Ecutek

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 6 років тому +1

      Absolutely not my experience in NY, -25F starting, no problem.

    • @milesstewart4237
      @milesstewart4237 2 роки тому

      hey man, did you do anything else besides upgrade the fuel pump? I just bought one and see it is e85 compatible but not sure if there is more i need to do... such as tune or supporting mods

    • @jbrockskill
      @jbrockskill 2 роки тому +1

      @@milesstewart4237 you have to tune the car before running E85.

  • @JR_86
    @JR_86 5 років тому +5

    How safe is it to run e85 for your injectors and fuel lines?

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  5 років тому +1

      I have not heard any incidents of E85 damaging the FRS injectors or fuel lines, however that’s not me saying it’s impossible. Supposedly E85 can deteriorate lines faster and E85 clogs injectors. But running occasionally running 91 or 93 cleans the injectors so the clogging isn’t a concern for me especially since I only run e85 at the track, and I haven’t seen any instances of E85 ruining fuel lines.

    • @matt25675
      @matt25675 3 роки тому

      @@OrenHolzman I heard someone else say to occasionally run a tank of 91. Do you have to flash back to a 91 tune to do that? I assume so

    • @mpa1931
      @mpa1931 3 роки тому

      @@matt25675 With OFT you have to run down fuel and reflash everytime you want to change from e85 to unleaded and vice versa.

    • @saulespino2510
      @saulespino2510 2 роки тому

      @@matt25675 Yes you do need to flash back to a 91 tune

    • @isaiahgranados4281
      @isaiahgranados4281 2 роки тому

      @@mpa1931 how often should I change back to 91 ??

  • @chrisray4748
    @chrisray4748 6 років тому +5

    E85 is harder to ignite which is why it is better for high compression engine. My theory is that the engine doesn't start up as easily because it has to work harder to initially ignite the e85, especially from a cold start.

    • @DarkLinkAD
      @DarkLinkAD 6 років тому

      In my experience, E-85 is easier to ignite and far more forgiving in overly lean (runs cool) and far too rich (doesn't over saturate/foul plugs) conditions. Also, ive used it down to -25 degrees F, no issues with starting.

  • @rookietoprobuildz
    @rookietoprobuildz 6 років тому +4

    Very informative, I want to go E85 someday.

    • @davidpac4
      @davidpac4 6 років тому +1

      Edward Razura-Perez pay for it sir

  • @aaronarreola60
    @aaronarreola60 5 років тому +1

    Is this with stock parts or do I need new fuel injectors and fuel pump?

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  5 років тому

      Correct, completely stock injectors, pump, and lines

    • @eddboiii300
      @eddboiii300 4 роки тому

      So over a year will the fuel lines corrode

    • @saulespino2510
      @saulespino2510 2 роки тому +1

      @@eddboiii300 no they won't, run e85 on my BRZ for 2 years so far and no problems

  • @เหล็กแท่ง
    @เหล็กแท่ง 4 роки тому +1

    Can it work with automatic brz

  • @jorqlip
    @jorqlip 9 місяців тому

    Dude what are you say?😂😢

  • @JR_86
    @JR_86 5 років тому

    Does open flash tablet v1 come with e85 tune? And whats the difference between v1 and v2 OFT?

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  5 років тому +1

      So the main difference between the V1 and V2 is the memory and the size, I believe. The screen and memory capacity on the V2 are larger. However, the real task it’s performing which is uploading a new tune to your car or monitoring sensor levels stays the same. All open flash off the shelf tunes are available on their website and are usable for the V1 and V2. I have the V1 and have no intentions of upgrading.

  • @life_creator-d5g
    @life_creator-d5g 5 років тому

    Hey so do I follow the gas gauge on the frs cluster or is that not accurate when using e85

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  5 років тому

      Gas gauge is accurate but the MPG estimation isn’t unless you modify the values

  • @tehgusbus2716
    @tehgusbus2716 6 років тому

    I can't check on my phone but is the link you provided the direct link to e85 equal length stage 2 tune

  • @gagesgarage6365
    @gagesgarage6365 6 років тому +1

    Can I do this in my Chevy S10 that cannot handle 5000 RPM ;(

  • @cloudyskyforever2553
    @cloudyskyforever2553 6 років тому +3

    Is E85 safe for the fuel system and the engine in the long run everybody? Thanks!

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  6 років тому +3

      I’ve ready on the forums testimony of people who have ran it for over 30,000 miles and have experienced no issues. In all transparency I have also been told that it can corrode your fuel lines but I have not heard of this happening to any 86s. Hope that helps!

    • @cloudyskyforever2553
      @cloudyskyforever2553 6 років тому +1

      Oren Holzman Racing Thanks Oren!

    • @cloudyskyforever2553
      @cloudyskyforever2553 6 років тому +1

      Edward Razura-Perez Thanks so much Edward for your insightful comment!

    • @cloudyskyforever2553
      @cloudyskyforever2553 6 років тому +1

      Edward Razura-Perez Thank you, I’m now more confident running on E85 with the OFT tune.

    • @cloudyskyforever2553
      @cloudyskyforever2553 6 років тому +1

      Edward Razura-Perez Yes Sir. I will be filling her up with E85 for the first time and will let you know how it goes. Thanks again for your help. Edward.

  • @scottwood7990
    @scottwood7990 6 років тому

    What headlights are thoose, where can i get them

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  6 років тому

      They’re Spec D headlights! Most 86 parts dealers sell them, check 86speed and ft86speedfactory

  • @herne204
    @herne204 6 років тому +1

    I enjoy all the vids but I prefer vlogs and installs the most (imo). Can we get some more of those 😊I see the downforce is now upon us 😮 Keep up the awesome content!

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  6 років тому

      Will do! Thanks for the feedback 😁

    • @whatupguy5685
      @whatupguy5685 6 років тому

      Oren Holzman Racing I have the oft is it hard to download the file for uel and e85 to the oft itself

  • @huntersmith9997
    @huntersmith9997 5 років тому

    what wheels are those and what are the measurements?

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  5 років тому

      I can’t remember if I have RPF1s in this video or APEX ARC8s. I currently run the ARC8 wheels. 17x9 with a 35 off set.

  • @Wes_Log
    @Wes_Log 5 років тому

    Dope

  • @tehgusbus2716
    @tehgusbus2716 6 років тому

    how much more hp do you get on a stock car

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  6 років тому +1

      Estimates say 10-15 when naturally aspirated

  • @GodzUnit01
    @GodzUnit01 6 років тому

    Got a question about the stock/factory 86 ECU in regards to tuning. I'm new to tuning and I've read up on a bunch of different tunes for the 86 platform but the only things I'm not sure of are
    1) is all this tuning done on the stock/factory ECU or is everyone using an aftermarket stand-alone ECU
    2) how many different tunes can be saved/memorized on the factory ECU at once
    I have a few more questions that are a little more technical. I've been considering the Jackson Racing C38 Supercharger Kit with the Factory Tuned kit for CARB reasons because I'm from California. I also want to run E85.
    3) will the Factory Tune for the JRSC kit adjusted to run E85 pass a SMOG test as is
    4) if the above tune won't pass SMOG, is it possible for the factory ECU to hold two separate tunes; one for the CARB legal JRSC Factory Tune and the other for E85
    5) when in for a SMOG, will the technician be able to find any other tunes hiding in the ECU and fail the inspection

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  6 років тому +1

      1) factory ECU. Unless you are building a full on race car you don’t need a new ECU.
      2) only one tune with open flash tablet but you can save five (I think) on the tablet and switch through those infinite times. On ECUTEK I think you can save 5 on the car at once and switch through at any time.
      3) off the shelf tune will pass smog
      4) with ECUTEK this may be possible but a tuner like delicious would know more.
      5) no they just start the car, let it run, maybe a rev, and let it go. They don’t actually care if it passes, they just want their money.
      Sorry I didn’t respond quickly, I’m happy to help and if you message me on instagram or snap “neroman98” I will respond ASAP! Hope that helps

  • @830Video
    @830Video 6 років тому +1

    Smh not a single dab

  • @clintdegen
    @clintdegen 5 років тому

    I cant bring myself to spend 500 on a flash tablet.

    • @OrenHolzman
      @OrenHolzman  5 років тому +2

      It honestly was my favorite pre-turbo purchase since tuning was easy and you can use it to diagnose check engine lights and check live data. Way worth it imo

    • @valentinedpg
      @valentinedpg 5 років тому

      There are other alternative.. using ecuflash and a website laptop. Just get the OBD2 Port tactronix or something like that for 150 Dollar

    • @matthew_cramer
      @matthew_cramer 5 років тому

      borrow it off a friend or go over to their house.

  • @alexisgutierrez1515
    @alexisgutierrez1515 6 років тому

    I just there is a E 85 tune just listen to him and follow the instructions and it would be perfect my only problem is my CEL light turned on and gave me a code of P2207

  • @ardikasulistija6574
    @ardikasulistija6574 6 років тому +1

    Great vid!

  • @MrSqueetah
    @MrSqueetah 6 років тому +1

    Notifications on 👌🏼

  • @markser9861
    @markser9861 6 років тому

    Haha a want to be TJ hunt

    • @x808drifter
      @x808drifter 6 років тому +1

      Mark Ser Yep, spreading misinformation like that scrub too.
      If you can guarantee your e85 is actual 85% no problem.
      But e85 at most stations means “up to” 85% ethanol.
      Lots of stations vary and sometimes by wide margins.
      There have been people that did what this ass has and ended up killing the engine because the tune couldn’t properly adjust to the huge change in ethanol content.