John, the absolute honesty you begin with is something that is lacking in thousands of youtube vids onya buddy for making that disclaimer right up front
John, I have been welding at home since approximately 1970 and have had a crack at oxy, stick, mig and lately tig. Loved the way you presented this video. It was informative to the new and a great revision for us old farts. Thank you for the brake cleaner warning and the other safety tips, including the uv warning. Might have just tipped me into replacing my old respirator mask as well. Your workbench video and this one are showing your talent for teaching. Thank you. Terry
I learned to weld as an automotive machinist (engine reconditioner). I can TIG weld cast aluminum really well and could even stick weld a cast iron head if it was cracked, given all the needed tools. I wouldn't be able to weld a trailer together and be confident about it. The guys who can TIG weld stainless and make it look like a machine did it are the ones who really impress me, a really nice stainless TIG weld can be like pornography.
You're right about nice TIG welding. Whenever I'm feeling a bit frisky, I'll watch one of Bad Obsession Motorsport's Project Binky videos. If Nik started a TIG welding and bracket making channel on Only Fans, I'd subscribe to it.
Probably the best video of yours I've seen. Hope we see more how to videos from you. I'm surprised we didn't get to see any action footage of you stick welding.
Been 20 years since I moved from being a mechanic and boat builder to software engineering. Soon my son will be old enough to learn. I'll be certainly throwing a number of practice welds together with him before jumping to building a good little welding table as a starter project for us both to practice on.
All good advice, great even! Some was better than I got in a welding class in high school... back in the dark ages, when such courses were taught in normal schools. Not mentioned, but important: You need steady hands for arc welding, and it may help to sweep the arc a short distance from side to side, at right angles to the drag direction ( for an overall effect of _zigzag path,_ ) or sweep in small circles that overlap a bit on one side. *If you can't master all the simultaneous things needed in arc welding . . .* *Use GAS WELDING instead. Then you can tolerate a small amount of rust by setting the torch to slightly "carburizing", or burn off oil by setting the torch to slightly "oxidizing". If the joints don't require maximum strength, you can use BRAZING or SILVER SOLDERING.* Those are MUCH simpler than arc welding, do not require such steady hands, generally require no nasty flux, and are fairly easy to master. Plus with Gas Welding (technically known as Oxy-Acetylene), you can also CUT steel almost like a plasma cutter, by using a cutting torch as the head. *For light duty brazing, you don't even need acetylene* (C2H2, aka Ethyne), but I do recommend using a gas-blending torch type with added oxygen such as Oxy-Propane. The higher flame temperature just makes it all much easier than even the hottest blowtorch. Silver Soldering (with "Hard Solder") is a very useful yet simple skill, as it can make quite strong joints on a wide variety of metals, and of course, it looks rather like silver. Unlike welding, both brazing and silver soldering are useful for joining dissimilar metals, such as steel to copper, steel to cast iron, and several other combinations. Gas torches also generate MUCH LESS ultraviolet light than electric arcs, and avoid the _fluxing fumes._ BUT, operating cost on gas torches is higher, especially the Oxy-Acetylene torches. In exchange for the higher cost, there is no Electric Satan chasing you on a motorcycle, and there is some simplicity plus convenience.
Back in the Stone age when I was in the USAF *_(early 1980's)_* I replaced parts of the floor in a *_VW Karmann Ghia_* by brazening in some pieces of galvanized sheet metal. Around *_02:00_*__the next morning __*_(That's 2:00AM to you non Military folks)_* I woke up as sick as a dog and had to go to the base hospital, I had a *_BAD_* headache along with the shakes and queasiness. The ER Dr. ask if I had eaten or drank anything or if I had been exposed to any chemicals. I explained to him that I had brazed galvanized sheet metal the day before and he came back with a glass full of a white liquid and told me to drink it all down without stopping. After drinking I said that tasted like MILK and he said that it was I asked what was in the milk and he said nothing it was just milk and that the calcium in milk will help counter the Zinc poisoning from the galvanizing in the sheet metal that I had breathed in the day before. I don't know if it does or not but within just a few minutes of drinking the milk I felt so much better and thought that I might_*LIVE*_ so I believe that there is something to it!!!
I loved the strong emphasis on looking after oneself by using protective clothing. I loved the promotion of a step-by-step learning process. I loved the clear explanations of how to make welds by approaching the explanation from the Why? direction. I think I like your educational videos better than those dealing with the joys of dragging your dunny-on-wheels to Dingo Piss Creek with your diesel-electric battery-powered car. Onya John!
Good video John I’ve been slowly collecting all the gear to get back into a stick welding……. Largely on flea-bay Haven’t fired a shot in anger yet so this video is been very good interestingly when I bought my rods as a “recycled beginner” at WIA……. they sold me 4313……. I was assured they were the easiest ones to sort of get your eye back in again. Also, I’ve been reading that storage of rods is critical and in some cases I think low hydrogen rods once the packets been opened for six hours…… they need to be dried in an oven at 180° for half an hour prior to use ……. And there’s also theories about not storing certain rods of different categories in the same can….. I’ve also read that some rods once they’ve been wet……. Or high humidity storage Need to have the flux coating baked on again at even higher temperatures Also I’ve read that you can dry them out as many times as you need…… but they can only be re-baked once…… So theres that……. Maybe these things could be interesting content down the track for a part two……. There does seem to be quite a bit of detail around proper handling of rods…. I know my rod is very fussy
Started welding again recently. I installed a small attic exhaust fan into the wall right in front of my work table - blowing outside to suck the fumes out. Cost me $45 and 45 minutes to install. Best money I ever spent.
A dead simple way to set your starting amps for any job is to measure the stick diameter--the bare steel end (not the flux coating). Example: if the caliper reads 0.095", set your amps to 95. That's going to be the top end of your options with that particular stick. Run a test bead, and adjust the amps down a little if it's too hot for your preferred travel speed.
Hi John, Just revisited the Luton Airport car park fire... I concur as does a 50 yrs expert.. Uncle Tony's Garage here on the UA-cam site... He was called out by the ELECTRIC VIKING, who labelled him as a MUPPET... YET his analysis was spot on like yours... I was hoping you might want to check back on this whole sad affair as the Elec Viking gave no facts about why it was likely to be a EV or HYBRID.. Indeed he also referred to a car park fire in Australia a week before, which evidently, was due entirely to ICE vehicles ONLY... Last point it seems that a very rich VIP was the owner, who informed the flight desk as he checked in for his VIP meeting, that his vehicle was on fire and that it was expendible... But could someone deal with it...!! Geoff buys cars another UK UA-cam poster has also come up with the liklihood of it being a HYBRID DIESEL...
When I went to night school to first learn welding way back in the mid 1970's I was told to learn gas welding first as once you have mastered that all other processes will come easily, the instructor was certainly right on that as I did not lay hands on a tig welder for anther ten years and when I did it was easy it was also much easier to move to MMA (stick) welding having learnt gas as was mig and I only went to night school to learn welding as I had purchased an old mobile welding unit from my brother in law. Another thing that helps with welding is pistol shooting as that teaches you hand eye coordination and helps with getting steady hands, I don't mean go out and get a hand cannon an air pistol or 22 is best. Also practice with either hand as you never know when that is going to be needed.
Top notch advice there John. Professionally trained as a full time welder back in the 80s so been doing it for a bit. With regards to the 70xx over 60xx electrodes it is more about what you are welding. Rutile electodes are general purpose, but Low Hydrogen electrodes are used typically on low alloy steels that are used in cranes etc. We used them to prevent Hydrogen induced cold cracking. But 100% advice. Only two types of people weld, those that cover up and those that whished they did. So many people on YT you see tacking by closing their eyes. But eyelids I guess have UV blocking.
😂😂😂 speaking of overhead welding... back in my days working in metal fabrication, I once had a dirty big blob of molten slag drop down the back of my shirt, straight down my back, into the crack and rolled it's way all the way to the sack 😮🔥 what a surprise that was 😂😂
Probably the biggest thing to add to this video is wearing safety glasses all the time, including welding. So much potential to loose an eye as just happened a week ago at TAFE. The amount of times i lift my helmet at work and have a bit of slag fly off the weld towards me is crazy.
stick welding is hard AF. home hobbyists are better off starting with a cheap gas MIG setup w/ cheap co2 gas. i started off w/ a cigweld and a small co2 bottle. was able to build a motorcycle frame with it as my first welding project
My welding instructor died of brain cancer, he spent years welding galvanized metal. I know this is about stick welding but if instead you are MIG welding do not have air blowing across your weld as the gas shield will be blown away. I never had problems restriking an arc with 7013 rod in welding class. We used 7013 that was kept in a rod oven because the humidity is so high here. The class was designed for pipe welders looking to get certified.
I'm pushing 50 and I've never welded a thing, but I've wanted to for years. This video might be the boot up the arse I need to finally start. Thanks, John.
Many community colleges offer a welding course. Taking a class with a good teacher will highlight many things you'll never get from a book, a video, or self practice. It's the fastest and most satisfying way to learn, and it's not really that costly.
@@thedevilinthecircuit1414 Given your use of the term "community college", I'll assume that you are in the US? Unfortunately here in Oz, welding courses (and other trades) at the hobbyist or introductory level have become extremely hard to come by. I couldn't find anything in my state of Tasmania. So my only choice is to buy the gear John outlined and dive in. I'd prefer to go do a course and learn it through observation but it's just not available to the hobbyist where I live. You have to enrol in a professional welding course which is very expensive and totally overkill for a hobbyist. I wish I'd done it 20 years ago when such hobbyist trade courses were everywhere and cheap as chips.
So many things to think about for the beginner just to be safe let alone getting the perfect weld. Clamping down the work piece isn't an option unless it weighs a tonne. Don't take casual short cuts.
A big safety issue that needs to be added is risk of fire. Flying red hot BBs of steel will jump off the weld and can go a long way, especially when bouncing/rolling on a shop floor. Remove all flammables (paper, cardboard cartons, trash bins, flammable liquids/gasses, etc.) from the area. Cardboard cartons on the floor under benches are particularly happy to catch fire. Have an ABC-type fire extinguisher close by; ideally between you and your escape route.
Great video and not one shot of you welding because that's not what it's about. Much better than any other instructional video I have seen because you explain why. Clearly explained points and a little humour is a great mix..
I was as a little child looking on with anticipation. "When is it that man going to start welding?" I wondered. After the 20 minite mark, the little child in me was overcome with impatience...I fast forwarded eagerly seeking that moment of delight, then it all ended and there was no flash, no grunting of a man fighting with a sticking rod, and worst of all, no welding.😢
Seeing that lovely, shiny, new vice on the bench reminded me... Before learning to weld, go to a car boot sale and pick up a crusty old bench vice to use. After about 5 minutes of welding, a vice will be covered in weld spatter, the jaws will get damaged and then it won't be fit for anything else again so you might as well ruin an old vice rather than a new one, or one you already use for other things.
Worst thing these days is that everyone thinks their crusty old vice is a valuable antique made in the golden era of iron casting. Buggered if I can find a cheap one these days...
Really good vid, stick welding is a highly relevant trade skill that in some ways comes more into the technical and metallurgical science of weldng than say, the average MIG and some TIG welding does. For dissimilar metals, low hydrogen welding and hardfacing its still one of the cheapest ways often of getting complicated processes done. Personally, I'm not a great stick welder but I sort of get by with a lot of prep, patience and knowing what metals to use to glue it all together when anywhere else under different welding techniques will just not work or cost a lot of money. Also keep your electrodes 'dry', if they've been opened for a while get a cheap little benchtop toaster oven, set it to 150C and throw the sticks in there for a few hours to cook the moisture out of them.
Fireball tools have lots of brilliant easy to follow videos. One of which is weld sequence to keep it flat and square. Absolutely brilliant I have used it many times.
That was a really good intro to stick welding. I wish I had this when I started, as it would have saved me a lot of time, effort and cursing. I predominantly use 6013, thin metal and sheet metal in 5/64" 2.0mm and 3/32" 2.4mm on a very old 110v AC buzzbox welder here in Canada. If I need more penetration I do use 6011 3/32", and you are correct, the bead comes out unattractive but strong. Learning stick has been quite difficult but very rewarding, opening up a world of metal, where you can build once and use a lifetime.
I could watch John talk about welding all day, he does not talk at warp-speed and he clearly enunciates his words so even someone that that does not *_SPEAK AUSTRALIAN_* can understand him!!! 😄
Tips for buying. Transformer based welders give less control but last longer. IGBT welders give more control but don't last as long. If your a handyman welder skip stick welding and just buy a mig. Stick sucks at thin stuff that's why they invented tig. Handyman welder's only need IGBT welder its good enough for your use. If you are going to weld mainly light stuff 0-3mm set up for 0.6mm wire (car bodies/ trailers). If your going to weld mainly 3-6mm steel set up for 0.9mm wire (work benches, bullbars) . This matters cost wise when you purchase liners, tips, wire and ease of use etc. When you get some experience you can just use 0.9mm for everything. It's better to set up correctly for your usage from the start or you will just get discouraged. You cant really weld greater than 6mm steel effectively on 240v 15 amp handyman mode. You need pre-heating and multi-pass welding techniques. Past this point you really need a 3 phase unit and power set up BIG $$$. The only time i have used 6mm steel at home, is for 4x4 winch cradles and stuff like that. Most of the time its light stuff car bodies/trailers/gates/hanging hooks/plant stands/bolt removal etc. Good luck!
I'm looking forward to your series on: Tig Welding an EV Battery Cases after De-Greece with break cleaner. Using the Tesla's Own Battery for Cheap on road Welding ... Turning your Brand New Tesla into a Dog that goes Whooofffy!!
John, I'm so glad I found your channel before I take the cheapo inverter welder I just bought out of the box 😬I especially loved your videos about how to unalive myself while welding, and I will be showing my husband - right after I order the protective equipment you recommended. I'm subscribed and looking forward to binge watching your videos, whether the topic is of interest to me or not, your delivery is hilarious and it's so much easier to consume content that's as funny as this (I'm Brit, so totally get the humour!)
its mostly done for utube and social media. normally its done to get clearance in tight spaces and the right electrode angle (especially bending it at the end). but there is tons of bad welding video's from 3rd world countries where its done to look cool.
@tweake7175 Exactly. If someone wants to learn how to ignore every safety rule known to man, these 3rd world welding vids are the ones to watch. But don't mention it in the comments or you get flamed by almost all of them. Yep, I tried.
LOL, grinders... and then if ya do woodwork there's another for timber flappy disk, and another for the arbotec carving disk. the big 9 inch for big stuff... i have 7 grinders all up. 2mm electrodes are handy for thinner stuff also
Thanks for all the great advice. I did a bit of mig welding at school, which was back in the days when they taught that sort of thing - i.e the mid 1990s, and a day course on stick welding in about 1999. Not much since. Having a couple project that need done, I just bought a multi process welder not much different to that Vevo (which isn't available in NZ), and all the PPE you recommend. I did spend the extra to buy a Esab Sentinel A60 hood rather than a cheap one. Having used both manual ones and an early model auto one, I can say the extra $ was worth it, after spending an hour laying down beads on a bit of scrap. The way I'm going, 2-3 more hours of that, and I'll be ready to make something useful.
When I weld, all I can hear in my head is...relax and stop gripping the handpiece like Tarzan, my TAFE teacher used to say back in the 1980's. Gosh the welders now days are so beautiful and functional.
Thank you John, I really enjoy your shit by the way, especially the EV shit I'm in a divided home, but I stop here because my welding's birdshit and so Naturally Lets click on John Boy. I'm Not Disappointed, This is Not Disappointment, By the time you get to the Safety shit I'm nodding off but then you talk about Deadly Gas and how to make it - I'm totally Riveted John, as you seem to be heading toward Explosive or poison gas shells and Missiles ... or is that in the EV fire series
As someone who has suffered from magnetic eyes for years (from crap flying around in the air) I would recommend safety glasses are the first thing you put on when thinking of welding and the last thing you take off. Saves your eyes from grinding bits, wire wheel strands, and 316L electrode slag popping off and flying straight at you).. AND as most, even cheap, glasses stop something like 99% of UV (even if clear lens) if you flash yourself without the helmet on/down (like touching the electrode to the part accidentally) you only suffer colour spots and maybe a headache. Surprised they are not mentioned - they should be.
Cherry red plates and chillarders in oils carbon compo sits. Wooly jumpers a kanga welds angles grinders. 4.300 tauques up 78lb square inch. Head job engines purring sun wagons rolles royse ausi styles. You neuties beuties. Prawns balls chicken golden buts nuggets. X
Regarding Phosgene gas. There's an idiomatic expression in Portuguese, _esgazeado,_ (the one who has been gassed) and it's used on people with crazy erratic behavior. It's our linguistic heritage from WW1.
Very well explained! I personally think stick welding is the most challenging type of welding - if you want to produce high quality welds. For a hobby welder I am pretty good with TIG (I can handle all material thickness from 0.6mm on, all welding positions, full penetration, decent looking bead) but I still have problems with stick. Getting a nice root on a butt joint without burning through - difficult! On a good day I may succeed on 50% of my joints. On bad days I will blow hole after hole into the material or fail to get full penetration.
Wow, I didn't know there was so much to consider in metal welding. Awesome video, love the detail you went into. I wonder if you would consider doing a similar video on Mig welding and what is required for aluminum welding. Also, I hear about AC and DC in welding options, could you elaborate on these. Love these DIY series videos, please keep them coming.
Cheers John, greetings from Ireland.. welding is something I'd love to be competent at.. I'll certainly be rewatching these great points in the ole fat cave when I get all the gear together for some practice, with your presentation I think I could be encouraged to keep going.. Thanks..👍👍
So I'm just getting started welding. But i am a commercial fisherman with two aluminum boats. Is it a reasonable goal to be able to weld on a patch if i practice welding non professionally for a few years? I understand aluminum welding is a whole different level, so i guess my question is, is that a level a non professional, with maybe 1-2hrs a day, can achieve, or is it really only doable by professionals?
G’day John thank you for this tutorial it is very helpful I’m building a 7 1/4 gauge coal fired steam engine and after finishing the chassis for the tender I have to build a stainless still frame to hold the water so there is a lot of stick welding so it was good to listen to you explaining how to go about it and so helpful, anyway thanks again and I have subscribed regards John
Thanks John i have watched your welding videos of late the you have open my eyes with PPE especially about the UV protection you need and ventilation very helpful 👍
I tried my best to convey the importance of not using chlorinated brake clean on welding projects at work today and the DAMFI didn't think i was worth listening to so I pulled the wheels out of the mig.
Well lovely video mate Having been welding on the Farm as a kid of around 7 or 8 years old it appears that I’ve crossed a lot of fonts as bought up in this story Like everything we’ve done in a previous life with none or little warning signs etc Lucky some of us are still here Great advice as always John
Ha ha ! I learned stick welding in 1967 in high school stick hardening the tracks on the schools bulldozer. Then later i had to reapair a crack in the blade. That was my class. Also learned gas welding at the same time.
Step 1 go to tafe Step 2 learn to oxy weld Step 3 after 6 months of oxy then and only then pick up a stick welder and practice with low hydrogen rods Step 4 give it 3 months then go to GP rods
It doesn't matter how stable I stand etc, with my nerves I will still be trying to sign the job. ( I shake at the best of times, so I gave up welding ( badly )).
Everything Mr cadogan is saying here is good information MMA, smaw, ie stick welding he is exactly right this is the process you want to start with first because it will allow you to get used to carrying a puddle that is the molten metal at the end of The Burning electrode you want to stay on the edge of that molten metal puddle and you want to watch how far it spreads you don't want it to get out of control I do this stuff everyday it is my day job and there is a reason you want to watch the sides of the puddle which are called the toes the Leading Edge it's important in stick welding and this also applies to flux core because you have a slag system you do not want to let that puddle catch up with you because you will get something called inclusion that is bad and it will cause a very weak weld it means some of that molten slag will get trapped underneath the puddle and pushed into the joint this is called entrapment and on professional sites even though this is a do-it-yourselfer informative what needs to be known about that on professional sites they do X-rays and it will show up in the joints now there's some tolerable allowances for that in the US it's 1/8 inch in anyone axis if you got more than that it's bad preferably they don't want to see any inclusions IE entrapment and always make sure that you're well joint is reasonably clean because you will get a nasty contamination condition called porosity it looks like swiss cheese you don't want that anyway there's some good information in this video
As a person who has soldered electronics for most of the life, it was actually easier to learn TIG welding, because process is more similar to soldering. It is also easier to weld slower. I still cannot make decent stick welds - after I clean the weld from flux deposits, I usually find out that I have barely filled something. 😅 Nice video - maybe it will help me to become better stick welder.
Weld . . . grind . . . weld . . . grind . . . weld . . . grind . . . wash . . . rinse . . . repeat . . . after using up a complete box of electrodes and two boxes of grinding disks, what remains of those two chunks of steel still won't hold together. I know the feeling well.
@maifantasia3650 touching puddle with wolfram electrode is quite annoying. Finding holes under a flux deposit, trying to fill them, and getting them even bigger is another level of annoyance. 😁
@@wavyseahill - a kindred spirit. We have a professional welder on our team who repairs and fabricates our farm equipment and tooling. Which means that I'm just attempting to learn the art of welding as a hobby. I figure if Alex, from the movie _Flashdance,_ can do it so can I. Then again, my dance moves may be even worse than my welding technique. I wonder if John Cadogan has any _learn to dance_ videos coming up in the near future?
And as he got to the part about grinders I have four I have one with a wire wheel on it I have one with a hard Stone on it I have one with a cutting wheel on it and then I have a large angle grinder 9 inch for large surfaces in addition to that I also have are grinders the die grinder type I have a 90 degree die grinder with a ball end carbide bit in it I have another 90 degree die grinder with a roloc 3M sanding pad attachment and then I have a straight 180 degree die grinder with a tapered carbide bit in it you can never have too many grinders
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John, the absolute honesty you begin with is something that is lacking in thousands of youtube vids onya buddy for making that disclaimer right up front
After handyman stick welding for 60 years, doing all the wrong things, I guess I have been lucky because I am still here. Thanks John.
John, I have been welding at home since approximately 1970 and have had a crack at oxy, stick, mig and lately tig. Loved the way you presented this video. It was informative to the new and a great revision for us old farts. Thank you for the brake cleaner warning and the other safety tips, including the uv warning. Might have just tipped me into replacing my old respirator mask as well. Your workbench video and this one are showing your talent for teaching. Thank you. Terry
Great vid John! I own an arc welder and needed something like this to get me started. Now I’ll probably survive my first welding job.
I learned to weld as an automotive machinist (engine reconditioner). I can TIG weld cast aluminum really well and could even stick weld a cast iron head if it was cracked, given all the needed tools. I wouldn't be able to weld a trailer together and be confident about it. The guys who can TIG weld stainless and make it look like a machine did it are the ones who really impress me, a really nice stainless TIG weld can be like pornography.
Totally agreed. They are virtuosos...
6061 is the gold standard !
@@TonyWhite22351My airplane is being made from 6061. It is aluminum, not gold. Airplanes do cost like they were made from gold though. 😂
You're right about nice TIG welding. Whenever I'm feeling a bit frisky, I'll watch one of Bad Obsession Motorsport's Project Binky videos. If Nik started a TIG welding and bracket making channel on Only Fans, I'd subscribe to it.
Probably the best video of yours I've seen. Hope we see more how to videos from you. I'm surprised we didn't get to see any action footage of you stick welding.
Been 20 years since I moved from being a mechanic and boat builder to software engineering. Soon my son will be old enough to learn. I'll be certainly throwing a number of practice welds together with him before jumping to building a good little welding table as a starter project for us both to practice on.
All good advice, great even! Some was better than I got in a welding class in high school... back in the dark ages, when such courses were taught in normal schools. Not mentioned, but important: You need steady hands for arc welding, and it may help to sweep the arc a short distance from side to side, at right angles to the drag direction ( for an overall effect of _zigzag path,_ ) or sweep in small circles that overlap a bit on one side. *If you can't master all the simultaneous things needed in arc welding . . .*
*Use GAS WELDING instead. Then you can tolerate a small amount of rust by setting the torch to slightly "carburizing", or burn off oil by setting the torch to slightly "oxidizing". If the joints don't require maximum strength, you can use BRAZING or SILVER SOLDERING.* Those are MUCH simpler than arc welding, do not require such steady hands, generally require no nasty flux, and are fairly easy to master. Plus with Gas Welding (technically known as Oxy-Acetylene), you can also CUT steel almost like a plasma cutter, by using a cutting torch as the head.
*For light duty brazing, you don't even need acetylene* (C2H2, aka Ethyne), but I do recommend using a gas-blending torch type with added oxygen such as Oxy-Propane. The higher flame temperature just makes it all much easier than even the hottest blowtorch.
Silver Soldering (with "Hard Solder") is a very useful yet simple skill, as it can make quite strong joints on a wide variety of metals, and of course, it looks rather like silver. Unlike welding, both brazing and silver soldering are useful for joining dissimilar metals, such as steel to copper, steel to cast iron, and several other combinations. Gas torches also generate MUCH LESS ultraviolet light than electric arcs, and avoid the _fluxing fumes._
BUT, operating cost on gas torches is higher, especially the Oxy-Acetylene torches. In exchange for the higher cost, there is no Electric Satan chasing you on a motorcycle, and there is some simplicity plus convenience.
Back in the Stone age when I was in the USAF *_(early 1980's)_* I replaced parts of the floor in a *_VW Karmann Ghia_* by brazening in some pieces of galvanized sheet metal. Around *_02:00_*__the next morning __*_(That's 2:00AM to you non Military folks)_* I woke up as sick as a dog and had to go to the base hospital, I had a *_BAD_* headache along with the shakes and queasiness. The ER Dr. ask if I had eaten or drank anything or if I had been exposed to any chemicals. I explained to him that I had brazed galvanized sheet metal the day before and he came back with a glass full of a white liquid and told me to drink it all down without stopping. After drinking I said that tasted like MILK and he said that it was I asked what was in the milk and he said nothing it was just milk and that the calcium in milk will help counter the Zinc poisoning from the galvanizing in the sheet metal that I had breathed in the day before. I don't know if it does or not but within just a few minutes of drinking the milk I felt so much better and thought that I might_*LIVE*_ so I believe that there is something to it!!!
I loved the strong emphasis on looking after oneself by using protective clothing. I loved the promotion of a step-by-step learning process. I loved the clear explanations of how to make welds by approaching the explanation from the Why? direction. I think I like your educational videos better than those dealing with the joys of dragging your dunny-on-wheels to Dingo Piss Creek with your diesel-electric battery-powered car. Onya John!
Good video John
I’ve been slowly collecting all the gear to get back into a stick welding……. Largely on flea-bay
Haven’t fired a shot in anger yet so this video is been very good
interestingly when I bought my rods as a “recycled beginner” at WIA……. they sold me 4313……. I was assured they were the easiest ones to sort of get your eye back in again.
Also, I’ve been reading that storage of rods is critical and in some cases I think low hydrogen rods once the packets been opened for six hours…… they need to be dried in an oven at 180° for half an hour prior to use …….
And there’s also theories about not storing certain rods of different categories in the same can…..
I’ve also read that some rods once they’ve been wet……. Or high humidity storage Need to have the flux coating baked on again at even higher temperatures
Also I’ve read that you can dry them out as many times as you need…… but they can only be re-baked once……
So theres that…….
Maybe these things could be interesting content down the track for a part two…….
There does seem to be quite a bit of detail around proper handling of rods….
I know my rod is very fussy
Started welding again recently. I installed a small attic exhaust fan into the wall right in front of my work table - blowing outside to suck the fumes out. Cost me $45 and 45 minutes to install. Best money I ever spent.
It was funny as when the former prime minister Scomo did a weld without the face mask.
A dead simple way to set your starting amps for any job is to measure the stick diameter--the bare steel end (not the flux coating). Example: if the caliper reads 0.095", set your amps to 95. That's going to be the top end of your options with that particular stick. Run a test bead, and adjust the amps down a little if it's too hot for your preferred travel speed.
Hi John,
Just revisited the Luton Airport car park fire... I concur as does a 50 yrs expert.. Uncle Tony's Garage here on the UA-cam site...
He was called out by the ELECTRIC VIKING, who labelled him as a MUPPET... YET his analysis was spot on like yours...
I was hoping you might want to check back on this whole sad affair as the Elec Viking gave no facts about why it was likely to be a EV or HYBRID..
Indeed he also referred to a car park fire in Australia a week before, which evidently, was due entirely to ICE vehicles ONLY...
Last point it seems that a very rich VIP was the owner, who informed the flight desk as he checked in for his VIP meeting, that his vehicle was on fire and that it was expendible... But could someone deal with it...!!
Geoff buys cars another UK UA-cam poster has also come up with the liklihood of it being a HYBRID DIESEL...
When I went to night school to first learn welding way back in the mid 1970's I was told to learn gas welding first as once you have mastered that all other processes will come easily, the instructor was certainly right on that as I did not lay hands on a tig welder for anther ten years and when I did it was easy it was also much easier to move to MMA (stick) welding having learnt gas as was mig and I only went to night school to learn welding as I had purchased an old mobile welding unit from my brother in law. Another thing that helps with welding is pistol shooting as that teaches you hand eye coordination and helps with getting steady hands, I don't mean go out and get a hand cannon an air pistol or 22 is best. Also practice with either hand as you never know when that is going to be needed.
Top notch advice there John. Professionally trained as a full time welder back in the 80s so been doing it for a bit. With regards to the 70xx over 60xx electrodes it is more about what you are welding. Rutile electodes are general purpose, but Low Hydrogen electrodes are used typically on low alloy steels that are used in cranes etc. We used them to prevent Hydrogen induced cold cracking. But 100% advice. Only two types of people weld, those that cover up and those that whished they did. So many people on YT you see tacking by closing their eyes. But eyelids I guess have UV blocking.
😂😂😂 speaking of overhead welding... back in my days working in metal fabrication, I once had a dirty big blob of molten slag drop down the back of my shirt, straight down my back, into the crack and rolled it's way all the way to the sack 😮🔥 what a surprise that was 😂😂
Quality content once again sir
Probably the biggest thing to add to this video is wearing safety glasses all the time, including welding. So much potential to loose an eye as just happened a week ago at TAFE.
The amount of times i lift my helmet at work and have a bit of slag fly off the weld towards me is crazy.
Nice gay t-shirt John!!!
Are you stuck underground with the same t-shirt for the last month?
Excellent teacher with a good sense of humor. Very informative. Love the video, thanks
Would like you to warn about bystanders. Children and pets are probably at greatest risk. ( as in ".. BLIND AS A WELDERS DOG..." )
Thank you John, for such professional instructive videos.
stick welding is hard AF. home hobbyists are better off starting with a cheap gas MIG setup w/ cheap co2 gas. i started off w/ a cigweld and a small co2 bottle. was able to build a motorcycle frame with it as my first welding project
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"Dipping the tip of the electrode in the molten pool" wins the innuendo bingo for today 😂😂
My welding instructor died of brain cancer, he spent years welding galvanized metal. I know this is about stick welding but if instead you are MIG welding do not have air blowing across your weld as the gas shield will be blown away.
I never had problems restriking an arc with 7013 rod in welding class. We used 7013 that was kept in a rod oven because the humidity is so high here. The class was designed for pipe welders looking to get certified.
Ok.
I'm going to have to watch this at least twice.
And make notes.
I'm pushing 50 and I've never welded a thing, but I've wanted to for years. This video might be the boot up the arse I need to finally start. Thanks, John.
Many community colleges offer a welding course. Taking a class with a good teacher will highlight many things you'll never get from a book, a video, or self practice. It's the fastest and most satisfying way to learn, and it's not really that costly.
@@thedevilinthecircuit1414 Given your use of the term "community college", I'll assume that you are in the US? Unfortunately here in Oz, welding courses (and other trades) at the hobbyist or introductory level have become extremely hard to come by. I couldn't find anything in my state of Tasmania. So my only choice is to buy the gear John outlined and dive in. I'd prefer to go do a course and learn it through observation but it's just not available to the hobbyist where I live. You have to enrol in a professional welding course which is very expensive and totally overkill for a hobbyist. I wish I'd done it 20 years ago when such hobbyist trade courses were everywhere and cheap as chips.
weldning, it's like hot gluing stuff together with the fires of hell
How do you weld a Ning?
Similar background in welding. My welding has been described by a real welder as - looks like an iron bird sh$% on it, but should hold fine.
Combustibles and aerosol bottles should probably be in a closed locker for safety.
So many things to think about for the beginner just to be safe let alone getting the perfect weld. Clamping down the work piece isn't an option unless it weighs a tonne. Don't take casual short cuts.
Ok. Now you earned a subscription.
A big safety issue that needs to be added is risk of fire. Flying red hot BBs of steel will jump off the weld and can go a long way, especially when bouncing/rolling on a shop floor. Remove all flammables (paper, cardboard cartons, trash bins, flammable liquids/gasses, etc.) from the area. Cardboard cartons on the floor under benches are particularly happy to catch fire. Have an ABC-type fire extinguisher close by; ideally between you and your escape route.
Great video and not one shot of you welding because that's not what it's about. Much better than any other instructional video I have seen because you explain why. Clearly explained points and a little humour is a great mix..
Like playing snooker .....game of angles
I was as a little child looking on with anticipation. "When is it that man going to start welding?" I wondered. After the 20 minite mark, the little child in me was overcome with impatience...I fast forwarded eagerly seeking that moment of delight, then it all ended and there was no flash, no grunting of a man fighting with a sticking rod, and worst of all, no welding.😢
*_Patience,_* padawan!
Seeing that lovely, shiny, new vice on the bench reminded me... Before learning to weld, go to a car boot sale and pick up a crusty old bench vice to use.
After about 5 minutes of welding, a vice will be covered in weld spatter, the jaws will get damaged and then it won't be fit for anything else again so you might as well ruin an old vice rather than a new one, or one you already use for other things.
Worst thing these days is that everyone thinks their crusty old vice is a valuable antique made in the golden era of iron casting. Buggered if I can find a cheap one these days...
Grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't!
Having a soul really is overrated...
Okay. Now I'm educated and motivated. Now all I need is a project.
Thanks a lot for this lecture!
Ok.
I'm going to have to watch this at least twice.
And make notes.
Awesome video thanks John. Plenty of handy takeaways, especially the safety info.
With clear, concise instruction like that John, you could be a Tafe instructor old boy 👍👌
Really good vid, stick welding is a highly relevant trade skill that in some ways comes more into the technical and metallurgical science of weldng than say, the average MIG and some TIG welding does. For dissimilar metals, low hydrogen welding and hardfacing its still one of the cheapest ways often of getting complicated processes done. Personally, I'm not a great stick welder but I sort of get by with a lot of prep, patience and knowing what metals to use to glue it all together when anywhere else under different welding techniques will just not work or cost a lot of money.
Also keep your electrodes 'dry', if they've been opened for a while get a cheap little benchtop toaster oven, set it to 150C and throw the sticks in there for a few hours to cook the moisture out of them.
Thank you John. Always excellent content and very well done.
All the best,
Norm in Arizona
Fireball tools have lots of brilliant easy to follow videos. One of which is weld sequence to keep it flat and square. Absolutely brilliant I have used it many times.
Oooooo, shiny new welder!
That was a really good intro to stick welding. I wish I had this when I started, as it would have saved me a lot of time, effort and cursing. I predominantly use 6013, thin metal and sheet metal in 5/64" 2.0mm and 3/32" 2.4mm on a very old 110v AC buzzbox welder here in Canada. If I need more penetration I do use 6011 3/32", and you are correct, the bead comes out unattractive but strong. Learning stick has been quite difficult but very rewarding, opening up a world of metal, where you can build once and use a lifetime.
I could watch John talk about welding all day, he does not talk at warp-speed and he clearly enunciates his words so even someone that that does not *_SPEAK AUSTRALIAN_* can understand him!!! 😄
True, but your proficiency in sarcasm needs to be high. 😂
@@LTVoyager it's not sarcasm I was *_DEAD SERIOUS!_*
So many UA-camrs talk way to fast and *_they mumble!_*
@@onmyworkbench7000 Calm down. Take a breath. Stop capitalizing and holding everything. I was talking about John, not you. Sheesh.
Love your videos. I saw this written on a T-shirt: Welding is like sewing with fire....It think it is cool.
Tips for buying. Transformer based welders give less control but last longer. IGBT welders give more control but don't last as long. If your a handyman welder skip stick welding and just buy a mig. Stick sucks at thin stuff that's why they invented tig. Handyman welder's only need IGBT welder its good enough for your use.
If you are going to weld mainly light stuff 0-3mm set up for 0.6mm wire (car bodies/ trailers). If your going to weld mainly 3-6mm steel set up for 0.9mm wire (work benches, bullbars) . This matters cost wise when you purchase liners, tips, wire and ease of use etc. When you get some experience you can just use 0.9mm for everything. It's better to set up correctly for your usage from the start or you will just get discouraged.
You cant really weld greater than 6mm steel effectively on 240v 15 amp handyman mode. You need pre-heating and multi-pass welding techniques. Past this point you really need a 3 phase unit and power set up BIG $$$. The only time i have used 6mm steel at home, is for 4x4 winch cradles and stuff like that. Most of the time its light stuff car bodies/trailers/gates/hanging hooks/plant stands/bolt removal etc. Good luck!
I'm looking forward to your series on:
Tig Welding an EV Battery Cases after De-Greece with break cleaner.
Using the Tesla's Own Battery for Cheap on road Welding ...
Turning your Brand New Tesla into a Dog that goes Whooofffy!!
John, I'm so glad I found your channel before I take the cheapo inverter welder I just bought out of the box 😬I especially loved your videos about how to unalive myself while welding, and I will be showing my husband - right after I order the protective equipment you recommended. I'm subscribed and looking forward to binge watching your videos, whether the topic is of interest to me or not, your delivery is hilarious and it's so much easier to consume content that's as funny as this (I'm Brit, so totally get the humour!)
I have noticed that in all the stick welding in India that they bend the stick at about 45 degrees in the middle so they are closer to the material.
its mostly done for utube and social media. normally its done to get clearance in tight spaces and the right electrode angle (especially bending it at the end). but there is tons of bad welding video's from 3rd world countries where its done to look cool.
@tweake7175 Exactly. If someone wants to learn how to ignore every safety rule known to man, these 3rd world welding vids are the ones to watch. But don't mention it in the comments or you get flamed by almost all of them. Yep, I tried.
LOL, grinders... and then if ya do woodwork there's another for timber flappy disk, and another for the arbotec carving disk. the big 9 inch for big stuff... i have 7 grinders all up. 2mm electrodes are handy for thinner stuff also
Thanks for all the great advice. I did a bit of mig welding at school, which was back in the days when they taught that sort of thing - i.e the mid 1990s, and a day course on stick welding in about 1999. Not much since. Having a couple project that need done, I just bought a multi process welder not much different to that Vevo (which isn't available in NZ), and all the PPE you recommend. I did spend the extra to buy a Esab Sentinel A60 hood rather than a cheap one. Having used both manual ones and an early model auto one, I can say the extra $ was worth it, after spending an hour laying down beads on a bit of scrap. The way I'm going, 2-3 more hours of that, and I'll be ready to make something useful.
When I weld, all I can hear in my head is...relax and stop gripping the handpiece like Tarzan, my TAFE teacher used to say back in the 1980's. Gosh the welders now days are so beautiful and functional.
From a 45 year Fitter Welder John, good stuff 👍👍
Thank you John, I really enjoy your shit by the way, especially the EV shit I'm in a divided home, but I stop here because my welding's birdshit and so Naturally Lets click on John Boy. I'm Not Disappointed, This is Not Disappointment, By the time you get to the Safety shit I'm nodding off but then you talk about Deadly Gas and how to make it - I'm totally Riveted John, as you seem to be heading toward Explosive or poison gas shells and Missiles ... or is that in the EV fire series
As someone who has suffered from magnetic eyes for years (from crap flying around in the air) I would recommend safety glasses are the first thing you put on when thinking of welding and the last thing you take off. Saves your eyes from grinding bits, wire wheel strands, and 316L electrode slag popping off and flying straight at you).. AND as most, even cheap, glasses stop something like 99% of UV (even if clear lens) if you flash yourself without the helmet on/down (like touching the electrode to the part accidentally) you only suffer colour spots and maybe a headache. Surprised they are not mentioned - they should be.
Cherry red plates and chillarders in oils carbon compo sits. Wooly jumpers a kanga welds angles grinders. 4.300 tauques up 78lb square inch. Head job engines purring sun wagons rolles royse ausi styles. You neuties beuties. Prawns balls chicken golden buts nuggets. X
Regarding Phosgene gas.
There's an idiomatic expression in Portuguese, _esgazeado,_ (the one who has been gassed) and it's used on people with crazy erratic behavior. It's our linguistic heritage from WW1.
Very well explained! I personally think stick welding is the most challenging type of welding - if you want to produce high quality welds. For a hobby welder I am pretty good with TIG (I can handle all material thickness from 0.6mm on, all welding positions, full penetration, decent looking bead) but I still have problems with stick. Getting a nice root on a butt joint without burning through - difficult! On a good day I may succeed on 50% of my joints. On bad days I will blow hole after hole into the material or fail to get full penetration.
Wow, I didn't know there was so much to consider in metal welding. Awesome video, love the detail you went into. I wonder if you would consider doing a similar video on Mig welding and what is required for aluminum welding. Also, I hear about AC and DC in welding options, could you elaborate on these. Love these DIY series videos, please keep them coming.
Virgil Tracy from the Thunderbirds? FAB.
Thank you for this very good explanation. I was also welding with not much protection…
Cheers John, greetings from Ireland.. welding is something I'd love to be competent at.. I'll certainly be rewatching these great points in the ole fat cave when I get all the gear together for some practice, with your presentation I think I could be encouraged to keep going.. Thanks..👍👍
So I'm just getting started welding. But i am a commercial fisherman with two aluminum boats. Is it a reasonable goal to be able to weld on a patch if i practice welding non professionally for a few years? I understand aluminum welding is a whole different level, so i guess my question is, is that a level a non professional, with maybe 1-2hrs a day, can achieve, or is it really only doable by professionals?
There is genuine welding and then there is sticking bits of metal together...until now, I have done the latter. I'm off to practice. Thanks John.
I have four angel grinders in my shop. Not bragging, just fact.
G’day John thank you for this tutorial it is very helpful I’m building a 7 1/4 gauge coal fired steam engine and after finishing the chassis for the tender I have to build a stainless still frame to hold the water so there is a lot of stick welding so it was good to listen to you explaining how to go about it and so helpful, anyway thanks again and I have subscribed regards John
This is very useful to me. My welding is terrible!
Thanks John i have watched your welding videos of late the you have open my eyes with PPE especially about the UV protection you need and ventilation very helpful 👍
The main concern I have about diy welding is the potential long term effects to one's eyesight resulting from prolongued exposure.
I tried my best to convey the importance of not using chlorinated brake clean on welding projects at work today and the DAMFI didn't think i was worth listening to so I pulled the wheels out of the mig.
Well lovely video mate
Having been welding on the Farm as a kid of around 7 or 8 years old it appears that I’ve crossed a lot of fonts as bought up in this story
Like everything we’ve done in a previous life with none or little warning signs etc
Lucky some of us are still here
Great advice as always John
Ha ha ! I learned stick welding in 1967 in high school stick hardening the tracks on the schools bulldozer. Then later i had to reapair a crack in the blade. That was my class. Also learned gas welding at the same time.
Awesome! I've done all of those dumb things. Now there's hope.
Step 1 go to tafe
Step 2 learn to oxy weld
Step 3 after 6 months of oxy then and only then pick up a stick welder and practice with low hydrogen rods
Step 4 give it 3 months then go to GP rods
Top job, thanks John.
It doesn't matter how stable I stand etc, with my nerves I will still be trying to sign the job. ( I shake at the best of times, so I gave up welding ( badly )).
Everything Mr cadogan is saying here is good information MMA, smaw, ie stick welding he is exactly right this is the process you want to start with first because it will allow you to get used to carrying a puddle that is the molten metal at the end of The Burning electrode you want to stay on the edge of that molten metal puddle and you want to watch how far it spreads you don't want it to get out of control I do this stuff everyday it is my day job and there is a reason you want to watch the sides of the puddle which are called the toes the Leading Edge it's important in stick welding and this also applies to flux core because you have a slag system you do not want to let that puddle catch up with you because you will get something called inclusion that is bad and it will cause a very weak weld it means some of that molten slag will get trapped underneath the puddle and pushed into the joint this is called entrapment and on professional sites even though this is a do-it-yourselfer informative what needs to be known about that on professional sites they do X-rays and it will show up in the joints now there's some tolerable allowances for that in the US it's 1/8 inch in anyone axis if you got more than that it's bad preferably they don't want to see any inclusions IE entrapment and always make sure that you're well joint is reasonably clean because you will get a nasty contamination condition called porosity it looks like swiss cheese you don't want that anyway there's some good information in this video
I already thought you forgot. Been waiting and waiting. Thank you
When doing full penetration welds do you have to remove flux after each pass?
Grate video really enjoyed it as I am looking to leaning to weld question can you please do a video on mig welding please thank you
This might be a dumb question but do you turn the machine off before adjusting the temp
Eeew ! welding !! if you get welders, you can get rid of them with the correct medication.
As a person who has soldered electronics for most of the life, it was actually easier to learn TIG welding, because process is more similar to soldering. It is also easier to weld slower. I still cannot make decent stick welds - after I clean the weld from flux deposits, I usually find out that I have barely filled something. 😅
Nice video - maybe it will help me to become better stick welder.
Weld . . . grind . . . weld . . . grind . . . weld . . . grind . . . wash . . . rinse . . . repeat . . . after using up a complete box of electrodes and two boxes of grinding disks, what remains of those two chunks of steel still won't hold together. I know the feeling well.
@maifantasia3650 touching puddle with wolfram electrode is quite annoying. Finding holes under a flux deposit, trying to fill them, and getting them even bigger is another level of annoyance. 😁
@@wavyseahill - a kindred spirit.
We have a professional welder on our team who repairs and fabricates our farm equipment and tooling. Which means that I'm just attempting to learn the art of welding as a hobby. I figure if Alex, from the movie _Flashdance,_ can do it so can I. Then again, my dance moves may be even worse than my welding technique.
I wonder if John Cadogan has any _learn to dance_ videos coming up in the near future?
@@maifantasia3650 I hope that he has. 🙂
And as he got to the part about grinders I have four I have one with a wire wheel on it I have one with a hard Stone on it I have one with a cutting wheel on it and then I have a large angle grinder 9 inch for large surfaces in addition to that I also have are grinders the die grinder type I have a 90 degree die grinder with a ball end carbide bit in it I have another 90 degree die grinder with a roloc 3M sanding pad attachment and then I have a straight 180 degree die grinder with a tapered carbide bit in it you can never have too many grinders
I don’t like stick welding, but this was an excellent introduction to the process for those who want to or need to do this.
You just jigg a gates and spots tacks removes from jigs and rounds numbero ones
How about a gas-less mig video. Would be great to see how they worked.
Nice Dr. Evil impersonation, John.
Really appreciate these beginner welding video.
My Sheila is a pipe welder…she says you’re doing ok
can you do a addon to this with small inverter stick welders as well
Watched many hours of how to weld. You're the first one that made sense to me. Thank you 😊
Glad I could help