GMAM 4128 climbs Montagu Pass solo with heavy passenger train - March 2002
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- We start with mighty Garratt GMAM 4128 arriving at George hauling the heavy Union Limited tour train solo. Whilst she takes water and coal at George, we set up on the spectacular Montagu Pass to watch the surefooted Garratt climb the steep grades. We then move on to Camfer to see the Garratt arrive and service, before setting off again towards Oudtshoorn.
Put myself through varsity as a stoker. Occasionally worked on GMAM's out of Pietermaritzburg. Amazing engines.
Would have been amazing working the lines out of PMB...
Gotta love big South African steam. Thanks for posting. Two big thumbs up!
There's nothing like a big Garratt on Montagu!
Garratts make a distinctive sound.
They certainly do! 4 cylinders and only one way out...
Can speak nice with firemen though mountains
My old dad built the boilers on most of these Garratts,I still live 500 yards from Beyer Peacocks old site.Brings back many childhood memories.
He did a great job, those Garratts are amazing machines...
is that sunny Gorton you live in.
@@scotchegg3419 FOR MY SINS
Morning thanx it is so beautiful
It was worth the climb!
Yes it brings back memories for me
Great memories
Did this in 2000, an unforgettable experience.
The Garratt was a bit sick on the pass and we had a banker. (19D?)
Stood in the grass at Camfer for a run by, to overhear two passers by discuss Cape Cobras - Oh-Oh!
Dreadfully sick at Oudshoorn, after eating an Ostrich steak with prawn sauce. Prawn sauce a bad idea in the desert... Missed the whole of the next day while lying in our compartment with my eyes closed.
Lunch in Protea, the restaurant car, was always wonderful.
Stood on a rock at the red wall and saw a short, fat snake skin at my feet... Told it was probably from a Puff Adder. How long have you got if you get bitten? About an hour. Is there any serum on the train, miles from anywhere? Er, no, so don't step on one.
What a great trip!
I wonder if this beautiful stock (pre-war blue train?) still survives?
:) yes don't step on a Puff Adder... Your final hour would not be pleasant!
Steam over the pass is amazing, love that trip. Some of that coaching stock is still running with Ceres Rail now.
I had three meals a day in Protea on our rail safari in 1991. Great food and service.
Jouw filmpjes zijn mooi als altijd, dikke duim omhoog van een Garrat fan uit Nederland, baie dankie Trevor. (Ook voor je andere filmpje met de GO op de Caledon lijn, vet geniet was dat)
Thanks Tom, glad you enjoyed them!
Oh my WORD! Just LISTEN to those double-beats as she claws her way up the pass - WHAT a locomotive the GMAM/GAMMAT/KRAP (CRAB) was in its day....
UFEZELA she? it is a machine, an inanimate object not a female...
Ships have always been referred to as "SHE" so why not locomotives? They have a personality just like a ship.
It sounded amazing!
What a locomotive. Like a horse on rails
A mountain climber for sure!
I love this steam locomotive model
+Umesh Sukode the GMAMs are awesome!
Great sound effects
Thanks! I wish I could hear that again...
They are not sound effects, boet. They are the real thing.
I see they're running it technically 'backwards'. I remember reading they did this with the Garratts in NSW Australia as a way of making conditions in the cab cooler and with reduced smoke, especially through tunnels, so much so that some were fitted with dual controls so the engineer could face the direction of travel no matter how they were running. Did they do this on the SA ones at all?
We still have 6029 running here in NSW. An impressive sight, too, very similar although 6029 was one of the so-called super Garratts here that had some modifications made that resulted in even more power. Also has a mechanical fireman and some other 'modern' features for a steam engine, although that makes the cab surprisingly noisy when operating.
Steeltrap we also have 6040, however they no longer run
@@garypeter5110 6029 is the only one running, owned by the Canberra Railway Museum.
They usually ran "backwards" in SA. They didn't have dual controls, the driver sat sort of sideways. These GMAM Garratts did have mechanical stokers.
Okay,
At one point I owned a HO set of this train. I knew that it was from SA, but I did know what train it was. Now I understand why it did go for such crazy price when I sold.
Would have been a great model
I wish I could have done this
😕 I wish I could do it again!
Great stuff
Thanks!
Most unusual looking locomotive the bayer garratt, very powerful loco basically it is two loco,s in one.
Thanks Barry - yes they are very unusual looking. They are great to see in service on the mountains where they belong!
On curves the weight of the locomotive is carried to the inside. With our American style articulateds, the weight tends to be thrown to the outside. Oher than stability, there are other benefits. After seeing them for the first time some while back, I've become accustomed to them and I now find them handsome and extremely interesting in action.
look up the triplex its 3 trains in 1 lol
Wonderful
Thanks!
Excellent photography.Is it a metregauge.
+Vishwajit Pawar it's 3'6" (1067 'm) gauge
Hello steamfreak3450, I am working on a podcast episode about Beyer-Garratts and wanted to ask if it would be possible to feature some of your excellent video clips? I would of course credit and link back to your channel. Please do let me know, all the best.
You can contact me on loco@steamfreak.com, happy to discuss.
How do people BREATHE in that tunnel with all that smoke??
+David Rohrer they inhale the glorious aroma of coal smoke!
You slam the windows shut as soon as you see the tunnel coming up ! I grew up as the daughter of a 'spoorie' (S.A.S. werker) and all our vacations were by train ... I'm now 73, so lots of railroad trips (and living near the shunting yards and train stations) ... in late forties, fifties, and sixties. I LOVE steam engines.
Did the engineer not blow the whistle just before the tunnel... somebody would jump up and slam the window down!
I'm... confused.
Is it going forwards or backwards?
+ziiofswe it's a Garratt running bunker first...
Yeah, hadn't seen one before, had to read up on them... cool construction idea.
Baie daar gery toe ek in George skool gegaan het. Verlang nou sommer
Such a beautiful area - such a pity the Knysna line is still closed.
Nog altyd gese: Garratts vat nie nonsense nie.
+hawkeye0248 Ja en klink ook lekker!
😎
Of to be back there now...
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Nou praat jy!
Thanks!
Thanks!
I'm pretty sure that's diesel smoke not Cole
+Jesse Heilman that was definitely coal smoke! It smelled great!
It's coal. With a few experimental exceptions South African Steam all used coal.
look in the tender its full of cole
I don't remember making this comment or what prompted it I'm not looking for trouble but you can clearly see That the tender is a fuel tank and directly behind it is a fuel tanker Tell me which part of this video shows coal in the tender
4128 baie op haar gewerk saam met Piet Steyn 1974 baie goed gestoom
Klink lekker. Baie mooi loko!
Poor passengers when they were in the tunnel.
Ja, lekker black smoke! The scent of coal smoke... Magnificent!
@@steamfreak
Magnificent, but not exactly good for your lungs. Enjoy responsibly.
For me personally, that means I can't really enjoy it much at all. I used to be asthmatic and while I don't get attacks anymore my lungs still haven't fully recovered. And since I'm getting into 7.5" gauge that means I'll have to go with Propane should I ever eventually buy or build a live steamer.
2:01 CO2 for you too.
It's just so beautiful!
WhAT A FANTATIC HERITAGE. This could have been a major tourist attrction. Thanks to the ANC's incompotance we have nothing - nothing at all. What a shame that these and other reminders of the past fell into the hands of total incompotance and don't care. Shame on you Nelson and your cronies
Yes, such a great shame... 🙁
A lone sar class 34 or 37 would have outperformed this GMAM garratt. As these giants aged they seemed to lose much of their pulling power. (2022.03.18-17:39-socalled South Africa)
But the Garratt sounds so much better!
can someone explain this set up to me ? the loco looks reversed, and what's that added thing up front? sorry, just recently took a liking to old steam trains so i don't know proper terminology lol
Hi Richard, the locomotive is a Garratt type, an articulated design with driving wheels at each end with a suspended boiler in the middle. The bunker at the leading end carries coal (and sometimes water), and the tank at the trailing end (in this video) carries water. The loco is running bunker-first (backwards) in this case, as there are many tunnels on the pass, and it keeps the exhaust behind the driver's cab.
Op haar gewerk 4128 voorbaai saam met Piet Steyn baie goed gestoom no 2 en 5 tonnel baie gas in cab gekry
Only thing more impressive would have been 2 or even 3 of those beasts together. :-)
Well, there's always the twin fired, twin boilered 0-6-2+2-4-4-2+2-6-0 Franco.
I've seen 2 go up there, very impressive!
All that black smoke shows incomplete combustion - i.e. not enough air or too much coal. Looks like poor firing. A beautiful sight otherwise.
You're right! I guess with a mechanical stoker it's easy to just keep the coal rolling!
Hmm. I so often read this comment, made from the comfort and anonymity of a chair in front of a computer. If you have 10 years daily experience firing a coal burning loco under all conditions then I will respect you. Do you?
Some time they ask for black smoke pass or some time bad coal but I was working on 4128 and she was steams very good
@@ferdiemeyer5282 Thank you, Freddie. I happily withdraw “poor firing” - it’s a job demanding skill, strength and stamina none of which I possess. Hats off to you!
Gaswagen.
Yep. Amazing machines!