I got one of these just before the lockdown. When I first set it up I couldn't help thinking it was a seriously half baked solution, however I shouldn't have bean so dismissive of it as it went on to serve me extremely well for about 3 years. With a T300 wheel and T3PA pedals mounted to it I must say it was probably the most fun I ever had sim racing.
Was it able to handle the T300RS at full mast? i heard it goes above some entry level DD wheels nm torque wise so im kinda wondering if it doesnt just completely rock the entire thing through a corner like eau rouge
@@Boofski No problems with a T300, actually no problems with a TS-PC Racer either, which tops out at 6.5 to 6.9 Nm. It's your weight when you sit in it that stabilises it. Sure it'll flex a bit, but no so much that it'll ruin your driving..
Still to this day I use my Playseat challenge, now heavily modified. I started exactly as you showed, out of the box+ a Logi G29. Then I wanted a more premium setup, that I still need to fold away in my tiny flat. I have a CSL DD 8Nm + CSL pedals with Loadcell brake on it. The company indigo lime sells a reinforcement kit for the PS challenge, that makes it strong enough for a 8Nm DD wheelbase + Loadcell brake. I even modded it with Bass shakers, 2x 50W, one in the backrest and 1 under the butt, and 2x25W at the Throttle and Brake pedal. It’s so amazing! It’s still the playseat with equipment of 1.500€ bolted to it! I love it so much and I can’t emphasize enough how often I use it and fold it up again! My next upgrade is a full aluminum profile rig but that’s many years away, the PS challenge is more than capable for me!
I've been thinking of this, to replace my custom built office chair setup, with alu parts and extrusions. My main concern with this seat, is the basshakers not transmitting good enough feedback through the seat cloth. How have you mounted yours and how does it feel like?
Sounds amazing! 😅 i just ordered my first rig yesterday and im wondering if i should get Next level racing HF8 Haptic gaming pad for my chair? Have you any experience or heard about this?
Sounds amazing! 😅 i just ordered my first rig yesterday and im wondering if i should get Next level racing HF8 Haptic gaming pad for my chair? Have you any experience or heard about this?
Ive had my playseat challenge for about 4-5 years... Currently with a csl dd, shifter, handbrake, and buttkicker ... I climb in and out of my seat. Its still foldable too but nowadays i keep it stationary. But was very convenient when i had to move last year. There is a flex but its expected. Btw- youll quickly learn to secure the wheel base after getting smacked in the face lol.
I had my Heusinkveld Sprints and Fanatec CSL DD 8nm attached to this for 9 months or so. Fully agree, folding it with these was a nightmare, but the challenge held up well. I’m going to hold on to it and let my kids use it in the next few years.
I did add about 8 zip ties to secure the pedal plate to the rail and more zip ties beef up the attachments for the lower pedal rail. Mainly for peace of mind, no one wants their pedals falling off 57 mins into an hour long race.
I've got a dd1 attached to mine. I don't have much space available, so this is the best option. It holds the dd1 really well considering what it was designed for. Just strengthened it up with some cable ties and hardly any noticeable flex
@Robert-pq3sb the straps that come with it keep the pedal in place but the straps BARELY make it around the pedal. I use lashing straps for a more secure fit. Under heavy braking, the seat will lift a bit. There's a little movement when the wheel exerts max torque. The seat flexed a bit but after tightening the straps to ensure a snug fit everything started feeling more secure. I detach the pedal section when folding it up just for convenience. When exiting the wheel, the locking mechanism that keeps the arm up when it's lifted ended up breaking.
I have a different version of the playseat that has 6 seating positions. Works great for not having space for a dedicated rig. My only complaint is the adjustment locks, add some locktite or else they loosen with repeated latching
Great vid. I started with a G29 on mine, before upgrading to a Logitech DD pro. Whilst that is pushing what the challenge is capable of, it still works well. Care needs to be taken with the additional weight when getting in and out, but it's held up great for over a year. There are several companies offering upgrades to improve stability, which are well worth considering if you try a stronger wheel on it.
I’m using similar now but how you fix your pedals onto the frame ? I used some aluminium square pipes to stack it high enough. But thinking of make it better but have no idea to start with
@@dannyleeracing Yeah, it is taking it a bit to the limit, has to be said. The seat needs to be braced at certain points, hence the Indigolime kit, which is relatively pricey tbh,, but it works really well. But it also includes the parts to fit the Sprint pedals too. To fold it, there are few more steps like loosening a couple of parts, putting the shifter in 6th, retracting the Sprints, but it does not take long. I set it up next to my desk and have an Ergotron monitor arm for my 43" so that it just swings over and viola! I need the space in my cave so cannot have a dedicated rig and I simply cannot live without my Sprints and DD wheel, so this is working perfectly for me.
Hey Danny, any idea if the Challenge plate will take a 90mm or 65 mill hole pattern? Asetek la Prima coming (Big thanks for your video on the deal). I'd love to use the Asetek tilt mount, just not sure it'll fit. I know the bottom mount has a Fanatec pattern but that thing is quite large and wide for my liking.
I have used one of these since gt5 on the ps3, absolutely clutch when you have limited space. Can literally be put in a closet when you’re not using it. It’s not meant to be the end all be all of rigs but what it is meant to be, its mega at. I’ve even bought a few sets for friends over the years and they loved them.
It's still not as rigid as a dedicated seat, but this is still a great solution for those who have to live in compact rooms, especially in the apartment.
Been racing about a year now, as I don’t have room for a fixed rig. Started with a T300RSGT but just upgraded that to a Logitech G Pro DD wheel and pedals. You hit the nail on the head saying it moves but not enough to be offputting, and I get consistent times Just take more care when folding up, as the new wheel and pedals weigh about 3 times the Thrustmaster ones 😅
The best chair like this right now is the the next level racing pro. Its so good that it can hold my dd+ and sure move a bit but succesfully felt so good snd so comfortable due to the padding on the seat. Not to mention each part doesnt need to be screwed or unscrewed its so simple ro move and adjust. While being uncredibly strong its the only chesper one like this I would suggest. Some peolle eant the bigger bois for ffb and want to pay extta for the wheel and base while saving money on the rig and if thats you do what im saying. The ffb from the dd+ is so good thst the slight loss from movement is still so much better then even a dd pro on a stiff great rig.
You can mount a CSL DD to it, no problem. You can mount a Moza R9 to it, no problem. You can mount a Moza R5 to it but you'll need the moza 4-pin to 3 pin mount adaptor plate
Boy do I feel dumb. Got this as a hand me down and never realized that the wheel support swings. I do have a question for everyone: I am a shorter person and if I completely lie back, the top of the seat pushes my head forward. Anyone has a fix?
I got one of these just before the lockdown. When I first set it up I couldn't help thinking it was a seriously half baked solution, however I shouldn't have bean so dismissive of it as it went on to serve me extremely well for about 3 years. With a T300 wheel and T3PA pedals mounted to it I must say it was probably the most fun I ever had sim racing.
Good to hear!! About to set it up exactly the same way
Was it able to handle the T300RS at full mast? i heard it goes above some entry level DD wheels nm torque wise so im kinda wondering if it doesnt just completely rock the entire thing through a corner like eau rouge
@@Boofski No problems with a T300, actually no problems with a TS-PC Racer either, which tops out at 6.5 to 6.9 Nm. It's your weight when you sit in it that stabilises it. Sure it'll flex a bit, but no so much that it'll ruin your driving..
@@slaphead90 thanks for the reply, a bit of flex I don’t mind as long as it doesn’t feel like it’s falling apart lol so good to know
Still to this day I use my Playseat challenge, now heavily modified. I started exactly as you showed, out of the box+ a Logi G29.
Then I wanted a more premium setup, that I still need to fold away in my tiny flat. I have a CSL DD 8Nm + CSL pedals with Loadcell brake on it. The company indigo lime sells a reinforcement kit for the PS challenge, that makes it strong enough for a 8Nm DD wheelbase + Loadcell brake.
I even modded it with Bass shakers, 2x 50W, one in the backrest and 1 under the butt, and 2x25W at the Throttle and Brake pedal. It’s so amazing! It’s still the playseat with equipment of 1.500€ bolted to it! I love it so much and I can’t emphasize enough how often I use it and fold it up again!
My next upgrade is a full aluminum profile rig but that’s many years away, the PS challenge is more than capable for me!
Do you think you’d be able to use the 5nm CSL DD without reinforcement?
@@argarcini yes. 5Nm would be fine but really the limit. With the reinforcement 8 is the limit I feel.
I've been thinking of this, to replace my custom built office chair setup, with alu parts and extrusions.
My main concern with this seat, is the basshakers not transmitting good enough feedback through the seat cloth.
How have you mounted yours and how does it feel like?
Sounds amazing! 😅 i just ordered my first rig yesterday and im wondering if i should get Next level racing HF8 Haptic gaming pad for my chair? Have you any experience or heard about this?
Sounds amazing! 😅 i just ordered my first rig yesterday and im wondering if i should get Next level racing HF8 Haptic gaming pad for my chair? Have you any experience or heard about this?
Ive had my playseat challenge for about 4-5 years... Currently with a csl dd, shifter, handbrake, and buttkicker ... I climb in and out of my seat. Its still foldable too but nowadays i keep it stationary. But was very convenient when i had to move last year. There is a flex but its expected.
Btw- youll quickly learn to secure the wheel base after getting smacked in the face lol.
That's a great length of time to have it as your main rig, thanks for contributing your experiences!
I had my Heusinkveld Sprints and Fanatec CSL DD 8nm attached to this for 9 months or so. Fully agree, folding it with these was a nightmare, but the challenge held up well. I’m going to hold on to it and let my kids use it in the next few years.
I did add about 8 zip ties to secure the pedal plate to the rail and more zip ties beef up the attachments for the lower pedal rail. Mainly for peace of mind, no one wants their pedals falling off 57 mins into an hour long race.
I'm impressed and surprised how multiple people have run Sprints on it!@@topchris175
I've got a dd1 attached to mine. I don't have much space available, so this is the best option. It holds the dd1 really well considering what it was designed for. Just strengthened it up with some cable ties and hardly any noticeable flex
All hail the Direct Drive Playseat Challenge master race!
I maxed out mine with a t300 + T-LCM with the stiffest springs. Works perfectly! From folded to playing in under 30s everytime😅
Does the seat flex a lot? Do the pedals move?
@Robert-pq3sb the straps that come with it keep the pedal in place but the straps BARELY make it around the pedal. I use lashing straps for a more secure fit.
Under heavy braking, the seat will lift a bit.
There's a little movement when the wheel exerts max torque.
The seat flexed a bit but after tightening the straps to ensure a snug fit everything started feeling more secure.
I detach the pedal section when folding it up just for convenience.
When exiting the wheel, the locking mechanism that keeps the arm up when it's lifted ended up breaking.
I have a different version of the playseat that has 6 seating positions. Works great for not having space for a dedicated rig. My only complaint is the adjustment locks, add some locktite or else they loosen with repeated latching
absolutely love mine!! only wish it came with pre drilled holes for the pedals..
Great vid. I started with a G29 on mine, before upgrading to a Logitech DD pro. Whilst that is pushing what the challenge is capable of, it still works well. Care needs to be taken with the additional weight when getting in and out, but it's held up great for over a year. There are several companies offering upgrades to improve stability, which are well worth considering if you try a stronger wheel on it.
I love my Chellenge. Fitted with Heusinkvled Sprints, Moza R9, SH Shifter and DSD button box with the IndigoLime bracing kit. It still folds away BTW!
I’m using similar now but how you fix your pedals onto the frame ? I used some aluminium square pipes to stack it high enough. But thinking of make it better but have no idea to start with
That's a stacked seat! Amazing list, and thanks for chipping in with your experiences. Anything unusual you've had to do to accommodate all that?
@@dannyleeracing Yeah, it is taking it a bit to the limit, has to be said. The seat needs to be braced at certain points, hence the Indigolime kit, which is relatively pricey tbh,, but it works really well. But it also includes the parts to fit the Sprint pedals too. To fold it, there are few more steps like loosening a couple of parts, putting the shifter in 6th, retracting the Sprints, but it does not take long. I set it up next to my desk and have an Ergotron monitor arm for my 43" so that it just swings over and viola! I need the space in my cave so cannot have a dedicated rig and I simply cannot live without my Sprints and DD wheel, so this is working perfectly for me.
Hi, how do you mount the shifter?
@@flowerdealer Lowdown Shifter adapter.
What's the footprint of it? I have a confined space to work with.
Thanks Danny, I just bought the seat and the G923 based on your videos! Excited to get started! (just subbed too 👍)
Hey Danny, any idea if the Challenge plate will take a 90mm or 65 mill hole pattern? Asetek la Prima coming (Big thanks for your video on the deal). I'd love to use the Asetek tilt mount, just not sure it'll fit. I know the bottom mount has a Fanatec pattern but that thing is quite large and wide for my liking.
I have used one of these since gt5 on the ps3, absolutely clutch when you have limited space.
Can literally be put in a closet when you’re not using it. It’s not meant to be the end all be all of rigs but what it is meant to be, its mega at. I’ve even bought a few sets for friends over the years and they loved them.
Can u put the shifter on it?
How's the mounting for Moza R5 or R3? Does it need mods or can it be mounted out of the box?
Can I slap a Fanatec Clubsport in there without it falling apart?
I have the Logitech x version and have a fanatec DD pro sat on it, apart from adding a deck brace from lowdown shifter the thing is spot on
It's still not as rigid as a dedicated seat, but this is still a great solution for those who have to live in compact rooms, especially in the apartment.
what about the gear knob how do you attach that?
What is the standing you use for your monitor?
Been racing about a year now, as I don’t have room for a fixed rig. Started with a T300RSGT but just upgraded that to a Logitech G Pro DD wheel and pedals. You hit the nail on the head saying it moves but not enough to be offputting, and I get consistent times
Just take more care when folding up, as the new wheel and pedals weigh about 3 times the Thrustmaster ones 😅
Does anyone know how tall it is when folded
"less than one Big Mac a day" 🤣
That one dude who put a V8 in a clio is pretty mad right now 😂
Anybody that crazy probably can't understand words
the clutch pedal would be much more comftable as the brake. so your legs arent cramped up. maybe i need to modify mine.
Ive currently got a clubsport dd mounted to it. Will update when the rig fucking folds
The best chair like this right now is the the next level racing pro. Its so good that it can hold my dd+ and sure move a bit but succesfully felt so good snd so comfortable due to the padding on the seat. Not to mention each part doesnt need to be screwed or unscrewed its so simple ro move and adjust. While being uncredibly strong its the only chesper one like this I would suggest. Some peolle eant the bigger bois for ffb and want to pay extta for the wheel and base while saving money on the rig and if thats you do what im saying. The ffb from the dd+ is so good thst the slight loss from movement is still so much better then even a dd pro on a stiff great rig.
I have a question in base mount can be a dd base? or it have to be normal base (dd base like moza, fanatec)
You can mount a CSL DD to it, no problem.
You can mount a Moza R9 to it, no problem.
You can mount a Moza R5 to it but you'll need the moza 4-pin to 3 pin mount adaptor plate
Boy do I feel dumb. Got this as a hand me down and never realized that the wheel support swings. I do have a question for everyone: I am a shorter person and if I completely lie back, the top of the seat pushes my head forward. Anyone has a fix?
Haha, no way!
Its awesome for F1 racing sim, have this combo 🙂🙂
Does it come with a shifter holder?
That's an optional extra, should be found at the same seller you get the main bit from
Anything that's comfortable on the hole is alright with me