Toscanini and the bass

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  • @PaloXanthos
    @PaloXanthos 2 роки тому +261

    I would like to thank God for the fact Toscannini never heard me playing the guitar.

  • @tomasitto299
    @tomasitto299 3 роки тому +185

    He's speaking in perfect C major!

    • @excelsior999
      @excelsior999 7 місяців тому +10

      But his tone is Fortissimo and is definitely not Cantabile.

  • @pablov1973
    @pablov1973 6 років тому +554

    72 years later, basses are always late.

    • @lingling8047
      @lingling8047 5 років тому +12

      SHUT UP BASSES ARE THE COOLEST INSTRUMENTS OKKK????
      ok im done sry xD

    • @luborkloda8903
      @luborkloda8903 4 роки тому +30

      Big weight = slow response. Everything needs more time on big instruments. To start the tone and to end the tone. Poor doublebass players. I'm really sorry for them because if they play all the time 0.1s before the conductor gesture they will be still too late. The only worse instrument I know is organ. Organ must be played 0.5s before and sometimes it is still not enough. Luckily maestro Toscanini didn't have any organ in the recording.

    • @fredericchopin6445
      @fredericchopin6445 3 роки тому +1

      nice try copy and pasting a comment

    • @xdragclick2074
      @xdragclick2074 3 роки тому +4

      @@fredericchopin6445 omg stop being so negative i saw you on the... idk what to call it maybe 'viola player screams during concert' and you were always arguing

    • @brianpaulbrundage
      @brianpaulbrundage 2 роки тому +6

      I'm 3 years too late for this comment. I'm the first chair

  • @golden-63
    @golden-63 11 місяців тому +50

    The musical notation of Toscanini's over the top rant is just genius!

  • @jhersk
    @jhersk 5 років тому +230

    This was the inspiration for Whiplash.

  • @mattmoreira210
    @mattmoreira210 3 роки тому +63

    1:53 “This makes me want to kick everyone’s ass, for God’s sake!”
    Lmao

  • @TheAboriginal1
    @TheAboriginal1 Рік тому +39

    That you turned his rant into a score is ingenious.

  • @tejaswi5763
    @tejaswi5763 5 років тому +141

    "You have ears in your feet!!" He just burned them all

    • @korosuke1788
      @korosuke1788 4 роки тому +7

      And you can tell he wanted to say "you have ears in your ass".

    • @tejaswi5763
      @tejaswi5763 4 роки тому +1

      @@korosuke1788 😆

    • @ewanodoherty2545
      @ewanodoherty2545 3 роки тому

      🤣🤣

    • @VasilBelezhkov
      @VasilBelezhkov 2 роки тому +8

      The fun part is he OBVIOUSLY didn't mean the feet (or he would say 'ON your feet') :D

  • @spawnofscriabintheblackmas7669
    @spawnofscriabintheblackmas7669 5 років тому +86

    "EEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYY!! OOOOHHH, ContraBassi.." -Arturo Toscanini on Terrence Malick's Tree of Life

  • @campanaro_99
    @campanaro_99 Рік тому +37

    There's Italian, there's English and then there's Toscanini.

  • @Prof321
    @Prof321 2 роки тому +45

    "I never look at the trombones. It only encourages them,"Leopold Stokowski.

    • @marieclare-ue6kl
      @marieclare-ue6kl 10 місяців тому

      Thomas Beecham said that. Stokowski never.

    • @GuidoMenestrina
      @GuidoMenestrina  10 місяців тому +7

      No, this is not a real quote, and it wasn't said by Wagner (or Schubert). It's an alteration of a quote by Richard Strauss from his "Ten Golden Rules (for the album of a young conductor)."
      Specifically: "4. Never look encouragingly at the brass, except with a short glance to give an important cue."
      So it has nothing to do with trombones specifically, or the classical era, or the romantic era.

  • @bevaconme
    @bevaconme 7 років тому +87

    the measure numbers make this bizarre exercise in transcription even more incongruous.

  • @xi7837
    @xi7837 4 роки тому +50

    When he says “shame on you” you can hear the crew holding back there laughter

  • @Dave-ti2ue
    @Dave-ti2ue Рік тому +12

    Toscanini and Buddy Rich. The patron saints of kind and gentle music directors.

  • @Nofzio
    @Nofzio 4 роки тому +40

    La trasposizione in pentagramma è qualcosa di fantastico.

    • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
      @Fritz_Maisenbacher Рік тому +1

      Dramatico .............. and I loved the ('censored' ) "coglio ....... " haha

  • @Rika906
    @Rika906 4 роки тому +62

    Toscanini is like the Gordon Ramsey of classical music.

    • @XMarkxyz
      @XMarkxyz Рік тому +12

      Gordon is the Toscanini of food

    • @LePhil79
      @LePhil79 10 місяців тому

      Except that Toscanini was good in is domain, while Ramsay was good for a Brit.

  • @beethoventoday
    @beethoventoday 4 роки тому +97

    It was a symphony orchestra made up of very young players, mostly, who didn't have opera experience. Toscanini wanted to train them to be very flexible and able to follow his beat especially because the pulse changes from bar to bar sometimes inside a bar and with the vocal soloists. He also did not conduct ahead of the beat, or rebound up to his head after giving a downbeat, as most conductors do, expecting the orchestra to come in later. Toscanini expected that just as he came down with his stick, the bows should be drawn across the strings, in sync with his downbeat.

    • @q2breath
      @q2breath 4 роки тому +16

      Were you there? He was revered for his knowledge, artistry and passion. He simply hated divas of any sorts, on stage and among orchestra players. And, let's face it, especially at the time, most players were all from well off families, not used to work so hard at all. He made history for many reasons, his character included, but all singers who approached him with humility have all confirmed how much he did for them, among testimonies we count those of the Dames: Toti Dal Monte, Rosetta Pampanini, Giulietta Simionato, Renata Tebaldi and many more. Not to mention he has been the only conductor who gave due credit to the immortal unique talent of Dame Marian Anderson.
      Maestro Toscanini pretended a lot and gave a lot. Look, I studied Fine Arts and Ballet for a very long time, most great teachers are fervently demanding, and the more talented you are the more they pretend from you. Being an orchestra director means melting talents together, molding them, and yet allowing them to express authentic emotions through music they did not write... It is certainly Not and an easy task!

    • @stefanbernhard2710
      @stefanbernhard2710 Рік тому +4

      Ummm. That's verbal abuse dude. He was a prick

    • @James-z5p3y
      @James-z5p3y Рік тому +1

      Beautiful comment and explanation.

    • @silverkitty2503
      @silverkitty2503 Рік тому +2

      yeah they need to be that flexible for the recitatives because they are meant to be ...free and have the rhythm of speech ..maybe a bit decided beforehand but its not meant to sound that way ...and it can all fall apart if the orchestra can't follow the singer as they are meant to.

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому

      ​@@stefanbernhard2710👍👍

  • @Hepponisme
    @Hepponisme Рік тому +10

    This my favorite video on the Internet.

    • @ilmelangolo
      @ilmelangolo 4 місяці тому +1

      Along with "Afro Ninja"...

  • @swimmad456
    @swimmad456 Місяць тому +1

    There was more to Toscanini as a musician than these rants. He cared deeply about expressing the composer's wishes and would not accept second best.

  • @aaronsmyth7943
    @aaronsmyth7943 Рік тому +5

    It's one of those things where he started looking out for bass errors, all the time... and picked up every one of them.

  • @davidhewins
    @davidhewins 2 роки тому +15

    Quality of the instrument is a big factor in response time for orchestral strings. This is especially true for the double bass, with its large size and string tension. Perhaps this episode occurred at a time before orchestral associations helped players fund purchase of expensive instruments, or at least underwrote their mortgages!

    • @edwardcastilano7459
      @edwardcastilano7459 2 роки тому +5

      David-
      These were the best players in the U.S. with fine vintage instruments. So the instruments have not changed but the strings have. They used gut strings back then and in the 60’s is when steel strings came along. The response of gut strings is slightly slower than steel but that would not be the reason they sound behind to Toscanini. It’s about bowing technique but mostly about just being alert, on the ball, eyes on the conductor constantly and listening

    • @davidhewins
      @davidhewins 2 роки тому +2

      @@edwardcastilano7459 I have played bass using both steel and gut strings too, think the response and resonance of steel is usually worse. But T's issue is deeper, IMO. I consider his conducting a gold standard, but he was so demanding that the NBC Symphony unionized on him! Hard to solve issues like that by just watching and listening. Of course now unions are pervasive, at least in the big US orchestras, so orchestras overseas that still have good rapport betw. musicians and conductors actually turn out better performances, IMO.

    • @edwardcastilano7459
      @edwardcastilano7459 2 роки тому +3

      @@davidhewins Hi David-
      The bass section was without question Tosacani’s whipping post, so he was going to beat on them no matter what, but you can hear exactly what he objects to and yells about before he stops to chastise them. I don’t think dealing with his abuse was a “Union” issue, its just that they respected him so much that they put up with it and he would forget about it by the next day anyway. I did the transcription of what he says to go along with “Nine Hours of La Traviata Rehearsals” that was on UA-cam, uploaded by SempreToscanini and now gone, and he yelled at the basses 13 times, the first violins 6 times and the Celli 5 times, never the winds or brass. So from that tally and from what my teacher said about the rehearsals, he habitually picked on the bass players. And I would not be surprised if he did the same in all of the other orchestras where he had been Music Director.

  • @q2breath
    @q2breath 4 роки тому +13

    Most great teachers or Maestro/a of all art Art forms are very demanding. And the more talented you are, the more they pretend from you! Maestro Toscanini had pure passion for art and artistry, and he expressed with hard work and humility. Most of overly paid, from well off families, musicians in those orchestra were not used to be told off and work hard to reach a common goal.

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому +2

      Pues con Toscanini se pusieron al día. 😆

  • @oldhollywoodcryptid
    @oldhollywoodcryptid Місяць тому +1

    I was researching Arturo Toscanini for a project and this came up… Long story short I linked it in a google slide and I could not stop giggling. Now I’m in an orchestral rabbit hole…

  • @littlewishy6432
    @littlewishy6432 4 роки тому +17

    How many times on a daily basis did this man outburst “corpo d'un Dio santissimo”?

  • @silverkitty2503
    @silverkitty2503 Рік тому +16

    I worked with an Italian conductor for a small professional choral group. I was only paid like 20 euros an hr ...but my god he was terrifying ..his name was Sol and i kept pronouncing it wrong. But he didnt care if i called him snoopy he never would have mentioned it i kept calling him sal all the time ...not a blink...but if i came in early so much as a nanosecond or was even slightly off he would literally throw something at me or frog march me out of the room! I miss the trauma!

  • @ilfriner1287
    @ilfriner1287 4 роки тому +58

    Toscanini: HEYYYY HEYYYYY
    YOU HAVE NO EARS....AHHHH
    Beethoven: “I cant hear youuuuu”.....

    • @r.z6396
      @r.z6396 4 роки тому +4

      good one😂

  • @michelm87
    @michelm87 4 роки тому +16

    Secondo me Toscanini ci può dare un idea di come era esigente Verdi, dato che le testimonianze dell'epoca lo raccontano.
    Ed essendo Toscanini un suo discepolo, qualcosa avrà preso dal maestro, molto probabilmente anche in questo.
    E non oso immaginare la perfezione che volle Toscanini al secondo "funerale" di Verdi 😊

  • @lefinlay
    @lefinlay 3 роки тому +7

    Lol, I don’t speak any Italian, but from the lyrics I can see how much he was blaspheming 😂
    And “donkey head (brain?)” at 1:03

    • @mattmoreira210
      @mattmoreira210 3 роки тому +4

      1:54 “this makes me want to kick everyone’s ass, for God’s sake” lmao 😂

    • @Aurora-qn2dx
      @Aurora-qn2dx 3 роки тому +2

      "Testa di asino" is the most common Italian " insult"..all appart of our culture ..even his shouting is just typical italian way of teaching..Its the same today..Italians turn out just fine.
      testa di asino means you are thick and thats why donkeys where used in Pinocchio ( With all respect to the animal ..plus my dad argues that donkeys are quite smart)

  • @musical_lolu4811
    @musical_lolu4811 3 роки тому +10

    1:49 angergasm

  • @lisamuse574
    @lisamuse574 8 місяців тому

    my old violin master used to tell me about toscanini‘s legendary and fiery temper. thank you for posting this. i now understand what he meant.

  • @ilirllukaci5345
    @ilirllukaci5345 10 місяців тому +1

    I still remember from WGBH and Ron Della Chiesa (and my father's Italian translation). "Leggiero, leggiero".

  • @AfroPoli
    @AfroPoli 3 місяці тому +1

    He is the Trapattoni of music. Trapattoni is the Mussolini of football. And Mussolini is the Toscanini of politics.

  • @FlagAnthem
    @FlagAnthem Рік тому +1

    2:02 It's that one, what's his name... Gaetano!

  • @enricomosca4674
    @enricomosca4674 8 місяців тому +1

    "Quel bravo li". Citando Manzoni, un Germano Mosconi ante litteram. Sublime.

  • @jeanparke9373
    @jeanparke9373 7 років тому +26

    Omg I died 😂😂😂😂😂 amazing work!!

  • @antoninomarullo8468
    @antoninomarullo8468 6 років тому +7

    Le mitiche prove della Traviata

  • @laurababyyy1
    @laurababyyy1 9 місяців тому +1

    Now I know why they hired such a mad guy in full metal jacket.

  • @Giovinezza2000
    @Giovinezza2000 18 днів тому +1

    Arturo Toscanini with his secret song. 😂😂😂

  • @lingling8047
    @lingling8047 5 років тому +35

    Poveri contrabassi

  • @NigelRamses
    @NigelRamses 11 місяців тому +1

    Toscanini guest conducting the Youth Orchestra of Nebraska

  • @east_bay_transit_nerd
    @east_bay_transit_nerd 4 роки тому +18

    I see why the the bass clef is also called the F clef, Toscanini torched them so severely they have to keep pressing F to pay respects

  • @jackkenefick2696
    @jackkenefick2696 10 місяців тому +3

    "AND NO EYES!! LOOK AT ME!!"

  • @ezrhino100
    @ezrhino100 3 роки тому +8

    Toscanini is required listening for police training.

    • @harinagarajan2296
      @harinagarajan2296 4 місяці тому

      Ha ha ha yes. Especially the first outburst. After more than 4 decades of listening whenever I listen to any recording of la traviata I keep imagining this roar.

  • @miguelituarte7417
    @miguelituarte7417 5 місяців тому +1

    The next thing, of course, is Cathy Berberian's Stripsody.

  • @lcd32123
    @lcd32123 Рік тому +1

    Does anybody know, what the source is? Is it from a specific record?

  • @bakerygoblin6895
    @bakerygoblin6895 4 роки тому +13

    Can we get this for bass clef? Pretty please? I promise I won't be late c:

  • @codykimmel
    @codykimmel Рік тому +5

    Me frantically typing the Italian phrases into Google translate so I don't miss a word of this magnificent kerfuffle...

    • @veronicasavasta7971
      @veronicasavasta7971 10 місяців тому +1

      Io ho fatto lo stesso ma con le frasi in inglese😂

    • @codykimmel
      @codykimmel 10 місяців тому +2

      @@veronicasavasta7971 La tecnologia è una cosa meravigliosa.

    • @veronicasavasta7971
      @veronicasavasta7971 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes!

  • @q2breath
    @q2breath 3 роки тому +5

    Links to interviews with singers who praise Toscanini's technique. No pain, no gain! In arts, sports and sciences this is true more than ever. Honestly, having studied arts long enough to know that teachers who aren't strict and pretend a lot are not good. Toscanini was famous for his love for the arts, ability to select singers based on actual skills and techniques.
    Interview with Dames:
    Rosa Raisa
    ua-cam.com/video/9esqT3yhDVc/v-deo.html
    Toti Dal Monte
    ua-cam.com/video/FHLT9Z_nD60/v-deo.html
    Silvana Pampanini
    ua-cam.com/video/e-uj64gIJGc/v-deo.html
    Lotte Lehmann & Eleanor Steber discuss Toscanini
    ua-cam.com/video/NbWFDXaUmVM/v-deo.html
    Licai Albanese
    ua-cam.com/video/qLUc6DQj3f0/v-deo.html
    Frances Alda
    www.gramilano.com/2018/03/soprano-frances-alda-arguing-with-toscanini-a-debut-at-la-scala-chaliapins-hairy-chest-and-caruso-at-the-met/

    • @Aurora-qn2dx
      @Aurora-qn2dx 3 роки тому

      Well said ..his teaching Is typical italian way of teaching..Its the same today ..thats why Italians are a success in the arts.

    • @MatteoLonderoPianist
      @MatteoLonderoPianist Рік тому +1

      Thank you!!!

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому

      ​@@Aurora-qn2dxY dale Perico al torno.

  • @davidhertzberg
    @davidhertzberg Рік тому +8

    Toscanini merely demanded that the orchestra be competent: know the score and come prepared to play it. I don't blame him one bit for being irritated. His time is being wasted.

  • @marcominelli2578
    @marcominelli2578 3 роки тому +7

    Straordinario amore per la ricerca della perfezione.

  • @AliciaElcira
    @AliciaElcira 5 місяців тому +1

    La batuta más importante. No permitió la entrada al teatro Colón, al presidente M.T. de Alvear, por haber llegado tarde.

  • @FS-dm6et
    @FS-dm6et 5 років тому +7

    god thanks i didnt play the bass

  • @choy_shixi
    @choy_shixi 2 роки тому +3

    1:10 "You are not ears!"

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому

      Seguramente estaba tan enfadado por lo mal que hablaba el inglés. Y eso que los italianos son unos genios, según algunos.

  • @jimmydelrosario60
    @jimmydelrosario60 2 роки тому +4

    HE is breathing out FIRE

  • @WatchOnYT
    @WatchOnYT 3 роки тому +5

    I want to see a double bass player play this. I really do.
    Btw, did you realise that the cursor is always a bit late?

  • @thurstonmurru
    @thurstonmurru 11 місяців тому +1

    The translation is taming so much lol

  • @giampiero3524
    @giampiero3524 3 місяці тому +2

    1'02'' Testa d'asino... 😄

  • @beckepoete
    @beckepoete 4 роки тому +2

    Wau, ekstrem ?

  • @garrischlow6652
    @garrischlow6652 Рік тому +5

    There is a religious silence except for a small laugh when he said SHAME ON YOU

  • @cheesecakelasagna
    @cheesecakelasagna 4 роки тому +3

    I don't even play music but big mood.

  • @iagoramirezfraga5722
    @iagoramirezfraga5722 11 місяців тому +1

    Jeje yo me di cuenta que toscanini imita al profe de coro ( el director de banda )

  • @nicolassantiagoortega5474
    @nicolassantiagoortega5474 4 роки тому +25

    0:21

  • @MatteoBiagiotti
    @MatteoBiagiotti 2 роки тому +1

    Why does he speak a bit in english and a bit in italian?

    • @GuidoMenestrina
      @GuidoMenestrina  2 роки тому +3

      Because he was Italian and did speak some English.

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому +2

      ​@@GuidoMenestrinaSí señor. Una respuesta muy aclaratoria. 😆

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому

      👍

  • @nonchant
    @nonchant 2 роки тому +2

    Toscanini sang in anger. Karajan sang in his tone deafness.

  • @fabiosartorelli8727
    @fabiosartorelli8727 10 місяців тому

    a 9 secondi dice: contrabbassi folli e non follow me!

  • @christiandegasperi7198
    @christiandegasperi7198 Рік тому +2

    A Toscanini piacevano gli anagrammi 😅

  • @__spina__
    @__spina__ Рік тому +2

    fenomenale

  • @skarlatospanagiotis5000
    @skarlatospanagiotis5000 5 років тому +18

    -are you daff ?
    -what?

  • @danieladalcortivo6919
    @danieladalcortivo6919 8 місяців тому +1

    0:20 Bru bru

  • @Adrian-cg7jc
    @Adrian-cg7jc 3 роки тому +1

    The dot on the score is late

  • @detectivehome3318
    @detectivehome3318 5 років тому +1

    🤩

  • @HermanIngram
    @HermanIngram 4 місяці тому

    His orchestra was all male. They could handle the heat.

  • @fabiosartorelli8727
    @fabiosartorelli8727 10 місяців тому

    a 16 secondi: Su! Su! e non Short... short...

  • @rmoraespinto
    @rmoraespinto 5 років тому +2

    Hilário!

  • @lorenzo1848d.C
    @lorenzo1848d.C Рік тому +1

    Da italiano capisco perfettamente quello che sta dicendo, in pratica una messa al contrario

  • @benedicvelasco
    @benedicvelasco 3 роки тому +3

    Good thing conductors today know how low notes are always relatively "late".

  • @giovanni7207
    @giovanni7207 Місяць тому

    Mad! He was an isterical man that was not able to treat musicans with respect!

  • @raphaelneves7666
    @raphaelneves7666 3 роки тому +1

    Ahhahaha aweosme

  • @TheCblee
    @TheCblee 3 роки тому +2

    ...this transcription must be written by that Contrabassist.

  • @opale1572
    @opale1572 Рік тому

    Aparte de la humillación que ese comportamiento debía de producir a los músicos, este hombre por lo visto no se daba cuenta de que hacía reír.

  • @diogene3913
    @diogene3913 4 роки тому +5

    Cercava si non bestemmiare dicendo, *...Corpo di un Dio santissimo!*

    • @armycin
      @armycin 4 роки тому +2

      Spesso basta cambiare l'ordine di due lettere

    • @massimobernardo-
      @massimobernardo- Рік тому

      ​@@armycinDiaz o madosca

  • @timv6715
    @timv6715 2 місяці тому

    I hope he apologized. With instilling so much fear into his musicians, it’s understandable that his performances seem cold to many of us even to this day.

  • @FJCrociata
    @FJCrociata 6 років тому +5

    Any idea of the date of this?

    • @GuidoMenestrina
      @GuidoMenestrina  6 років тому +2

      +FJCrociata it should be 1954.

    • @pablov1973
      @pablov1973 6 років тому +6

      @@GuidoMenestrina December 1946, Studio 8H Rehearsal for the RCA recording.

    • @GuidoMenestrina
      @GuidoMenestrina  6 років тому +1

      Thanks for all these info!

    • @pablov1973
      @pablov1973 6 років тому +1

      @SHICOFF1 Both Traviata and Boheme were in 1946, December for Verdi, February for Puccini.

  • @silverkitty2503
    @silverkitty2503 Рік тому +5

    This man refused to play the fascist anthem. Respect.

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому +1

      ¿Qué coño tendrá que ver una cosa con la otra?

  • @Aurora-qn2dx
    @Aurora-qn2dx 3 роки тому +3

    Its normal italian way of teaching..he points out whats wrong with clarity,the truth that can hurt..thats why Italy is a successo in everything.

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому

      ¡Lo que es la ceguera patriótica!😆

  • @susannabaroni8127
    @susannabaroni8127 Місяць тому

    Poor players...they were young....

  • @ChristopherDeLarge
    @ChristopherDeLarge 9 місяців тому

    Whiplash in real life

  • @lupash
    @lupash 5 днів тому +1

    "You're a very good bass, but per Dio santo in Italian opera you are TERRIBLE"

  • @fabiosartorelli8727
    @fabiosartorelli8727 10 місяців тому

    a 31 secondi: Rompicoglioni lei... e non "de"...

  • @lukemagee1515
    @lukemagee1515 Місяць тому +1

    itd be funny but its so innacurate 😭

  • @crescenzodilena9090
    @crescenzodilena9090 3 дні тому

    No, non dice per amor di dio

  • @dr.johnpaladinshow9747
    @dr.johnpaladinshow9747 5 років тому +4

    To be fair, we are dealing with base players here.

  • @belcantoitaliano4322
    @belcantoitaliano4322 3 роки тому

    Agahaha

  • @CMario73
    @CMario73 Рік тому +3

    The most overrated bully in the history of music.

  • @radioheadtv3131
    @radioheadtv3131 Рік тому +3

    I hate conductors like this it never is good for anyone

  • @tonycatterick841
    @tonycatterick841 3 роки тому +4

    And all this from a man who hated fascist dictators ranting and venting their spleen against downtrodden good people. What an irony!
    Mercifully this kind of bullying from the podium is now long gone never to return mercifully.

    • @musical_lolu4811
      @musical_lolu4811 3 роки тому +1

      Shut up. What has having a shitty temper to do with one's personal politics? Poor logic.

    • @Aurora-qn2dx
      @Aurora-qn2dx 3 роки тому +3

      It is the Italian way of teaching..it is still the same today...the truth can be harsh but moulds success and improvement..thats why Italians are brilliant at what they are brilliant at and can achieve almost anything.

    • @jan-olofpohlin8667
      @jan-olofpohlin8667 Рік тому +3

      @@Aurora-qn2dx I prefer the gentleness of Bruno Walter.

    • @musicalme27
      @musicalme27 Рік тому

      Would YOU have the sheer courage this man had; to say NO to Mussolini and Hitler. He was even attacked by Mussolini's thugs.

    • @opale1572
      @opale1572 Рік тому

      ​@@Aurora-qn2dxOtra vez.

  • @andrewsnow1933
    @andrewsnow1933 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank g-d for UNIONS. totally unacceptable and abusive

    • @HermanIngram
      @HermanIngram 4 місяці тому

      Orchestras were better before unions.

  • @stevendaniel8126
    @stevendaniel8126 2 роки тому +1

    NUT CASE......

  • @anamerican5499
    @anamerican5499 3 роки тому +11

    IF toscanini would have yelled at me, like he did, I would have yelled profanities right back at him, then walked out.
    There is no reason for his behavior. A beginning student or an advanced virtuoso should never be berated like that.
    Teachers & conductors can have high standards, and still be supportive and encouraging, with out acting like a crabby old jack ass.

    • @Aurora-qn2dx
      @Aurora-qn2dx 3 роки тому +6

      Dear its the Italian way of teaching..its still the same today in 2021..primary school kids get taught to like that and they grow up to be brilliant and strong human beings moulded by discipline and harsh truths..thats why Italians are a success at what they do.

    • @pablov1973
      @pablov1973 2 роки тому +3

      William Primrose went to Toscanini apartment and ask for an audition to be hired by him to play in the orchestra. The best musicians wants to play with Toscanini, because they knew that he was one of the greatest conductors that ever lived. On the other hand, Toscanini wasn´t always in that way, he can speak very soflty, very kindly, try to find the rehearsal of Daphnis et Cloe.

    • @lsjt8924
      @lsjt8924 2 роки тому +3

      Firstly, username checks out.
      Secondly: standards in education across all liberal arts, fine arts, history in universities, high schools and primary schools have been falling for decades in all western countries… rising in Asian countries where discipline is strict and often harsh.
      But okay sure…

    • @raffaelelitterio5370
      @raffaelelitterio5370 Рік тому +2

      @@Aurora-qn2dx what the fuck are you talking about? Get out

    • @Aurora-qn2dx
      @Aurora-qn2dx Рік тому +1

      @@raffaelelitterio5370 its the truth..most Italian teachers and professors are used to yelling.. doctors yell and tell you off..even people that work in the post office.. .even on italian talk shows ..they all yell when needed and sometimes when not..they dont mean wrong..to a italian of that eras percepiton he wouldnt of made such a bad impression as he did to people of other nations that where not used to teachers yelling..to others he sounds very harsh but all he is is frustrate and wants the contrabassi to be on time so they can strive for improvement.

  • @deyhimmohaddes1220
    @deyhimmohaddes1220 Рік тому +4

    era isterico, era intenso, era un perfezionista, era malato di mente, era arrogante. Pieno di difetti caratteriali. Per una creatura così disumana non pagherei nemmeno una lira per ascoltarla.