Dubbed the speed at the cutter, bigger circumference faster cutter. thanks for making me figure it out. Why does it work so well? I will be making one soon. Great video.
Ql, i got it for about 10 years now, make lot of hours on it, and still work awesome for 300€ i pay for new out of store 2011. This is Austrian brand (erba) where you come frome if you got same one ;-)
To make it more secure and safer in the mill, you could have made the shaft longer, and machined a couple of flats on it, so it could be used in an end mill arbor. Better yet (although it would require far more material and work), you could have made it like an arbor, allowing it to be bolted into the milling machine's quill.
Steel and iron are completely different, looks like steel to me, i noticed in one or your other videos (turning)you call steel iron and i could tell by the very long stringy chips,, iron does not do that, it crumbles into short powdery dust grains. nice video all the same. and subscribed for more.
Your cut is always going to be ahead of centre. Your slot for the tool should be offset. I know this is an old video, but it's worth knowing your correct geometry.
nice, if you look at a commercial fly cutter the tool bar is offset to the side of the head center, offset so the cutting face of the carbide is level with the center of rotation, as you have it the cutter would be like using on a lathe with the cutting tip below center, the finish is nice but the finish will be better with less tear out of material especially on low carbon mild steel if the cutter tip is on rotation center, not the middle of the bar on center
It's true but then you got less material from side to hold insert holder, that's why i make through center, and than add angle on insert holder look on 8:18 that angle make insert more in center, hope you understand my english, also make this fly cutter specialy for chuck, when you need to clean small surface quickly.
Thanks, i make that flycutter with small diameter of shaft, just because i can fit it into drill chuck, so tool change is very fast, if i mount collet take me 5x more time. That chuck with key (not selftightening) is great, half hour ago i face milling some aluminium with that cutter, take 0,1mm deep 100mm wide with that chuck, with no problem no vibration.... maximum feed speed. I heave another one for collet but using hss tool and not so good, more vibration than that, hope you understand my english.
joshua klingensmith agree i had another one for collet but make this one specialy for chuck for some small part so you don't need to change chuck... and chuck can't fall out because there are thread on chuck-conus side and mk3 conus had M12 thread, so it cant fall out, but agree chuck is not for milling it's some kind of shortcut, No problem at all so far.
Hi. Please, PLEASE, get a proper mill chuck. Fly cutters put a big side load on the chuck and you WILL have a very nasty accident using a drill chuck. Drill chucks are not designed to take side loads. You will damage the drill chuck, your work and quite possibly yourself when the tool is thrown violently out of the drill chuck at speed. I do not want you to get hurt - you make nice videos! If your spindle has an R8 taper then R8 collets are the cheapest option. Otherwise I suggest an ER collet chuck, either ER20 or if it will fit the bigger ER30 chuck. You can buy the matching tool holder collets one at a time as required. BobUK.
Robert Hawtin hy, yes that's true, my mill use mk3 collets and i got them from 2-20mm, but this fly cutter i make specially for a drill chuck, i know that's not right, but sometimes you must just flat some piece, and rhan drill again, so lot of time saving, but you must know what you work and cut slowly not 2mm at once. Also i make more fly cutter wich fit into 20mm collet for more serious work.
Ingvar Bergström thanks if you want less vibration just make shank 20mm diameter and use collet and not drill chuck to mount. I make one before with 20mm shank but make this one specialy for drill chuck so there is 12-13mm shank diameter, it's dangerous i know but save lot of time if you know what you work (cutting really gently)
Ingvar Bergström i translate now "protrude" i know what you think now, maybe there will be some less vibration because there are big force only on one side, so maybe it help if you mount some kind of weight on other side, but i will not play with that.
Hej buddy thanks for the nice video . Could you tell me what is the mark of your chuck? i got the same chuck i think but with a big run out. thanks keep up
graeme Tho most of time i work with highest rpm mill can rotate it's 2200rpm but the sensor say almost 2400rpm. But i planning to change the gear or eaven motor on mill so can rotate about 3000-4000rpm.
I have only had my mill for a couple off weeks and am still learning how to use it, I I'll try making one, but not knowing any better I would not have run it that fast.
Google+ SUCKS BALLS - the worst forced social network misliš da bi bila os 3,17mm? ne verjamem da boš dobil saj bi odlomilo ob prvem dotiku, še moja je izvenserijska ker ima os 12mm večina so te zadeve direktno na konus saj so velike prečne momentalne obremenitve.
ngoc cam Doan hy, i using the basic iron i got from a trash... but strong enough, the weakest spot there is shaft, but i want to make small shaft (12mm) so can put them in drill chuck, so far so good, but not cut more than 1mm at once.
@@CUBETechie fly cutter is used only for smoothnes the surface, i cut really low deepth with it like 0,1mm with milling head you can cut 10mm or more at once with real machine, but fly cutter cut much much bigger area at once (i seen once cutting 1 meter of diamater, and fly cutter make better, smoother, nicier surface than milling head. I bought the vise, it's from really hard material and grinded from all side, really love that vise, i bought on ebay for about 100€, but it's worth every penny, good vise is basic in milling, if you got cheap vise you'l broke lot of tool and nerves.
I know what you think, but that fly cutter is preatty small so i make grove on the middle, so i got more steel on booth side, so it's a bit more ridgit, than i shift insert for few degree, so the insert cut parpendicular to workpiece
semtech No prob, look for other brand search as 20 or 25 mill... you'll find totaly the same mill by many digferent brand like optimum(de), grizzly(usa), holzmachinen...
He did not use aluminium, he said it was a piece of old iron from his scrap, looked like steel to me. Read the comment above yours, or better still read all the comments.
Surprised to see you using grit-paper on your lathe, always believed that was not recommended. Very nice job on the fly-cutter and bit holders!!
Maybe it's not recomended because of steel dust wich can go under ghe rails on the lathe, but i always use sand paper on my cheap lathe.
Dubbed the speed at the cutter, bigger circumference faster cutter. thanks for making me figure it out. Why does it work so well? I will be making one soon. Great video.
Wow nice great mke machining milling machine thas grèat
I watching video from Philippines..in cebu
I have the same mini lathe!
Well done!👍😎
Ql, i got it for about 10 years now, make lot of hours on it, and still work awesome for 300€ i pay for new out of store 2011.
This is Austrian brand (erba) where you come frome if you got same one ;-)
To make it more secure and safer in the mill, you could have made the shaft longer, and machined a couple of flats on it, so it could be used in an end mill arbor.
Better yet (although it would require far more material and work), you could have made it like an arbor, allowing it to be bolted into the milling machine's quill.
great things comes from great hands and great minds
#1 Face mill model ?
#2 Carbide insert model ?
Thanks !
Bravo Tin...koji leguru celika si koristio?
Pa uzeo sam prvi kos odpada ispod banka ;-) uporabljam ga dosti i brez problema do sada, uporabljam na aluminiju i na železu
Steel and iron are completely different, looks like steel to me, i noticed in one or your other videos (turning)you call steel iron and i could tell by the very long stringy chips,, iron does not do that, it crumbles into short powdery dust grains. nice video all the same. and subscribed for more.
True, it's just my english, thanks.
Your cut is always going to be ahead of centre. Your slot for the tool should be offset. I know this is an old video, but it's worth knowing your correct geometry.
True, but i angeled the insert a bit.
nice, if you look at a commercial fly cutter the tool bar is offset to the side of the head center, offset so the cutting face of the carbide is level with the center of rotation, as you have it the cutter would be like using on a lathe with the cutting tip below center, the finish is nice but the finish will be better with less tear out of material especially on low carbon mild steel if the cutter tip is on rotation center, not the middle of the bar on center
It's true but then you got less material from side to hold insert holder, that's why i make through center, and than add angle on insert holder look on 8:18 that angle make insert more in center, hope you understand my english, also make this fly cutter specialy for chuck, when you need to clean small surface quickly.
@@TinC33 good point I forgot about the angle you added 👍
@@markhobster8113 thanks
My Friend excelent Tool..Better use this tool with Collet(more Safe) and no drill Chuck ..
Thanks, i make that flycutter with small diameter of shaft, just because i can fit it into drill chuck, so tool change is very fast, if i mount collet take me 5x more time.
That chuck with key (not selftightening) is great, half hour ago i face milling some aluminium with that cutter, take 0,1mm deep 100mm wide with that chuck, with no problem no vibration.... maximum feed speed.
I heave another one for collet but using hss tool and not so good, more vibration than that, hope you understand my english.
Dont worry for ur English my english also bad ..Just becareful the chuck ..
use caution the chuck can fall out but it is nice quality work
joshua klingensmith agree i had another one for collet but make this one specialy for chuck for some small part so you don't need to change chuck...
and chuck can't fall out because there are thread on chuck-conus side and mk3 conus had M12 thread, so it cant fall out, but agree chuck is not for milling it's some kind of shortcut, No problem at all so far.
That is good
nice work. thanks for detailed video on how its done.
Quanto me cobra pra fazer uma pra mim?
Hi. Please, PLEASE, get a proper mill chuck. Fly cutters put a big side load on the chuck and you WILL have a very nasty accident using a drill chuck. Drill chucks are not designed to take side loads. You will damage the drill chuck, your work and quite possibly yourself when the tool is thrown violently out of the drill chuck at speed. I do not want you to get hurt - you make nice videos! If your spindle has an R8 taper then R8 collets are the cheapest option. Otherwise I suggest an ER collet chuck, either ER20 or if it will fit the bigger ER30 chuck. You can buy the matching tool holder collets one at a time as required. BobUK.
Robert Hawtin hy, yes that's true, my mill use mk3 collets and i got them from 2-20mm, but this fly cutter i make specially for a drill chuck, i know that's not right, but sometimes you must just flat some piece, and rhan drill again, so lot of time saving, but you must know what you work and cut slowly not 2mm at once.
Also i make more fly cutter wich fit into 20mm collet for more serious work.
Great work, that came out very nice. Good quality video editing, too! ;)
+The Joy of Precision thanks
are you drunk or something
@@fabiankirschner9982 .....
is carbide a good choice for an interrupted that you would get with a flycutter?
I don't know, but works to me.
Ingvar
Precise and handsome.
Just thinking, if the shank would protrude equally at the back end will vibrations be even smaller?
Regards
Ingvar Bergström thanks if you want less vibration just make shank 20mm diameter and use collet and not drill chuck to mount.
I make one before with 20mm shank but make this one specialy for drill chuck so there is 12-13mm shank diameter, it's dangerous i know but save lot of time if you know what you work (cutting really gently)
Ingvar Bergström i translate now "protrude" i know what you think now, maybe there will be some less vibration because there are big force only on one side, so maybe it help if you mount some kind of weight on other side, but i will not play with that.
you are the best , nice work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ΚΩΣΤΑΣ never thanks
What kind of oil do you use?
Fluxseed/lanseed oil
it would work even better in a collet great job
true, i just show an eample in a borring chuck.
Jason Burns Feb
Do you use raw or boiled linseed oil?
Raw oil out of can
what a type oil you use for treatment after burn holder?
I use fluxseed oil, but every used car oil will make same result
Good work ...thank you very much
Hej buddy thanks for the nice video . Could you tell me what is the mark of your chuck? i got the same chuck i think but with a big run out. thanks keep up
Al Naee this IS no brand cheap Chuck But it IS precise and work great so far ror a few years now, I pay about $8 for it, max diameter 13mm.
did you make that rotary table? very nice and not too bulky
En Liri yes, watch my other video to see how i make them.
great project and great video!
what was the carbide insert you used for your this project?
how you cut into those angles, you have cnc miling?
No cnc, i just clamp piece by that qngle into vice, it can be seen into video.
What rpms do you rotate the fly cutter at?
graeme Tho most of time i work with highest rpm mill can rotate it's 2200rpm but the sensor say almost 2400rpm.
But i planning to change the gear or eaven motor on mill so can rotate about 3000-4000rpm.
I have only had my mill for a couple off weeks and am still learning how to use it, I I'll try making one, but not knowing any better I would not have run it that fast.
Good,,,, 👍👍👍
A obstaja 1/8 (3mm) shank micro fly cutter, al je kakšen poseben razlog da ga nikjer ne najdem? :P
Google+ SUCKS BALLS - the worst forced social network misliš da bi bila os 3,17mm? ne verjamem da boš dobil saj bi odlomilo ob prvem dotiku, še moja je izvenserijska ker ima os 12mm večina so te zadeve direktno na konus saj so velike prečne momentalne obremenitve.
Bo treba narest prostor za večji rezkalnik doma :D Kje pa nabavlaš surovine za stružnco/rezkalnik?
Google+ SUCKS BALLS - the worst forced social network alcu kamnik, železo se pa itak povsod najde
last you should heat treat ?
thank, may i know which material you used to make the holder?
ngoc cam Doan hy, i using the basic iron i got from a trash...
but strong enough, the weakest spot there is shaft, but i want to make small shaft (12mm) so can put them in drill chuck, so far so good, but not cut more than 1mm at once.
really useful information for me. thank man
Why choose a fly cutter over milling head?
Did you machine this machine vice for your own or did you buy it?
@@CUBETechie fly cutter is used only for smoothnes the surface, i cut really low deepth with it like 0,1mm with milling head you can cut 10mm or more at once with real machine, but fly cutter cut much much bigger area at once (i seen once cutting 1 meter of diamater, and fly cutter make better, smoother, nicier surface than milling head.
I bought the vise, it's from really hard material and grinded from all side, really love that vise, i bought on ebay for about 100€, but it's worth every penny, good vise is basic in milling, if you got cheap vise you'l broke lot of tool and nerves.
@@TinC33 where do you come from?
@@CUBETechie Slovenia (EU) and you?
Using round insert may have better finish
Need to try
you speeded it up so fast i think i can see the shutter speed flickering
Cutting face of insert needs to be on center of tool...meaning slot must be offset not on center
I know what you think, but that fly cutter is preatty small so i make grove on the middle, so i got more steel on booth side, so it's a bit more ridgit, than i shift insert for few degree, so the insert cut parpendicular to workpiece
Are you from germany?
No, but close, i'm from Slovenija (Slowenien) EU, next to Austria :)
What kind of mill do you have?
semtech px tools px25lv long table auto x axis
Thank you
semtech No prob, look for other brand search as 20 or 25 mill... you'll find totaly the same mill by many digferent brand like optimum(de), grizzly(usa), holzmachinen...
Why did it spark if it was aluminum
He did not use aluminium, he said it was a piece of old iron from his scrap, looked like steel to me. Read the comment above yours, or better still read all the comments.
영상 잘보고 갑니다!!😤
Mucha velocidad para esos opresores, se puede soltar.
you gotta slow down the machine man...and use coolant
Can you please get a demagnetizer
i got it now, awesome tool
@@TinC33 Awesome! I saw metal sticking all over the place.. I was sure you would need to hold a huge demagnetizer over the building with a crane!
Put it in a nice package and start making Euros.
Would be nice but all that paper work...
Thank you...
Me justo mucho tu dispositivo para fresar
So you arecutting iron
Are you sure about that
Fabian Kirschner yes, it cut very well
TinC33 are you sure your not cutting steel
Fabian Kirschner ok, let it be steel
jo. slovenec? ;)
seasonedtoker Tako kaže prikazana slika ;-)
tintek33 ah sorry, sploh nisem opazil, si pa mel mobitelovo majico v enem videu :) super kanal, zelo so mi vsec strojniski videi. kar tako naprej
seasonedtoker hvala, ideje zaenkrat niso problem, zatakne se pri času...
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what is with this fucking music?
Unwatchable because of the awful music.
don't u have a mute button?