Reviewing The New Blue Note 313 Series Donald Byrd & Thad Jones LP's From Third Man Records
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
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I bought both of these and I agree with you. They sound very good. Since they already changed the label to yellow, I went ahead and bought indie exclusive colored vinyl. They are absolutely beautiful and the colored vinyl plays quietly. I'm so glad I ordered them and I look forward to receiving the rest. I always enjoy hearing your opinion. Thank you and have a great day.
You’re a breath of fresh air, Melinda, so upbeat, love you’re posts and videos.
I had a very similar reaction in my review video. Glad to hear I was not losing my mind when I stated publicly that Third Man did a good job
Those words don’t wanna seem to naturally come off the tongue.
Well done, 3rd Man, this is excellent news. I feel a lot of places, VMP, Rhino, they’re all starting to achieve far higher quality in the main, it’s excellent for us consumers
On RVG, I don't know if you have heard this Mike, Charles Mingus said "Rudy van Gelder makes those kind of records. He tries to change people’s tones. I’ve seen him do it; I’ve seen him do it; I’ve seen him take Thad Jones and the way he sets him up at the mike, he can change the whole sound. That’s why I never go to him; he ruined my bass sound."
Look at the titles. Its Don Was a Die hard Detroiter taking care of another Die hard Detroiter. Two Detroit Guys working together giving us something wonderful. Nothing more nothing less.
I've noticed that the Third Man Verve by Request Series has residual surface noise even after ultrasonic cleaning
Warren Defever is a brilliant artist who started on the 4AD label with his band “His Name Is Alive” . Check out the video for “Can’t go wrong without you”. 😊
A Third Man reissue of HNIA's catalogue would be really welcome.
We love coke in Detroit
I’ve got a 1975 TJ mint cover and vinyl, played for only the second time when I saw this release, super impressed.
Mike, thanks for covering those. I preordered the whole bunch at once, so my order only comes in November. Anyways, I am a third man subscriber since their beginning, I am not surprised at all. Coming from Jack White, it should be a great record. Thanks- Felipe
Glad to see your take on these. Thanks for doing the research for us Mike.
$40 for “not bad”?! Hard pass! $40 is Tone Poet/Acoustic Sounds money. NOT Third Man.
Yes, Rudy cut everything unrealistically hot for reasons that are no longer are a consideration. Glad to hear you acknowledge Kevin Gray as surpassing Rudy’s work because that was the whole point of the new Blue Note series.
Thanks for this, Mike. Glad to hear the positive review. My Thad Jones is being delivered today - looking forward to it. And I didn’t realize it was a pre-Rudy session a little bummed to hear that, I was hoping this would have the same sonic magic as The Magnificent Thad Jones - Mike
Rudy was the engineer at another studio. And it shows.
As you put this video out, I should receive my copies of these two releases along with the recently repressing of Chet Baker Sings and Nigeria Tone Poet today. I ordered the Blue Note Color variants of these releases. I was skeptical at first but you put my mind at ease. Thanks Mike.
In my opinion kevin sometimes ignores the accuracy of Rudy's ear for realistic cymbals in lieu of "it was on the tape so leave it in". Which can make the cymbals too hot and tinny and innacurrate. His argument is that people spending $30-40 on records have hi end cartridges and turntables that can handle it. I guess many do, but That doesn't really change what is on the record
Correct the cymbals sound lousy on Kevin. Gray cuts
@@jackfalco5351 a good jazz crash ride cymbal chosen by a good drummer will only have a little bit of a glassy sound but will overall be warm sounding, dark, and clear. Including or accentuating the treble above 10k will often exacerbate the glassy character vs the warm dark characteristics that would often be more present in person. The tinny upper frequencies tend to dominate what would have been heard in person in the room when they are mastered into the final product
@@Joe-yi8xj• Could you elaborate / clarify / re-word that last sentence please?
@@UFO_computers even with good gear I feel the cymbal sound doesn't benefit from the mastering
Hey Mike 👋 Did you notice the stereo library label 😮on a mono 1500 series! I thought Bluenote was over looking this series? Big mistake for a 40+ dollar record!
Good to hear these sound great. That Grant Green Live at Mozambique will be a nice listen.
Frankly, I’m a little peeved here and not sure why everyone is so positive. We could have a KG all analog cut BNC for under $30 and instead we have a new series at a 30% premium in price. These should have been slated a BNCs.
Third Man uses Neumann VMS-70 Cutting Lathe. Not too shabby
Thanks for the review. Still waiting on mine. I FOMO'd and ordered the swirly vinyl at Third Man (yes I know better😂) and I guess they hold them until they can all ship. Probably order the black from you.
Did you A/B your original Byrd copy with the Third Man press?
I wonder if the difference between the Byrd RVG original and the 3rd Man can be attributed to the aging of the tape
thanks for the review. I saw these when they appeared and saw who was pressing them deciding to take a pass. may revisit that now.
Was thinking of the Byrd title but was waiting to see how everyone said it sounded
Looking forward to getting the Third Man Syd Barrett boxset which is coming out in Sept as part of their Vault series... Obviously cut from digital (as I can't see Universal releasing the master tapes to Third Man) Interested in what the quality will be like
I'd like to see an audiophile reissue of Ralph Peterson Quintet's "V" - one of my favorite post-bop albums ever. Any chance some of these issues from the 80's would get any attention?
I'd take some convincing that RTI is better than Optimal. They both have their good and bad moments, for sure.
Mike…Third Man had a policeman in there eating a powdered donut reviewing the new releases 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Everybody wants to put their digs in on Us Detroiters. Haha. We love Our Coke in Detroit. Best in the World. 8 Ball City.
I cannot agree with you when you speak of Third Man pressings in the same breath as Optimal as if they are at the same level of competence! No way in my experience. Optimal produces the quietest vinyl in the world along with Cleveland’s Gotta Groove Records who conspicuously, never seem to get a mention in the U.S. I have hundreds of Optimal pressings. Using my cleaning regimen they are as quiet as a tomb. Not so with Third Man Records. I use both wet cleaning and ultrasonic in tandem and that is the real deal. You see, I don’t think ultrasonic cleaning is wholly effective on its own, particularly with records that are delivered in filthy condition direct from the factory! Wet cleaning is still essential in my experience and I also use the excellent Klaudio RCM, since 2014 in fact. I won’t take issue with you about Pallas. The vinyl from that plant is not nearly as good as it was in the mid to late 1990s and beyond. Quality control has slipped in Diepholz, Germany over the past decade or so, in my experience.
Your not right the Thad jones was cut by RVG in mon in 1956. I think the only none Rvg titles in the BN cannon are from the original 5000 10” series that is mostly Dixieland and Sidney Bechet recordings.
He was the engineer at another studio. And it shows.
@@TheInGroove then why does the dead wax have rvg initials? as always scripted into the wax during this era.
Because he was the engineer but it was recorded at Audio Video Studios not Hackensack.
@@TheInGroove anyway I don’t have a original to compare. I have the 1972 UA reissue that sounds pretty good.
Where can you buy those?
Michael 45 showed a Miles Davis from this series that he already had, I'm surprised that you didn't also show it too... THAT is the one at this point that I am most curious about.
You're confused - there is NO Miles Davis in this particular series.
@@jeffreyweissyoutubeaccount5416 Okay 😊 I could've sworn that Michael 45 just recently posted a video with what I THOUGHT were new Jazz pressings from Third Man/Blue Note and he held up a Miles Davis album that I've not seen before, I think it had a red cover. I'll hafta go back and see what he was referring to... I also THOUGHT I went to the main site where these releases are mentioned, and it did include that Miles Davis album. At least I'm pretty sure I saw it 😁
@@jeffreyweissyoutubeaccount5416 Yeah, I guess you're right. I went back and checked the 313 website and it only mentions 5 albums, but no Miles Davis. I wonder what the hell album I'm thinking of. That is SO damn weird... I remember distinctly reading about the album and the mastering by Miles Davis, but it must not have been this series. I wonder which one it was, it was rather recent. It had like a one word title that I've not seen before, like 'Riff'n' or something like that. I guess I'll keep trying to figure it out 😊
My Mel Brown's Chicken Fat from Third Man stands as the filthiest record I've ever bought.. no idea what they are doing to get that filthy?!?!
Thanks for the review. I have an original Electric Byrd in very good condition so looks like I'll just buy the Jones which I don't have.
I was just at Third Man Record Plant here in Detroit yesterday. The Donald Byrd Electric LP on blue vinyl sounds great.
Do they have any D2C copies in the store?
@@jb-uw2vt I didn’t see them but I wasn’t looking either. They did have the ERC White Blood Cells for sale $450. Don’t know if it had the black sharpie treatment or not.
In past vids when mike has mentioned thirdman, it is clear he never liked thirdman anything. This vid seems like he is forced to like TMR. Has Mike ever gotten/listened to any vault packages from TMR? I don’t honestly care what anybody really thinks of TMR. To each their own, but there is no denying what they are doing/how much they are helping the vinyl industry with their state of the art in house pressing plant they implemented years before anybody had the balls to do it. Imho, TMR, does more for the music industry themselves then most other labels do. That includes all major labels. Listen to the latest vault package. It’s Mile Davis. TMR, re-presses recordings that havent been heard/pressed in many many years, when they decided to choose what gets pressed. I wish there were more in the industry that cared as much as Jack White cares about the preservation of all genres of music. I am not one bit surprised this series is amazing because i buy tons of pressings from TMR, and I tbh, am never displeased by any of them. Yeah, I sound biased, sure, but there is no denying that TMR is first rate becaause their attention to detail is also amazing. Just my two cents/observations.
Jack White has done more than most, releasing and promoting excellent, obscure garage and punk rock. I visited the London store for the first time last weekend. Quite fascinating that you can have a store like this on a prime address filled with records like Weather Warlock, Snooper, Tyvek and Human Eye. He deserves a lot of respect.
They were making tortillas on the records?
Flour tortillas.
Funny white substance i wonder if thats the hunter cut😂
Lol