Leman Russ after learning what the Inquisition did to the Celestial Lions, Black Dragons and other Space Marine chapters, as well as the Imperial Guard and civilians: *I, Leman Russ, would like to know the Inquisitions' location.*
I think thats what he is gonna do. even whean Guilliman is in charge. He´d say " Roboute, tell me where these bastards hide and i will cut out this cancer!"
@Matarael, Angel of Rain I would think 3 possibilities exist, the first he gathers the remnants of his legion and goes on a terror campaign, goes on a 1 man terror campaign, or let's himself get killed again.
With all this talk about loyalist Primarchs having... disagreements... with the Ecclesiarchy, I am reminded of something Bjorn once said: "God-Emperor? Calling him a god is what started this mess in the first place."
He shouldn't. Leman Russ is mostly talk and is so arrogant that would probably find a way to fuck it up as he always does. Remember Horus, terra defense, Magnus and Angron? Ahhh yes, the doggy boy who caused more harm than good and owns a legion of borderline heretical mutants.
I feel like this plays into the persona of Leman Russ rather the reality of Leman Russ. It was alluded to in “Fear to Tread” and was focused on in “Wolf Spear” that while Sanguinius was ferocity wrapped in the guise of nobility, Russ was a brilliant leader wrapped in the guise of a barbarian which lead many to underestimate him. Additionally that observation was made by Horus himself when discussing their initial meeting. Russ was the king he was expected to be by his men, but he had a much keener mind then given credit for.
If Leman Russ returned instead of Guilliman, Magnus would suffer a lot more on Luna that's for sure. And I for one think he would like primaris, their stability countering the Curse of the Wolven
Without Guilliman there would be no Primaris. Leman Russ is not a competent administrator and he does make deals behind the scenes like Guilliman. Cawl would not give him the Primaris.
Isn't Leman's personality an act? I'm sure I read that when he met the Emperor he was willing to tidy up his act and become a noble general but the Emperor told him no. Also, there are other hints of this like when Valdor was bantering with Leman in Prospero Burns book and pretty much said: "As amusing as it is to watch you play the Barbarian King, now is not the time."
I wish I could remeber the book, maybe Thousand sons? But I think it was Arhiman was speaking with another librarian while watching the Wolves do battle. The librarian said the wolves are savage beast and fight like it. Arhiman then said they are not savage, it take a lot of control a d discipline to fight the way they do. Arihman could see through the guise the Wolves put on and how efficiently they did battle.
I think the majority of Space Wolves are savages. The ones that we get the stories about are the few who stand out. Bjorn, Logan, Ragnar, Njal and Lukas are all exceptional by Space Wolf standards(delinquent in Lukas’ case).
Valrak, you forget about the civil war that was about to happen after the First Armageddon War between the Space Wolves against the Inquisition and the Grey Knights. Despite of their savage looks, Space Wolves are pretty chill and exceptionally loyal to their mortal friends, especially to those who fought by their side, Astartes or not. This is proven at the end of the First Armageddon War. When the First Armageddon War resolved, the Inquisition wanted to purge the Steel Legions because of the legion's incidental knowledge on Chaos and the daemons. This didn't fly well with the Space Wolves, particularly when they fought side-by-side against Chaos incursion. As usual, the situation escalated, and thanks to one action of _one dumbass Grand Master of the Grey Knights,_ a bloody conflict happened. The conflict was fortunately resolved, despite of the reluctance of the parties involved. However, imagine Leman Russ, who returned from the Warp, finally learned about such problem. ...Yeah, things can only go swimmingly with Russ and the Inquisition. P.S.: ...You know what? Valrak's video gives me an idea. For the next Alfabusa's TTSD podcast, why don't they -abduct- invite *_Ragnar Blackmane_* for a change? Karstodes can finally use his nominal knowledge on the _Vyla Fenryka_ in this session.
Disagree. 40k Space Wolves are like that. 30k VI Legion are monsters. Russ literally muzzled the VI Legion with alcohol and hero worship by taking them to Fenris.
Being a space wolves fanboy I want Russ to return no matter what and I love the idea of him being a older wiser grizzled version of himself but still be the big badass brute of a warrior we know and love, I do think Roboute aka Grandpa smurf to be the best choice to lead the imperium, and I feel roboute would know how to use Russ as an extremely effective weapon for the imperium, they both respected each other greatly although russ found roboute boring he respected his skill, and roboute counted Russ among his 'Dauntless few' and felt that with Russ and the wolves at his side he couldn't lose. as for the church and the inquisition, I think Russ would definitely not be pleased, and the inquisition would probably be shitting themselves because now they would have two primarchs on their asses, and the space wolves on their own have been a huge thorn in their side because they keep preventing them from carrying out their extermination of innocent civilians.
I agree and don't forget corax and the kahn, they've got to return at some point. Then it's game over for the church and maybe inquisition, although the inquisition maybe necessary
There would be Mjod for everyone. The planet of the sorcerers would be renamed planet of ashes. Lukas the trickster would be made a high lord of Terra for shits and giggles.
Leman Russ returns 101... +Grey Knights, Dark Angels and Ordo Malleus gather after recieving anonymous tip+ +doors explode inwards and fill fortress-monastery with smoke, Grey Knights brace themselves+ +in walks a massive figure followed closely by a dreadnought+ Leman Russ: "I have heard..." Supreme Grand Master: "Oh, bollocks." +entire chapters and ordo suffer a critical existence failure+
Remember that he was best buds with Valdor. That means.... Something. Leman also had words with Malcador. Leman knew the truth. Still did what Leman do.
1) assume all other events occur 2) Russ would have fought Magnus to the death on Luna and done everything he could to pursue him into the webway. 3) More of Ultramar would have suffered as he wouldn't care quite as much - but eventually he'd have won. 4) Primaris would have been acceptable/useful and Russ would be even more eager to return chapters to Legion size or larger given all of the changes - I'd say Russ would even have larger conscription movements for making as many space marines as possible. 5) Russ might make a bigger point of trying to find his brethren - i.e. Corax, Gulliman, Lion, etc. 6) He'd have made Cawl Fabricator general. 7) The Tyrannids would give him pause - but motivate for returning chapters to legion strength. I think all chapters would be encouraged to expand to 10k+ including Black Templars and Black Dragons etc. Not just a return to the old status quo. Never forget that primarchs are partly warp beings - so Russ would have learned more about himself in the Eye of Terror and maybe had more resistance to Magnus than before. Cawl would make him some cool equipment too.
Magnus in the Fenris System: "Now I shall take my revenge on the Fenrisian Dogs! And there will be no one to stop me! All according to plan! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA" Lemun Russ appears: "Sup, bro. How's your back? Lulz" Magnus: "RAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE!"
Not to shatter the concept of a lot of these videos, but would Cawl even reveal himself if Guilliman did not return? Seemed like from his point of view, if Guilliman didnt come back I dont think Cawl would even reveal the Primaris project. He is a Techpriest so if the condition for the Primaris project is not met he might just keep working on them in secret.
You are most likely right, but if another Primarch came back, I could see Cawl revealing the Primaris to him so that he could reveal them. Remember that Cawl had to be told by Guilliman not to mess with traitor gene-seed, and even then Gillian believed he would listen. He might reveal the primaris just so that he knows that everything he has done for the last 10,000 years was not just to be labeled a heretek.
@@robertnelson9599 Fair points and given Cawl's more "flexible" thinking he might have revealed himself when the Cicitrix Maledictum tore it's way through the galaxy especially if a Loyalist Primarch showed up. "These parameters are with the margin of error, begin Ultima Founding"
Russ was calculating! He wasn’t rage on two legs! He calculated Angron into a trap prior to the heresy. Your facts are wrong. Was a bit hard headed? Yes, but there was a cold calculated warrior. He wouldn’t be able to fill G man’s shoes, but don’t make him seem like an idiot.
I can see a few things would happen. 1. Russ and the Inquisition have a 'talk' along with the Lord's of Terra. 2. Primaris would be different, more close combat over range in the squad set up. 3. I can see Russ more open to the Eldar and maybe the Tau for their tactical uses in war, Roboute maybe a statesman but Russ is the Lord of War and Winter.
Nothing, Absolutely Nothing. I am not too fond of Girly-man ... but .. he is THE MOST suitable Primarch to return. For he is the only one amongst them all who knows how to deal with complex human systems and logistics. Not just from his experience, but that is also his specialization as the Emperor intended and DESIGNED him to be. Guilliman being a statesman, a politician, a logistics expert, economics expert, a policy expert (even with his massive amounts and very large mistakes), in comparison to all other Primarchs (except MAYBE Corax), No one and I mean no one is more suited to maintaining the Imperium and preventing it from systematic collapse, as would have been the case after the fall of Cadia. I am not even considering upgrading the Imperium or even Cleaning UP the Imperium.
EXACTLY! Guilliman might not be the coolest primarch, but he is the prim arch the Imperium needed. If the other Primarchs returned now, then Guilliman will have patched up the Imperium enough to survive the reforms the other loyalists would want to make. (They all would want to abolish the Adeptus Ministorum, and Corax stated that the Space Marines should have access to more powerful navies).
Gilliman is most suitable to be Regent. Leman Russ would be very effective as Warmaster in the modern Imperium. But to start improving the Imperium, you are going to need at least 3 primarchs that can work together well.
I think he would do something similar to Gulliman, focus on fixing the imperium, a lot of people just see Russ as just a Warrior only focused on fighting , But he's much much more than that.
What if Lorgar realised he was duped by Erebus and Kor Pharon after Monarchia and found a way to wrest himself and his Legion away from the chaos gods after executing E and K-Ph?
In short - Russ would have returned with Isha, healed the Emperor and the Emperor would have said to him: Leman; join me, and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son!
Haven't watched the video yet, but I am still going to respond :3 The Empire would be a better place with out a doubt ;) Hey why are you looking at me like that, bias what bias ? I have no biased towards the space wolves what so ever xD
Basically Leman Russ would just start fucking killing everyone, challenge angron to a duel and take a shit on Magnus' lawn. Then he would wander off and get drunk.
If Leman Russ returned instead of Guilliman. *"What the fuck do you mean by destroying dissident Space Marine Chapters!"* *"Now you listen here Inquisitor, I'm the Son of the Emperor. You are nothing more but a glorified Servitor. To challenge me is to invite war with my Sons, their successors, their allies and whatever favors they had collected."* *"Same goes for you Priest, see to it that the Ministorum is kept clean of treacherous snakes."*
Please dont ever stop making videos! I am officially addicted to your content. Great as always and very decisive look into the 40k universe and its endless possibilities!
Next video should be about a Primarch that we know is alive- that’s right let’s talk about the Great Khan himself Jaghatai Khan the Primarch of the White Scars
I want to see how Russ would react to find out that there has been space wolves that turned to Chaos, especially losing the Wolf of Fenris due to betrayal of some Space Wolves and follow on allegiance to Huron.
If the Emperor wanted the church destroyed he would have by now. He spoke psychically to people for a long time after internment on the throne. He definitely would have said something to Guilliman, and Bobby G seems to be planning on leaving the church intact. Believe has power, the Emperor probably needs that power to keep doing what he does as the throne fails.
having an ad-mech army i would consider crawl a "loose cannon" of the tech-priests i would think that russ's return he would have a powerful ally as i would have expected constantin valdor to return as well and the pair of them would wield a lot of power over the eccelsarry as valdor having sutch a close relationship to the emperor can be a powerful tool to get rid of the religion
As much as I want my primarch to break magnus again, I feel that leman would make attempts to show his regret for prospero. Maybe he could show magnus the light and bring him back to the imperium.
Bjorn was not the second in command of RUSS, he was the least experienced of Russ's inner circle, all of which but him left with Russ on his hunt. Bjorn then tells his brothers 10,000 years from then of the stories he has to tell.
On one hand, could be awesome, on the other hand... Wolfy wolf of wolf naming syndrome would shoot up to 11 in the Imperium. Given past experience, we'd probably have Primaris Marines renamed to something weird like Canis Primus Marines.
I disagree about Russ' denial of the church. In the prologue to Wolfsbane he described the Emperor as a god. At times he could be as spiritual as Lorgar, and enjoyed his writing. He'd despise the Inquisition but I think Russ is the only Primarch who would understand the church, not agree but at least understand it
To Be Honest, it's Doesn't Matter who will come Next !!, Imperium Need More Loyal Primarhs to Return!!,So That Imperium Forces Have a Chance to win This Endless War !!,As Emperor Said once... there's always Must Be a Balance,if you Broke that it's leads to Donfall of all Things -Horus Heresy Book , Good Work as always 😎-Ave Imperator 😘 !!!.
Bellisaurius Cawl is a INVENTOR! Mechanicum: GASP HERETECH! Belisarius: Yes i made NEW things, I IMPROVED things. you are all just dusty crusty bastards!
What if the second Russ entered the eye with his great company, he pops out again in the current 40k time line... Like a time hop. The sight of the wolf king returning from the eye with a full great company of heresy veterans who start their crusade towards terra from the other side of the galaxy. RAGNAROK
Think it’ll be cool to see leman come back almost like a wulfen since he has the curse in his gene seed. Or least since we know the wulfen curse is in the primaris marines to show some character specific primaris guys. Wulfen primaris or some primaris bezerkers or riding some other beast idk something awesome.
he would call everyone a bunch of milksops and then like the supremely loyal son that he is he would proceed to just beat the everliving snot out of anything that goes against the emperors imperial truth and a civil war would absolutely happen, and id love every second of it
Honestly, Guilliman needs two primarchs to return. Russ… and Rogal Dorn. Guilliman is the head, he’s the one who needs to be on terra, he needs to be able to fix the internal imperium. Dorn is his shield, Dorn digs in, improves, and manages the greater war effort. All the while Russ is the spear. He’s the one leading the crusades, the one ripping across the galaxy and tearing into their foes. Russ is admittedly the part of this equation that is least necessary for the bigger picture to develop. Dorn and Guilliman can handle a large scale military undertaking with ease and with two of them would be able to handle the issue. Russ however is the key to actually going on the offensive fully. He’s required so that Dorn and Guilliman can actively fix the Imperium’s problems. Every time Guilliman has to run off to fight he has to take a half step back on all his reforms. If Guilliman can concentrate fully on fixing the Imperium’s political and logistical issues he would succeed within a century. Dorn meanwhile is the stabilizing influence, consolidating gains and establishing supply routes to Russ. People say the Lion should come back, he would play Russ’s part and have a full legion. I disagree, the Lion CAN’T come back, at least not as he was, if the imperium wants to succeed. The trio above work because they all have absolute trust and loyalty. The Lion has loyalty but without trust it means nothing.
Thankfully, this instability was greatly ameliorated after the Legion's re-unification with its Primarch Leman Russ, though some cases of the gene-breakdown crisis, known now in the Legion as the "Curse of the Wulfen," persisted but were relatively rare. This was the case at least until the psychic cataclysm which marked the final deadly act of the Battle of Prospero. At that time, the curse was visited upon the VI Legion in numbers and to a degree never before seen, particularly in the case of the warriors of the all-but-lost 13th Great Company, whose Astartes fell by the hundreds to the curse's terrible effects. In the present era of the late 41st Millennium, the Canis Helix is derived from a unique segment of the genome of the Chapter's Primarch and is actually a genetic catalyst imbibed by the Chapter's Aspirants to begin their physical transformation into superhuman Astartes. This last part makes it sound as if 6th legion primaris should not even be a thing. Yep sounds like someone who is going to jump at the idea of Bland vanilla space wolfs
GW sorted of answered it in the first video of Guilliman's return. They said that if Russ returned and had seem the churchs to the Emperor he would go on a bloody rampage.
I think you pointed out very well why I am convinced that Leman Russ was the last primarch that they needed to bring back first.for all of the badass that he can be, his lack of ability to organize the imperium would probably bring it to its end. Now the Gulliman is back first, Russ would be the best one to add to the story as Gulliman is the best remaining at running the imperium and Russ is the best remaining hammer of the imperium. If this storyline is going where I think it will, I can't wait to watch Gulliman and Dorne run the imperium while Russ and Johnson lead the new legions.
I would love to see Leman come back but still young with some sort of psychic ability from being in the warp. Seeing how GW coming out with spacewolf and TS new box sets bringing him back with a unit of wolf gaurd he took with him would be a good spark of a old rivalry.
Russ was never the stickler for Imperial Truth that Guilliman and the Lion were, and nor was the Khan; and while he is headstrong, he’s far from stupid. We’ve seen him use cunning and guile when he felt the need. Never seen Russ speak highly of Guilliman. I did however see him say he could beat RG because he never truly enjoys fighting.
Russ would try and tame/break the inquisition - probably use the Custodes to do it and the Grey Knights as they are only kinda sorta inquisitiony but independent-ish. But mostly use Custodes and Sisters of Silence to break them. I would haha.
I thought Bjorn was the youngest of Russ's Wolf Guard. He was left behind because he was the youngest and more of an idealist and a leader vs heroic fighter. He could handle himself in a fight but he was more of a leader who could inspire others to fight and he had a vision of where the Legion should go and how it should operate. I agree that Russ would have cast down the Ecclesiarchy and would have gone to war with them. I see him as someone who would have rallied the Space Marines to his side to over throw them because he would not have agreed with them or their methods. That wasn't what the Great Crusades were for.
I had an idea called the Russ Revolution. When all six living loyalist Primarchs have returned, but three of them are so unhappy with the state of the Imperium that they seek to overthrow it and replace it with a new Imperium that is more in line with the Emperor’s ideals. Unlike the Horus Heresy which is loyalist vs traitor, both the Revolutionists and the Imperialists are Loyal to the Emperor, but believe each other to be traitors. I imagine it would end with the Emperor somehow recovering and telling both sides to knock it off.
The warp being timeless means that Russ would probably look just like he did the day he left. Additionally he would have some warp abilities. What is interesting is that we don't have any stories from anyone - even from the side of Chaos about Russ - so...maybe he is lost? Maybe is is on a quest elsewhere, maybe he emerged already and has his mind scrambled and is on some distant world never discovered and added to the Imperium. There are 100 billion stars in the MW... What quest would keep him away? If he does come back - I think Corax will find him and they will come back together. Maybe with Trajan Valoris. what would keep Trajan away from the light of the Emperor for 10k+ years after having served him for at least that long? I think Trajan is likely in search of a way to heal the Emperor - perhaps he is in the Black Library?
dead highlords dead inquisitors..and a civil war that seems disadvantageous to the imperium, until an outside enemy tries to take advantage of the conflict.
It might not be fully confirmed, but it's _very_ heavily hinted that the _Vlka Fenryka_ were responsible for the disappearance of at least one of the Lost Legions. In _Prospero Burns,_ Kasper Hawser is talking to Russ about their impending attack on Prospero (and you'd think that Russ would have double-checked after the Emperor's orders suddenly changed from "Arrest Magnus and bring him back to Terra to explain himself" to "Wipe out the Thousand Sons, burn Prospero to the ground and salt the earth") and says something about how Astartes attacking Astartes is unprecedented. Russ simply replies that it's not actually as unprecedented as Hawser thinks it is. 8:15 He's a senior cogboy - being a weirdo comes with the territory With regards to the Thor comparison, maybe he'd be more like the Thor from Ragnarok or even Infinity War compared to when he first showed up in the MCU.
So far, it seems like the only one that is an overall positive is Sanguinius and Guilliman. Sanguinius actually using, and imo probably subtly reforming, the Imperial Faith would be an absolute boon. Given that at the very least the conviction in the God-Emperor has an effect against Chaos. Plus the huge morale bonus. And then Papa Smurf, as you said, being the Statesman.
I would be interested to see what would happen if Horus unexpectidly returned on the side of the Imperium (yes, I know it will never happen) but as he was dying he regretted his actions, and if he returned as a loyal primarch it would be fascinating to watch!
Next Primarch I want back is... Fulgrim's Clone. Would be interesting to have a traitor Primarch return next although he hasn't betrayed The Imperium. Would be very dramatic to say the least especially if Trazyn delivered him to The Imperium as a show of Unity against the REAL threat. Tyranids. The Necrons could even help out out The Golden Throne a lot better than ANY Eldar. The Phoenix Reborn. Plus a Necron Alliance Pact all in One. With the Eldar already having a Pact with The Imperium. Things are starting to coalesce.
@@The_Murder_Party I mean really... Wby the fuck not? Gullimen don't give a fuck about Xenophobia at this point.. Chaos is Rampant and The Orcs are getting snappy and for fuck sake.. The Tyranids are just gerting started. Time to start working together
Dommy Dench I mean the necrons though? Can you really trust them? I think the closest you come is basically “ok, now you stay on your side of the cekatricx manidictum we’ll stay on ours till X threat is extinguished," the closest you come to a true alliance is the Tau who’ve been convinced that the Athema *is* the greater good, or chaos, Magnimagic might help, others could as ordered by their respective gods because without potential worshipers you can’t exist so purgeing the tyranids?e
There would be a lot less Empire building and a lot more shoving pointy things into Chaos deamon faces, eating heretics, and consumption of absurd amounts of alcohol. And the Indominus Crusade would be renamed the "Great Wolf Rock N Fuck Tour M42", which would take the form of the Space Wolves (with Primarus on bass) roving the galaxy killing everything that wasn't human and fucking everything that was.
That’s a lot of good thoughts Chapter Master Valrak however one big thing you forget and a lot of people do this is time is almost non existent in the warp. It flows very differently there than in real space. Also note that those that go there especially for long periods of time change. Look at the Eldar race who was lost in the eye of terror for thousands of years and they are more resistant to the warp than humans including Primarchs corax has been there pretty much for 10000 years and has become something more but daemon not human something better, stronger but also more twisted. Something if Leman russ came back he would be more Wolfen and very animalistic then ever before. The only Primarchs that are not effected are those who are either still in the imperium space or in the web way. Just a wee bit of extra lore for you 😊 Also on a side note that I’m sure someone has mentioned is the whole idea of the order 66 but has anyone actually realised that what’s happening right now in the imperium has already happened once before. I foresee another heresy. Guilliman is the emperor replaced and the primaris are the Astartes to the thunder warriors. The time will come that they will be wiped out again. The legions are being brought back and chapters replaced a war is coming.
I think that Russ would be torn when fighting Magnus as he now knows he caused the Thousand sons to fall, due to being tricked by Horus. With the ecclesiarchy I believe that Russ would try to bring them down and possibly go to war with the church as they're against the Emperor's vision and used his name for their own means
Leman Russ after learning what the Inquisition did to the Celestial Lions, Black Dragons and other Space Marine chapters, as well as the Imperial Guard and civilians:
*I, Leman Russ, would like to know the Inquisitions' location.*
I'd start with Saturn's moon Titan.
I think thats what he is gonna do. even whean Guilliman is in charge. He´d say " Roboute, tell me where these bastards hide and i will cut out this cancer!"
What if the eldar brought back Konrad Kurze? XD
Not to mention the months of shame following the first war for armageddon
@Matarael, Angel of Rain I would think 3 possibilities exist, the first he gathers the remnants of his legion and goes on a terror campaign, goes on a 1 man terror campaign, or let's himself get killed again.
With all this talk about loyalist Primarchs having... disagreements... with the Ecclesiarchy, I am reminded of something Bjorn once said:
"God-Emperor? Calling him a god is what started this mess in the first place."
And this is why we love Bjorn.
Give that Marine/Dreadnought a PHD cause that is some serious brain power.
"What if Leman Russ returns?" Abaddon: *sweats profusely* "i don't fear him! Not at all!"
He shouldn't. Leman Russ is mostly talk and is so arrogant that would probably find a way to fuck it up as he always does. Remember Horus, terra defense, Magnus and Angron? Ahhh yes, the doggy boy who caused more harm than good and owns a legion of borderline heretical mutants.
@@gabzsy4924 Five months late, but most of those aren't even his fault. You're just a damn wolf hater.
@Teun vanderLugt the angel would deck both russ and lion in two seconds and tell them to grow up lol
The Angel was too busy fearing his own wings.
Next video: What if my wife returned instead of Guilliman?
sad
then i would have bought your wife instead.
Oof, harsh.
Ok. This made me laugh out loud!
Then Slaanesh would be pleased ;)
I feel like this plays into the persona of Leman Russ rather the reality of Leman Russ. It was alluded to in “Fear to Tread” and was focused on in “Wolf Spear” that while Sanguinius was ferocity wrapped in the guise of nobility, Russ was a brilliant leader wrapped in the guise of a barbarian which lead many to underestimate him. Additionally that observation was made by Horus himself when discussing their initial meeting. Russ was the king he was expected to be by his men, but he had a much keener mind then given credit for.
I think Alpharius the novel is the only time we really see Russ showing both sides.
If Leman Russ returned instead of Guilliman, Magnus would suffer a lot more on Luna that's for sure. And I for one think he would like primaris, their stability countering the Curse of the Wolven
"Wulfen"
@@robertnelson9599 "Digganobz."
In the codex under the interceptors it mentions that the primarius mods doesn't make them immune to curse of the wulfen
@@Ulfhednir9 Not immune, it makes it stable. Like Blood Angel primaris that still have Red Thirst but not Black Rage. You can thank Cawl for that.
Without Guilliman there would be no Primaris. Leman Russ is not a competent administrator and he does make deals behind the scenes like Guilliman. Cawl would not give him the Primaris.
Isn't Leman's personality an act? I'm sure I read that when he met the Emperor he was willing to tidy up his act and become a noble general but the Emperor told him no. Also, there are other hints of this like when Valdor was bantering with Leman in Prospero Burns book and pretty much said: "As amusing as it is to watch you play the Barbarian King, now is not the time."
I wish I could remeber the book, maybe Thousand sons? But I think it was Arhiman was speaking with another librarian while watching the Wolves do battle. The librarian said the wolves are savage beast and fight like it. Arhiman then said they are not savage, it take a lot of control a d discipline to fight the way they do. Arihman could see through the guise the Wolves put on and how efficiently they did battle.
@@MrJdub454 yah space marines tend to take on traits of the primarch this is why the space wolves tend to act like savages despite being very tactical
I think the majority of Space Wolves are savages.
The ones that we get the stories about are the few who stand out.
Bjorn, Logan, Ragnar, Njal and Lukas are all exceptional by Space Wolf standards(delinquent in Lukas’ case).
Yes, he was so smart that he obeyed Horus' order to commit genocide upon Magnus' world without any critical thinking.
Valrak, you forget about the civil war that was about to happen after the First Armageddon War between the Space Wolves against the Inquisition and the Grey Knights.
Despite of their savage looks, Space Wolves are pretty chill and exceptionally loyal to their mortal friends, especially to those who fought by their side, Astartes or not. This is proven at the end of the First Armageddon War.
When the First Armageddon War resolved, the Inquisition wanted to purge the Steel Legions because of the legion's incidental knowledge on Chaos and the daemons. This didn't fly well with the Space Wolves, particularly when they fought side-by-side against Chaos incursion. As usual, the situation escalated, and thanks to one action of _one dumbass Grand Master of the Grey Knights,_ a bloody conflict happened.
The conflict was fortunately resolved, despite of the reluctance of the parties involved. However, imagine Leman Russ, who returned from the Warp, finally learned about such problem.
...Yeah, things can only go swimmingly with Russ and the Inquisition.
P.S.: ...You know what? Valrak's video gives me an idea.
For the next Alfabusa's TTSD podcast, why don't they -abduct- invite *_Ragnar Blackmane_* for a change?
Karstodes can finally use his nominal knowledge on the _Vyla Fenryka_ in this session.
Disagree.
40k Space Wolves are like that.
30k VI Legion are monsters.
Russ literally muzzled the VI Legion with alcohol and hero worship by taking them to Fenris.
Being a space wolves fanboy I want Russ to return no matter what and I love the idea of him being a older wiser grizzled version of himself but still be the big badass brute of a warrior we know and love, I do think Roboute aka Grandpa smurf to be the best choice to lead the imperium, and I feel roboute would know how to use Russ as an extremely effective weapon for the imperium, they both respected each other greatly although russ found roboute boring he respected his skill, and roboute counted Russ among his 'Dauntless few' and felt that with Russ and the wolves at his side he couldn't lose.
as for the church and the inquisition, I think Russ would definitely not be pleased, and the inquisition would probably be shitting themselves because now they would have two primarchs on their asses, and the space wolves on their own have been a huge thorn in their side because they keep preventing them from carrying out their extermination of innocent civilians.
I agree and don't forget corax and the kahn, they've got to return at some point. Then it's game over for the church and maybe inquisition, although the inquisition maybe necessary
There would be Mjod for everyone. The planet of the sorcerers would be renamed planet of ashes.
Lukas the trickster would be made a high lord of Terra for shits and giggles.
Lord Commander Lukas Jackalwolf. Glorious.
Lukas would be the best high lord the Imperium ever had, besides Malcador
Muh boi Leman would clean up the government of the Imperium but he'd still need Guilliman to reorganize it.
Leman Russ returns 101...
+Grey Knights, Dark Angels and Ordo Malleus gather after recieving anonymous tip+
+doors explode inwards and fill fortress-monastery with smoke, Grey Knights brace themselves+
+in walks a massive figure followed closely by a dreadnought+
Leman Russ: "I have heard..."
Supreme Grand Master: "Oh, bollocks."
+entire chapters and ordo suffer a critical existence failure+
We wouldn't have Primaris Marines
We would have Corgi bois
more bear, more fight, more fun stuff
Remember that he was best buds with Valdor. That means.... Something.
Leman also had words with Malcador. Leman knew the truth. Still did what Leman do.
oh boy, the ecclesiarchy and the inquisition would be in for a fun time
1) assume all other events occur
2) Russ would have fought Magnus to the death on Luna and done everything he could to pursue him into the webway.
3) More of Ultramar would have suffered as he wouldn't care quite as much - but eventually he'd have won.
4) Primaris would have been acceptable/useful and Russ would be even more eager to return chapters to Legion size or larger given all of the changes - I'd say Russ would even have larger conscription movements for making as many space marines as possible.
5) Russ might make a bigger point of trying to find his brethren - i.e. Corax, Gulliman, Lion, etc.
6) He'd have made Cawl Fabricator general.
7) The Tyrannids would give him pause - but motivate for returning chapters to legion strength. I think all chapters would be encouraged to expand to 10k+ including Black Templars and Black Dragons etc. Not just a return to the old status quo.
Never forget that primarchs are partly warp beings - so Russ would have learned more about himself in the Eye of Terror and maybe had more resistance to Magnus than before. Cawl would make him some cool equipment too.
The orginal Lemen Russ just played the savage, He was much deeper then most realised
It would lead to the largest collectively said "Oh Sh&t" in history since The Drop Site Accidental Weapon Discharge.
You can bet your power ass that the whole Imperium would have a galactic hangover the day after his return.
Magnus in the Fenris System: "Now I shall take my revenge on the Fenrisian Dogs! And there will be no one to stop me! All according to plan! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
Lemun Russ appears: "Sup, bro. How's your back? Lulz"
Magnus: "RAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE!"
Janus Severian I PUNCHED OUT ONE OF HIS HEARTS! WHY DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THAT?!?!
xtracool12 Cause Magnus never done that... Lionel Johnson did
F*cking Furries!!!!!!!!!!
*ABSOLUTELY INCANDESCENT*
Then Lukas shows up “OI! Yah big red baby! Ready for round TWO?!”
Not to shatter the concept of a lot of these videos, but would Cawl even reveal himself if Guilliman did not return? Seemed like from his point of view, if Guilliman didnt come back I dont think Cawl would even reveal the Primaris project. He is a Techpriest so if the condition for the Primaris project is not met he might just keep working on them in secret.
You are most likely right, but if another Primarch came back, I could see Cawl revealing the Primaris to him so that he could reveal them. Remember that Cawl had to be told by Guilliman not to mess with traitor gene-seed, and even then Gillian believed he would listen. He might reveal the primaris just so that he knows that everything he has done for the last 10,000 years was not just to be labeled a heretek.
@@robertnelson9599 Fair points and given Cawl's more "flexible" thinking he might have revealed himself when the Cicitrix Maledictum tore it's way through the galaxy especially if a Loyalist Primarch showed up. "These parameters are with the margin of error, begin Ultima Founding"
@@robertnelson9599 1 Million Primaris Space Wolves.. Oh Boi.. now we are talking about kickin Chaos and Xenos Ass hrhrhrhr
Russ was calculating! He wasn’t rage on two legs! He calculated Angron into a trap prior to the heresy. Your facts are wrong. Was a bit hard headed? Yes, but there was a cold calculated warrior. He wouldn’t be able to fill G man’s shoes, but don’t make him seem like an idiot.
The Lord of Winter and War was a cold, calculating warrior? Sounds like poetry.
I would say Corax next ... But .... He is already returned just no one has noticed ;p
He's doing the funky chicken on demons heads in the Warp atm.
@@dommydench4693 best line in that story. " I have your scent now brother."
@@jackrook8715 Yeah just let him do his thing. Lol
Lorgar knows and he is scared. The raven will be seen when he desires it, not before. His powers seem to have increased.
I can see a few things would happen.
1. Russ and the Inquisition have a 'talk' along with the Lord's of Terra.
2. Primaris would be different, more close combat over range in the squad set up.
3. I can see Russ more open to the Eldar and maybe the Tau for their tactical uses in war, Roboute maybe a statesman but Russ is the Lord of War and Winter.
Vulkan’s looking a bit different these days
Nothing, Absolutely Nothing.
I am not too fond of Girly-man ... but .. he is THE MOST suitable Primarch to return.
For he is the only one amongst them all who knows how to deal with complex human systems and logistics. Not just from his experience, but that is also his specialization as the Emperor intended and DESIGNED him to be.
Guilliman being a statesman, a politician, a logistics expert, economics expert, a policy expert (even with his massive amounts and very large mistakes), in comparison to all other Primarchs (except MAYBE Corax), No one and I mean no one is more suited to maintaining the Imperium and preventing it from systematic collapse, as would have been the case after the fall of Cadia. I am not even considering upgrading the Imperium or even Cleaning UP the Imperium.
EXACTLY! Guilliman might not be the coolest primarch, but he is the prim arch the Imperium needed. If the other Primarchs returned now, then Guilliman will have patched up the Imperium enough to survive the reforms the other loyalists would want to make. (They all would want to abolish the Adeptus Ministorum, and Corax stated that the Space Marines should have access to more powerful navies).
Gilliman is most suitable to be Regent. Leman Russ would be very effective as Warmaster in the modern Imperium.
But to start improving the Imperium, you are going to need at least 3 primarchs that can work together well.
Leman russ will be the champion of humanity and not even Abandon with is plot armor will survive
I can imagine him returning with one eye just like Odin.
Step 1: PARTY!
Step 2: PARTY HARDER!
Step 3: ???
Step 4: He has Khorne in a chokehold and he is just getting started!
Pretty sure there is a quote somewhere in a novel that i read, where magnus stated he knows the location of Russ.
Might be battle of the Fang.
I think he would do something similar to Gulliman, focus on fixing the imperium, a lot of people just see Russ as just a Warrior only focused on fighting , But he's much much more than that.
What if Lorgar realised he was duped by Erebus and Kor Pharon after Monarchia and found a way to wrest himself and his Legion away from the chaos gods after executing E and K-Ph?
In short - Russ would have returned with Isha, healed the Emperor and the Emperor would have said to him: Leman; join me, and together we can rule the galaxy as father and son!
Russ comes back with Isha and brings Big E back to life...
Haven't watched the video yet, but I am still going to respond :3
The Empire would be a better place with out a doubt ;)
Hey why are you looking at me like that, bias what bias ?
I have no biased towards the space wolves what so ever xD
Wolfenbach *mutters in Crimson King...*
I cant wait to see Bjorns reunion with Russ. 10k years of such loyalty
Basically Leman Russ would just start fucking killing everyone, challenge angron to a duel and take a shit on Magnus' lawn. Then he would wander off and get drunk.
If Leman Russ returned instead of Guilliman.
*"What the fuck do you mean by destroying dissident Space Marine Chapters!"*
*"Now you listen here Inquisitor, I'm the Son of the Emperor. You are nothing more but a glorified Servitor. To challenge me is to invite war with my Sons, their successors, their allies and whatever favors they had collected."*
*"Same goes for you Priest, see to it that the Ministorum is kept clean of treacherous snakes."*
Please dont ever stop making videos! I am officially addicted to your content. Great as always and very decisive look into the 40k universe and its endless possibilities!
"I'll be right back"
-last known words of leman russ
He is currently trying to find the tree of life. Little does he now the tree of life is the elder god of nature.
He comes back much older, with one eye. A godlike warrior king.
If he came back then he’d drive the whole imperium into a massive crusade.
Next video should be about a Primarch that we know is alive- that’s right let’s talk about the Great Khan himself Jaghatai Khan the Primarch of the White Scars
Imagine telling guilliman 'you were only made to do the documents'.
Leman Russ would have whupped the other marine detachments into shape and kicked all chaos back into the warp, all the while, sipping on their tears!
I want to see how Russ would react to find out that there has been space wolves that turned to Chaos, especially losing the Wolf of Fenris due to betrayal of some Space Wolves and follow on allegiance to Huron.
If the Emperor wanted the church destroyed he would have by now. He spoke psychically to people for a long time after internment on the throne.
He definitely would have said something to Guilliman, and Bobby G seems to be planning on leaving the church intact.
Believe has power, the Emperor probably needs that power to keep doing what he does as the throne fails.
having an ad-mech army i would consider crawl a "loose cannon" of the tech-priests
i would think that russ's return he would have a powerful ally as i would have expected constantin valdor to return as well and the pair of them would wield a lot of power over the eccelsarry as valdor having sutch a close relationship to the emperor can be a powerful tool to get rid of the religion
As much as I want my primarch to break magnus again, I feel that leman would make attempts to show his regret for prospero. Maybe he could show magnus the light and bring him back to the imperium.
Bjorn was not the second in command of RUSS, he was the least experienced of Russ's inner circle, all of which but him left with Russ on his hunt. Bjorn then tells his brothers 10,000 years from then of the stories he has to tell.
Leman Russ returned.(Wulfen)
Guilliman: Who lost dog?!
Next video : What if Horus returned instead of Guilliman?
He did. Abby took care of him
On one hand, could be awesome, on the other hand... Wolfy wolf of wolf naming syndrome would shoot up to 11 in the Imperium. Given past experience, we'd probably have Primaris Marines renamed to something weird like Canis Primus Marines.
I am trained in WOLF WARFARE!
Wolfare
I disagree about Russ' denial of the church. In the prologue to Wolfsbane he described the Emperor as a god. At times he could be as spiritual as Lorgar, and enjoyed his writing. He'd despise the Inquisition but I think Russ is the only Primarch who would understand the church, not agree but at least understand it
In First Heretic Magnus tells Lorgar that Russ stood up for Lorgar on the topic of religion main because of Fenrisian peoples beliefs in gods.
Russ looks like he's forcing out a monster dump.
To Be Honest, it's Doesn't Matter who will come Next !!, Imperium Need More Loyal Primarhs to Return!!,So That Imperium Forces Have a Chance to win This Endless War !!,As Emperor Said once... there's always Must Be a Balance,if you Broke that it's leads to Donfall of all Things -Horus Heresy Book , Good Work as always 😎-Ave Imperator 😘 !!!.
DARTH BANE I mean... you could have just *not* betrayed Magnimagic.
Magnus the red : (Burst out of the wall) " *FUCKING FURRIES* "
Bellisaurius Cawl is a INVENTOR!
Mechanicum: GASP HERETECH!
Belisarius: Yes i made NEW things, I IMPROVED things. you are all just dusty crusty bastards!
What if the second Russ entered the eye with his great company, he pops out again in the current 40k time line... Like a time hop. The sight of the wolf king returning from the eye with a full great company of heresy veterans who start their crusade towards terra from the other side of the galaxy. RAGNAROK
Magnus confronting Russ the way he did Girlyman would have actually made sense given thats his nemesis.
Think it’ll be cool to see leman come back almost like a wulfen since he has the curse in his gene seed. Or least since we know the wulfen curse is in the primaris marines to show some character specific primaris guys. Wulfen primaris or some primaris bezerkers or riding some other beast idk something awesome.
he would call everyone a bunch of milksops and then like the supremely loyal son that he is he would proceed to just beat the everliving snot out of anything that goes against the emperors imperial truth and a civil war would absolutely happen, and id love every second of it
Honestly, Guilliman needs two primarchs to return. Russ… and Rogal Dorn. Guilliman is the head, he’s the one who needs to be on terra, he needs to be able to fix the internal imperium. Dorn is his shield, Dorn digs in, improves, and manages the greater war effort. All the while Russ is the spear. He’s the one leading the crusades, the one ripping across the galaxy and tearing into their foes. Russ is admittedly the part of this equation that is least necessary for the bigger picture to develop. Dorn and Guilliman can handle a large scale military undertaking with ease and with two of them would be able to handle the issue. Russ however is the key to actually going on the offensive fully. He’s required so that Dorn and Guilliman can actively fix the Imperium’s problems. Every time Guilliman has to run off to fight he has to take a half step back on all his reforms. If Guilliman can concentrate fully on fixing the Imperium’s political and logistical issues he would succeed within a century. Dorn meanwhile is the stabilizing influence, consolidating gains and establishing supply routes to Russ. People say the Lion should come back, he would play Russ’s part and have a full legion. I disagree, the Lion CAN’T come back, at least not as he was, if the imperium wants to succeed. The trio above work because they all have absolute trust and loyalty. The Lion has loyalty but without trust it means nothing.
Thankfully, this instability was greatly ameliorated after the Legion's re-unification with its Primarch Leman Russ, though some cases of the gene-breakdown crisis, known now in the Legion as the "Curse of the Wulfen," persisted but were relatively rare. This was the case at least until the psychic cataclysm which marked the final deadly act of the Battle of Prospero.
At that time, the curse was visited upon the VI Legion in numbers and to a degree never before seen, particularly in the case of the warriors of the all-but-lost 13th Great Company, whose Astartes fell by the hundreds to the curse's terrible effects.
In the present era of the late 41st Millennium, the Canis Helix is derived from a unique segment of the genome of the Chapter's Primarch and is actually a genetic catalyst imbibed by the Chapter's Aspirants to begin their physical transformation into superhuman Astartes.
This last part makes it sound as if 6th legion primaris should not even be a thing.
Yep sounds like someone who is going to jump at the idea of Bland vanilla space wolfs
GW sorted of answered it in the first video of Guilliman's return.
They said that if Russ returned and had seem the churchs to the Emperor he would go on a bloody rampage.
I think you pointed out very well why I am convinced that Leman Russ was the last primarch that they needed to bring back first.for all of the badass that he can be, his lack of ability to organize the imperium would probably bring it to its end.
Now the Gulliman is back first, Russ would be the best one to add to the story as Gulliman is the best remaining at running the imperium and Russ is the best remaining hammer of the imperium.
If this storyline is going where I think it will, I can't wait to watch Gulliman and Dorne run the imperium while Russ and Johnson lead the new legions.
*Russ to the Inquisition* Don’t talk to me or my sons ever again
I would love to see Leman come back but still young with some sort of psychic ability from being in the warp. Seeing how GW coming out with spacewolf and TS new box sets bringing him back with a unit of wolf gaurd he took with him would be a good spark of a old rivalry.
I DID NOT LEAVE!!
Russ was never the stickler for Imperial Truth that Guilliman and the Lion were, and nor was the Khan; and while he is headstrong, he’s far from stupid. We’ve seen him use cunning and guile when he felt the need.
Never seen Russ speak highly of Guilliman. I did however see him say he could beat RG because he never truly enjoys fighting.
Russ comes back....in the words of Biggie
"Kick in the door , waving the 4 4.
All you heard was papa don't hit me no more"
Awesome video bro, my man Russ.
"Ye need more wolves in yer wolves because wolves're STRONG!!!"
Question : What if Leman Russ ALSO returned ? :)
Chances are Leman will still be young, as time flows different in the warp
Russ would try and tame/break the inquisition - probably use the Custodes to do it and the Grey Knights as they are only kinda sorta inquisitiony but independent-ish. But mostly use Custodes and Sisters of Silence to break them. I would haha.
Here's an out there return for you, how about the perfect clone of Fulgrim...
I would love to see an older, wiser, more world-weary Leman Russ return to the Imperium. I hope that GW makes it so.
I don't know if I'm just calling the videos but what about what if Vulkan returned
He could kick off the Heresy Secundus, and that could feed us till 50,000.
I thought Bjorn was the youngest of Russ's Wolf Guard. He was left behind because he was the youngest and more of an idealist and a leader vs heroic fighter. He could handle himself in a fight but he was more of a leader who could inspire others to fight and he had a vision of where the Legion should go and how it should operate. I agree that Russ would have cast down the Ecclesiarchy and would have gone to war with them. I see him as someone who would have rallied the Space Marines to his side to over throw them because he would not have agreed with them or their methods. That wasn't what the Great Crusades were for.
I had an idea called the Russ Revolution.
When all six living loyalist Primarchs have returned, but three of them are so unhappy with the state of the Imperium that they seek to overthrow it and replace it with a new Imperium that is more in line with the Emperor’s ideals. Unlike the Horus Heresy which is loyalist vs traitor, both the Revolutionists and the Imperialists are Loyal to the Emperor, but believe each other to be traitors.
I imagine it would end with the Emperor somehow recovering and telling both sides to knock it off.
The warp being timeless means that Russ would probably look just like he did the day he left. Additionally he would have some warp abilities. What is interesting is that we don't have any stories from anyone - even from the side of Chaos about Russ - so...maybe he is lost? Maybe is is on a quest elsewhere, maybe he emerged already and has his mind scrambled and is on some distant world never discovered and added to the Imperium. There are 100 billion stars in the MW... What quest would keep him away?
If he does come back - I think Corax will find him and they will come back together. Maybe with Trajan Valoris. what would keep Trajan away from the light of the Emperor for 10k+ years after having served him for at least that long? I think Trajan is likely in search of a way to heal the Emperor - perhaps he is in the Black Library?
Vox, Brouther, your unquestioned love for these "improved" space marines has clouded your judgment.
If Leman Russ had come back, the Eye of Terror would have been ripped in half instead of the galaxy.
dead highlords dead inquisitors..and a civil war that seems disadvantageous to the imperium, until an outside enemy tries to take advantage of the conflict.
Valrak: I dont really like Guilliman...fuck it I'll do a 9 part ramble series about it...
Somewhere in the warp.
Magnus: "Screw you Leman you furry fuck!"
Eccleasuarchy and Inquisition: Why do I hear boss music?
It might not be fully confirmed, but it's _very_ heavily hinted that the _Vlka Fenryka_ were responsible for the disappearance of at least one of the Lost Legions. In _Prospero Burns,_ Kasper Hawser is talking to Russ about their impending attack on Prospero (and you'd think that Russ would have double-checked after the Emperor's orders suddenly changed from "Arrest Magnus and bring him back to Terra to explain himself" to "Wipe out the Thousand Sons, burn Prospero to the ground and salt the earth") and says something about how Astartes attacking Astartes is unprecedented. Russ simply replies that it's not actually as unprecedented as Hawser thinks it is.
8:15 He's a senior cogboy - being a weirdo comes with the territory
With regards to the Thor comparison, maybe he'd be more like the Thor from Ragnarok or even Infinity War compared to when he first showed up in the MCU.
So far, it seems like the only one that is an overall positive is Sanguinius and Guilliman.
Sanguinius actually using, and imo probably subtly reforming, the Imperial Faith would be an absolute boon. Given that at the very least the conviction in the God-Emperor has an effect against Chaos. Plus the huge morale bonus.
And then Papa Smurf, as you said, being the Statesman.
I would be interested to see what would happen if Horus unexpectidly returned on the side of the Imperium (yes, I know it will never happen) but as he was dying he regretted his actions, and if he returned as a loyal primarch it would be fascinating to watch!
If he is to be "Odin" when he returns, he would rule the Imperium absolutely with barely no question.
imperial bureaucracy: mom pick me up! im scared!
Cawl wanting to be fab general. He had 10 ,000 years of hiding in the bowls of mars doing super secret project.
Next Primarch I want back is... Fulgrim's Clone. Would be interesting to have a traitor Primarch return next although he hasn't betrayed The Imperium. Would be very dramatic to say the least especially if Trazyn delivered him to The Imperium as a show of Unity against the REAL threat. Tyranids. The Necrons could even help out out The Golden Throne a lot better than ANY Eldar.
The Phoenix Reborn. Plus a Necron Alliance Pact all in One. With the Eldar already having a Pact with The Imperium. Things are starting to coalesce.
Dommy Dench that’d be cute. I like that.
@@The_Murder_Party Thanks man. Hehe
@@The_Murder_Party I mean really... Wby the fuck not? Gullimen don't give a fuck about Xenophobia at this point.. Chaos is Rampant and The Orcs are getting snappy and for fuck sake.. The Tyranids are just gerting started. Time to start working together
Dommy Dench I mean the necrons though? Can you really trust them? I think the closest you come is basically “ok, now you stay on your side of the cekatricx manidictum we’ll stay on ours till X threat is extinguished," the closest you come to a true alliance is the Tau who’ve been convinced that the Athema *is* the greater good, or chaos, Magnimagic might help, others could as ordered by their respective gods because without potential worshipers you can’t exist so purgeing the tyranids?e
There would be a lot less Empire building and a lot more shoving pointy things into Chaos deamon faces, eating heretics, and consumption of absurd amounts of alcohol.
And the Indominus Crusade would be renamed the "Great Wolf Rock N Fuck Tour M42", which would take the form of the Space Wolves (with Primarus on bass) roving the galaxy killing everything that wasn't human and fucking everything that was.
That’s a lot of good thoughts Chapter Master Valrak however one big thing you forget and a lot of people do this is time is almost non existent in the warp. It flows very differently there than in real space. Also note that those that go there especially for long periods of time change. Look at the Eldar race who was lost in the eye of terror for thousands of years and they are more resistant to the warp than humans including Primarchs corax has been there pretty much for 10000 years and has become something more but daemon not human something better, stronger but also more twisted. Something if Leman russ came back he would be more Wolfen and very animalistic then ever before. The only Primarchs that are not effected are those who are either still in the imperium space or in the web way. Just a wee bit of extra lore for you 😊
Also on a side note that I’m sure someone has mentioned is the whole idea of the order 66 but has anyone actually realised that what’s happening right now in the imperium has already happened once before. I foresee another heresy. Guilliman is the emperor replaced and the primaris are the Astartes to the thunder warriors. The time will come that they will be wiped out again. The legions are being brought back and chapters replaced a war is coming.
I think that Russ would be torn when fighting Magnus as he now knows he caused the Thousand sons to fall, due to being tricked by Horus. With the ecclesiarchy I believe that Russ would try to bring them down and possibly go to war with the church as they're against the Emperor's vision and used his name for their own means
Gaurd always plays three lemon russ's.