When I was a kid in the 90’s I hunted with my dad. I started going at the age of 8. We didn’t have a youth hunt. In fact we didn’t have an enclosed blind. We sat in what seemed to be the unrelenting cold and wind that Michigan can bring in mid November. I like that the kids now get to go out when it’s warm and enjoy an evening of hunting. With that said, they don’t learn how to hunt or how difficult it actually is. Walking out to a tower blind over a bean field when it’s 80 doesn’t teach them how to hunt. It shows them that it’s easy… until they’re 17 and then they are over it because they’ve never been challenged to embrace the suck. We live in a time where you get “buck shamed” whether you’re a kid or an adult. There’s too many people ready to cut you down for a spike. Over the years I’ve logged countless hours in the stand learning a little more each time I go. Long story short, we need to teach kid how to hunt and not how to just shoot the big buck. I think a doe only hunt is just fine.
I’m new at this but I’ve wanted to deer hunt since i was a kid… now he’s getting older and it’s rare that he goes out but he always puts me on the best spots and it seems like without his help i can’t even see a deer
Holy crap thats pretty sweet effectively extended rifle season. Idk about you guys but I've been pushed off my public lands spots the last few years and haven't been able to successfully harvest a deer, this will allow me to fill my freezer hopefully. I don't need antlers, I need to feed my kids
your still here lucky you many of our hunters are dying off participation by youths is dropping by leaps and bounds they are too busy with electronic games and cell phones what happens when these kids whom never hunted are in charge of our hunt seasons and maybe your still around to hunt. start them young and they get the bug early and dont lose it
Someone is and managing are wildlife is not in their best interests, if you think the NRC and DNR care about the Deer your mistaken , all they care about is the money that wildlife generates.........
@@robertpeet3781 and that is why they care about the wildlife because it generates money. If they didn’t care the wild turkey would be extinct but because they care the birds were brought back
Dam complicated! I hunt on my own 10 acres in Oakland county. I will need to get and read the regs. They eat my corn all year. On my own land, they sure control my deer harvest!
How can they make rules for a season when EHD has hit in southern mich again , there are dead deer everywhere , the DNR will do noneing because thats what they want , its not wildlife they care about its the money they get from wildlife ........
I see a lot of people that don’t even have kids upset because that’s what got them into hunting when they were young; you don’t wanna take away from getting younger generation into hunting. Go talk to a few of the kids you know and ask them about hunting; will blow your mind what some kids think of it now
@@markasmaclean420Hunters need to stop acting like taking a doe is just a crappy second option. If a kid likes hunting, he or she will enjoy taking a doe if you treat taking a doe as a big thing. But if you act like taking a doe is crappy and not worth it, then the kid is going to hate it too.
@@peterpizzurro Most my deer have been does, only a few bucks 4 or bigger on one side or a cull buck every odd season. Grandpa always said, haven't found a recipe for antler. It's about stocking the freezer.
@jrmcbuck1 I hunt in one of the APR zones in Northern Michigan and I don't believe the numbers are accurate...we have seen more mature bucks for sure bc of the APR's but the overall deer population is still down. I have heard the same from alot of people around my area, but I also know a few other northern areas that have seen some better deer numbers as well. So it's hard to judge the whole northern area on one county.
@@jrmcbuck1 I guess my issue is the universal antlerless licenses more than the early antlerless season open on public lands. Some big woods tracts of public land don't even have 10 deer per square mile. To allow each hunter to harvest up to 12 deer is irresponsible. With food costs soaring, more of those antlerless tags will start being utilized.
@@brushcrawler8612 holy crap only 10 deer per square mile is crazy I've seen over 100 deer in one field in my hometown of otisville and slightly further north in Millington is even more deer. I'm not sure what our population is like but I know there's a lot of deer. Just seen 10 bucks the other day next door in the field. Mr. 10 point is at the top of my list right now.
The quality of deer in Michigan is pitiful overall. Everything is here in place to have an extraordinary resource EXCEPT THE MANAGEMENT AND THE WILL TO IMPLEMENT IT !! Michigan is NOT a go to state, it’s a go FROM state. 😢
Little kids dont understand the importance or significance of a deer over 150” they will be just as thrilled about a doe. And teaching them the importance of balancing the population by forcing them to take a doe as their first deer is just as important as getting them into hunting. Not to mention all the dads out there that use the youth hunt as a way to get out and hunt early under the false pretense of taking there kid hunting is all too common nowadays.
Good comment. Trophies are nice but the hunt isn't about the trophy, or even the kill. Any hunter, kid or adult, needs to learn to respect the animal, that the kill is a reward for a good hunt. A doe is just as valuable a success as a 10-point buck. I know I'm not saying it right. You older hunters probably know what I mean.
They claim Hunter numbers declined by 30 percent cause the younger generation not picking it up. So to me taking away kids being able to shoot a buck is just adding to that problem.
Over complicating hunting will increase more hunting violations, or run people out of hunting altogether. I'm 66, been hunting since I was 15, but I won't be hunting here anymore.
Northern Michigan of the lower peninsula is up north. Majority of the country refers to that as up north and most of the country doesn't even know the up exists unfortunately
@ike0G Michigan DNR has not put a physical copy out yet, but the rules are posted on the DNR website...most years one is out anywhere you can purchase a hunting license.
So during muzzleload season in zone 2 you can use a centerfire on public land? And you can shoot a buck or a doe or is it limited to private property on just antlerless deer?
I do like the change for the liberty and independence hunts. I will probably get some hate but they are lucky to be able to hunt at all at that age. I had to wait till reached the age of 16
If you would let me know for sure that they're putting the book out cuz I was told that you can only find it online I'm not computer person so it's hard for me to get online
I don't think you mentioned the extended late archery season in the southeast. It's the whole month of January: "Archery season is extended through Jan. 31, 2025, for select counties: Huron, Kent, Lapeer, Macomb, Oakland, Sanilac, St. Clair (except DMU 174), Tuscola, Washtenaw and Wayne." I'll be curious to see if they offer cheaper antlerless licenses for that too.
I feel taking away the bucks in youth hunt is great. I feel kids should have to learn and earn a buck starting Oct 1st. I’m all about kids hunting and everyone has a opinion. Good luck to everyone this year and stay safe !!
I have no problem telling the youth to take only does. I do have a problem telling that same thing thing to the disabled though. As far as the youth hunt in general, I have never been for it. I took my son hunting with me during the regular seasons, both archery and gun seasons and when he hunted, he carried the gun or bow, not me. As you said, we did not have youth season when we grew up and I see it as an excuse for dads to tell their kids they took them hunting for their weekend and the rest of the season they can't go with. Kids need to be included in the regular season, because its more about the hunting with family and friends experience and they are missing out on that if they only get to hunt during the early youth hunt. just my 2 cents.
Regular firearms season in Ohio is during the school week. That means I would get one weekend to gun hunt with my kid !!! That may be ok with you... But it's not ok for me and my sons ! Youth season gives us another weekend together hunting deer ! Youth season is always on weekend break from school. It's not rocket science
@@matthunter1667 This video has to do with Michigan Deer hunting rules and regulations as does my comment. I don’t live in Ohio nor do I hunt there so I have no opinion on how things work in that state. I am however a Michigan resident, hunter and taxpayer so I will share my opinion on the matters that pertain to me and the state I live in. Having said that here in Michigan, archery deer season opens October 1st and the last day of our late antlerless deer season closes during the second week of January. You seem like an intelligent person so I will let you look at a calendar and tell me how many weekends that gives dads like you to hunt with their sons. As you said it’s not rocket science.
Glad to see the extended doe season with reduced tag fees. This should help many farmers and hopefully save me a few dollars since I have donated quite a few deer to local food banks even with the 20 dollar tags. As far as the liberty hunt, I feel that veterans served this country to protect it. They should be allowed to harvest what they want.
I absolutely love the change they made for youth hunt but I wish they would pass the one buck tag state with a non restricted tag. This state has all the land and abundance to grow insanely big deer but most just don’t understand the importance of passing young buck and those for the majority are the ones that say Michigan doesn’t grow big deer and tbh we have everything to be a state like Iowa or Illinois but with both buck tags and 300,000+ deer getting nuked every year and most of that total is bucks is absolutely absurd and needs to get in check asap!
In my opinion, the greatest rule change Michigan could ever do is a 1 buck rule. It solves almost every issue! No APR, better doe harvest, no using your dads “extra tag”, no youth restriction. Hunt what you want, how you want, but 1 buck only.
I hate the idea...but I do agree 100%. In my 25 years of deer hunting in Michigan, I've only filled both buck tags 3 times, and most years were buckless. I do believe that a 1 buck rule, would make those "most years" not be buckless! Bringing back baiting would be the best thing they could do to reach their goal of more doe's taken. Higher success rates will also help get younger hunters into it.
@BpLavoie Did you not comprehend... "Bringing back baiting would be the best thing they could do to reach their goal of more doe's taken"? They want MORE deer taken, and BAITING is the simplest way to get more deer taken. That's great that you hunt a property with so many deer, that you can be far more selective...and be a "real hunter". If I even see a dozen, for the whole season, I'm pretty happy with that, because most years, it's only in the 5-10 range. I do get mine (several) every year, without bait. If we could though, I would...so I wouldn't have to be out there as much. As much as I love being out there, time is limited. Going days on end without seeing so much as a hair, gets really old, really quick. Before making smug comments, think a little. Not everybody has it as good as you. It's so easy to be a "real hunter", when you've got a solid population in your hunting area. That's kinda like bragging about catching a limit at a trout farm.
Why are the certain counties during the late doe season able to get doe tags for 5 bucks , while everyone in the state has to pay 20 for the same thing. If the doe pop. is the issue then why not make it more affordable considering the price of what the price of getting ur deer processed is costing the the hunter on top of the tags for hunting, and they wonder why we are losing hunters
When I was a kid, I had to wait until firearm season to use a rifle for you deer. Last year I was at the river fishing and was talking to a guy that told me they got 2 10 point bucks on the youth hunt. They never got to the bow season. I think doe only for the youth hunt is a good idea. Can't those same kids hunt during the archery season?. As for veterans and disabled, I don't have the answers. But I think it's highly unfair to others to slaughter all the big bucks before everyone has a chance at getting one .😊
Honestly i dont think baiting is as big of an issue as its made out to be… those deer are gonna do the same thing over at the cornfield that they do at your bait pile theyll still meet up and eat i dont think that rule is gonna slow disease down much if at all
I love that rule. I’m glad it’s coming into effect. I think it does. The opposite for children and gives them high expectations. That aren’t realistic come regular season.
We need to bring back baiting, one buck tag only after u shoot a doe! My insurance co USAA told me that one of the reasons that the premiums have went up is because of the accidents! Cheap doe tags year around!
I have a averaged 25 days in the woods hunting and countless days observing out of season. The last few years public land deer sightings have diminished greatly. The almighty DNR has yet to realize public land cannot be managed the same as private property and watch as hunter numbers continue to drop. It's pretty sad that they think it's ok for a hunter to not see a deer for 10 days in a row. I advised my nephew (in South Carolina) not to come to Michigan if they want to see deer much less shoot one. I live and hunt in the NW lower pensula.
im a disabled hunter.....my take on the change of taking away the bucks from us and the children should actually be done differently.....the state says that there's only 8000 deer harvested during these two hunts. As a former taxidermist it would make more sense to extend the season to a 4 day season (Friday to Monday) and implement a rule that if you want to harvest a buck you must harvest a doe first.... before you say extending the season 2 days isnt feasible from a standpoint of having people to help with hunting on those 2 extra days it can be done after work.....and by forcing the hunters to harvest a doe prior to killing a buck it serves 3 purposes: (1) it helps DNR/NRC requirements to lower doe population, (2) it gives the kids/disabled an extra opportunity at harvesting an extra animal they wouldn't otherwise, (3) it gives each family an extra animal for meat for that year.....
I believe the restrictions on the youth hunt and late hunts the best idea they came up with in years but I don't like the new change of being able to use any firearm during Black Powder season Muzzleloader season was set up for muzzleloading not regular rifles you're taking away a sport from people who love to shoot black powder
i do not have kids that would hunt the youth hunt anymore, nor do i have disabled friends that would hunt the special hunt, however the entire design of those hunts were to give these youths and disabled hunters at better chance at scoring as good deer as they are not as mobile as many of us and have to in most cases hunt much closer to trails and roads, i disagree with the state removing bucks as legal harvest during this season,the state is currently trying to decimate the deer herd and have been for a few years,this is merely a ply to get more does removed from the woods, as not enough hunters are taking the numbers to ruin our deer herd, everyone thinks a 1 to 1 ratio is better, ask states that have that close a ratio how many days they are allowed in the woods to hunt, ask them if they are able to put fresh meat in their freezers year after year, some of you all keep screeaming and crying for that 1 to 1 ratio and you will have 3 to 5 days hunting with a bow and 3 days with a firearm per year, I personally love to be sitting in a tree more times than i can count i passed on harvesting a deer with a bow and with a firearm due to an assortment of reasons many times i just didnt feel like gutting and dragging it that day or decided it was just to cold to take off my gloves to deal with it, its high time we hunters took control of our hunting away from state employees that have never been in the woods, shot a bow or firearm and put it where it belongs in the hands of hunters and fishermen, and biologists
As a father of three boy's I can tell you that when I young man bags a buck he is a hunter for life! My older 2 boy's aren't really that into hunting because they didn't have the luck my youngest has. My younger boy didn't even wanna shoot a doe because he didn't want to put pressure on our stands before the rut. Plain and simple antlerless youth hunt means less hunters period.
Any other season I don't like is that late January hunt the DNR going to have our deer population down to nothing there's areas in Grand Traverse County Kalkaska County where you won't see a deer it was bad enough in Grand Traverse County last year during the firearm deer season I saw six deer that was it
Dave here, MLive has an article out today pertaining to this subject. R-Rep Thomas Albert from Lowell, has introduced legislation, to Reverse the new antlerless rules for youth and Liberty hunts. Personally, I disagree with ALL EARLY Deer hunts. I'm 58 yrs old, been hunting since I've been legally allowed. I've noticed much change in deer habits and movement ever since the introduction of the first Early Doe hunt 15 plus years ago. The biggest change is that the mature animals, Buck and Doe's go nocturnal and stay that way pretty much the entirety of the Deer hunting season. If the DNR wants more deer harvested though out the state. Go back to Deer season starts Oct 1. Let the Bucks and Doe's establish their territories in mid to late September NATURALLY without hunting pressure from all these early hunts, And you will get a MUCH BETTER overall harvest from Oct 1 thru Dec 31.
The biggest part of the loss of the deer in the area I hunt is because they keep clear cutting and taking all the white tail food away keep cutting down all the oak trees you can blame the DNR in the state for that
One of the best things PA did for deer hunting was start statewide antler point restrictions. I think your state would benefit from going to a one buck state as well. I see a lot of 3½ year old bucks or older now compared to 20 years ago. And some of the bucks now being killed in this state would have been the buck of a lifetime 20 years ago as well and folks would have come from miles around to see it. The first year antler restrictions started I killed a 140" deer and word spread so fast that folks were coming directly from the woods on the same day to my house to see it like it was a 200" deer. It's still a tough state to hunt because of pressure and the fact that you need to find rugged terrain to escape the pressure, but it's like a completely different state now compared to before antler restrictions. That's awesome that you did this video for folks!
@brob-zy8zi thank you...I really agree with going to an APR state. Now, we have a few counties that do it, and we have seen great deer growth in those counties. I could see the state going to a one buck state in the future, but we will have to see. Thanks for watching.
ive quit hunting because of the control issue michigan has. somethings do make sense, but same time somethings are dumb. 🤷🏼♂️ even the fishing is goofy. they always want you to know the "new" rules..but put them out after that years books are made.
To complicated. If they want the harvest to make an impact on the deer population DNR needs to simplify its starting to resemble the trout and salmon regs. Does not help entice new hunters!
Northern lower state land has extremely low deer population since i was a kid. Hunting anymore is just something i still do out of passion. But more and more often i eat my tags every year. Its sad. Early firearm, using a rifle during muzzleloader, late season lmao. States a joke. Be lucky to even see a deer in a few years
@@smmalafa1 I think the early youth hunt being Doe only is a greedy, pathetic side step from proper Deer management, same as the Liberty, and they made that greed driven policy by expanding in the urban hunting zones targeting higher hunter populous for more sales to avoid a 1 Buck season which is what's needed to start balancing the herd. Our NRC is greedy, and Incompetent like their Boss. The herd balance & Quality difference between Menominee county Michigan and Marinette Wisconsin is a mind numbingly wide gap, which the NRC has a ton of excuses for that they should be explaining to unemployment.
So I'll be grouse hunting in December with firearm deer hunters with center-fire rifles now? That's jacked up. Take it back to traditional muzzleloader...geez, what are they thinking
I don’t care buck or doe on the nonsense youth and liberty hunts I think it should be limited to archery only!!! I don’t think those hunts should exist period just to stir up the woods with a special excuse to get out early tech kids real discipline and hard work and actually apply that to life because the reward is that much more meaningful and memorable because it’s earned not given and no man can take that away from you
Man. It kinda sucks that i can't get my boy a buck on the youth hunt. But a deers a deer for sure. Im sure he wouldn't care if it had antlers or not. However, it would be hard passing a nice buck if it presented for us. I think its important to keep a pretty low bar for the kids to get them out there. Deer hunting is a grind, and the nice weather of the early season really helps the kids out.
Until we can get the D.N.R. to agree to a partnership with the sports people on the same page, knowing that most D.N.R.dont have the knowledge needed to properly handle our outdoor resources.its not too hard to see that we sports people are more knowledgeable to properly address our outdoor circumstances better than our D.N.R.that we are paying for license and maintenance for the wildlife and the environment.where is the representation of the sports people?it seems all they are worried about is revenue and and being unjust D.N.R.personnel that claim to know what they are doing.hmmmm....😠 And as far as baiting,what's the difference between a baitpile or a soybean or cornfield? Nose to nose contact is s guaranteed everywhere in their environment.amazing rules that simply don't make sense.💯✝️🙏🇺🇲👍
I actually hate this. I'm a falconer and hunt cottontail rabbits through small game season. It really sucks that I'll have to wait two more weeks to get out on state land without having to deal with deer hunters.
The youth/handicap hunt rule is based on political science not biology. We're getting a lot of that from the NRC. Lots of hunters without kids or disabilities were seeing too many big trophy bucks in September on Michigan Out Of Doors TV. Since all game is public resource, all hunters want an equal chance at those biggest bucks. They don't like seeing them taken by a reserved class of people. I'm not saying right or wrong, just what I see and hear.
As a hunter who takes many of my friend's kids youth hunting. I do not agree with the doe only hunt. How do you get the kids excited for hunting? Every boy i know wants to brag to his friends about the size of a buck he got in the youth hunt. Was even able to see a couple bucks taken in velvet. These kids need to be excited for hunting otherwise it'll all go away. Getting the young kids into hunting should be the goal. Not saving a buck so a greedy adult can brag. Just my 2 cents. Good luck to everyone this season
It’s ok for a kid to brag about shooting a buck but if an adult does it they’re greedy? Michigan has never managed deer properly and young boys killing spikes for the sake of saying they shot a “buck” is part of the problem. Want kids to get excited about hunting? Get them excited about being providers of food for their family and self reliance. That will have a lifelong influence on the kind of man a boy will grow up to be. By far more important than bragging about the 3 point he shoots.
The badge, the honor, "the brag" whatever you want to call is embedded in the lore of hunting and is never going away. The youth season has gone on long enough to show it had little impact on on the overall buck harvest. All you have to is look at Michigan Buckpole over the last 5 years to see the results of Big if not Bigger bucks being taken in our state. The ones who wanted the rule changes, have never taken a youth or handicapped hunter into the field and seen the transformation in child's hunting journey when they've taken their 1st deer especially a Buck!! If hunting was only about meat and providing, which is a big part. Than the argument of whether they take a spike, a 3pt, a doe, or trophy Buck has no merit, it's only that "Bragg" for grown men that is the concern??
@@Andrew-bo8ct I agree in some stance but what's the difference between harvesting a doe, a spike, or a three point, or a monster buck? In my mind they are all potential food. Now if you are taking the stance of teach the youth to harvest food not antlers then yes I 100% agree.
It’s funny to see all these hunters who don’t give a damn about conservation say “ I don’t like that kids can’t shoot a buck in their one special hunt” my brother in Christ we need to get rid of all the damn doe we have. It’s getting changed for a reason 😂
All hail the trophy hunters. Lesser beings like children and the disabled must abandon hope and traditionalists must foreswear their foolish ethics. All must bow to the alter money and ego. They may only harvest a buck if their betters allow them, and only if the masters deem the buck worthy. No hunt may be deemed acceptable unless it feeds the ego of the trophy hunter and furthers their goals. Any other reason or objective for hunting is blasphemy and must be stuck down. Only the true believer may recieve the blessing of the hunt.
Don't understand the reason for the liberty hunt. If they can get to woods , they should be made to hunt with the rest of use. I am handicapped but can't hunt in the liberty hunt.
@@RichardParker-k3y so you are mad that kids and vets who got hurt serving their country get a few extra days because you aren’t included in that? That attitude is why states have straight wall laws
@Dcm193 NO I am picked of because I am a vet of the Vietnam War. I got rotten food and thrower at me and fellow vets. Now todays vets are heros and they doing the same things. The country is a screwed up. You can say what you want.
It was brought up on Michigan Out of Doors that there are many disabled folks who hunt the liberty season because they can't handle the cold in the later season due to whatever their disability is.
I know it will never happen but it would be great if they outlawed crossbows unless you are youth, senior, or disabled. Also need to bring strict muzzleloader back. Don’t like the idea of early antlerless firearm on stateland and finally make a 1 buck state!
If we want more kids to hunt they need to be able to shoot a buck during the youth hunt. Hunting is really falling off here in Michigan. We need the younger generation to keep it going and what better way than shooting a big buck or any buck they choose.
I don’t mean to play devils advocate but what happens to that same kid that shoots a 130” buck they’re first time out and thinks that’s how it always goes? I just feel that it teaches them on how to go on guided hunts and not appreciate hunting itself.
When I was a kid in the 90’s I hunted with my dad. I started going at the age of 8. We didn’t have a youth hunt. In fact we didn’t have an enclosed blind. We sat in what seemed to be the unrelenting cold and wind that Michigan can bring in mid November. I like that the kids now get to go out when it’s warm and enjoy an evening of hunting. With that said, they don’t learn how to hunt or how difficult it actually is. Walking out to a tower blind over a bean field when it’s 80 doesn’t teach them how to hunt. It shows them that it’s easy… until they’re 17 and then they are over it because they’ve never been challenged to embrace the suck. We live in a time where you get “buck shamed” whether you’re a kid or an adult. There’s too many people ready to cut you down for a spike. Over the years I’ve logged countless hours in the stand learning a little more each time I go. Long story short, we need to teach kid how to hunt and not how to just shoot the big buck. I think a doe only hunt is just fine.
I’m new at this but I’ve wanted to deer hunt since i was a kid… now he’s getting older and it’s rare that he goes out but he always puts me on the best spots and it seems like without his help i can’t even see a deer
I think it's criminal that the DNR doesn't have the books out yet something should be done 👍
@lindapieniozek4828 I know they have posted the rules on the website but they definitely need to have the Physical Book out as well.
Holy crap thats pretty sweet effectively extended rifle season. Idk about you guys but I've been pushed off my public lands spots the last few years and haven't been able to successfully harvest a deer, this will allow me to fill my freezer hopefully. I don't need antlers, I need to feed my kids
Thanx for the Update..very helpful..Have Good Luck this year..all be Extra Safe..Shoot Straight!
@@scotthackett4500 you as well
Back to old school I'm for it we had to wait till we were 14 it was fine I'm still here and hunting thanks
your still here lucky you many of our hunters are dying off participation by youths is dropping by leaps and bounds they are too busy with electronic games and cell phones what happens when these kids whom never hunted are in charge of our hunt seasons and maybe your still around to hunt. start them young and they get the bug early and dont lose it
Extended seasons and having no muzzleloader season basically tells me the insurance companies are in control 🤷🏽♂️
@@arcticgriz20 ur not the first one to think it
Someone is and managing are wildlife is not in their best interests, if you think the NRC and DNR care about the Deer your mistaken , all they care about is the money that wildlife generates.........
@@robertpeet3781 and that is why they care about the wildlife because it generates money. If they didn’t care the wild turkey would be extinct but because they care the birds were brought back
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Dam complicated! I hunt on my own 10 acres in Oakland county. I will need to get and read the regs. They eat my corn all year. On my own land, they sure control my deer harvest!
I hunt Oakland county also where abouts
Time to go back to the old days. Get one and keep quiet
Im also in Oakland county but i dont have any access to private only public land for this guy
Same guys on here that are rejoicing the kids don’t get to take a buck are the SAME ONES shooting multiple 110” 8pt deer every year.
Preach brother
How can they make rules for a season when EHD has hit in southern mich again , there are dead deer everywhere , the DNR will do noneing because thats what they want , its not wildlife they care about its the money they get from wildlife ........
Got a lot of guys mad about not being able to shoot a nice buck with their kids tag
I see a lot of people that don’t even have kids upset because that’s what got them into hunting when they were young; you don’t wanna take away from getting younger generation into hunting.
Go talk to a few of the kids you know and ask them about hunting; will blow your mind what some kids think of it now
@@markasmaclean420 Taking a doe is not hunting? Interesting!
@@markasmaclean420Hunters need to stop acting like taking a doe is just a crappy second option. If a kid likes hunting, he or she will enjoy taking a doe if you treat taking a doe as a big thing. But if you act like taking a doe is crappy and not worth it, then the kid is going to hate it too.
@@peterpizzurro Most my deer have been does, only a few bucks 4 or bigger on one side or a cull buck every odd season. Grandpa always said, haven't found a recipe for antler. It's about stocking the freezer.
Early doe firearm on public land will cause population issues in some areas of the northern lower.
@@brushcrawler8612 It might agree with that one
I'm from Southern Michigan and I've heard you guys got more than enough deer up there just little bucks though. This really not the case??
@jrmcbuck1 I hunt in one of the APR zones in Northern Michigan and I don't believe the numbers are accurate...we have seen more mature bucks for sure bc of the APR's but the overall deer population is still down. I have heard the same from alot of people around my area, but I also know a few other northern areas that have seen some better deer numbers as well. So it's hard to judge the whole northern area on one county.
@@jrmcbuck1 I guess my issue is the universal antlerless licenses more than the early antlerless season open on public lands.
Some big woods tracts of public land don't even have 10 deer per square mile.
To allow each hunter to harvest up to 12 deer is irresponsible.
With food costs soaring, more of those antlerless tags will start being utilized.
@@brushcrawler8612 holy crap only 10 deer per square mile is crazy I've seen over 100 deer in one field in my hometown of otisville and slightly further north in Millington is even more deer. I'm not sure what our population is like but I know there's a lot of deer. Just seen 10 bucks the other day next door in the field. Mr. 10 point is at the top of my list right now.
Thankyou for your help be safe and have a great hunting season jody and keith lesniak
@@jodylesniak2523 thank you and good luck to you as well
Loving the content and vids on this channel! Keep it rollin!
@@HuntingCarterHill Thanks...much appreciated
The quality of deer in Michigan is pitiful overall. Everything is here in place to have an extraordinary resource EXCEPT THE MANAGEMENT AND THE WILL TO IMPLEMENT IT !! Michigan is NOT a go to state, it’s a go FROM state. 😢
Thanks for this. I'll be listening to it more
@mjc4942 no problem...thanks for watching.
Thanks for the info
@@logunschmitt8311 👍
Little kids dont understand the importance or significance of a deer over 150” they will be just as thrilled about a doe. And teaching them the importance of balancing the population by forcing them to take a doe as their first deer is just as important as getting them into hunting. Not to mention all the dads out there that use the youth hunt as a way to get out and hunt early under the false pretense of taking there kid hunting is all too common nowadays.
Good comment. Trophies are nice but the hunt isn't about the trophy, or even the kill. Any hunter, kid or adult, needs to learn to respect the animal, that the kill is a reward for a good hunt. A doe is just as valuable a success as a 10-point buck. I know I'm not saying it right. You older hunters probably know what I mean.
Wrong
Telling them they can't shoot a big buck if it walks past is total BS.
@@PatEding Yup I agree.. it only discourages kids from being interested in hunting all together..
Just got thru watching a 6 and 8 pt spar with a 4 pt watching 5 minutes ago across my pond.
@@Randy-rdss very cool
By the way, my wife spotted them first, was a very nice sight on my property to say the least..Nov 15th for sure.
They claim Hunter numbers declined by 30 percent cause the younger generation not picking it up. So to me taking away kids being able to shoot a buck is just adding to that problem.
Over complicating hunting will increase more hunting violations, or run people out of hunting altogether. I'm 66, been hunting since I was 15, but I won't be hunting here anymore.
@brucewilson6694 it definitely makes it tough the more they change and the amount that they change.
thank you sir awsome info
@@lessage760 thank you for watching
Great content, Thank you!
@backwoods3393 No problem and thanks for watching
I like the antlerless only requirement for youth hunt. I don’t like eliminating the requirement to use a muzzle loader during that season.
calling the LP up north is crazy. nice video !
@@CoryGames1400 thanks for watching.
Northern Michigan of the lower peninsula is up north. Majority of the country refers to that as up north and most of the country doesn't even know the up exists unfortunately
@@jrmcbuck1 very true
It my first year. Whats the book and where do I get it?
@ike0G Michigan DNR has not put a physical copy out yet, but the rules are posted on the DNR website...most years one is out anywhere you can purchase a hunting license.
Government micro-management.
So during muzzleload season in zone 2 you can use a centerfire on public land? And you can shoot a buck or a doe or is it limited to private property on just antlerless deer?
I do like the change for the liberty and independence hunts. I will probably get some hate but they are lucky to be able to hunt at all at that age. I had to wait till reached the age of 16
if you waited till 16 thats your parents fault legal age has been 14 forever for firearm and 12 for bow and small game in Michigan
Are there deer in the UP this year?
thinking about moving to Michigan to become a hunter
January season for doe isn’t going to be work. Need to cut the $ of doe license for the whole season in southern Michigan.
If you would let me know for sure that they're putting the book out cuz I was told that you can only find it online I'm not computer person so it's hard for me to get online
I don't think you mentioned the extended late archery season in the southeast. It's the whole month of January: "Archery season is extended through Jan. 31, 2025, for select counties: Huron, Kent, Lapeer, Macomb, Oakland, Sanilac, St. Clair (except DMU 174), Tuscola, Washtenaw and Wayne." I'll be curious to see if they offer cheaper antlerless licenses for that too.
They do, $5 doe tags
I feel taking away the bucks in youth hunt is great. I feel kids should have to learn and earn a buck starting Oct 1st. I’m all about kids hunting and everyone has a opinion. Good luck to everyone this year and stay safe !!
@jessiecampbell433 I remember when I was a kid...I had to wait for Oct 1st for any deer...Thanks for watching.
My son shot a velvet buck last year. Kind of sad to see them change the youth rule.
Don’t call it “muzzleloading” it is a exctended firearm. I wish they would open a traditional muzzleloading season. Just my thoughts
Muzzloader season is a joke with that kind of rule. Like just remove the title and make it part of rifle season.
They want herd numbers smacked down to prevent CWD spread. Once they see the numbers they want, theyll reverse the change
MI is full of jokes, Like allowing crossbows in "archery"season and youth hunters killing big bucks.
@@NicholasCreager cross bows are archery. You're the joke there.
@@NicholasCreager and if you're triggered by the youth killing big bucks, maybe you're the problem. Lmao
I have no problem telling the youth to take only does. I do have a problem telling that same thing thing to the disabled though. As far as the youth hunt in general, I have never been for it. I took my son hunting with me during the regular seasons, both archery and gun seasons and when he hunted, he carried the gun or bow, not me. As you said, we did not have youth season when we grew up and I see it as an excuse for dads to tell their kids they took them hunting for their weekend and the rest of the season they can't go with. Kids need to be included in the regular season, because its more about the hunting with family and friends experience and they are missing out on that if they only get to hunt during the early youth hunt. just my 2 cents.
Regular firearms season in Ohio is during the school week.
That means I would get one weekend to gun hunt with my kid !!!
That may be ok with you... But it's not ok for me and my sons !
Youth season gives us another weekend together hunting deer !
Youth season is always on weekend break from school.
It's not rocket science
@@matthunter1667 This video has to do with Michigan Deer hunting rules and regulations as does my comment. I don’t live in Ohio nor do I hunt there so I have no opinion on how things work in that state. I am however a Michigan resident, hunter and taxpayer so I will share my opinion on the matters that pertain to me and the state I live in. Having said that here in Michigan, archery deer season opens October 1st and the last day of our late antlerless deer season closes during the second week of January. You seem like an intelligent person so I will let you look at a calendar and tell me how many weekends that gives dads like you to hunt with their sons. As you said it’s not rocket science.
Glad to see the extended doe season with reduced tag fees. This should help many farmers and hopefully save me a few dollars since I have donated quite a few deer to local food banks even with the 20 dollar tags.
As far as the liberty hunt, I feel that veterans served this country to protect it. They should be allowed to harvest what they want.
I absolutely love the change they made for youth hunt but I wish they would pass the one buck tag state with a non restricted tag. This state has all the land and abundance to grow insanely big deer but most just don’t understand the importance of passing young buck and those for the majority are the ones that say Michigan doesn’t grow big deer and tbh we have everything to be a state like Iowa or Illinois but with both buck tags and 300,000+ deer getting nuked every year and most of that total is bucks is absolutely absurd and needs to get in check asap!
In my opinion, the greatest rule change Michigan could ever do is a 1 buck rule. It solves almost every issue! No APR, better doe harvest, no using your dads “extra tag”, no youth restriction. Hunt what you want, how you want, but 1 buck only.
@RyanL88827 not a bad thought...I think that may be coming down the line.
I hate the idea...but I do agree 100%.
In my 25 years of deer hunting in Michigan, I've only filled both buck tags 3 times, and most years were buckless. I do believe that a 1 buck rule, would make those "most years" not be buckless!
Bringing back baiting would be the best thing they could do to reach their goal of more doe's taken. Higher success rates will also help get younger hunters into it.
@BpLavoie Did you not comprehend...
"Bringing back baiting would be the best thing they could do to reach their goal of more doe's taken"? They want MORE deer taken, and BAITING is the simplest way to get more deer taken.
That's great that you hunt a property with so many deer, that you can be far more selective...and be a "real hunter". If I even see a dozen, for the whole season, I'm pretty happy with that, because most years, it's only in the 5-10 range. I do get mine (several) every year, without bait. If we could though, I would...so I wouldn't have to be out there as much. As much as I love being out there, time is limited. Going days on end without seeing so much as a hair, gets really old, really quick.
Before making smug comments, think a little. Not everybody has it as good as you. It's so easy to be a "real hunter", when you've got a solid population in your hunting area. That's kinda like bragging about catching a limit at a trout farm.
Why are the certain counties during the late doe season able to get doe tags for 5 bucks , while everyone in the state has to pay 20 for the same thing. If the doe pop. is the issue then why not make it more affordable considering the price of what the price of getting ur deer processed is costing the the hunter on top of the tags for hunting, and they wonder why we are losing hunters
@timweage7572 good question 🤔
“Management zones” aka auto insurance companies
Deer population isn't the same in every county. Lol
@jasongrobbel225 very true...I do hunt one county with an abundance of does and another with way less.
@@joeroodmusic7695take off your tinfoil hat, dude. Obviously parts of the state have WAY more does than others.
When I was a kid, I had to wait until firearm season to use a rifle for you deer. Last year I was at the river fishing and was talking to a guy that told me they got 2 10 point bucks on the youth hunt. They never got to the bow season. I think doe only for the youth hunt is a good idea. Can't those same kids hunt during the archery season?. As for veterans and disabled, I don't have the answers. But I think it's highly unfair to others to slaughter all the big bucks before everyone has a chance at getting one .😊
Missed some counties in SW Michigan for extended late doe
450 Bushmaster for the win!
@@rosswitte I love my 450 as well
Honestly i dont think baiting is as big of an issue as its made out to be… those deer are gonna do the same thing over at the cornfield that they do at your bait pile theyll still meet up and eat i dont think that rule is gonna slow disease down much if at all
@MileytheJeepV2 I know a lot of people that say the same thing...deer are still gonna be deer and do deer things.
I love that rule. I’m glad it’s coming into effect. I think it does. The opposite for children and gives them high expectations. That aren’t realistic come regular season.
Glad we can still bait in the upper peninsula
@@Sonja00 I know that has been a hot topic in the lower the last few years
@@outdoorbelievin5259 with deer numbers so low up here. It's hard to see Deer with out bait see lots of wolf's though
@@outdoorbelievin5259 cougars wolfs bears coyotes humans hard winters the deer have no chance
@@Sonja00 yea...I've been hearing it's not been great in the UP bc of all of that the past few years.
@@outdoorbelievin5259 dnr thinks the stork drops off fawns they kept doe seasons open too long
We need to bring back baiting, one buck tag only after u shoot a doe! My insurance co USAA told me that one of the reasons that the premiums have went up is because of the accidents! Cheap doe tags year around!
I have a averaged 25 days in the woods hunting and countless days observing out of season. The last few years public land deer sightings have diminished greatly. The almighty DNR has yet to realize public land cannot be managed the same as private property and watch as hunter numbers continue to drop. It's pretty sad that they think it's ok for a hunter to not see a deer for 10 days in a row. I advised my nephew (in South Carolina) not to come to Michigan if they want to see deer much less shoot one. I live and hunt in the NW lower pensula.
Screw tags per the constitution of the united states of America we don't need to buy a license to feed your family screw em all.
im a disabled hunter.....my take on the change of taking away the bucks from us and the children should actually be done differently.....the state says that there's only 8000 deer harvested during these two hunts. As a former taxidermist it would make more sense to extend the season to a 4 day season (Friday to Monday) and implement a rule that if you want to harvest a buck you must harvest a doe first.... before you say extending the season 2 days isnt feasible from a standpoint of having people to help with hunting on those 2 extra days it can be done after work.....and by forcing the hunters to harvest a doe prior to killing a buck it serves 3 purposes: (1) it helps DNR/NRC requirements to lower doe population, (2) it gives the kids/disabled an extra opportunity at harvesting an extra animal they wouldn't otherwise, (3) it gives each family an extra animal for meat for that year.....
We will not comply >>>
I believe the restrictions on the youth hunt and late hunts the best idea they came up with in years but I don't like the new change of being able to use any firearm during Black Powder season Muzzleloader season was set up for muzzleloading not regular rifles you're taking away a sport from people who love to shoot black powder
i do not have kids that would hunt the youth hunt anymore, nor do i have disabled friends that would hunt the special hunt, however the entire design of those hunts were to give these youths and disabled hunters at better chance at scoring as good deer as they are not as mobile as many of us and have to in most cases hunt much closer to trails and roads, i disagree with the state removing bucks as legal harvest during this season,the state is currently trying to decimate the deer herd and have been for a few years,this is merely a ply to get more does removed from the woods, as not enough hunters are taking the numbers to ruin our deer herd, everyone thinks a 1 to 1 ratio is better, ask states that have that close a ratio how many days they are allowed in the woods to hunt, ask them if they are able to put fresh meat in their freezers year after year, some of you all keep screeaming and crying for that 1 to 1 ratio and you will have 3 to 5 days hunting with a bow and 3 days with a firearm per year, I personally love to be sitting in a tree more times than i can count i passed on harvesting a deer with a bow and with a firearm due to an assortment of reasons many times i just didnt feel like gutting and dragging it that day or decided it was just to cold to take off my gloves to deal with it, its high time we hunters took control of our hunting away from state employees that have never been in the woods, shot a bow or firearm and put it where it belongs in the hands of hunters and fishermen, and biologists
So in other words no more muzzle loader season
@timscheich2133 that's what it's looking like...but they are still calling it that🤔
As a father of three boy's I can tell you that when I young man bags a buck he is a hunter for life! My older 2 boy's aren't really that into hunting because they didn't have the luck my youngest has. My younger boy didn't even wanna shoot a doe because he didn't want to put pressure on our stands before the rut. Plain and simple antlerless youth hunt means less hunters period.
Typical government. Makes it hard on the honest citizens. Time for a change.
Any other season I don't like is that late January hunt the DNR going to have our deer population down to nothing there's areas in Grand Traverse County Kalkaska County where you won't see a deer it was bad enough in Grand Traverse County last year during the firearm deer season I saw six deer that was it
Dave here, MLive has an article out today pertaining to this subject.
R-Rep Thomas Albert from Lowell, has introduced legislation, to Reverse the new antlerless rules for youth and Liberty hunts.
Personally, I disagree with ALL EARLY Deer hunts. I'm 58 yrs old, been hunting since I've been legally allowed.
I've noticed much change in deer habits and movement ever since the introduction of the first Early Doe hunt 15 plus years ago.
The biggest change is that the mature animals, Buck and Doe's go nocturnal and stay that way pretty much the entirety of the Deer hunting season.
If the DNR wants more deer harvested though out the state. Go back to Deer season starts Oct 1.
Let the Bucks and Doe's establish their territories in mid to late September NATURALLY without hunting pressure from all these early hunts, And you will get a MUCH BETTER overall harvest from Oct 1 thru Dec 31.
The biggest part of the loss of the deer in the area I hunt is because they keep clear cutting and taking all the white tail food away keep cutting down all the oak trees you can blame the DNR in the state for that
One of the best things PA did for deer hunting was start statewide antler point restrictions. I think your state would benefit from going to a one buck state as well. I see a lot of 3½ year old bucks or older now compared to 20 years ago. And some of the bucks now being killed in this state would have been the buck of a lifetime 20 years ago as well and folks would have come from miles around to see it. The first year antler restrictions started I killed a 140" deer and word spread so fast that folks were coming directly from the woods on the same day to my house to see it like it was a 200" deer. It's still a tough state to hunt because of pressure and the fact that you need to find rugged terrain to escape the pressure, but it's like a completely different state now compared to before antler restrictions. That's awesome that you did this video for folks!
@brob-zy8zi thank you...I really agree with going to an APR state. Now, we have a few counties that do it, and we have seen great deer growth in those counties. I could see the state going to a one buck state in the future, but we will have to see. Thanks for watching.
ive quit hunting because of the control issue michigan has. somethings do make sense, but same time somethings are dumb. 🤷🏼♂️ even the fishing is goofy. they always want you to know the "new" rules..but put them out after that years books are made.
Make the laws so confusing bout to stop caring
@@travisskeans2511 seems like they change more and more these days
Good rule on youth hunt, no hunting bucks in September staring in 2025 does only.👍
Agree
@@PHS1990J Also AGREE
To complicated. If they want the harvest to make an impact on the deer population DNR needs to simplify its starting to resemble the trout and salmon regs. Does not help entice new hunters!
I can get with keeping the kids to a doe..but disabled hunters shouldn’t be limited like that..
Northern lower state land has extremely low deer population since i was a kid. Hunting anymore is just something i still do out of passion. But more and more often i eat my tags every year. Its sad. Early firearm, using a rifle during muzzleloader, late season lmao. States a joke. Be lucky to even see a deer in a few years
Glad to see they are making the early youth hunt doe only, now to just abolish the 2 buck tag thing as well.
@smmalafa1 that may not be too far off as well
@@smmalafa1 I think the early youth hunt being Doe only is a greedy, pathetic side step from proper Deer management, same as the Liberty, and they made that greed driven policy by expanding in the urban hunting zones targeting higher hunter populous for more sales to avoid a 1 Buck season which is what's needed to start balancing the herd. Our NRC is greedy, and Incompetent like their Boss. The herd balance & Quality difference between Menominee county Michigan and Marinette Wisconsin is a mind numbingly wide gap, which the NRC has a ton of excuses for that they should be explaining to unemployment.
There trying to get the youth involved, who wants to shoot a doe when it's 80 out and it's more on the hunters stop shooting small bucks. Lol
@@jasongrobbel225Bucks are ok to shoot when it’s 80 out?
@@smmalafa1 I get 3 buck tags I'm native American
The 4 on one side rule was the best thing to ever happen in Mecosta County
So I'll be grouse hunting in December with firearm deer hunters with center-fire rifles now? That's jacked up. Take it back to traditional muzzleloader...geez, what are they thinking
I don’t care buck or doe on the nonsense youth and liberty hunts I think it should be limited to archery only!!! I don’t think those hunts should exist period just to stir up the woods with a special excuse to get out early tech kids real discipline and hard work and actually apply that to life because the reward is that much more meaningful and memorable because it’s earned not given and no man can take that away from you
Man. It kinda sucks that i can't get my boy a buck on the youth hunt. But a deers a deer for sure. Im sure he wouldn't care if it had antlers or not. However, it would be hard passing a nice buck if it presented for us.
I think its important to keep a pretty low bar for the kids to get them out there. Deer hunting is a grind, and the nice weather of the early season really helps the kids out.
Yal did it to yourselves. You stopped hunting and started only caring about trophies. No longer hunters, just sportsman, one rung above poachers.
Your comment makes very little sense to me. Did what?
@@larryclark9380 Caused the law change.
Something tells me this video isn’t going to discuss “major changes”
Until we can get the D.N.R. to agree to a partnership with the sports people on the same page, knowing that most D.N.R.dont have the knowledge needed to properly handle our outdoor resources.its not too hard to see that we sports people are more knowledgeable to properly address our outdoor circumstances better than our D.N.R.that we are paying for license and maintenance for the wildlife and the environment.where is the representation of the sports people?it seems all they are worried about is revenue and and being unjust D.N.R.personnel that claim to know what they are doing.hmmmm....😠
And as far as baiting,what's the difference between a baitpile or a soybean or cornfield? Nose to nose contact is s guaranteed everywhere in their environment.amazing rules that simply don't make sense.💯✝️🙏🇺🇲👍
I actually hate this. I'm a falconer and hunt cottontail rabbits through small game season. It really sucks that I'll have to wait two more weeks to get out on state land without having to deal with deer hunters.
The youth/handicap hunt rule is based on political science not biology. We're getting a lot of that from the NRC.
Lots of hunters without kids or disabilities were seeing too many big trophy bucks in September on Michigan Out Of Doors TV. Since all game is public resource, all hunters want an equal chance at those biggest bucks. They don't like seeing them taken by a reserved class of people.
I'm not saying right or wrong, just what I see and hear.
Maybe you hunters in the lower have better hunting, I don't know?
@karmas.busdriver I hear the herd down here in the lower is better but certain areas do need some help.
@@outdoorbelievin5259 I hunt the southern U.P. for Doe's. 😁
Too many around me😂 The farmers complain yet, GET OFF MY LAND😅
@user-hs5me4dw4n Better to have to many then not enough
@@Elonzo-k2y Ask permission first...LOL
How about skipping the season this year. They killed them off in St Joseph area, So why get a license. Getting tired of their crying about management.
As a hunter who takes many of my friend's kids youth hunting. I do not agree with the doe only hunt. How do you get the kids excited for hunting? Every boy i know wants to brag to his friends about the size of a buck he got in the youth hunt. Was even able to see a couple bucks taken in velvet. These kids need to be excited for hunting otherwise it'll all go away. Getting the young kids into hunting should be the goal. Not saving a buck so a greedy adult can brag. Just my 2 cents. Good luck to everyone this season
@@Hunsey2595 you make some good points
It’s ok for a kid to brag about shooting a buck but if an adult does it they’re greedy? Michigan has never managed deer properly and young boys killing spikes for the sake of saying they shot a “buck” is part of the problem. Want kids to get excited about hunting? Get them excited about being providers of food for their family and self reliance. That will have a lifelong influence on the kind of man a boy will grow up to be. By far more important than bragging about the 3 point he shoots.
The badge, the honor, "the brag" whatever you want to call is embedded in the lore of hunting and is never going away. The youth season has gone on long enough to show it had little impact on on the overall buck harvest. All you have to is look at Michigan Buckpole over the last 5 years to see the results of Big if not Bigger bucks being taken in our state. The ones who wanted the rule changes, have never taken a youth or handicapped hunter into the field and seen the transformation in child's hunting journey when they've taken their 1st deer especially a Buck!! If hunting was only about meat and providing, which is a big part. Than the argument of whether they take a spike, a 3pt, a doe, or trophy Buck has no merit, it's only that "Bragg" for grown men that is the concern??
@@Andrew-bo8ct I agree in some stance but what's the difference between harvesting a doe, a spike, or a three point, or a monster buck? In my mind they are all potential food. Now if you are taking the stance of teach the youth to harvest food not antlers then yes I 100% agree.
Just make sure the little ones have their cell phones 😮
It’s funny to see all these hunters who don’t give a damn about conservation say “ I don’t like that kids can’t shoot a buck in their one special hunt” my brother in Christ we need to get rid of all the damn doe we have. It’s getting changed for a reason 😂
Most of these do NOT take effect until the 2025 season
All hail the trophy hunters. Lesser beings like children and the disabled must abandon hope and traditionalists must foreswear their foolish ethics. All must bow to the alter money and ego. They may only harvest a buck if their betters allow them, and only if the masters deem the buck worthy. No hunt may be deemed acceptable unless it feeds the ego of the trophy hunter and furthers their goals. Any other reason or objective for hunting is blasphemy and must be stuck down. Only the true believer may recieve the blessing of the hunt.
Where’s your safety harness!!!! 🦌🦌🦌
I had my saddle on and connected to the tree just out of frame...safety first
There’s always that one wimp that worries about a safety harness.
Don't understand the reason for the liberty hunt. If they can get to woods , they should be made to hunt with the rest of use. I am handicapped but can't hunt in the liberty hunt.
So you dont have a qualifying disability?
@@Dcm193 I didn't get my disability when in the military.
@@RichardParker-k3y so you are mad that kids and vets who got hurt serving their country get a few extra days because you aren’t included in that? That attitude is why states have straight wall laws
@Dcm193 NO I am picked of because I am a vet of the Vietnam War. I got rotten food and thrower at me and fellow vets. Now todays vets are heros and they doing the same things. The country is a screwed up. You can say what you want.
It was brought up on Michigan Out of Doors that there are many disabled folks who hunt the liberty season because they can't handle the cold in the later season due to whatever their disability is.
I know it will never happen but it would be great if they outlawed crossbows unless you are youth, senior, or disabled. Also need to bring strict muzzleloader back. Don’t like the idea of early antlerless firearm on stateland and finally make a 1 buck state!
Horn hunting is the BIGGEST problem 😊
You got my vote.
Dumb two licence's talk about extortion
Anyone who complains that a child shouldn’t be able to harvest a buck early, during a two day hunt, shouldn’t be allowed to hunt!
If we want more kids to hunt they need to be able to shoot a buck during the youth hunt. Hunting is really falling off here in Michigan. We need the younger generation to keep it going and what better way than shooting a big buck or any buck they choose.
I don’t mean to play devils advocate but what happens to that same kid that shoots a 130” buck they’re first time out and thinks that’s how it always goes? I just feel that it teaches them on how to go on guided hunts and not appreciate hunting itself.
@@jonathanhahn3014 That is a great point and something to consider.
How about kids that enjoy and thrill of the hunt and the outdoors?
I say outlaw the hunt completely "the youth hunt"
We NEED to get more kids in the woods and AWAY for the electronics!!!!! (that is what is killing this world!)
@@davidcross5688 It's not going to happen.The ph.ext will forever rot the mind.its actually public schools.
@@davidcross5688 Government is the guilty culprit 😎