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I've been painting for over 20 years, but I have never really tried to sell my art. I am now thinking about it, and I am SO VERY GLAD I found your videos. I did not know any of this. Thank you!
I have avoided online galleries. But I have also found my art that I posted on social media, stolen, and selling as prints along with several other artists I knew. We all came down on that site, and they closed FAST. I learned to post my art at 72dpi. I sometimes forget, but have to redo my postings
Also (after running my own site for ~20 years) it's really not that much work over time. Yes, the initial, say, 3 weeks, yeah you are doing all the code and pictures and stuff and those 3 weeks are a pain in the ass. But then its up, and the work you put in is just a little maintenance and updating here and there. I spend about an hour a week tidying up my site (if that) and then another 12 hours or so running Shopify (which includes packing prints / fulfilling orders), which is really not that much.
But the point is that if you have decided to sell your art online is the way to go. You either run the website yourself or outsource it because using those art gallery websites costs you a lot more in commissions and as pointed out in the video you do not get that vital list of customers and fans you can contact.@@asuka4e
I’m in the very early stages of starting my own art business, so I’ve been hyper-focused on researching the most efficient way to go about it. I’ve watched so many videos from various people and hands down, you have the MOST informative information. It’s very helpful and I’m really grateful for your decision to share so much information based off your success. I’ll be sharing your content on my growing IG with my tight knit of group of growing artists. Thank you, again. 👏🏻❤️
Concentrate on the quality of 'your art'. Be careful about quick fix solutions. There is a lot of amateurish stuff out there; business models might not always hit the spot.
I've noticed that a lot of online galleries tend to feature, market, and promote artists who are already popular and making good sales, and have decent social media followings already. The artists who are there at the beginning of the platform, are the ones who benefit from that early exposure because there isn't much competition. But when it becomes popular, you get lost in the saturated market. Many of these online galleries also insist, in the terms of agreement, that you're not allowed to refer to or link your own website or social media. What you said is exactly right - they want to benefit from your own online presence bringing them traffic, but don't reciprocate.
Once an online gallery has your email list those customers are no longer yours, they belong to the gallery. The gallery can then use your customers to sell artwork from other artists leaving you with nothing. The moral of the story is keep control of what's yours
@@mypointofview1111Only and only if they can sell anything to those people in that mail list or that mail list despite of them now owning it can be totally useless if they can't sell anything to the people in that mail list. It is very hard to sell anything to someone else's customers. Very hard....People buy...BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU. Rarely can anyone take someone else's customers.
This is a fantastic video. I just paused my e-commerce website yesterday because I made 1 sale in a year! I was searching online for help and found your video. I canceled subscriptions to other things that for. a year have been confusing and useless for me. I need help. My art is really good but I need to figure out how to find people who give a $#!+ about it. Thanks, Dries.
Thanks Man, Dries I honestly love your vlog... from watching your videos I believe you are more of a life coach than just an artist. Your advice applies to every aspect or perspective of merchandise not just Art's... thanks you once again, we need more honest people like you in the online entrepreneurship stage 👍
A couple of years ago, I read brick and mortar galleries can entrap artists and then the collectors make the lion's share of the profits. Probably why Damien Hurst no longer uses galleries. This video is pure gold. How to avoid being exploited by the mass online galleries is THE most important message. Keep your data for your website, yeah...mm hmmm...
These videos are super helpful Dries, thanks. i am working with an artist at the moment who creates fantastic art but needs help marketing it, which I think might involve me ! Learning fast, thanks!
Nice, just seeing this comment now and seeing that it's been like a year ago I'd love to ask how helping the artist to market their going for you because your comment sounds like something I'm trying to do with my artist right now... Pls I'd like a response from you
Hey I don’t comment on anything just wanted to say that bc I’m honestly not trying to be rude or mean but I’m sitting here 15mins in and you haven’t said anything I watch so much UA-cam I’m constantly trying to learn new things ect but I feel this video told me nothing I honestly wish I had that 20 mins back honestly.
You are so right about brick and mortar galleries. I am listed with one in Florida, I'm an eclectic Artist. They prefer palm trees and Florida plants. Very frustrating. Thank you for your input. Helped enormously.
Thank you Dries! this episode truly clarified some questions about online galleries and their benefit for selling my abstract paintings. I agree that it would be very wise to drive traffic directly to my website to grow my collector base. I will be watching more!
I'm happy to clarify some stuff Audrey, hope to see you around. And if you ever have questions or you would like to see something specific explained on the channel. Please let me know. I would love to help you out with some future videos.
I’m on several of the online galleries you speak of and a few others. I have sold quite a lot of art on most of them repeatedly over a few years. However I totally agree that these places are over saturated with too many artists these days and you can easily get lost in the hundreds of thousands of pieces of art for sale. Also paying them 40 to 50% commissions which forces me to up my prices so I don’t walk away with a payment I’m not happy with. I have a website, a good one but I don’t pay for ongoing SEO because it is expensive to do so. It’s a difficult situation. I do sell directly via social media too. Still I’d definitely like more sales. Last year (2020) was my best sales year yet. This year has been up and down so far. Art isn’t an easy game to play. P.S. I don’t care about awards I care about selling my art.
I have been an artist for five decades. I have sold a few pieces. I was unlucky as far as producing in hard economic times, plus not concerning myself with making a lot of money, only exhibiting. I almost hate watching these videos, because I knew what it cost, and I am low income, plus so many brick and mortar galleries that are legit didn’t really hustle, and they needed to. My art was also not “appealing” to a mass audience. My head was full of the MFA aesthetic syndrome, that people would understand and the “right” collectors will want to buy. By the time I graduated, I was already exhibiting in the 1970s, 80s and 90s. I was WRONG. But I had many other distractions as a painter. Life happened. Serious life. I still produced, but I was busy trying to find a day job. It is a fantasy that everyone is going to sell enough of their art to make a living off of it. Also, at least in Los Angeles, there is the more occurring and DISGUSTING pay for play model practice in brick and mortar galleries. The artist is expected to pay thousands to show on a wall. I am morally opposed to these galleries and they are popping up all over L.A. At age 68, my days are numbered, so that is a BIG strike against me. I am still an unknown, and my art when I die will probably go to family, or the Goodwill (I have known some excellent artists who found their art at thrift shops). Reknowned art critic Jerry Saltz basically said to love making your art, and don’t make it just to sell, because a person who becomes an art star is an extreme rarity.
Bravo, bravo and thank you so much. What you have said is exactly what I have experienced about those POD sites. It's only been one month since I uploaded my art to 2 POD sites. And I can already see the "scam". Without my driving people to my page, NO one sees my art. They want me to do all the promoting and on of that, they get the majority of the profits from the sale!! It's disgusting!!!
I'm an emerging artist and I'm trying to find my way in to the ofline art galleries but the information which you share here it's like real gold. I new also from before that the best way is to have your own website and sell yourself but I was never sure about that idea. Your video and way of explanation was so clear for me, thanks to you I have now no doubts.
This is very insightful. I got recommended this video, a pleasant surprise. My artwork will probably never sell, but I love to make them 😂 Anyway, you got a new subscriber 🎉
5:20 exactly. You have to pay the platform after YOU bring YOUR customer to the platform and not that you pay that percent because the platform got the customer for you.
Great video Dries. I've had some success on Saatchi but its extremely saturated, they almost always heavily discount the work and I think their image quality is the worst out of all of the online platforms I sell my art on. On the other hand, being able to show at THE OTHER ART FAIR is a major benefit when you're just starting out and have no other thing to put on a CV. Its the hippest fair for emerging artists that I've seen in the US. I agree with your points in this video and never drive traffic away from my own store to these other platforms. They should be driving their own traffic. Also, some of the sites only let the artist see shipping addresses but I've had success asking for the collector email address so that I can follow with direct marketing campaigns. Looking forward to watching your other videos - thanks!!
Seriously? Saatchi allowed you to do this? They gave you the contact info of the collector? Because I recently had a sale wit them but couldn't find the artwork anymore and wanted to contact the collector with apologies and a proposal to make up for my mistake and things like that but they didn't gave me the contact info... Ps: Please answer in a new comment because UA-cam only shows me new comments and not responses to responses.
3:00 you are right because these platforms aren't bringing business for artists. There aren't buyers on those platforms that buy artists artwork. The artists are expected to bring THEIR customers to the platform. In that case this is like having a website.
Glad you like them! If I can help you with something specific you're always welcome to send me a message on IG. I know out of personal experience some big IG and UA-cam art accounts with 100's of thousands of followers who barely sell any art. It often only takes a couple of easy adjustments to make their channels lucrative.
This is such valuable wisdom. This took me too many years to figure out too and what I end up arguing about with other artists. These sites prey on the desperation artists feel to build their career and their lack of business / marketing knowledge to never see through their strategy.
Subscribed. Yeah, it's interesting that although a site may have millions of visitors a year you may get very few views or none at all.. I have seen this happen time-and-time again and have come to expect it. Self-promotion and knowing how to market yourself is crucial.
Shipping art without having to pay astronomic costs once you have sold your art is also quite a challenge. Hope you will talk about your experience with this.
I saw one of your vlogs promoting selling work on SaatchiArt where you said you’ve been featured in ‘editor’s picks’ etc (me too.) & now in THIS vlog you’re dissing all online galleries!?!?! You said you’d give an imaginary example of an online gallery to avoid - & then called it Artfinder! I’ve sold lots of paintings on Artfinder🔴 (under my artist name not this UA-cam one) & disagree that they aren’t worth using. Yes, they take 33% or more commission (less than bricks & mortar galleries) but successful artists on the platform make allowances for that in their pricing STRATEGY. Artists’ work gets found on these galleries by specified genres & keywords. These online platforms have massive followers on social media & email marketing lists which most individual artists so not have so it’s worth giving it a try.
At first I thought “..oh here we go again…. another guy with a wild hair dew who thinks he’s Elvis.” But you are the real deal man! You are Elvis! Lol I’m just kidding Dries man thank you for all the great videos. This one in particular is so good. You have really got a lot of knowledge on this stuff. I appreciate that you share it.
I appreciate your channel, I think for an artist to have their own website is best but the SEO challenge is mega real and can be a cripplingly long process not only in time but money too.
Dries. Hi, my name is Fintan. This is an unbelievably important and effective channel. I am starting a painting business. All of this information is just fabulous. I hope you get millions of subscribers. You deserve it for the content you are creating. Do you do private consultations?
Yes I do private consultations At the moment everything is full though but if you want I can put you on the list for when things open up (no obligations). Send me a message with your email or preferred way of getting contacted to driesketels(((at)))driesketels(((dot)))com
Hi Dries, been binging your videos for the last couple of days 😊 and, I must say that other than being really entertaining, I also find lots of good advice in them. So thanks for that.
Dora, that's just lovely to hear. You are the best... If there is anything else that you would want me to cover please let me know. As I'm constantly trying to understand what people would want me to cover more of.
Thank you so much for this. I have suspected online art galleries were a scam but feel lost with out them. Artfinder is a joke. I'm done with them :) I will put more effort and time into my web site etc now.
Thank you so much! I just found you, trying to search for information about selling art prints. And that’s the most honest and full information. I will definitely look forward for the next videos.
Hey Dries, having done SEO copywriting for other businesses and my own blogs, I understood the first time through. You're exactly right on this. Thanks for waking me back up. Namaste'.
Dude, we all have to pay our dues. first 40 percent is not bad if you are not established. as a top pick. show case artist. so you need to work, you have issues with established artist getting showcase status. they have put in their time and hve earned it.. now you also seem to think that if you share. the site to drum up traffic is BS because you are not getting paid for it.. there is not how it work. most if not all sites that you use for a service they will ask for your help to spread the word. this you should be ok with .I think you feel like you are not being appreciated for your work enough. also you are more about money and not the art, the reason I say that. is because you are pushing to add TAGS TAGS TAGS. also you say if you have to change your painting or art to fir the # or TAG not what you felt when you did your art.. I think you might have pissed a few off. like ARTFINDER. and now you are just wanting to grab artist to like your channel... you are wanting other Artist to more or less spam your channel. you even say watch it over and over.. I have never felt ill toward another artist. I don't think older artist will get behind this. they all know that you have to put in the time and work.. but a lot of new artist or struggling artist who have quit every thing hoping to make it off sales.. also what you are pushing at the end is what you where complaining about earlier.. also what you do in the end driving traffic you can do that also with or with out getting a little more help from a artist channel.
I m a new artist, I only have two pieces but it took me 25 years to be able to inspire myself at will and now that I can do that i can produce beautiful artwork. Thank you Dries for the video as it helps me A WHOLE LOT to also understand how I can sell my Art, be strategic and plan well to achieve the best results without self sabotaging and devaluating my work. Thanks, liked and subscribed 😊
Google does not have a ad word category for "art" be advised when doing any paid ads. Most of the off shoot companies use ad words since this term does not exist art is what every the highest binder says it is or could be. Got it.
Fun fact. I have store in etsy. I'm the one who brings 85% of the traffic. They provide me only 15% which is pretty small amount. I feel like it's better to open shopify store for myself.
Friktion hell! Great Content, i should show this to my artteachers. I’m concerned that no one else in my class seems to think about the "surviving as an artist aspect" of being an artist.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. We right brains need helpful empowering information inorder to take art and the business thereof into our own hands.
Don't have to much experience with it but I think it's the same as all the others. If you're interested in what my perspective on that is watch my video 'WooCommerce VS shopify" it's going to help you out a lot
First, thanks for sharing your insights, it's really helpful. And really like your style and approach to sharing what you know. In one of your videos you mention people laughing at your accent. I'm Danish, if anyone has a laughable accent in English, then it's us. Anyway, I was wondering, I'm considering making my own website to sell my photos there as prints. It's going to be a side hustle, so I'm trying to find something to help me ease much of the work, and I was thinking of connecting a pod service such as Fine Art America to the website, so people can by prints directly from my website, and they will do the printing and shipping. I'm aware of the commission, but feel that it's "worth" not having to take care of the printing myself. Or is there an alternative, which would be better?
completely off topic but i read somewhere that Swedes and Norwegian think the Danish language is "funny". I think it's because they're so similar but not exact that you can understand but not 100%, maybe 90%, and that disconnect is what's "funny".
I love your videos!!! definitely underrated and I am eternally grateful for this valuable information and navigation into my art career. Your personality is awesome and the content is so clear and helpful! Bless you
Thank you Dries, this is great information. I have not been happy about my artwork on an online website (no sales only after 10 months though). Listening to your experience, calculations and knowledge helped me to go and delete the artwork from the online profile. By the way, and you've probably experienced this (or others have too) I couldn't delete my profile information from the online gallery pages...had to request assistance to do this. Thank you again and I'll watch your other videos.
You are right. In the first few years of saatchi online, they did promote my art, but when it became too big, the traffic I got was from my own marketing $$ driving traffic to their website.
What happened to you first comment? I was reading it, and wanted to read further so I click on it and then it's gone. And now I'm curious towards the end of the comment. XD
This previous comment was deleted by... someone. Whom? Interesting. Can someone other than you delete comments on your site? Basically, I waited for + 1 month after the sale with messages telling me to wait, that the shipping was being slightly postponed (no further infos, at first they were not even telling me the reason or where it was going, I had to keep calling and sending messages to finally get the destination country). As I said, Saatchi doesn't have shipping arrangements for art shipped from Canada to Canada (and I suspect this is the case for many other countries when a painting is not shipped internationally) therefore in case of large paintings, the costs are prohibitive for them and do not fit in their business model. Last time it happened, it was a small work and I did the arrangements myself in the end. They paid. This time, after the costs of crate-packing it and 5 weeks of waiting with as little information as possible from their part, the buyer cancelled its purchase, of course, and I have to assume the costs of building the large wood crate for nothing.
I finally got a full explanation from Saatchi that is genuine. So it seems that yes, Covid19 had to do with the inability to ship this big painting. Profuse apologies from them. I am satisfied with it. This was just the kick I needed to start my own selling website for smaller artwork (shipping logistics can be very challenging and costly for large work), at least for now. Thanks for the tips.
Hello Dries, dag Dries ;-) Thank you so much for your savvy, funny and generous videos. Very refreshing in the world of creative souls, where marketing your work is still too often considered as a little bit embarrassing. I'm a writer who started painting as part of my research for my novel about a painter. Since then it has become a thing in itself. I have been thinking about creating an account on Saatchiart. The challenge for me will be to stop hesitating and making up my mind. Anyway, you have been very helpful in that process, so thank you again for that!
Grab the free Art Fair Checklist Here (20+ pages):
forms.gle/QiUTYtw4i9AXE6tb7
You'll learn:
- How to sell art: Following our guide will equip you with strategies that could significantly boost your art fair profits. Imagine making consistent income from your art.
- Boosted Confidence and Recognition: Navigate art fairs with the poise of an experienced artist. Your newfound confidence will not only attract more admirers but also open doors to invaluable connections and opportunities in the future.
- Save Money: Learn to budget effectively, ensuring you maximize returns while keeping expenses in check.
I've been painting for over 20 years, but I have never really tried to sell my art. I am now thinking about it, and I am SO VERY GLAD I found your videos. I did not know any of this. Thank you!
ditto
I know I can trust this guy because he looks like a crazy artist.
Absolutely. He dances to his own drum like we all should do!
Underrated compliment
You people are getting lost in the details while not selling any art at all.
Ok, thanks but I would like to know where can I sell my work?
i dont believe you even explained what is SEO and what it stands for?
I have avoided online galleries. But I have also found my art that I posted on social media, stolen, and selling as prints along with several other artists I knew. We all came down on that site, and they closed FAST. I learned to post my art at 72dpi. I sometimes forget, but have to redo my postings
Good to know. 72dpi is what I will start doing.
What is posting as 72dpi?
@@buffooneryterminator3423 the resolution you're posting the image at. 72dpi makes it harder to print out
Thanks for such an idea!
Genius!!
Maintaining a website to market your own work is an extra job.
you can outsource it.
If you outsource it you will have to spend money for that all the Time and when you stop doing it you won' t have enough knowledge to keep UP with it.
Also (after running my own site for ~20 years) it's really not that much work over time. Yes, the initial, say, 3 weeks, yeah you are doing all the code and pictures and stuff and those 3 weeks are a pain in the ass. But then its up, and the work you put in is just a little maintenance and updating here and there. I spend about an hour a week tidying up my site (if that) and then another 12 hours or so running Shopify (which includes packing prints / fulfilling orders), which is really not that much.
But the point is that if you have decided to sell your art online is the way to go. You either run the website yourself or outsource it because using those art gallery websites costs you a lot more in commissions and as pointed out in the video you do not get that vital list of customers and fans you can contact.@@asuka4e
It's not that difficult. What is there to maintain except putting up updated products?
I’m in the very early stages of starting my own art business, so I’ve been hyper-focused on researching the most efficient way to go about it. I’ve watched so many videos from various people and hands down, you have the MOST informative information. It’s very helpful and I’m really grateful for your decision to share so much information based off your success. I’ll be sharing your content on my growing IG with my tight knit of group of growing artists. Thank you, again. 👏🏻❤️
That's just awesome to hear... Sharing is the best compliment I can get Kathryn so thank you very much...
Concentrate on the quality of 'your art'. Be careful about quick fix solutions. There is a lot of amateurish stuff out there; business models might not always hit the spot.
I've noticed that a lot of online galleries tend to feature, market, and promote artists who are already popular and making good sales, and have decent social media followings already. The artists who are there at the beginning of the platform, are the ones who benefit from that early exposure because there isn't much competition. But when it becomes popular, you get lost in the saturated market. Many of these online galleries also insist, in the terms of agreement, that you're not allowed to refer to or link your own website or social media. What you said is exactly right - they want to benefit from your own online presence bringing them traffic, but don't reciprocate.
Yes those are some powerful thoughts for sure. I do think that there is something to say about being early in platforms and social media in general.
Once an online gallery has your email list those customers are no longer yours, they belong to the gallery. The gallery can then use your customers to sell artwork from other artists leaving you with nothing. The moral of the story is keep control of what's yours
@@mypointofview1111Only and only if they can sell anything to those people in that mail list or that mail list despite of them now owning it can be totally useless if they can't sell anything to the people in that mail list. It is very hard to sell anything to someone else's customers. Very hard....People buy...BECAUSE THEY KNOW YOU. Rarely can anyone take someone else's customers.
This is a fantastic video. I just paused my e-commerce website yesterday because I made 1 sale in a year! I was searching online for help and found your video. I canceled subscriptions to other things that for. a year have been confusing and useless for me. I need help. My art is really good but I need to figure out how to find people who give a $#!+ about it. Thanks, Dries.
Thanks Man, Dries I honestly love your vlog... from watching your videos I believe you are more of a life coach than just an artist. Your advice applies to every aspect or perspective of merchandise not just Art's... thanks you once again, we need more honest people like you in the online entrepreneurship stage 👍
A couple of years ago, I read brick and mortar galleries can entrap artists and then the collectors make the lion's share of the profits. Probably why Damien Hurst no longer uses galleries.
This video is pure gold. How to avoid being exploited by the mass online galleries is THE most important message. Keep your data for your website, yeah...mm hmmm...
Watch the film Velvet Buzzsaw
These videos are super helpful Dries, thanks. i am working with an artist at the moment who creates fantastic art but needs help marketing it, which I think might involve me ! Learning fast, thanks!
Very happy to hear that Richard! Good luck with helping the artist out!
Nice, just seeing this comment now and seeing that it's been like a year ago I'd love to ask how helping the artist to market their going for you because your comment sounds like something I'm trying to do with my artist right now... Pls I'd like a response from you
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Hey I don’t comment on anything just wanted to say that bc I’m honestly not trying to be rude or mean but I’m sitting here 15mins in and you haven’t said anything I watch so much UA-cam I’m constantly trying to learn new things ect but I feel this video told me nothing I honestly wish I had that 20 mins back honestly.
What would you have improved Jessica? What would you have liked to see after watching the title?
You are so right about brick and mortar galleries. I am listed with one in Florida, I'm an eclectic Artist. They prefer palm trees and Florida plants. Very frustrating. Thank you for your input. Helped enormously.
Palm trees.... sounds like something I would not want to make... Thanks for taking the time to write a comment Cher
stay away from small-town art galleries unless that small town is a major tourist attraction.
Thank you Dries! this episode truly clarified some questions about online galleries and their benefit for selling my abstract paintings. I agree that it would be very wise to drive traffic directly to my website to grow my collector base. I will be watching more!
I'm happy to clarify some stuff Audrey, hope to see you around. And if you ever have questions or you would like to see something specific explained on the channel. Please let me know. I would love to help you out with some future videos.
I’m on several of the online galleries you speak of and a few others. I have sold quite a lot of art on most of them repeatedly over a few years. However I totally agree that these places are over saturated with too many artists these days and you can easily get lost in the hundreds of thousands of pieces of art for sale. Also paying them 40 to 50% commissions which forces me to up my prices so I don’t walk away with a payment I’m not happy with. I have a website, a good one but I don’t pay for ongoing SEO because it is expensive to do so. It’s a difficult situation. I do sell directly via social media too. Still I’d definitely like more sales. Last year (2020) was my best sales year yet. This year has been up and down so far. Art isn’t an easy game to play. P.S. I don’t care about awards I care about selling my art.
That's the spirit, less awards more sales... from what you are telling me I think you are doing great Lisa keep it up.
Lisa. I believe you're doing better in sales than 99.9% rest of us out there. Congratulations.
Sorry, I don't have 24 minutes to get to the punchline. Good luck.
If you don't have 24 minutes to learn what the best place is, you don't really have a chance in the market place. Good Luck.
I have been an artist for five decades. I have sold a few pieces. I was unlucky as far as producing in hard economic times, plus not concerning myself with making a lot of money, only exhibiting. I almost hate watching these videos, because I knew what it cost, and I am low income, plus so many brick and mortar galleries that are legit didn’t really hustle, and they needed to. My art was also not “appealing” to a mass audience. My head was full of the MFA aesthetic syndrome, that people would understand and the “right” collectors will want to buy. By the time I graduated, I was already exhibiting in the 1970s, 80s and 90s. I was WRONG. But I had many other distractions as a painter. Life happened. Serious life. I still produced, but I was busy trying to find a day job. It is a fantasy that everyone is going to sell enough of their art to make a living off of it. Also, at least in Los Angeles, there is the more occurring and DISGUSTING pay for play model practice in brick and mortar galleries. The artist is expected to pay thousands to show on a wall. I am morally opposed to these galleries and they are popping up all over L.A. At age 68, my days are numbered, so that is a BIG strike against me. I am still an unknown, and my art when I die will probably go to family, or the Goodwill (I have known some excellent artists who found their art at thrift shops). Reknowned art critic Jerry Saltz basically said to love making your art, and don’t make it just to sell, because a person who becomes an art star is an extreme rarity.
More than interesting, your testimony.
I remembered a saying that says that the artist is the first consumer of his art.
Bravo, bravo and thank you so much. What you have said is exactly what I have experienced about those POD sites. It's only been one month since I uploaded my art to 2 POD sites. And I can already see the "scam". Without my driving people to my page, NO one sees my art. They want me to do all the promoting and on of that, they get the majority of the profits from the sale!! It's disgusting!!!
For some of these sites it definitely feels a bit like a scam indeed... I'm glad you are seeing the light. See you around Nascimento.
I like that you talk from experience and have in-depth know-how.
Just what i need man. looking forward to more
Very useful video - thanks - I tried to access your site btw, but got a security warning...thought you should know. cheers.
Very sketchy !!!
I'm an emerging artist and I'm trying to find my way in to the ofline art galleries but the information which you share here it's like real gold. I new also from before that the best way is to have your own website and sell yourself but I was never sure about that idea. Your video and way of explanation was so clear for me, thanks to you I have now no doubts.
This is very insightful. I got recommended this video, a pleasant surprise.
My artwork will probably never sell, but I love to make them 😂
Anyway, you got a new subscriber 🎉
5:20 exactly. You have to pay the platform after YOU bring YOUR customer to the platform and not that you pay that percent because the platform got the customer for you.
Great video Dries. I've had some success on Saatchi but its extremely saturated, they almost always heavily discount the work and I think their image quality is the worst out of all of the online platforms I sell my art on. On the other hand, being able to show at THE OTHER ART FAIR is a major benefit when you're just starting out and have no other thing to put on a CV. Its the hippest fair for emerging artists that I've seen in the US. I agree with your points in this video and never drive traffic away from my own store to these other platforms. They should be driving their own traffic. Also, some of the sites only let the artist see shipping addresses but I've had success asking for the collector email address so that I can follow with direct marketing campaigns. Looking forward to watching your other videos - thanks!!
Seriously? Saatchi allowed you to do this? They gave you the contact info of the collector?
Because I recently had a sale wit them but couldn't find the artwork anymore and wanted to contact the collector with apologies and a proposal to make up for my mistake and things like that but they didn't gave me the contact info...
Ps: Please answer in a new comment because UA-cam only shows me new comments and not responses to responses.
3:00 you are right because these platforms aren't bringing business for artists. There aren't buyers on those platforms that buy artists artwork. The artists are expected to bring THEIR customers to the platform. In that case this is like having a website.
Thank you Dries, you´re videos are always very insightful ;)
Glad you like them! If I can help you with something specific you're always welcome to send me a message on IG. I know out of personal experience some big IG and UA-cam art accounts with 100's of thousands of followers who barely sell any art. It often only takes a couple of easy adjustments to make their channels lucrative.
This is such valuable wisdom. This took me too many years to figure out too and what I end up arguing about with other artists. These sites prey on the desperation artists feel to build their career and their lack of business / marketing knowledge to never see through their strategy.
It makes me happy that I'm not alone in spreading the message Karolina. Nice to have you :)
22:00 some art platforms now got over three hundred thousand artists. I wonder vs. how many buyers?
👍 we're all left to fighting-through bzy traffic alone...Kaliyuga you see.
Sir, can you sale my painting if you don't mind please thank you
Subscribed. Yeah, it's interesting that although a site may have millions of visitors a year you may get very few views or none at all.. I have seen this happen time-and-time again and have come to expect it. Self-promotion and knowing how to market yourself is crucial.
Shipping art without having to pay astronomic costs once you have sold your art is also quite a challenge. Hope you will talk about your experience with this.
I'm not going to do that, it's too much connected to where you live and therefore not universal enough... sorry. Hope you'll find a cheap way though
You have a nice personality, and a good sense of humor, you make me laugh. Thank you for all the info and advice. Lots of appreciation darlin.
Oh that's very kind to say. Thanks
UA-cam itself is already a direct exhibitor of visual works and also a recipient of direct payments.
I saw one of your vlogs promoting selling work on SaatchiArt where you said you’ve been featured in ‘editor’s picks’ etc (me too.) & now in THIS vlog you’re dissing all online galleries!?!?!
You said you’d give an imaginary example of an online gallery to avoid -
& then called it Artfinder!
I’ve sold lots of paintings on Artfinder🔴 (under my artist name not this UA-cam one) & disagree that they aren’t worth using.
Yes, they take 33% or more commission (less than bricks & mortar galleries) but successful artists on the platform make allowances for that in their pricing STRATEGY.
Artists’ work gets found on these galleries by specified genres & keywords.
These online platforms have massive followers on social media & email marketing lists which most individual artists so not have so it’s worth giving it a try.
At first I thought “..oh here we go again…. another guy with a wild hair dew who thinks he’s Elvis.” But you are the real deal man! You are Elvis!
Lol I’m just kidding Dries man thank you for all the great videos. This one in particular is so good. You have really got a lot of knowledge on this stuff. I appreciate that you share it.
Wow, thanks
When artists meet, they talk about money. When bankers meet, they talk about art.
I appreciate your channel, I think for an artist to have their own website is best but the SEO challenge is mega real and can be a cripplingly long process not only in time but money too.
What is SEO?
I literally clicked like when and because you told me. You scare me. ;)
That's scary to me as well haha :) Merry Christmas and happy new year Antoine
Dries. Hi, my name is Fintan.
This is an unbelievably important and effective channel.
I am starting a painting business.
All of this information is just fabulous.
I hope you get millions of subscribers.
You deserve it for the content you are creating.
Do you do private consultations?
Yes I do private consultations At the moment everything is full though but if you want I can put you on the list for when things open up (no obligations). Send me a message with your email or preferred way of getting contacted to driesketels(((at)))driesketels(((dot)))com
Ps: also thank for the kind kind message that is really appreciated. You make my day.
A 'painting business'. How does that work?
You look like a more handsome Ryan Reynolds 😅
Are we looking at the same video???
Very useful pieces of advice for people like me starting to sell their works, thank you
To be a featured artist, one has to pay a good amount to the platform. You missed that point!
Liked & shared.
You have the best videos for artists. Informative and entertaining!
Awesome. Thank you my virtual witch.
Ps: What's your name actually? Anna or Alisha?
Its Alisha. I go by Anna Daia Lionfish as my artist name. Mostly because I really like it.
Great information and I love your delivery. Your voice is very soothing and yes you are pretty funny! I got the giggles a few times😃
Hi Dries, been binging your videos for the last couple of days 😊 and, I must say that other than being really entertaining, I also find lots of good advice in them. So thanks for that.
Dora, that's just lovely to hear. You are the best... If there is anything else that you would want me to cover please let me know. As I'm constantly trying to understand what people would want me to cover more of.
Does that mean you no longer sell your art on Saatchi or similar platforms, or do you just accept as an artist they are ripping you off?
Merci, Dries. Nothing but the honest true. Really appreciated!
My dream is to continue to have and especially to increase income, through the monetization of my digital art without having to print it.
I'm waiting for the day they feature Hunter B!
Who is hunter b?
@@driesketels Joe Biden's son
You’re the man… and yeah you got presidential hair
Thanks soo much. I will definitely use my own website to drive traffic if anything just to own the data. Very smart
Thank you so much for this. I have suspected online art galleries were a scam but feel lost with out them. Artfinder is a joke. I'm done with them :) I will put more effort and time into my web site etc now.
Glad I could help! And yes we all feel somewhat lost without the idea of galleries but hey... you are not alone. You can do this.
Great job. I learned a lot and you validated what I was thinking.
Glad it was helpful!
I just discovered your channel thank you for the great advices and info and you are so funny 😂💗🙏
Thank you so much! I just found you, trying to search for information about selling art prints. And that’s the most honest and full information. I will definitely look forward for the next videos.
You are so welcome Sofia! I just posted the next one 3 minutes ago :)
Hey Dries, having done SEO copywriting for other businesses and my own blogs, I understood the first time through. You're exactly right on this. Thanks for waking me back up. Namaste'.
Glad it was helpful Belinda! You got this
Thank you for the great information, however no matter how wonderful your art/products are, if your SEO is not on target … you are invisible.
thank you! your videos are sooo helpful!!
Good info! Sum up the first 15 minutes with one sentence. Don’t sell in online galleries, and just build a personal brand for years.
Thanks for the summary
Dude, we all have to pay our dues. first 40 percent is not bad if you are not established. as a top pick. show case artist. so you need to work, you have issues with established artist getting showcase status. they have put in their time and hve earned it.. now you also seem to think that if you share. the site to drum up traffic is BS because you are not getting paid for it.. there is not how it work. most if not all sites that you use for a service they will ask for your help to spread the word. this you should be ok with .I think you feel like you are not being appreciated for your work enough. also you are more about money and not the art, the reason I say that. is because you are pushing to add TAGS TAGS TAGS. also you say if you have to change your painting or art to fir the # or TAG not what you felt when you did your art.. I think you might have pissed a few off. like ARTFINDER. and now you are just wanting to grab artist to like your channel... you are wanting other Artist to more or less spam your channel. you even say watch it over and over.. I have never felt ill toward another artist. I don't think older artist will get behind this. they all know that you have to put in the time and work.. but a lot of new artist or struggling artist who have quit every thing hoping to make it off sales.. also what you are pushing at the end is what you where complaining about earlier.. also what you do in the end driving traffic you can do that also with or with out getting a little more help from a artist channel.
Congratulations on providing this valuable information for new artists I will recommend your channel.
That is the best compliment I can get, thank you so much.
And what about having your own studio?
Thanks much for insight....greatly appreciate.
First time seeing you in ever...October 19, 23...12:31 am
Welcome!
😂😂😂😂 I love your videos! And great advice
I m a new artist, I only have two pieces but it took me 25 years to be able to inspire myself at will and now that I can do that i can produce beautiful artwork. Thank you Dries for the video as it helps me A WHOLE LOT to also understand how I can sell my Art, be strategic and plan well to achieve the best results without self sabotaging and devaluating my work. Thanks, liked and subscribed 😊
Great vlog, got my own site - self built and planning to add e-commerce once I’ve taught myself how to do it
You can do it! You got this.
Hi I have art from years of 1990 I Wana sale that
Google does not have a ad word category for "art" be advised when doing any paid ads. Most of the off shoot companies use ad words since this term does not exist art is what every the highest binder says it is or could be. Got it.
Very useful breakdown of the field, thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
How i can be Sponsored? Im not getting views on my arts
Is etsy considered an online gallery?
Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank!!!!!
Very informed Dries, thank you. I am now subscribed and look forward to exploring your channel.
Thanks and welcome
At some point you and I should chat.
Fun fact. I have store in etsy. I'm the one who brings 85% of the traffic. They provide me only 15% which is pretty small amount. I feel like it's better to open shopify store for myself.
When you're able to drive traffic yourself that's always the best idea indeed.
@@driesketels Thank you for the confirmation. Appreciate it
Dries, thank you very much for your video - very helpful
This is brilliant! You are So so so so correct. Every Artist, True Artist needs to know this.
Friktion hell! Great Content, i should show this to my artteachers. I’m concerned that no one else in my class seems to think about the "surviving as an artist aspect" of being an artist.
Most people forget that part until it's too late. I would feel honored if you guys would use my videos in class. You have my permission Jenny.
Aww thanks 🙏 ❤️ - I’ll ask them! If not I’ll share it myself with my classmates!
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. We right brains need helpful empowering information inorder to take art and the business thereof into our own hands.
yo, i didnt know sun wukong was an artist
Thank you for sharing - super helpful! Just found you and subbed ❤
This is pure gold! Thank you.
Thank you for this information! What’s your thoughts on “big cartel” for selling art?
Don't have to much experience with it but I think it's the same as all the others. If you're interested in what my perspective on that is watch my video 'WooCommerce VS shopify" it's going to help you out a lot
Thank you!
Superb n imp info.. definitely hv to watch again! Bookmarked it🔥
Glad you liked it Jasmine! Have a great evening!
So helpful! Dries, as you mentioned you sold your art on saatchi, would you recommend it to a fellow artist ( Inspite of the commissions they take)?
It really depends on your goals, career, and type of art you make. For some I would recommend it and for others I wouldn't
First, thanks for sharing your insights, it's really helpful. And really like your style and approach to sharing what you know.
In one of your videos you mention people laughing at your accent. I'm Danish, if anyone has a laughable accent in English, then it's us.
Anyway, I was wondering, I'm considering making my own website to sell my photos there as prints. It's going to be a side hustle, so I'm trying to find something to help me ease much of the work, and I was thinking of connecting a pod service such as Fine Art America to the website, so people can by prints directly from my website, and they will do the printing and shipping. I'm aware of the commission, but feel that it's "worth" not having to take care of the printing myself. Or is there an alternative, which would be better?
Thanks Peter, Have you seen my vidoe 6 best pod companies for artists yet? I think that one will solve all your problems
@@driesketels no, but I will do it right away 🙂 thanks, appreciate it!
completely off topic but i read somewhere that Swedes and Norwegian think the Danish language is "funny". I think it's because they're so similar but not exact that you can understand but not 100%, maybe 90%, and that disconnect is what's "funny".
I love your videos!!! definitely underrated and I am eternally grateful for this valuable information and navigation into my art career. Your personality is awesome and the content is so clear and helpful! Bless you
You are so welcome! Thanks for the overestimate about my personality.
Excellent advice. And encouraging! Thank you for sharing your talent and expertise!
You are more then welcome.
Thank you so much for your hard work and for your valuable content.
My pleasure Amro!
Thank you Dries, this is great information. I have not been happy about my artwork on an online website (no sales only after 10 months though). Listening to your experience, calculations and knowledge helped me to go and delete the artwork from the online profile. By the way, and you've probably experienced this (or others have too) I couldn't delete my profile information from the online gallery pages...had to request assistance to do this. Thank you again and I'll watch your other videos.
I have had art online for about 9 years. I have not sold a single piece online.
Oh, you're not the only one for sure. Art is hard, selling it is even harder.
You are right. In the first few years of saatchi online, they did promote my art, but when it became too big, the traffic I got was from my own marketing $$ driving traffic to their website.
What happened to you first comment? I was reading it, and wanted to read further so I click on it and then it's gone. And now I'm curious towards the end of the comment. XD
@@driesketels It disappeared and I had nothing to do with it, strangely....
This previous comment was deleted by... someone. Whom? Interesting. Can someone other than you delete comments on your site? Basically, I waited for + 1 month after the sale with messages telling me to wait, that the shipping was being slightly postponed (no further infos, at first they were not even telling me the reason or where it was going, I had to keep calling and sending messages to finally get the destination country). As I said, Saatchi doesn't have shipping arrangements for art shipped from Canada to Canada (and I suspect this is the case for many other countries when a painting is not shipped internationally) therefore in case of large paintings, the costs are prohibitive for them and do not fit in their business model. Last time it happened, it was a small work and I did the arrangements myself in the end. They paid. This time, after the costs of crate-packing it and 5 weeks of waiting with as little information as possible from their part, the buyer cancelled its purchase, of course, and I have to assume the costs of building the large wood crate for nothing.
I finally got a full explanation from Saatchi that is genuine. So it seems that yes, Covid19 had to do with the inability to ship this big painting. Profuse apologies from them. I am satisfied with it. This was just the kick I needed to start my own selling website for smaller artwork (shipping logistics can be very challenging and costly for large work), at least for now. Thanks for the tips.
Hello Dries, dag Dries ;-)
Thank you so much for your savvy, funny and generous videos. Very refreshing in the world of creative souls, where marketing your work is still too often considered as a little bit embarrassing. I'm a writer who started painting as part of my research for my novel about a painter. Since then it has become a thing in itself. I have been thinking about creating an account on Saatchiart. The challenge for me will be to stop hesitating and making up my mind. Anyway, you have been very helpful in that process, so thank you again for that!
awsome bro again amezing video
Thanks again for your comments. Always nice to have you