I've been following Levil for a while, they have some of the best products and the prices are crazy low! I'm definitely going to be putting some of their electronics in my Experimental! Awesome channel!
🔥❤️😎After the studio interview w/Levil, they clearly are well placed in the market. Their continued growth/expansion is amazing, we are going to see great things from them, looking forward to incorporating them in my first plane. 👍😉
That’s pretty awesome. Hopefully they can keep it cheap. BTW metal gear high torque RC servos are actually just as a high quality as normal trim servos.
This has been done before over 20 years ago. Development by a Long EZ builder a trim tab on "elevator" maintained altitude. It was an open source DIY deal using early microprocessor board and static pressure. The system in this video is far more sophisticated and has roll control. However if you buy a EFIS (G3X, Dynon, GRT) the servos are $750 each and the EFIS drives the autopilot. If you have an EFIS with autopilot commands that is far better way to go to just add servos.
It would be good to consider some safety aspects. What is the size of the new trim surface compared to the elevator (or aileron) surface and the existing trim tab? Other things to consider is if the trim has a “hard-over” i.e. a failure causing full deflection in one direction how much force is required to over-power the trim? Additionally what is the maximum rate the trim tap can move? That will give you an idea how fast an upset can occur. If the elevator tab can snap into a full deflection up or down will it cause the aircraft to exceed the operating limitations ( G load)? How accessible is the “autopilot” disconnect? All of these would have to be addressed in a “certified” system for Part 23 aircraft.
Cool product and cool company. Challenge for company is "go for certification, at great cost, and so alert Garmin and Dynon, who will probably reverse engineer their products just different enough that their lawyers will Levil in legal costs" or stay in experimental.... what to do?
$2,500 is not “affordable” 😂 it’s like product manufacturers think to themselves “since this is an aviation product I’ll just multiply the price by 5!” It’s not even a certified product so you can’t blame the price on the cost of certification. It’s annoying that companies do this, even with the small things like cigarette lighter chargers.
There's still economies of scale at play here. The aviation market is tiny and development costs need to be recouped along with a bit of profit. Apple sells tens of millions of iPhones that are tiny improvements over the past version for over $1k these days and no one bats an eye.
@@ginacalabrese3869 - precisely. The R&D investment is substantial. They’ll have to move a lot of units to be profitable at $2,500 so it seems like a great value.
Maybe could add a few small pop rivets on aluminum skins. But I can say modern adhesives are amazing. I used to do some racing & built a couple aluminum sprint car wings for myself because my budget was busted. I used clear automotive rtv silicone and pop rivets. I bent one up and tried to take it apart, but it was very difficult to do without completely destroying it. I think it would have held together without any rivets. Also aren't the Grumman skins bonded.
Good to see you again Dan and thanks for the interview!
Such a cool company. I love how Osh just keeps goin.
Good morning from Minnesota! I missed these guys at Osh! I wish I would have seen them. Thanks for showcasing them!
Love all the videos you guys do with Levil, they seem like a great company making advanced functions available at a reasonable cost.
Experimental category. You’ve gotta love it!
I've been following Levil for a while, they have some of the best products and the prices are crazy low! I'm definitely going to be putting some of their electronics in my Experimental! Awesome channel!
Cool idea. I really like the idea of it.
🔥❤️😎After the studio interview w/Levil, they clearly are well placed in the market. Their continued growth/expansion is amazing, we are going to see great things from them, looking forward to incorporating them in my first plane. 👍😉
These guys have some really great ideas!
That’s really awesome. Thanks for sharing !!!
That’s pretty awesome. Hopefully they can keep it cheap. BTW metal gear high torque RC servos are actually just as a high quality as normal trim servos.
It is my understanding that these are HiTec RC servos that they use.
This has been done before over 20 years ago. Development by a Long EZ builder a trim tab on "elevator" maintained altitude. It was an open source DIY deal using early microprocessor board and static pressure. The system in this video is far more sophisticated and has roll control. However if you buy a EFIS (G3X, Dynon, GRT) the servos are $750 each and the EFIS drives the autopilot. If you have an EFIS with autopilot commands that is far better way to go to just add servos.
Glad you mentioned the BOM review, I have been eagerly waiting. 😀
Im using it now. Soon to come!
It would be good to consider some safety aspects. What is the size of the new trim surface compared to the elevator (or aileron) surface and the existing trim tab? Other things to consider is if the trim has a “hard-over” i.e. a failure causing full deflection in one direction how much force is required to over-power the trim? Additionally what is the maximum rate the trim tap can move? That will give you an idea how fast an upset can occur. If the elevator tab can snap into a full deflection up or down will it cause the aircraft to exceed the operating limitations ( G load)? How accessible is the “autopilot” disconnect? All of these would have to be addressed in a “certified” system for Part 23 aircraft.
So that’s sticking to the outside of the wing? Not sure if I like that
Well, it’s bolted in, not like it’s on a sticker or something.
@@TakingOff oh, then I misunderstood it. Cool
I like the idea, but I’m concerned about when it gets a little bumpy? I would love to see testing videos with unaffiliated pilots.
She said she is still waiting for your baum review? what is a baum and when will you review it?
BOM. It's their wing mounted AHRS unit. I'm using it right now and will make a review soon.
@@TakingOff Ah, thanks so much...that sounds awesome
Cool product and cool company. Challenge for company is "go for certification, at great cost, and so alert Garmin and Dynon, who will probably reverse engineer their products just different enough that their lawyers will Levil in legal costs" or stay in experimental.... what to do?
I like her.
Very interesting idea. Hope it can’t be hacked or little Johnny might have some fun giving you the ride of your life. Just saying.
Pull the breaker in the dash. Assuming it even has internet connectivity.
$2,500 is not “affordable” 😂 it’s like product manufacturers think to themselves “since this is an aviation product I’ll just multiply the price by 5!” It’s not even a certified product so you can’t blame the price on the cost of certification. It’s annoying that companies do this, even with the small things like cigarette lighter chargers.
There's still economies of scale at play here. The aviation market is tiny and development costs need to be recouped along with a bit of profit. Apple sells tens of millions of iPhones that are tiny improvements over the past version for over $1k these days and no one bats an eye.
@@ginacalabrese3869 - precisely. The R&D investment is substantial. They’ll have to move a lot of units to be profitable at $2,500 so it seems like a great value.
Did she say that $2500 included the BOM?
This is a cool company doing innovative things, but if you think I'm gonna use a peel-and-stick solution on an airplane, you're nuts.
Yeah it seems crazy, but certain adhesives are stronger than riveted connections.
Maybe could add a few small pop rivets on aluminum skins.
But I can say modern adhesives are amazing. I used to do some racing & built a couple aluminum sprint car wings for myself because my budget was busted. I used clear automotive rtv silicone and pop rivets. I bent one up and tried to take it apart, but it was very difficult to do without completely destroying it. I think it would have held together without any rivets.
Also aren't the Grumman skins bonded.
Ananda is pretty but not as pretty as Christy. ;)
To each their own. You can't deny that Ananda has a wonderful and warm personality!