@@kikibarrios1231 Yeah, but imagine if the build a new Ninja Gaiden with what they learned while making Nioh and Nioh. Better Cameras, much better gameplay... The could knock it out of the park with a new ninja gaiden
We were literally a Boss Encounter to William. * We had Yokai abilities * We could transform * We had a wider moveset depending on how we build ourselves And his damage output is similar to us going back to a low level Human Boss, except now we are the enemy.
It felt like my Hiddy was the boss in this fight. Like William just happened upon my tomb and awakened his next big bad encounter. I loved it. No doubt my favorite fight in the game.
I loved this fight specifically because if we get down to brass tax... you're playing as Otakemaru since he's directly controlling Hide! Was too damn cool.
It's also possible that William didn't want to "tip his hand" to his enemies while rescuing his son unnecessarily, so he was saving his stronger abilities as his "ace in the hole". Plus, in the latter case, he had Hide there to help him the entire time, and we all know just how powerful Hide really is by that point in the story, considering Hide is strong enough that they're pretty much ready for their final showdown with Otakemaru from the moment William frees them from being possessed. Plus, when William fought Hide, the fact that he'd clearly already met Mumyo meant that she had probably warned him ahead of time about how strong Hide was just in case something "went wrong". Plus, it's possible that he'd also heard about Hide's strength and prowess from his/her allies (like Hanzo), and just how much Hide could handle, as evidenced by how many "suicide missions" Hide took on and completed without losing his/her life.
I really didn't expect to see William in 2, the whole time-skip part was really well done and set up nicely for the coming DLCs. It was done perfectly as a climax to the story too, neither William or Maria overstayed their welcome.
For as flexible as William was during our time as him in Nioh 1, I actually really love how his canon equipment is a sword and spear, (specifically using Shima Sakon's spear that we can very likely assume was gifted to him during their last encounter or at some point after), as it suggests a foreigner such as him would gravitate towards the weapons he felt most familiar with back home. Esoteric weapons such as tonfa or the kusarigama he probably at least tried to grasp before dropping them, and he probably took one look at the switchglaive or splitstaff and wrote them off immediately.
I still don't get his choice on the sword. The sword he uses has no story meaning. It's not the Raikiri he got from Ginchiyo which in my eyes would've made more sense.
@@NeocrimsonX I meant in the game. I know about William Adams. But in game he never gets the blade he fights us with. While he gets the spear from Shima Sakon.
It's like that in Nioh 1 aswell. The Japanese intended for the character to speak English, logical as a foreigner who just arrived and could not have mastered Japanese. Hattori Hanzo (English/Japanese speaking Ninja) interprets for him.
@@RavusNox-z5i It's been a while since I played Nioh 1 but doesn't Nekomata work some magic on William so he can understand Japanese, and anyone he speaks to understands his English? Or am I just misremembering?
They haven’t officially that nioh 2 is the last because they wanted to focus on other project first. So, definitely we will get the nioh 3 we all desire to have.
@@ГлебКаменский-я7й Haha yeah I feel like the only way my Nioh 1 Willian would have a chance against my Nioh 2 Hide is if he spammed spirit stones to stay in LW all the time. Otherwise Hide destroys him with Burst Counters and Yokai Abilities
This fight is a straight up feat for William because not only did he re-kill yamata no orochi after Kelly brought it back with the amrita which was something only the smarts of the god susano was able to pull off, but he also knocked otakemaru (one of the three legendary yokai) out of hide while he was being controlled by him. He killed He also killed Tamamo-no-mae (nine tailed fox) which is another one of the three legendary yokai. He also encounterd all three great unifiers, fighting and surviving an encounter with Oda Nobunaga, helping Tokugawa ieyasu bring an end to the warring states period and he was by hideyoshi's side while hide was battling otakemaru from within. This man has been through the most brutal things feudal Japan could throw at him and he conquered it.
I find it a really nice touch, that Hide/Otakemaru seems completely oblivious to Williams Living Weapon. Because, when you think about it, they‘ve never actually seen it before. Everyone else in Nioh 2 uses Yokai-Shift and/or the Dark Realm instead. Yes it’s a small difference, but it’s a difference nonetheless. So I like to think of that cutscene as Hide/Otakemaru thinking William just put on a Water-Talisman, and getting unexpectedly overwhelmed by this being so much more than just an Elemental buff.
As much as I love this fight, I’m a bit conflicted on whether or not they should’ve had William use the gear players had on him in the previous game. As cool as that would be, it would also mean I’d have to fight my William, who’s decked out in Hayabusa armor and weapons and can do both the Art of the Inferno and the Izuna drop. Lol
Yeah, but the idea is that he not your William anymore, as you can see, he now has a son, and other priorities. Hide is your character now, and always was, he/she is the one who brought peace in the end, and it was him/her who layered the foundations for Williams story, but his story is finished, you finished it along with Tokichiro’s and Maria’s, the focus is now on Hide and maybe Mumyo.
ᛋᛟᚾ ᛟᚠ ᚨᛋᚷᚨᚱᛞ Hence why I said I was conflicted on it, along with other reasons, such as the fact that it’s easier to develop a more set in stone version of William than account for many different player builds. I was just thinking of other ways the fight could’ve gone.
like with xenoverse 2. you can pick your character from the 1st game to be the hero in the 2nd game and you get to fight your 1st game character later on in the game. sounds like it would've been a cool idea. but it would've be an optional thing to have him normal or the gear and level you had from the previous game to shot up the difficulty of the fight. and is so they should give a mission reward bonus if that william is higher. if the other williem happened to be close to the level in the mission. the reward well stay the same. but here's the catch. you have to beat the game to unlock the option.
What if the game mechanic here is that the game searches if you have Nioh 1 installed and pulls your OP build there and uses that as the William boss? We would be fucked.
imagine Nioh 3 where you get to play either as a human, a half-breed human yokai and a yokai with a guardian spirit. Each of their unique stories of how and why they became what they are.
if there was pvp at all (or even a way to make it cross game compatible) in nioh, this would be the fight to have 2 people test their skills against each other at the end.
i really didn't want to fight him, it's like fighting myself in the past. And you know, my william have all +137-139 equipments with living weapon one shot anything )) no way william will lose to myself right now with shitty items and don't even know how to use burst counter properly
i was shocked and overjoyed over fighting my first character in nioh 1 that i copied his moves with mine; he uses a sword i use one also. the same goes for spear :3
Just realised: With Sohayamaru gone, Hide is no longer immortal. BUT, With Yaonami-hime, he now has eternal youth, just like Mumyo With Saoirse, he is immortal in battle, like William And now that he has the Sanmyo no ken, more precisely Kenmyoren, he has the power of reincarnation. Tldr: *Good luck killing him.*
Iirc he was always immortal, just the sword could focus it as his mother said, with his immortal soul and the sword, he could go back to the living, the Kenmyoren fills that role for him now, and he didnt ever age even before having the Mermaid, as we don't know how old he was since the events of his childhood, and dosan is OLD as fuck when they meet, with a second child from another woman (Ice lady, forgot her name) already grown up and matured, it'd be nice to see Hide in another game tho
@@Minamoto_1 sohayamaru's light faded after the First Samurai DLC, the spirit is freed from it as Otakemaru's aratama was vanquished and passed on, read the text after the mission. The sword's no longer "alive"
Nioh 2 being both a prequel and a sequel was a great surprise.
Too bad no Nioh 3.
@@kikibarrios1231 Yeah, but imagine if the build a new Ninja Gaiden with what they learned while making Nioh and Nioh. Better Cameras, much better gameplay... The could knock it out of the park with a new ninja gaiden
@@MadDogVelare imagine Ryu with customizable moveset
@MadDogVelare and here we are two years later, with the Hayabusa fighting style in Rise of the Ronin.
We were literally a Boss Encounter to William.
* We had Yokai abilities
* We could transform
* We had a wider moveset depending on how we build ourselves
And his damage output is similar to us going back to a low level Human Boss, except now we are the enemy.
Yep we were the boss in that case,and william had been a player.
Yep we as the player had a major upgrade from William into customizable Boss!
It felt like my Hiddy was the boss in this fight. Like William just happened upon my tomb and awakened his next big bad encounter. I loved it. No doubt my favorite fight in the game.
I loved this fight specifically because if we get down to brass tax... you're playing as Otakemaru since he's directly controlling Hide! Was too damn cool.
@@Felana1988 This kinda makes me wish they'd used Yoshitatsu's yokai models, even just for the one occasion.
Boss fight: Raikiri, Sakon Spear, several skills, Saoirse and living weapon.
Saving his son: *Sharpy Steely and Pointy Pointy Stick*
Poor old William had to give it everything he had, goes to show how extremely dangerous Hide is as an opponent at this point in the story
It's also possible that William didn't want to "tip his hand" to his enemies while rescuing his son unnecessarily, so he was saving his stronger abilities as his "ace in the hole". Plus, in the latter case, he had Hide there to help him the entire time, and we all know just how powerful Hide really is by that point in the story, considering Hide is strong enough that they're pretty much ready for their final showdown with Otakemaru from the moment William frees them from being possessed.
Plus, when William fought Hide, the fact that he'd clearly already met Mumyo meant that she had probably warned him ahead of time about how strong Hide was just in case something "went wrong". Plus, it's possible that he'd also heard about Hide's strength and prowess from his/her allies (like Hanzo), and just how much Hide could handle, as evidenced by how many "suicide missions" Hide took on and completed without losing his/her life.
I really didn't expect to see William in 2, the whole time-skip part was really well done and set up nicely for the coming DLCs. It was done perfectly as a climax to the story too, neither William or Maria overstayed their welcome.
5:27 when that nioh theme came on I got crazy chills man. this series was a masterpiece even if it only got 2 games
i cry evertim 😭
For as flexible as William was during our time as him in Nioh 1, I actually really love how his canon equipment is a sword and spear, (specifically using Shima Sakon's spear that we can very likely assume was gifted to him during their last encounter or at some point after), as it suggests a foreigner such as him would gravitate towards the weapons he felt most familiar with back home. Esoteric weapons such as tonfa or the kusarigama he probably at least tried to grasp before dropping them, and he probably took one look at the switchglaive or splitstaff and wrote them off immediately.
I still don't get his choice on the sword. The sword he uses has no story meaning. It's not the Raikiri he got from Ginchiyo which in my eyes would've made more sense.
@@DEEKPro its what he used historically
@@NeocrimsonX When?
@@DEEKPro William was a real samurai its all documented you can find much about him on the web
@@NeocrimsonX I meant in the game. I know about William Adams. But in game he never gets the blade he fights us with. While he gets the spear from Shima Sakon.
When the prequel to Nioh 1 became the sequel to Nioh 1. lol
I set the game in Japanese and still this ballsy irishman speaks in English what a chad
It's like that in Nioh 1 aswell.
The Japanese intended for the character to speak English, logical as a foreigner who just arrived and could not have mastered Japanese.
Hattori Hanzo (English/Japanese speaking Ninja) interprets for him.
@@RavusNox-z5i It's been a while since I played Nioh 1 but doesn't Nekomata work some magic on William so he can understand Japanese, and anyone he speaks to understands his English? Or am I just misremembering?
@@Twisted_Tempest You might be right lol, that went over my head
This game is epic i love William i hope we get nioh 3
we all do m8 we all do
@@giorgoskal2563 but first ninja gaiden pls
@@xpbatmanqx5535 Oh absolutely we need that first. As much as I like Nioh 1 and 2, Ryu's spent too much time in the shadows, so to speak.
They haven’t officially that nioh 2 is the last because they wanted to focus on other project first. So, definitely we will get the nioh 3 we all desire to have.
Yasuda want to focus on an action game next time, it means Ninja Gaiden probably
You're not a morning person then?
Well, no one said this was going to be easy...
Too much sleep, huh...
William: "So, you're not a morning person then?"
Me: "Nah i get red eyed whenever i see an iconic legend!"
I just beat the story earlier today and hot DAMN, this track is amazing.
You know... if you think about it, in this fight... technically THE PLAYER is the Boss in this Boss Fight xD well thats how I saw it haha
Yeah, it's kinda neat to feel like unbeatable boss. William is lucky that the game gave him an option to befriend us.
@@ГлебКаменский-я7й Haha yeah I feel like the only way my Nioh 1 Willian would have a chance against my Nioh 2 Hide is if he spammed spirit stones to stay in LW all the time. Otherwise Hide destroys him with Burst Counters and Yokai Abilities
You were the one waiting behind the big door this time
Makes sense considering we have yokai abilities and a bigger moveset depending on what skills and weapons you have.
The absolute joy I felt when I saw William is a boss was immense. Such a great moment and this theme only made it all the better.
That Cutscene alone was enough for me to tell that this was going to be an awesome Boss Fight and hot damn did this game delivered.
This fight is a straight up feat for William because not only did he re-kill yamata no orochi after Kelly brought it back with the amrita which was something only the smarts of the god susano was able to pull off, but he also knocked otakemaru (one of the three legendary yokai) out of hide while he was being controlled by him. He killed He also killed Tamamo-no-mae (nine tailed fox) which is another one of the three legendary yokai. He also encounterd all three great unifiers, fighting and surviving an encounter with Oda Nobunaga, helping Tokugawa ieyasu bring an end to the warring states period and he was by hideyoshi's side while hide was battling otakemaru from within. This man has been through the most brutal things feudal Japan could throw at him and he conquered it.
I find it a really nice touch, that Hide/Otakemaru seems completely oblivious to Williams Living Weapon. Because, when you think about it, they‘ve never actually seen it before.
Everyone else in Nioh 2 uses Yokai-Shift and/or the Dark Realm instead. Yes it’s a small difference, but it’s a difference nonetheless.
So I like to think of that cutscene as Hide/Otakemaru thinking William just put on a Water-Talisman, and getting unexpectedly overwhelmed by this being so much more than just an Elemental buff.
Nah, Maeda Toshiie used living weapon, and by this time we fought him 2 times.
@@swiftchancellor159 …I stand corrected, thank you. 👍🏻
❤ 5:15
5:27 i think that's even better xD
I agreed with u ❤👌
from 5:15 to the end is all very good
God this song is soooo good so much better than the first game tbh
As much as I love this fight, I’m a bit conflicted on whether or not they should’ve had William use the gear players had on him in the previous game. As cool as that would be, it would also mean I’d have to fight my William, who’s decked out in Hayabusa armor and weapons and can do both the Art of the Inferno and the Izuna drop. Lol
That'd be awesome. I'm hoping they raise the difficulty in the dlc.
Yeah, but the idea is that he not your William anymore, as you can see, he now has a son, and other priorities.
Hide is your character now, and always was, he/she is the one who brought peace in the end, and it was him/her who layered the foundations for Williams story, but his story is finished, you finished it along with Tokichiro’s and Maria’s, the focus is now on Hide and maybe Mumyo.
ᛋᛟᚾ ᛟᚠ ᚨᛋᚷᚨᚱᛞ Hence why I said I was conflicted on it, along with other reasons, such as the fact that it’s easier to develop a more set in stone version of William than account for many different player builds. I was just thinking of other ways the fight could’ve gone.
like with xenoverse 2. you can pick your character from the 1st game to be the hero in the 2nd game and you get to fight your 1st game character later on in the game. sounds like it would've been a cool idea. but it would've be an optional thing to have him normal or the gear and level you had from the previous game to shot up the difficulty of the fight. and is so they should give a mission reward bonus if that william is higher. if the other williem happened to be close to the level in the mission. the reward well stay the same. but here's the catch. you have to beat the game to unlock the option.
What if the game mechanic here is that the game searches if you have Nioh 1 installed and pulls your OP build there and uses that as the William boss? We would be fucked.
This soundtrack is so fucking good.
imagine Nioh 3 where you get to play either as a human, a half-breed human yokai and a yokai with a guardian spirit. Each of their unique stories of how and why they became what they are.
I love William but I love Nioh 2 more.
When the daigoji temple motif kicks in, whew
Last Samurai William Theme
I was listening to this while a fierce ranked match i was subzero and the other guy kung lao that match was so epic af will be never forget.
This fight made me happy and sad, Happy to see William again and sad that he didn't play like that in Nioh 1 when I was using Him, lmao!🤣🤣😈
That moment when you're a player and a boss at the same time
if there was pvp at all (or even a way to make it cross game compatible) in nioh, this would be the fight to have 2 people test their skills against each other at the end.
i really didn't want to fight him, it's like fighting myself in the past. And you know, my william have all +137-139 equipments with living weapon one shot anything )) no way william will lose to myself right now with shitty items and don't even know how to use burst counter properly
Willian clearly holding back
He was nerfed in the second game since we don’t control him
seeing Yokai shift vs living weapon would be neet
also during the fight it suggest in normal they are equal, till Hide eats what's left of Otakemaru
🖤🖤🖤
i was shocked and overjoyed over fighting my first character in nioh 1 that i copied his moves with mine; he uses a sword i use one also. the same goes for spear :3
Just realised:
With Sohayamaru gone, Hide is no longer immortal. BUT,
With Yaonami-hime, he now has eternal youth, just like Mumyo
With Saoirse, he is immortal in battle, like William
And now that he has the Sanmyo no ken, more precisely Kenmyoren, he has the power of reincarnation.
Tldr: *Good luck killing him.*
How was Sahayemaru gone,
Hide is able to turn his dagger into sohayamaru at will what are you talking about.
Iirc he was always immortal, just the sword could focus it as his mother said, with his immortal soul and the sword, he could go back to the living, the Kenmyoren fills that role for him now, and he didnt ever age even before having the Mermaid, as we don't know how old he was since the events of his childhood, and dosan is OLD as fuck when they meet, with a second child from another woman (Ice lady, forgot her name) already grown up and matured, it'd be nice to see Hide in another game tho
@@Minamoto_1 sohayamaru's light faded after the First Samurai DLC, the spirit is freed from it as Otakemaru's aratama was vanquished and passed on, read the text after the mission. The sword's no longer "alive"
Would be nice if there was a mission where william would use the equipement you gave him in 1
I fought with just the katana, after i beat him and i saw he was helping me on a mission i said.
"OH SHIT ITS MY BOI AGAIN YEAAAAHHH"
I wonder if there s any player who created a male character
On my first run through, I did. He had an eye patch. It was fun.
There are a lot more female revenants than male ones. lol
I made Samanosuke Akechi on my first playthrough.
I made my character look like me so yea idk why everyone made a girl for
I've made a lot of characters, a mix of both male and female throughout.
sadly that williams was too weak as boss, i won against him without dying
You were the "boss" not him. XD
Kinda wished this team developed P5 scramble instead