How to fix cables to walls
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- Опубліковано 20 кві 2019
- Fixing cables to walls can be difficult, in this video I look at a few different ways to fix cables to walls. This is particularly useful if you need to fix network cables or CCTV cables to an external wall. Profix nail plugs are also demonstrated in the video, which are especially useful if you need to fix to the brick, stone or concrete
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Hopefully you are enjoying the Bank holiday weekend.
I hope everyone has a great time 😉
Love you videos, a continuous learning curve - thanks and keep em coming
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Excellent video, thanks. Don't know how I missed it when it was first released. Learning points for me were the nail plugs, the opened saddle for several cables and drilling to open up the hole in the clip for the larger nail. All brilliant, thanks.
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As usual, top notch advice from the Ultimate Handyman. Thanks for your no-nonsense approach and the very clear instructions.
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Thanks for the info/video Chez... Have a great week - weather is fab!
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Nail plugs are a new one on me as well. Filed away for future reference! Thanks Chez.
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All the problems and answers straight to the point!! Thank you, very well done!
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Nicely explained yet again. You are a multi-skilled guy, UH. I've never seen these nail plugs - thanks for the heads-up!
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Never seen those nail plugs before - many thanks, I will certainly use them in the future! Cheers
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Love the nail plug hint, will get some of those thanks a lot, great stuff.
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Very useful video, the nail plugs are a great idea. Happy Easter!
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Great tip on the Profix nails! Ordered!
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Great tips there, thanks. Must look at nail plugs next time, had too many frustrating cases of trying to knock masonry nails into perished mortar.
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I've had my fair share of failures with masonry nails 😊
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Thanks, installed some outdoor lights with super neat cable organisation thanks to your guidance.
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The nail plugs are new to me and i buy them tuesday immediatly.
Thanks you for sharing and caring! Happy Easter sir!
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Yep 1st time I've ever encountered them also. Which merchants sell them? Use a ladder stand off, it's much safer when working at heights 😊
Not seen those nail plugs before, very nifty on rendered walls... Cheers for the great tip, I'll be getting a few of those for my Cat-5 network cables :)
They are really useful ;-)
I got mine from ebay fave.co/2DqRODp, but I'm sure most electrical retailers will sell them
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Great video with lots of very practical tips. thanks for posting this out for us
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Another great video, always wondered what was the best way to fix cables, now I know, something you can't learn from a book, the nail plugs look good...thanks
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Very useful tips here on something I’ve never managed to get 100% right. Happy Easter 👍🏻
Masonry nails can be a right pain to knock in!
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I've come back again after using the Profix nail plugs. They grip better than I ever imagined in brick and crumbly or hard mortar - and that with drilling 5.5mm holes rather than the recommended 5.0mm. My aerial cables are SO neat now.
Side note: I used plastic Roman nose cable entry plates to hide some terrible brick burst-out. The plates arrived with the backs hopelessly "unflat" so silicone wouldn't hold them flush to the wall. After immersing them in boiling water then holding them flat and spraying with cold water they worked a treat.
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Wow, I never knew you could get special plugs to nail clips into - I used to just remove the nails and put screws in and just use bog standard wall plugs. Also, I like your life hack with the SWA cleats - I doubt any sparkies do this but it's a neat little idea. Good video 👍
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Thanks great video. Nail plugs are a revelation and something I will consider in next time. Thanks so much.
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Great tips as always! Nail plugs! Fantastic what a great idea. I have used cable tie plugs before. You drill a 6mm home smack the plug in which has a cable tie loop and then fix you cable over it with a cable tie.
I tried them once, but wasn't too impressed with them.
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@@ultimatehandyman I've used them before, thought they were pretty good for bundles of cables. They also have the advantage that adding a cable is easy since you just need to replace the cable ties.
Nail plugs look great though, i'll get some of those for the garage where running a single T&E cable wouldn't look good with tie points.
Excellent video - just what.i needed! 🔨👍🏻
Nail plugs! I never knew they existed. Thanks.
I've had a pack in my filing cabinet in my office for about 6 years, which I forgot about.
I then bought a pack from ebay and a couple of days later, I found the pack in my filing cabinet!
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They're a god send! Used them to fit a cable to my rendered property as nowt else would work.
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Good tips for surface cabling. I always try to put cabling in external cavities where possible, especially security and cctv cabling.✌😎
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Excellent timing this Chez.. Just had our roof redone..and now need to resecure the aierial cable..:) Bikini weather in Darwen today :)
Yeah, it's definitely bikini weather, but I might change into something else before I go for my walk LOL 😎
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Fantastic video. Thanks for sharing. Very helpful.
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All your videos are so informative. Would be happy for you to do any jobs for me. You clearly take pride in your work!
Wow, thank you!
Nice advice there. I favour knock ins. You can secure multiple cables easily and add more at a later date if you wish.
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Yes I did this job a few weeks ago fitting a camera and two smart colour changing LED lights on our back wall. Lost a few clips which will no doubt show up in my motoryclce tyre in the near future. I also fitted a hidden internal switch (well it's behind the curtains) which works well and nobody died (yet) so all is well. Happy Easter mate
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Brilliant guide, thank you!
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just what i was looking for. Thanks
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Running it down the downpipe is a great idea. Thanks!
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Another great vid. Thanks
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Very nice, and good reference for the future.
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Nail plugs! A godsend! Cleats - ditto. Have wasted all day trying to remedy poor aerial wiring; every masonry pin bent due to granite-hard mortar. Now I have a choice of solutions. THANK YOU!
Masonry nails are my pet hate, they only work in really soft mortar.
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I was just looking for this last night. Planning on running some cat 6 and I have rendered walls. This has been so helpful
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Make sure to check the clip size, cat 6 cable is thicker than cat 5e. Cat 6 also has a reduced bend radius so sharp 90degree bends should be avoided. Final note make sure to get quality external graded cable, it should have UV protection to stop the cover cracking from being exposed to sunlight. Personally the best I’ve used has been Ubiquiti’s ToughCable it’s not cheap but it’s excellent.
ordered nail plugs - we dont have them in Israel, never knew they even exist. i will try to use wood chips till they arrive. Great video, thank you!
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Thanks Never heard of nail clips!
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Very useful information thanks for that ultimate handyman happy bank holiday
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Is there a brand or two of adhesive cable clips which you can recommend for dry wall inside the house? The dry wall has only been painted with white paint and I worry that the clips won’t stick.
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You give great advice. I find a lot of what i need on the tube. A lot of it is from the US. I have a major thing that needs to be done. Power to my garage to make it a work shop
Great tip making a drip loop.
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nice one cheers dude
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i am going to install a new video doorbell. i will need to fix a very thin and lightweight wire to supply power from existing doorbell. i would rather like to use double sided adhesive tape for it. i think the adhesive may hold it on the wall probably for very long time as the cable is light. i know it sounds risky but i don't like the idea hammer the wall and make cracks on it. would you comment on such task? thank you. i love your chanel. what ever i search on google (not even youtube) your chanel is first to appear. thanks.
If the cable is inside, it might work. But I don't think it will work outside due to the heat from the sun and the frost in winter.
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I cut the end off an SDS chisel (from one of the Screwfix combo sets) and drilled a small divot into the end with a 6mm drill. Put your SDS drill into hammer only, and it will drive wall plugs in like butter.
Also, if you put a short piece of 20mm HDPE around it to act as a sleeve, it makes a good earth rod driver.
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great vid didn't know the nail plugs existed. what size/length of nail would you recommend for the nail plugs. Many thanks
The masonry nails need to be about an inch in length.
I think the ones I were using were about 2mm in diameter.
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Thanks for the video - the clip plugs are a good idea - never used them before. What is your view on running normal twin and earth outside, say to an external light. I've seen somewhere that this should be avoided as the cable "ages" in the sunlight?
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I would never use normal twin core and earth outside, as it will eventually fail (as it's not UV resistant). There are a few security lights installed here, and they have been wired using twin core and earth- although the external portion of the wiring is only short.
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Your correct, Flat or twin and earth is not designed for outdoor use as it will deteriorate in sunlight 👍
Where can i get larger masonary nails to replace the short nail in clips i already have?
When working up a ladder, how do you recommend managing bag/box of vlips and hammer? When i use trousers with bag pockets i find the clips are hard to get to. And never sure where to put hammer!.
I often hang the claw hammer on a rung of the ladder, using the claw. Most nails/screws etc. don’t work well with pockets. I tried a belt with pouches years ago, and it just drove me mad 😂
We used to use those nail plugs but noticed that they were often twice the price of an equivalent Tower wall plug. Nail plugs are around £2.60 per 100 and the Tower plugs are on average £1.20 per 100. We use the Tower plugs on all our cable jobs now and they work just fine.
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Could i get a pic of tower plus?
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I'm the same about nail plugs,I'll have to invest in a box of them. Didn't know they existed👍👍👍👍👍. Some of us are working (treble time 😬😬). Enjoy the holidays everyone. Ps how's the ticker doing.
I saw loads of people working on Friday! I'm glad you are on treble time 👍
My ticker is fine, I've been absolutely fine, ever since I had the heart attack. Yesterday I walked 12 miles ;-)
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Happy Easter.
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What's the lengh of that masonry nails in millimeter, that you use with that nail wall plug? Could you say please? thank you
I think they were about 20mm 👍
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I not sure what type clips to I need I have a 25meter cable 2.5mm 24amp I been told I need a 11mm but seem big I hear some say 8 or 9 so I confused its a 3183y 3 core flexible cable can you please advice many thanks
Not sure, sorry.
I normally take a offcut of the cable to the shop, to ensure I get the right clips!
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I posted a comment on here a while back about using 5mm uno plugs in a 4.5mm hole but another good tip is if you want to get even cheaper with the nail plugs you can split some offcuts of excess timber using a chisel or even just a knife (if you have any lying round) to a diameter slightly bigger than the pilot hole so they fit more snugly in the hole. The way I do it is cut them square as possible at one end and then round off the edges on the other end so it makes it easier to drive in with a hammer. It’s more of an old school method as a lot of tradesmen used to fix various things to walls in this fashion and then the nails would be driven straight into the wood and make it split half way through the grain so it has expansion.
What happens when it rains and the wood gets wet and expands or when it freezes and expands?
@@ultimatehandyman hmm, interesting point, i think it would be fine for indoor use? 🤷🏻♂️
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how would you go about fixing to rendered or pebble dash wall? wall plugs and screws?
would the same apply to running cables in conduit/pvc pipe?
I'd use the nail plugs and cable clips for render, or pebble dash.
If using conduit, I would use wall plugs and external screws.
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Damn those nail plugs. I've always knocked in a cut off piece of hardwood dowel and a squirt of 'no more nails'.. It looks like I'll be heading off to eBay now! Thanks Chez.. 👍
Edit; that's that done. £4 for 100 pieces..
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one thing to add to this if you are installing it cables inside the property you now need to use fireproof clips if there is any chance of the cable collapsing prematurely. That applies to telecom data CCTV as well as mains
I would imagine they will change all cable clips now, to make them fireproof, although the only time twin core and earth clips are used, the cable is either plastered over or above plasterboard etc.
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I bought the nail plugs thank you. Where do I buy the cable cleats do you have a link for that?
You can get them at most electrical shops, or ebay- fave.co/2UcWfeh
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What size cleats do you recommend for 3 cat6 cables?
Cables clips/ cleats need fire rating now mate dont forget 18th edition requires all areas not just fire exits now. Keep up the good vids
Thanks, I bought the 18th edition OSG, but have not had time to look at it yet. I just snapped a picture of the cable spacing page, for this video. Some guy was trolling me yesterday about it! Obviously I don't have time to argue with trolls, so he got blocked ;-)
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fire rating in what way?
Hello m8 I’m having a full rewrite on a bungalow , had a few quotes just 2 questions, does wire in loft have to be clipped, and when wire channeled in wall does it have to have conduit on it for protection, most of the electricians have said they don’t need doing , but others insisted on doing it , I’m confused who’s right ???
The regs are normally open to interpretation.
As far as I am aware (I'm not a domestic electrician), cables are fine if they are not clipped in lofts, as they are still supported.
Conduit/capping is often only used to prevent the plasterer from damaging the cable when plastering. I always use it though 👍
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Thanks m8 that’s put my mind at rest
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What is that rubber cable holder called and where do I get it
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2.27 .. the drip loop isn't "important". It's an absolute must. Rain water clings like mad to cables and if it's fed straight into a wall then you may just as well use a hose to squirt 100s of litres of water per year into your cavity and all over your joists and floorboards.
What about a tiled side of a building, which I have?
How are other cables fixed to the walls, or your neighbours?
You might have to drill the tiles and use the nail plugs.
Most cable and sat TV installers go on a special course where they teach them to drill a cable hole from inside the house with an SDS drill and push it as hard as they can so the hole on the outside busts the brick face and is at least 10 times bigger than the drill bit.....nice tidy work as usual UH :)
Yeah, I've seen lots and lots of people that have been on that course 😁
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Wouldn't that have some negative effects? Like weakening the brick??
He is being sarcastic, as many installers in the UK just put as much weight on the drill and blow the face from the brick 😂 😂
Just been cutting the grass and the lawnmower has stopped working I’ve changed the fuse on it but nothing any suggestions it’s a flymo electric lawnmower
Do you have a multi-meter?
It could be the switch, or perhaps a safety switch- ua-cam.com/video/k6SqGcXYmLw/v-deo.html
Check the wall socket you have it plugged into with another device.
P clips mate are good aswel bit pricier than normal clips though,
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I have found one can pull the nail from the clip and then drive a suitably gauaged screw through the hole. A hole can then be drilled and plugged and the clip screwed in.
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No metal/pvc truckings for the wires?
No, you don't need conduit, as the cable is rated for outside use.
If you think someone might bring ladders to cut the cables, they might also bring a hacksaw or cordless grinder, so trunking/conduit is pointless.
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You could drill into the wall and use wooden dowels and tap the nail into the dowels, Just a cheaper idea.?...thanks for the video
Yes, you could do, but wood absorbs water, and when it freezes you might find that the plugs expand and start to crack the mortar etc.
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Good tip on the ladder stopper but yours looked greater than a 1-4 ratio.
It was, because I had to use two hands to fasten the cable, so it's much easier if the bottom of the ladder is out more - but the ladder was footed at all times by my mate ;-)
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Ultimate Handyman nice! I also hadn’t heard of the profit nailplugs and also bought some. Thanks bud! Hope you also had a good Easter.
the only thing you have to watch with internal cable clips is they have to be metal or fire resistant around internal door ways even when inside trunking
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There has to be some real good cable clips with masonry nails rather than having to switch them. ive gone through so many and you get some concrete which will bend any nail. i dont really like the idea of wall plugging before fixing for a cable due to the time overhead on long runs
Yes, I'm sure you can get decent ones.
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Using yellow 5mm rawlplug UNO plugs also has the same effect as using the plugs designed for nailable clips. I would recommend drilling maybe a 4.5mm hole so that the there is more plug for the masonry nail to bite.
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i known someone who used to actually lay the cable in the brick joints and repoint over it ............. yh, maybe pass regs if its just a data cable but hell no for electric
Blimey, that would be hard work!
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@@ultimatehandyman well he did old houses that are listed so he had to bury external cables ,antenna cabling etc and phone lines.he was a sub contractor for virgin media and sky that wernt allowed to have visible cables on the exterior walls ( TBH i think its a con because only structural matters in listed buildings i think )
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7:13 what is the arrow pointing to I need that
They are cable cleats, normally used to hold armoured cable- ua-cam.com/video/tbG9Flhrf34/v-deo.html
But you can open them out to hold a couple of network cables together 👍
@@ultimatehandyman what size cleat would I need for three cat6
Nail plugs?? Must be a UK thing cause I can't find those on the Home Depot website.
Perhaps they are not available in the US yet. These are the plugs- fave.co/2y99uUz
You might be able to get the seller to ship some to the US, I'm sure the postage will not be much, as they are not heavy.
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Wireless! 😉👍
Have you ever tried 7 wireless camera's on the same system?
How do they get their power ;-)
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@@ultimatehandyman I have 4 wireless around my house. They are solar powered, with 24 hour backup battery packs. The system works great.
Damn,now you tell me nail plugs exist! Two months late😭😭😭😭😭😭👍👍👍👍👍👍👍😯😁😁😁😁😁
Sorry about the timing
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Just what did you call that T&E cable? ..... ahh flat! - for some reason i heard ya say 'twa...' cable lol
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Nail plugs? I guess that would be what here in Oz we call spaghetti.
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The cable cleats are upside down.
If I knew the guy that installed them, I could tell him!
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Great, after I’ve just pegged 30 metres of cable around my garage and car port fir new security lights you come up with a solution to cable clips not always fixing.....ggrrrrrrr. 🤣
Sorry, the video is a bit late 😉
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Always interesting and enlightening videos. 😊
0:41 that isn't twin & earth :)
That is correct ;-)
4:43 Once you go bla... Oh never mind...
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Easier in Norway where most of the houses are tree houses
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And if your a cable guy in a rush you use as few of those as possible lol
Well, I've looked at a few cable/aerial installs and they seem to put clips about every 3 feet, some of their work is shocking!
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Just checked, for a 100 pack of nail plugs, B&Q are cheaper than ebay, just goes to show.
I've never seen them in B&Q, I'll look the next time I'm there.
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A question for British viewers, what kind of accent is this ?
Darwen, Lancashire ;-)
@@ultimatehandyman thank you ! I really appreciate your videos, and your accent too. From an Italian speaker
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Them clips with masonary waste time
Yeah, in a lot of mortar they are useless and don't work!
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