Like the video and demo of the hipac. So each shot the fps slowly drops, I guess it is a system a guy has to run across his crony to find where his gun likes and shoots best. I've been looking at and just for kicks gotta give it a try. Thanks again this video is the one that is gonna breath life back into my 2240
I always enjoy your videos. The ones on the Benjamin pumpers have been very informative. I have the 397pa and a 392s. Have you ever done a video on the QB78? That rifle is a ton of fun as well.
Thanks for the info.on pack add on.I was looking for the quality and simplicity of such an item. Might you be aware of the same nozzle attachment that would enable a small bottle and regulator ? Again thanks and really liked. The program.F.Traverso
With this setup you can add a regulated bottle via the QD fitting, and use it with or without the bottle as desired. Another option (which I've done before) is to use a co2 hose adapter. That requires drilling a hole in the tube for hose access.
+James Dugger I think you'll like it. Besides this 2400, I also have one in my 2260. That one does 900 fps with a 14.3 grain pellet, for 12 shots per charge.
Nice vid, however getting 650fps with the HiPac doesn't really impress anyone, when a stock 2240 right out of the box is shooting at 460fps. Modded with 12gr CO2 could get close to that no problem. The cost of the HiPac plus the tank and refills or pumping hassles just don't make sense to me for the extra fps. Put that money into the 2240 and mod away
Keep in mind that this is untuned. I easily got my 2260 over 900 fps with a HiPac, and this one will do it too if I want to run it full throttle. Besides all that though, converting to free air is a good thing in my book; not a disadvantage at all. In fact, in my opinion any airgunner who hasn't moved into HPA/PCP yet should really give it serious consideration.
Shame the custom ahop wont ship to the uk i want a pistol with my name on and cocobolo grips but they wont send it here not even to my local gun shop 😢😢
I've got one of those guns. I changed the breach out for a metal one...and put a scope on it...It's ok....but I've got a Gammo 440 with a scope that even better...and if noise is not an issue...Just get a .22 rifle. Don't get me wrong...I love the Crossman..mines just the pump one. But accurate as hell!
@@gingerbread2875 Wow, that question came out of left field. That's like we're all talking air guns and some question nothing to do with our interest, and completely inappropriate given how sensitive race relations are with the exposure of White supremacist problem here you totally need sensitivity training.
@@Possumliving My friend is selling me his slightly used 2240. Can you tell me again (sorry, couldn't find it in the discussion thread) where I can purchase the CO2 to PCP conversion kit? Thank you much brother!
@@jackaram5415 Sorry, but the company is out of business now. It was called HiPac. I think there was a company making replacement PCP air tubes that used a Discovery valve. You might be able to find out more by perusing the airgun forums. Or, if you plan on using a rifle-length barrel, just get a Discovery air tube and the associated parts from Crosman. That's what I ended up doing with my 2260; it basically converted it to a Discovery. The price wasn't bad, either.
I bought mine direct from the company. Their original website appears to be defunct, and this seems to be the new (not yet fully functional) one: www.buyhipac.com/home.html
+MegaBait56 I don't remember, Walt. I've been shooting my pumpers, so it's been a few months since I pumped this one up. Although I did take it out to make a thumbnail pic, and it was still pressurized. But I'm thinking maybe 50 pumps. Certainly no more than that. And that charge is good for 12-15 full power shots, and it takes fewer pumps to recharge since it still has quite a bit of pressure when the power starts falling off. The kit is 80 bucks, and you can get it at powermaxhipac.com. Of course then you have to get a pump or other air source. Hand pumps start at about 150 bucks; I think my British Hill pump was about double that. If you research it though, you will find that the Hill is worth the price difference. For example, the rest of them void the warranty if you try to work on it. Hill doesn't; in fact they make it easy to rebuild, supply the rebuild kits and encourage customers to rebuild their pump if it is ever needed. Of course the cheapest way to go is to get a co2 tank and bulk fill it. The performance is not as good as hpa, but shot count is much higher once you figure out how to charge it efficiently (i.e. as much liquid co2 as possible). And it's much, much cheaper than powerlets. The pump is cheaper in the long run though, as long as air remains free!
ahh, you always make me spend my money. lol. yea i modded a 1377 to the max and with just 12 pumps can blow thru 1/2" plywood. i like the idea of not pumping like my 2240 but, then you have to shoot till it's done. most of the time i come home from work and just want to shoot a few shots and the pumpers are good for that. got to research this out. i built another ar x39 and if it don't rain tomorrow i'm going to Ft. Dix "my range" to see how it works. if you ever build a ar x39 use only ASC mags they have been the best for me. i'll let ya know how it ran, take care.
+MegaBait56 Hope that AR works out for you. I keep thinking about building one in .300 blk, but I wish I could find a 12 twist barrel cheap. That would actually make it a .300 Fireball, not a blk. BTW, I keep my co2 guns charged. In fact I just picked up my Daisy 15XT BB pistol that has been sitting on a shelf with a powerlet in it for at least a couple months, pointed it at a leather nail bag and pulled the trigger. The BB went through two layers of cowhide! Of course you should also keep your pumpers charged when they're not in use. Otherwise they will start leaking.
Seals are cheap and easy to replace. I always leave mine charged. I suspect it's actually better for them. The fastest, guaranteed way to make the seals in a pumper go bad is to leave it depressurized, because that allows dirt to contaminate the seals. There is very little difference between a pumper and a co2 gun, so it seems to me that would also hold true for a co2 or PCP. I've never yet seen anything to make me think otherwise.
You said, you fill it with high pressure air or oxygen. You don't ever use oxygen in a PCP air gun, unless you want to invite an explosion. Any oil can cause detonation and great danger to yourself and bystanders. Just saying.
Nowhere in this video did I even mention the word oxygen. I just went back and watched it, to make sure I didn't misspeak. I said co2 bulk fill, high pressure air or nitrogen. I didn't mention it, but helium also works, as does argon. So you heard incorrectly. You are right about one thing though, and it bears repeating: never use oxygen in any airgun.
Probably around 20. I just recharged my P-Rod which has a bit more volume, and it took 60 pumps (including about 10 to get the fill hose up to pressure) to fill it from 1800 to 3000.
@@Possumliving I built myself a refillable tank of 100ml volume in my crosman 1077.. I recharge it with co2 at 850 psi with an average of 60 shot at 600 fps.. I would try to refill with air at 1000 fps.. would you think it safe? I wish to shot at least a count of 30 with same power
First, I would like to see how it works. I have been waiting for air guns that use a winding motion to pump up or a ratchet method. AND does not continue getting h.c harder and harder.. This enables it to pump up much faster. But this video makes a claim it does not prove.... wasted time.
@@terryglenweaver Thanks for the sub. I think I see where you're coming from now. I didn't say "ratchet," I said "Ratcatcher" which is what the British call a Crosman 2250 (of which this 2400 is a custom shop version). Kind of like the 2289 is a "Backpacker." This is just a PCP conversion of a co2 gun. I charge it with my Hill HPA hand pump, or a scuba tank.
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Very nice setup. A lot can be done with that platform. Glad you did the conversion. Thanks for showing us it.
Nice them I be wanting 1 for a while love the Pcp conservtion
Like the video and demo of the hipac. So each shot the fps slowly drops, I guess it is a system a guy has to run across his crony to find where his gun likes and shoots best. I've been looking at and just for kicks gotta give it a try. Thanks again this video is the one that is gonna breath life back into my 2240
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This is where you can get conversion takes about 6 weeks from USA
Can I have a list of all the stuff you bought to make this happen?
Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks!
If your rifles .22 shooting atleast a 15 grain pellet then by the chrony readings its shooting s cosistent 12ftlb down to 11ftlb
I was using 14.3 grains, which is about 13.5 down to 11.4 fpe.
I always enjoy your videos. The ones on the Benjamin pumpers have been very informative. I have the 397pa and a 392s. Have you ever done a video on the QB78? That rifle is a ton of fun as well.
I have a QB79. I'll probably revisit that one pretty soon.
Thanks for the info.on pack add on.I was looking for the quality and simplicity of such an item. Might you be aware of the same nozzle attachment that would enable a small bottle and regulator ? Again thanks and really liked. The program.F.Traverso
With this setup you can add a regulated bottle via the QD fitting, and use it with or without the bottle as desired. Another option (which I've done before) is to use a co2 hose adapter. That requires drilling a hole in the tube for hose access.
think I will order one for my 2250 an an longer barrel
for it as well thanks
+James Dugger I think you'll like it. Besides this 2400, I also have one in my 2260. That one does 900 fps with a 14.3 grain pellet, for 12 shots per charge.
Nice vid, however getting 650fps with the HiPac doesn't really impress anyone, when a stock 2240 right out of the box is shooting at 460fps. Modded with 12gr CO2 could get close to that no problem. The cost of the HiPac plus the tank and refills or pumping hassles just don't make sense to me for the extra fps. Put that money into the 2240 and mod away
Keep in mind that this is untuned. I easily got my 2260 over 900 fps with a HiPac, and this one will do it too if I want to run it full throttle. Besides all that though, converting to free air is a good thing in my book; not a disadvantage at all. In fact, in my opinion any airgunner who hasn't moved into HPA/PCP yet should really give it serious consideration.
Shame the custom ahop wont ship to the uk i want a pistol with my name on and cocobolo grips but they wont send it here not even to my local gun shop 😢😢
Yeah, that is too bad. They are missing out on a good market there.
It will always drop preasure every shot because it is not a regulated airgun . The guns that have regulators will make each shot more consistant.
Yeah, until it drops off the regulator. For airguns that don't have much volume I prefer a well-tuned, non-regulated design.
would this work for a 1077 rifle?
I'm sure there is a way to do that. I recently got a 1077, so I'll be looking at the mod possibilities for it.
@@Possumliving looking forward to that. if it can be done you will do it. thank you.
I've got one of those guns. I changed the breach out for a metal one...and put a scope on it...It's ok....but I've got a Gammo 440 with a scope that even better...and if noise is not an issue...Just get a .22 rifle. Don't get me wrong...I love the Crossman..mines just the pump one. But accurate as hell!
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@@gingerbread2875 Wow, that question came out of left field. That's like we're all talking air guns and some question nothing to do with our interest, and completely inappropriate given how sensitive race relations are with the exposure of White supremacist problem here you totally need sensitivity training.
Did you need to adjust or replace the hammer spring?
I threaded the end cap for an adjustment bolt. This one had a strong enough hammer spring to not need it, but I like being able to fine tune it.
@@Possumliving My friend is selling me his slightly used 2240. Can you tell me again (sorry, couldn't find it in the discussion thread) where I can purchase the CO2 to PCP conversion kit? Thank you much brother!
@@jackaram5415 Sorry, but the company is out of business now. It was called HiPac.
I think there was a company making replacement PCP air tubes that used a Discovery valve. You might be able to find out more by perusing the airgun forums. Or, if you plan on using a rifle-length barrel, just get a Discovery air tube and the associated parts from Crosman. That's what I ended up doing with my 2260; it basically converted it to a Discovery. The price wasn't bad, either.
@@Possumliving Oh, unfortunate they're out of business. But will explore as suggested. Thank you much for the video, and the replies. Cheers always!
I want to by a hipac kit in the uk but cant find one
Unfortunately they are no longer available on this side of the pond, either.
@@Possumliving sad times
you never pinned the valve or anything ? that's cool just screwed the hipac on and filled ?
At first and keeping it below 2Kpsi, yes. Later I added two setscrews to anchor the valve so I could take it to 2300-2400 psi.
ok thanks
I have the 2400KT
So what does the PCP conversion give the buyer?
More power?
More shots?
Both?
Cheers
BB
More power and cheaper shooting.
+Possum Living Thanks👍
That is assuming you already own the 150- $200 pump, correct?
Yes, or some other way to charge it. It also works for bulk filling with co2. Just about anything is cheaper in the long run than buying powerlets.
What size barrel did you get on it?
18 inch, .22 caliber.
do you a link on how to do the upgrade? ta
www.buyhipac.com/
would I be able to put my own regulated HPA tank on this?
Yes, if you use a tether hose. I do that occasionally.
Possum Living would it also be safe to use a completely stock custom shop rifle?
+Possum Living Where do you buy the hipac?
I bought mine direct from the company. Their original website appears to
be defunct, and this seems to be the new (not yet fully functional) one:
www.buyhipac.com/home.html
Possum Living Thanks for the info. great video btw
Can a pump version be covered to pcp ?
It's more difficult, but possible. Best way would be to get a Discovery air tube , valve and associated components.
How do you degas it if it filled
Best way is to dryfire until empty. But I have also added a spring adjuster and can remove it and use a degasser tool if necessary.
where to buy a hipac for Crosman 2250?
I don't think they are available any more. The old website is gone and I haven't been able to find a new one.
Possum, how many pumps does it take to charge it to 1,900 psi? and how much for that gizmo to convert? thanks.
+MegaBait56 I don't remember, Walt. I've been shooting my pumpers, so it's been a few months since I pumped this one up. Although I did take it out to make a thumbnail pic, and it was still pressurized. But I'm thinking maybe 50 pumps. Certainly no more than that. And that charge is good for 12-15 full power shots, and it takes fewer pumps to recharge since it still has quite a bit of pressure when the power starts falling off.
The kit is 80 bucks, and you can get it at powermaxhipac.com. Of course then you have to get a pump or other air source. Hand pumps start at about 150 bucks; I think my British Hill pump was about double that. If you research it though, you will find that the Hill is worth the price difference. For example, the rest of them void the warranty if you try to work on it. Hill doesn't; in fact they make it easy to rebuild, supply the rebuild kits and encourage customers to rebuild their pump if it is ever needed.
Of course the cheapest way to go is to get a co2 tank and bulk fill it. The performance is not as good as hpa, but shot count is much higher once you figure out how to charge it efficiently (i.e. as much liquid co2 as possible). And it's much, much cheaper than powerlets. The pump is cheaper in the long run though, as long as air remains free!
ahh, you always make me spend my money. lol. yea i modded a 1377 to the max and with just 12 pumps can blow thru 1/2" plywood. i like the idea of not pumping like my 2240 but, then you have to shoot till it's done. most of the time i come home from work and just want to shoot a few shots and the pumpers are good for that. got to research this out. i built another ar x39 and if it don't rain tomorrow i'm going to Ft. Dix "my range" to see how it works. if you ever build a ar x39 use only ASC mags they have been the best for me. i'll let ya know how it ran, take care.
+MegaBait56 Hope that AR works out for you. I keep thinking about building one in .300 blk, but I wish I could find a 12 twist barrel cheap. That would actually make it a .300 Fireball, not a blk.
BTW, I keep my co2 guns charged. In fact I just picked up my Daisy 15XT BB pistol that has been sitting on a shelf with a powerlet in it for at least a couple months, pointed it at a leather nail bag and pulled the trigger. The BB went through two layers of cowhide! Of course you should also keep your pumpers charged when they're not in use. Otherwise they will start leaking.
+Possum Living be careful you can wear out the seal. dont leave a cartridge in a co2 gun
Seals are cheap and easy to replace. I always leave mine charged.
I suspect it's actually better for them. The fastest, guaranteed way to make the seals in a pumper go bad is to leave it depressurized, because that allows dirt to contaminate the seals. There is very little difference between a pumper and a co2 gun, so it seems to me that would also hold true for a co2 or PCP. I've never yet seen anything to make me think otherwise.
You said, you fill it with high pressure air or oxygen. You don't ever use oxygen in a PCP air gun, unless you want to invite an explosion. Any oil can cause detonation and great danger to yourself and bystanders. Just saying.
Nowhere in this video did I even mention the word oxygen. I just went back and watched it, to make sure I didn't misspeak. I said co2 bulk fill, high pressure air or nitrogen. I didn't mention it, but helium also works, as does argon. So you heard incorrectly. You are right about one thing though, and it bears repeating: never use oxygen in any airgun.
Beg your pardon, I heard nitrogen as oxygen. My bad, I apologize for the misunderstanding.
No problem. Thanks for watching.
How many pumps to get 1000 psi?
Probably around 20. I just recharged my P-Rod which has a bit more volume, and it took 60 pumps (including about 10 to get the fill hose up to pressure) to fill it from 1800 to 3000.
@@Possumliving I built myself a refillable tank of 100ml volume in my crosman 1077.. I recharge it with co2 at 850 psi with an average of 60 shot at 600 fps.. I would try to refill with air at 1000 fps.. would you think it safe? I wish to shot at least a count of 30 with same power
@@giovasuperganz If it's safe with co2 I wouldn't think it would be any less so with air.
@@Possumliving would you think fps will slightly better? What about consistency
@@giovasuperganz Consistency is better with co2. Where HPA really shines is low temperature, because it doesn't lose power when it's cold.
First, I would like to see how it works. I have been waiting for air guns that use a winding motion to pump up or a ratchet method. AND does not continue getting h.c harder and harder.. This enables it to pump up much faster. But this video makes a claim it does not prove.... wasted time.
Sorry, but I'm not following you. What unsupported claim do you think I made?
@@Possumliving I wanted to see the ratchet operating . But, I liked the other info in your vid. Now, that you replied I will subscribe. Thanks
@@terryglenweaver Thanks for the sub. I think I see where you're coming from now. I didn't say "ratchet," I said "Ratcatcher" which is what the British call a Crosman 2250 (of which this 2400 is a custom shop version). Kind of like the 2289 is a "Backpacker."
This is just a PCP conversion of a co2 gun. I charge it with my Hill HPA hand pump, or a scuba tank.
Pretty loud
Silencers are cheap.