Push it FURTHER! Viewer Mix Critiques #3
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2023
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Computer / Interface:
Mac M1 Studio Max sweetwater.sjv.io/anOMOo
Avid Carbon sweetwater.sjv.io/ZQ6M6g
Apogee Duet 3 sweetwater.sjv.io/y2qXqb
Monitors / Headphones:
Avantone CLA-10a sweetwater.sjv.io/WqyMyZ
Audio Technica ATH-M50 sweetwater.sjv.io/PyOMON
Microphones:
Shure SM57 sweetwater.sjv.io/daOMy7
AKG D112 sweetwater.sjv.io/Kj0MBy
Sennheiser e604 sweetwater.sjv.io/DKyvWa
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Shure SM81 sweetwater.sjv.io/eK1LnD
Audio Technica AT4050 sweetwater.sjv.io/JzKMqr
Preamps/Outboard:
API 3124 sweetwater.sjv.io/eK1LRD
EL8 Distressor sweetwater.sjv.io/XYmMd4
Favorite Plugins:
BSA Clipper blacksaltaudio.com/clipper
Escalator blacksaltaudio.com/escalator
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Slate Trigger 2 sweetwater.sjv.io/MmAM53
SoundToys Rack sweetwater.sjv.io/xkLgyd
Auto-tune Pro sweetwater.sjv.io/OreMYr
Vocalign Project sweetwater.sjv.io/xkLgyA
Cranesong Phoenix II sweetwater.sjv.io/PyOMrz
Instruments / Amps:
Ludwig Black Beauty Snare sweetwater.sjv.io/1r9vDR
Gibson Les Paul sweetwater.sjv.io/B0nvz1
Evertune Guitars sweetwater.sjv.io/WqyM6P
Fender Jazz Bass sweetwater.sjv.io/nLX5R6
Sansamp Bass Driver DI sweetwater.sjv.io/OreM9Q
EVH 5150 sweetwater.sjv.io/4PGvr9
Mesa 2x12 cab sweetwater.sjv.io/75avGA
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how would i go about submitting a mix to be on one of these?
Jordan, thank you so much for checking out my mix! It's awesome as hell for me to see a professional break all this down in front of me. I agree with your points; things are definitely a bit too slammed and I'm gonna go back and give things some breathing room before this song & the rest of the EP drops. Again thank you for everything man! ❤
Dude that sounds amazing already, good job!
Great mix man! What’s the band called?
Song was a banger hermano.
that song slapped
Thank you guys so much! That's an unreleased track from my project called Sail's End! Should be out early 2024 with a video
Thanks everyone who had the courage to submit your mixes for public scrutiny. I'm a newb. There's no way, I'd submit my mixes yet. You guys are miles beyond what I'm capable of at the moment. Kudos to you all.
Don't be afraid of criticism, even at an early stage in your journey. The sooner you get a pro set of ears on your productions, you can figure out where you need to improve and stop any mistakes you're making. My best advice, is to find an engineer who's mixes you like and have them sit down with you and your session (preferably locally). It might cost you a couple hundred bucks, but it is totally worth it. Be sure to record audio/video of the conversation/breakdown on a phone to refer to later on.
Thanks for reviewing my mix, Jordan! Seriously, I appreciate it. I sent you one that I hadn’t touched in almost a year. I think having your perspective on it helps a lot. That and I think now that I’ve had *way* more reps mixing, I should be able to revisit it and make it sound way better. Cheers
Very creative writing, love the song.
The songwriting was insane. Great work dude.
very cool song! do I hear a Gentle Giant influence? really like your singing voice
Thank you so much Jordan for checking my mix, means so much hearing your feedback! I totally agree with your points, and the moves you made instantly made it sound more the way I intended to. Just couldn’t figure out what the problem was.
Thanks!!
Man U just blew my mind !!! the way u can instantly figure out whats missing and fixing it right away !! really inspirational man \m/
I love the Opeth vibes in the second mix
Hi Jordan - I am constantly amazed at how sensitive you are to minor EQ moves. You've really helped me start focusing more on how I EQ and listening much closer to every track and doing the best I can to clean them up. Thanks for the great example you set!
Please keep doing this! It is super helpful. Would be even more awesome if people would send stem tracks and you could actually touch individual instruments.
Thanks for the review of my mix Jordan (first song)! I am thankful for the points and tips!
For anyone interested, its not a band, its my one man project 😊
Cheers!
i came to the comments specifically to find more music by whoever recorded the first song. i would love to hear more of your solo project because this song is fucking great
@@BenjaminIdle glad you liked it. As for now its in production, but its gonna be a EP release in january-febuary i think.
I also play drums in a grindcore band, ”grid”. You can check us out in the meantime 😂
All the best!
waiting for the ep man. Cheers
I can't be the only one that was instantly in love with those brutal snares? Samples on them would break my heart even if they were light. With a bit of eq they are kinda raw beauty mode.
If you're talking about the first one, I agree. Some compression would probably even it out plenty.
That second song has a little bit of everything. V cool and would be a challenge to mix!
Unfortunately, I’m just seeing this video, but thanks Jordan for reviewing my mix! I agree, everything you did made it sound like record quality. Thanks so much. It made my wife and I night to see my song on your channel.
Love your approach and these vids are invaluable. Thanks
I for my part really enjoy this kind of videos! You’re also so positive, it’s really a pleasure to listen to mix critiques that way. Keep up the great positivity!
my mixes got way better once I got less timid with my processing moves. It's so interesting to see this be a common issue with mixers. I used to apply processing by gently introducing compression, eq, etc. but now I do the opposite and apply aggressively first and then dial it back and I've had a much easier time finding the sweet spot this way. I've noticed that the sweet spot is often much more aggressive than I may have expected.
Used to be me too. Someone once said “I saw this guy turning knobs like a man, and it changed everything for me.”
That sentence changed it for me too haha.
Still a long way to go though.
😂
Side note, I genuinely like all these songs. Very interesting choices 🎉
Fr, most stank face I've had watching a critique video in a while.
That's a 101 of "how to critique"... respectful but honest! Those videos are extremely helpful, kinda like a quick ear training course. Thanks man! WOuld love to get one of my "bedroom-produced" mixes reviewed too.
I love how the vast majority of this video is just EQ changes.
Definitely keep doing these videos, they’re very helpful and informative
What stood out most for me was that most of the songs were killer! Well done guys!
Really liked the reviews and the stuff you pointed out. It’s always interesting to hear what I notice but then see a few more things called out that I didn’t originally pick up on.
i never care if an instrument sounds natural. i just want it to sound natural exciting. the super processed samples sound great. so heavy! i love those distorted moments when they hit. intentionally distorting the dynamics control is such an intense sound. why struggle with maintaining a natural sound when you can make it sound that heavy! i assure you the mix itself is loud as shit, or the master bus processing wouldn't have taken it to this level. (i agree about the vocal low mids tho. doesn't sound so bad when shit is happening but in that break it's really obvious.)
I really enjoy these videos! I wish you had the individual tracks so we could see/hear your moves on the specific items you address so that the rest of the mix isn't changed when you make moves. Like when you feel the snare needs more 8k, but by boosting that it changes everything vs just changing the snare, etc.
Anyways please keep'em coming! I feel like I learn something every time!
monster mix 12:55
post talking -13:45
18:36
14:50 where would i find those samples?
Good insight and very reasonable sggestions for the genre!
👍🏻👍🏻
On a side note, kudos for being one of the few YT audio channels that doesn't riddle the videos with these now SO annoying ads playing before, during, after..
I'm watching from Japan. This video is great for learning a lot and training my ears!
Lately I've been using a 'reference mix' with fantastic results. I loaded the entirety of Zep IV into my waveform, and just unmute it every couple minutes to reference - I'm not trying to recreate Zep IV, just trying to aspire to Zep IVs mix in terms of eq, comp, presence etc... because I do everything myself, it takes me out of the downward spiral mixing bubble and brings my mix back to a 'radio reality' that has 'playable uniformity' mixed in throughout the process, instead of just in hindsight after 10 low pass filters and 5:1 comp "sounds cool" lol
Maybe you could use also some more modern reference tracks, but you chose a great album to be inspired to!!
18:30 they did the Fit For A King "Hell We Create" thing lol I love that thing.
Great tracks overall my dudes! I do think that song literally benefitted from the 200hz cut overall, not just on vocals but everything. Was really impressed by how much that one move, as well as the mid boost, made a HUGE difference.
Love these mix review videos.
I love these review videos!
The first song i couldn't tell about the tuning or anything else...but I'm an old guy,hehe.
Right after the first song I had an ad that asked if I wanted to learn worship piano,haha
Loving this style of videos
Song 1: With those tweaks, that mix is sick. I like the aggression of the song, I'd be into hearing more.
Song 2: The drums have no ambience, so the room is probably too low or nonexistent, there's not enough compression on most things, and it sounds like the distorted guitars don't have a speaker, like they were just recorded straight out of the amp or a pedal. Definitely not a good sound. The song is interesting though, the sax is a cool addition.
Song 3: Really good mix, everything sounds tight. Without a reference, it sounds fine the way it was, but perhaps in context, the extra EQ moves might be necessary.
Song 4: Nailed the modern metalcore sound, sounds huge. The problem is that the song and mix sounds exactly like every other band in the genre.
Song 5: Watch out for those low mids on the kick. Compressors, distortions, and clippers HATE those resonances and will blow out your kick. Just grab an EQ band and boost it around 100hz, sweep around a bit and you'll hear it. Good song though, feelsgoodman.
Song 6: Definitely too dark, but that's an easy fix. Skate punk gets a thumbs up from me!
Song 7: Jordan pretty much summed it up, the mix is kinda muddy and the drums are too much. Velocities are your friend. Setting the right velocities can be time consuming, but it can really bring your robotic drums to life. Overall the song and mix are good!
Song 8: I like the song, but I don't love the way it sounds. There are just things about the way it's mixed that I personally don't like. The vocals are a bit too spoken as well. I don't have the strongest voice either, so who am I to talk, but I think you could push a little more and sound really good. The vocal performance is just lacking a bit of personality, that's all. :)
Everyone here is on the right track and Jordan gave great advice!
Very useful info many thanks!👍
Thank you for all your help bro I now have a good understanding of how things go but please can you do a video on analog recording and mixing tutorial
It took me 10 years to learn to close my eyes when I dial in EQ and compression. After I started that then it took me 2 years to get where I should have been after 3 or 4 years
I should have jumped on this email, but I forgot to do it later on. Really great feedback, and helped me go look at my own mixes.
I like to think of 1k on a vocal as 'intelligibility". If you can't tell what the singer is saying, boost wide here. If It's sitting on top of everything and not gelling, reduce some 1k.
i love mix reviews!
Love these vids
Good advice on not over doing drum samples. Add them to a great drum sound to enhance.
Mixer no 2 probably need better monitors or better room treatment if I had to guess. Everything was eq'd brittle and bright like there's an overbearing amount of low end modes in his listening environment. Also, it's a lot better when the main section drops in, so I'm assuming they didn't automate anything ... and had the same compression for the quiet parts as they did the loud. You 100% need to automate your compression if you have *THAT* big of a dynamic shift in a song.
I suppose these things come with a lot of years of experience, l felt the the two things to take away for me were under processed or over processed. Would like to see a video where you take a popular free midi vst and show us the dos and don'ts. Really appreciate your stuff. Thanks
Yes keep doing this - it helps us all (mixers)
This video made me realize I'm hesitant to make big eq moves on drums and probably everywhere else. Adding 6db would make me think I was doing something wrong somewhere else.
6dB is actually a good starting point if you're using a channel strip like an SSL or something. Then you can back off it if it's too much.
fantastic video
what a great bunch of tunes. I would listen to all these songs
I think that first mix is great for the vibe of that band. Reminds me of old school metalcore from the early 2000s.
I really liked the first song that was critiqued, but casually listening felt like the vocals might have been a little too low in the mix. Is it just me or are they a little low? I ask because I often find myself having very forward vocals in mixes to make sure the vocalist can be heard and don't know if I'm developing a bad listening habit. All in all a cool song!
to me they are a bit far back. And I detest that super up front vocal that obliterates evrthg else. but yeah I agree
Hey! I liked having the vocals mixed a little lower. I think it shifts the focus towards the chainsaw guitars and messy-ness of it all 😊 at least in my opinion.
To each his own ! /Andreas
Another great one. How do we know the best time to submit a mix? Would love to send one in.
Track 4!!! oosh!
Yo thanks so much man!! It should be released fairly early 2024 🤙 Project is called Sail's End!
In the words of Yngwie, "more is more" 😅
Tendrías que haber echo ésta revisión con ozone para poder variar la eq de cada instrumento por separado
Jordan! Are you on a Mac? There are those mice where you can scroll steplessly, which usually controls the Q of an EQ. I use Magic Mouse 2 by Apple.
It makes working infinitely more fast. Makes me feel pain seeing you switching the Q curves by clicking.
3rd song smacks wth
New video let’s goooo
Second song (Unraveling?) vocals are bone dry, too. Like, distressingly dry. Need at least some ER 'verb to make them feel like they exist in a 3D space.
man, any mix after Dannys is gonna sound rough, its like closing after a headliner
Hey Jordan, how do I get my mix reviewed?
Regards, buddy!!
I think he usually writes a short post here on YT before doing a mix review video. You can then send in a mix and, if you're lucky, you get selected.
Or you can join his program, I guess.
Brutally roasted, I would say...
Does anyone know any bands that sound like the song at 26 min?
Why only metal?
I'd like to submit my mix too
👍
Thanks for all you do. Bet you’re a great dad. Gonna call you daddy moving forward.
Thanks daddy
I might be an outlier, but I hate over-produced studio magic. Never sounds authentic. Plastic plastic plastic. Do androids dream of over-compression?
Depends on the music, in my opinion. Hearing a live band, you get the energy from sheer sound preassure. To achieve this energy in a recording, you need to compress. Hard.
Everything is in degrees. There's no genre of metal whose sound is improved by having a weak or thin sounding snare... But you'd never want to go full sample replace on a black metal track either
Hi Jordan, just found your channel this week, but I'm really enjoying it so far. Your channel is exactly what I needed to find two weeks ago, when I published a new Christmas song. I'm pretty early along this path, and this was only the second song I've done ever. With almost everything aspect of this song, I have no idea what I'm doing, including songwriting, recording, mixing, mastering, publishing, trying to reach audiences, social media. I'm terrible at all of it. Trying to improve though: ua-cam.com/video/Lx45ay3_5b0/v-deo.html
That first mix is very disturbing for a host of reasons..
Couldn't agree with you more about the fake-sounding metal bands trend. I've almost completely stopped listening to metal because everyone sounds like this these days. The same drum samples, the same amp models, all sorts of homogenous mixing/production choices which serve only to make hundreds of bands sound alike.
Nice contradiction. 'I like how it's raw, i like rawness, but... put samples to make it even'. Ok, so raw is what we define natural. We are naturals. Imperfects. So we do play inconsistently that actually gives character, so... Huh? So you like it raw, or you like it prestine, perfected. I bet you are not really big fan of 70s rock music, huh? ;)
0:32 the first impression is that this is real garbage, but not the music :-) You should say that and move the first song to trash bin
Wow, you must be an expert. Why are you even watching the video?
@@inglar2k ...yes?
me too. Even though I prefer pop
Who made you the foremost authority on taste?
"I don't like it so no one else should >:("
3rd song was the best in terms of mixing, 4rth song was the worst to my ears. If I hear that amount of distortion due to hunt for loudness i instantly change song. The moment you are so thirsty to sound loud is the moment you failed as an audio engineer in my opinion.
thank you!
The guy who wrote song 2 sounds like a BTBAM fan.
song 4 guy is a Born of Osiris fan lol.